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others, especially senator kennedy, his mentor, on how to operate within the senate. bill: let's move forward in his career. he was first elected to the house in 1980. go forward to 1993, a debate on the house floor, november of 1993, then-house number of chuck schumer debating in favor of the house in 1980. brady handgun bill. here is a look. sen. schumer: mr. chairman, today is the day for this chamber to join the american people in saying we have had enough. today is the day to stand up and say, enough to the boundless fever for handguns, enough to the senseless killing in every community. day after day, night after night we see the bloody madness, children killing children, mothers die trying to protect their families. parents bury children. children bury parents. you and i and every one of us in this chamber know that our neighbors, the american people, are sick and tired of this insanity. my neighbors in queens and brooklyn are scared.
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we are all frightened for our children. we are disgusted by this orgy of handgun slaughter. your neighbors in ohio, california and wisconsin, and all over america, your neighbors are just like my neighbors. they want the killing to end they wanted now to end and they are watching what we do here today. it is said by my opponents, the opponents of this bill, guns do not kill, people do. people have bad instinct in them, but without guns, those instincts often do not result in killing. with guns, those instincts all too often do. the people of america know there are no magic pills to end the violence, but they also have the good common sense to know that waiting periods work and they want the simple, common sense restraint of the brady bill. bill: what did you hear there from the 1993 clip in terms of
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his leadership on an issue like gun control and obviously his developing oratory style? mr. kane: that is the chuck schumer, the man of the house, and back then, he was really pretty policy specific. he served on the house judiciary committee and the crime was rampant in new york throughout the 1980's and early 1990's. he took on these issues and was willing to take on the nra on the brady bill. what you saw there, though, was the chuck schumer of the house of a congressional district in which gun control is an issue that he could very much take the lead on. as he became a senator and started taking over the campaign operation in 2006, 2008, he was recruiting candidates with very different views than his own in terms of gun control.
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it is just interesting to see a sort of issue that he has grabbed at times. he did in 2013 after the connecticut shootings, but there are times when he kind of pulls back and sees the political headwind. bill: do you see a change, jennifer? ms. steinhauer: i agree a lot. the chuck schumer we saw speaking on the floor, we still hear the voice, the cadence, the emotions when he chooses to speak on the senate floor, and i do not think his views -- paul is right, he had kind of a holistic view as guns as they pertain to different regions of the country. i do not think his personal views has evolved. it is really interesting that when you jump forward to 2014, to the background check bill that paul was alluding to, senator schumer was very involved in trying to get that whole thing started and try to get them on board. it is interesting that when you
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go further south, he stepped out of the process and forecasting the next big fight which was the immigration fight. bill: we will get to that in one of our upcoming clips. let me ask you about the house leadership possibilities for senator schumer. where was he in terms of leadership in the house and was there ever a path for him to be a leader? mr. kane: he was part of the sort of brat pack of young, up and coming leaders. dick durbin lived there, leon panetta lived there until he went into the clinton administration, and they were sort of these young turks trying to challenge the leadership at the time -- first with speaker foley and then speaker wright, wanting to push the envelope. what happened was 1994, the
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midterm losses, and they lost the majority. and chuck schumer will tell you that he has been in the minority in the senate and the majority in the senate and majority in the house and the minority in the house. only one of those situations did he hates, and that was being house minority. that is when he made this internal calculation that, all right, i'm going to run statewide. bill: first elected to the senate in 1998, only a couple of years later, 2001, 9/11 happens, then following march 2002, senator schumer urging george w. bush to sign legislation urging to the passage of rescue money for your city after 9/11. i want to look at a march 2002 news conference. sen. schumer: thank you very much, mr. president.
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i can't tell you what a thrill it is to stand here with the president and all of my colleagues of the delegation and the governor and the mayor on such a great day for new york. nearly six month ago, mr. president, i sat in the oval office and i asked you for $20 billion to help new york. today, you have fulfilled that commitment. mr. president, new york thanks you. our city and our country -- he calls me ellis. [laughter] that's good, i think. [laughter] today, it is. next week, who knows. anyway, our city and our country had been brutally attacked and we desperately needed the president's help. sitting with senator clinton and the senators from virginia, i made the pitch and, honestly, mr. president, i expected you to offer us $5 billion or that you would get past -- get back to us
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or ask for a memo. instead, you looked at us right in the eye and you said new york needs help? and i said, yes, mr. president. and without hesitation, and without even flinching, he said, you've got it. today, the president is making good on that pledge in full and then some. bill: jennifer, chuck schumer in front of the new york delegation. obviously a real rapport with george w. bush and presumably a lot of that delegation not friendly with george w. bush on other issues. ms. steinhauer: it was almost seems like history, that news conference. it wasn't that long ago. especially when we see the incredibly partisan fights we see now over aid. but at that time, obviously, that was seen as a national problem that required the broad federal solution.
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it is very difficult to find that kind of bipartisanship now. i also find it interesting to see hillary clinton in that frame. they were pretty much rivals. when senator clinton came to the hill, i think it was that process of securing the money that helped cement their relationship, which continued to grow over the years. bill: that relationship, in terms of chuck schumer as a somewhat senior the art senator to hillary clinton. his path obviously went an entirely different way. how was their relationship in congress? mr. kane: they denied at the time but as years went by, they would first admit that the first year to two years were really tough. "the new york post" assigned their congressional correspondent to write something called "hill watch." every day, he wrote a hillary clinton item. which meant he was not writing a chuck schumer item. their staff also fought over
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credit for things. if money was going to a bridge somewhere, they would battle over it. but yeah, after 9/11, and they had to work together on that issue, they really did start to bond. and later, years later, they would be the two biggest earmarkers in the senate. they would share everything together. they would take credit for buffalo getting money, or they tried to get money to a woodstock museum together. ms. steinhauer: that did not go well, as i recall. [laughter] mr. kane: it ended poorly and got voted out of the senate. grudges?s he hold mr. kane: depends on if he wins. he can be in a battle with somebody. if he beats you, he doesn't have a grudge. he is just happy-go-lucky. don't worry, he said terrible things about me in that debate,
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but we won, and he can let that go. but if he loses, if he lose is that debate, if he loses that vote, he is sitting there thinking i'm going to get him. i'm going to get him. it might be six years from now, but i'm going to figure this out and i'm going to win. bill: how do you think that's going to work out in the 115th? ms. steinhauer: that's an interest in question. who is he must set up to oppose? obviously, donald j. trump. but i think an interesting part of that is the trump-schumer relationship is probably the most interesting and important ones to emerge in the congress. of course it is important, chuck schumer's relationship with mitch mcconnell. of course, he cannot hold grudges against mitch mcconnell, particularly when both sides of the aisle are vying for a better relationship between the majority and minority leader. you can have a friendly rivalry, but to have a positive, fashioning relationship as much as possible is going to be important.
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obviously showing support for members in his own party. but the schumer-trump thing is a thing to watch. bill: we're going to see in a moment from the 2006 election. senator schumer was chosen as the head of the democratic senatorial campaign committee in 2004. why was he chosen? mr. kane: tom daschle was the democratic leader. he had just lost his race. harry reid was elevated to minority leader. and schumer had just won reelection at that point. and honestly, he always held under utilized by daschle's team. reid kind of picked up on that and said, i'll tell you what, you have a lot of great ideas, , you are great, you are a strategist -- run the senatorial committee. and he ran it with a brutal efficiency. they won six seats that year. almost all of them were defeating incumbent senators.
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then in 2008, they picked up eight more seats. they basically set up the possibility of getting the barack obama agenda through congress because they had such a big super majority. it was ruthless. it was tough. he came after you on every issue possible. him and mitch mcconnell had a lingering bitterness since 2008, after they helped negotiate this tarp bailout for wall street. there were people running ads against mcconnell in his own reelection over that issue. mcconnell felt that that was in an inappropriate breach because they had done that with other senators. bill: let's go to that november 2006, after that election, the victory celebration, the news conference, if you will from 2006 in november. sen. schumer: i want to thank my
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colleagues for electing me now vice-chairman of the caucus, number three in the leadership. i want to thank harry reid in particular for the great job that he has done for us. majority leader harry reid sounds really good to us. and over the next two years, it is going to sound great to the american people when harry and his team show what we can do. let me just say our challenge has really just begun. the american public has rejected the policies of george bush and they are waiting to see what we can do. and we are going to show them that we will never lose sight of them in terms of making their lives better and creating a better america for the average person and for all americans. so, i am so gratified to be part of this leadership team.
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i want to thank harry, dick, patty, byron for their support. and i just want to promise my colleagues, all new yorkers, and all americans, i will continue to work as hard as i can to make this country even a better place. bill: jennifer, so there he is elevated to the caucus vice chair, in addition to being the head of the campaign committee. what does the vice chair do? what does that role bring to chuck schumer? ms. steinhauer: as i understand it, that's basically about bringing the caucus together. getting the agenda together, making people get on the same page, getting people an opportunity to vote on bills when they need to, and to help the legislative agenda of the party go through. mr. kane: messaging was a key facet of that job.
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it really was just -- in a way, they created the position to give him more power, more authority. bill: did they or did harry reid create that? mr. kane: harry reid. ms. steinhauer: as i understand it, senator schumer went to harry reid and said i want this space. i helped create this. i need more power and i need more authority to do things. you say ruthless with respected you will go to schenectady in the evening, buffalo in the morning, and back to washington. really works hard, the democrats. >> he was taking some of the things he had done, things you have learned up in new york, teaching other senators his
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technique. he knew all the local reporters were not doing much on a sunday afternoon and he would get headlines that way. his role early on in that leadership job was, i'm going to teach these guys. he continues on, the fcc chair for 2008. tell me about the evolving leadership rivalries with people such as senator durbin at this time what does the landscape look like and the leadership he, then? >> at that point -- dick durbin's number two behind harry reid. also becoming very close to schumer and carving out these new roles and new power. then? >>it was really kind of like schumer was leader 2a, and d
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urbin was number two. it became very clear that reid trusted schumer much more and would go to him for more advice, and durbin was -- they were roommates for 20 years, living inside that townhouse. the relationship status ok, but it became clear over the years, when is read going to lose. long shadow boxing between the two of them. we see senator durbin in those clips, he has an almost melancholy look on there. i since he's at peace, within his role. he had specific issues of putting this issue of dreamers,
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it had become his signature issue and he's passionate about it. he does a lot on the policy front that he seems to have made his place comfortably. >> six years after the bailout for new york city after 9/11, the fall of 2008, not only elections, but he financial markets about to collapse, the financial crisis and congressional response to it. as the new york senator a key part of his constituency is wall street. and were his efforts like getting the financial crisis addressed by congress? >> he was tireless. have a senior position on the senate banking or senate finance committee's at the time. he was a lower ranking member of those committees and his biggest role was fcc chairman, running the campaigns. audibly the most trusted person for wall street executives, the most trusted
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person, at least in the senate is not the entire capital. he worked very closely in this committee that just -- a bus of house members, house minority leader's, house speaker nancy pelosi, max baucus was the senate finance chairman. chris dodd was the banking committee. and they sat around nancy pelosi's office and entire weekend, coming up with the legislation, $700 billion bailout, and a one point it was shelled diplomacy as the republicans were sitting in boehner' soffice, and schumer and rahm emanuel were sitting in a losey's office back and forth and hank paulson was the treasury secretary at a time, almost collapsed in the middle of the meeting because it was so exhausting. >> i want to take you back to september of 2008. particularly addressing the republican nominee at the time,
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senator john mccain. here's what that looked like. this cannot pass without strong bipartisan support. there will be some, at both parties will not vote for any plan. neither party has the majority, neither democrats were the majority party by a small margin, nor the republicans who are close to a majority. we will need broad bipartisan support, as many on each side of the aisle will just not vote for a plan, and that's their prerogative. and so we need the president to get the republican house in order. even if we were to want to pass a bill with justin craddick votes, we could not. it's obvious. look at the math. we need to have this bipartisan support. we began it yesterday under chairman dodd and chairman frank's leadership, when we met
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in this chamber, in this building, and really crafted out a very good compromise that was a basis to take to secretary paulson. ,t did far more for taxpayers for homeowners, for oversight than the existing fill. unfortunately, we needed a four-legged stool and one leg just vanished, the house republicans, in a way that none of us could understand. in addition, senator mccain's desire, even though he hadn't been involved in this to fly in, at all, put another fly in the ointment, and created more trouble. senator mccain, i haven't heard offer one constructive remark. we don't know what he supports. does he support the house plan, the president's plan, does he have his own plan?
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by all reports, he hardly spoke at the meeting, which was his opportunity to try and do something. he spoke at the end and didn't say what his views were, as to whether he supported each plan. and so, we really need two president, on the republican side. we need president bush to take leadership. we need president bush first and foremost to get the republican house members to support his plan, or, modify it in some way to bring them on board, that the democratic house members, republican minute -- members of the senate and democratic members of the senate on board. second, we need the president to respectfully tell senator mccain to get out of town. he's not helping. he's harming. jennifer, this is 15 years after that original house clip we saw. what do you hear in terms of not only his style, but in terms of
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addressing the president, senator mccain calling him out from the campaign trail? >> what that somewhat is that chuck schumer is intensely partisan. i would not call him intensely liberal. he works a lot on policies that are bipartisan and he gets dinged a lot on the left. it's very important to the function of government. and so he's caught in there with something that is very bipartisan, very necessary, a thing that many people on the left -- he's framing it in a very partisan context. >> his line there, john mccain, get out of town. where he'sboth, offering served the olive branch, saying, if all four caucuses are on board here, we are going to get something done. at the same time, making clear,
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if this falls apart, it's on your shoulders. it's not our fault. we are going to blame you. that's sort of what he does, in a way, far more effectively than most people. >> is doing his job as fcc chair. -- he's doing his job as fcc chair. >> day before mccain had flown in, suspended his campaign for a day or two, and was marching around the capitol trying to figure out where the negotiations were. he ended up in john boehner's with a very young paul ryan. that just sort of blew up everything, and that's what he meant about mccain, get out of town. that meeting ended so badly that got down on one
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knee, held nancy pelosi's hand, , please don't give up. and she replied, are you proposing to me? [laughter] let me ask you about chuck schumer's relationship. you talked about paul ryan and the meeting in nancy pelosi's office. how were his relationships with republicans on the house side? >> back then, i think they just viewed him as a partisan pitbull. i think they only saw him, because they have yet to do any real work with him. that would come in later years. and i think back then, the house guys just looked at him as, he wants some incentive. jennifer: in that context it was de-legitimizing john kane as an important player. >> one of his important bipartisan efforts was the gang of 8. tell us briefly what that was. >> that was right up to the 2012
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elections, and just a huge margin for democrats among hispanic voters straight a bunch of republicans basically said, we have to do something, create some sort of legislation to try and deal with the problem of 11 million or 12 million undocumented immigrants here in the country, but also do something that can help politically. john mccain sort of took the lead on that, working with schumer, the two of them put together a bipartisan group of eight to try to work on legislation. >> senator mccain did not hold a grudge for calling him out in 2008? jennifer: senator mccain seems to have kept the balance. that would seem to remain his target. that was where the real bitterness of the postelection john mccain. it stuck around for quite a while.
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i did not actually ever witness him attacking schumer in that context. >> i can't remember. >> what did chuck schumer bring to this gang of eight? what were his goals there? jennifer: he covered that far more than i did, but i do think that was where you see emergent chuck schumer as someone who has something beyond the new york city perspective, understanding context of in the border states, farm states, the center of the country, where there were very different views on this. he becomes a more holistic politician. >> absolutely. he understood that this was something that was both good policy, that he thought was good policy at least, and again that there would be a political payoff. i think on the political side he saw this as, if the majority senate democrats and the
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democratic president get this done, they might get a political advantage with the hispanic vote in ways that lbj did for democrats with the african-american vote and in civil rights legislation. >> let's look at that april 2013 news conference where they legislation,e chuck schumer joined by many other members including john mccain. look right behind me. at these folks here. an unprecedented coalition has formed in favor of immigration reform, growers and farmworkers, the-tech business leaders, tech community. some of the most well-known conservative activist in washington and some of the most progressive. powerful outside forces help defeat certain other initiatives in washington.
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on immigration, the opposite is proving true. i'm convinced this issue will not fall victim to the usual partisan gridlock. and we are mindful that we approach our task at a moment when the public has never been more fed up with congress, but in a week when disillusionment with politics is being acutely felt, this bipartisan breakthrough offers a degree of hope. despite strong personalities and even stronger disagreements on many issues, we met in the middle for the common good read the bill is proof, the art of political compromise is not dead. in conclusion, today is just the beginning of our voyage. it will be long and arduous. there will be perils we can't even anticipate. but we start off with optimism, because this bipartisan agreement gives us a sturdy shift to ride out the stormy seas ahead. mentioni would like to
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someone who couldn't be here, but who is on the minds of all of us today. the late ted kennedy. he's a hero to many of us on both sides of the aisle, and especially on this issue. upmany ways, our work picks where he left off. >> paul can of the washington post, but was the end result of that immigration legislation? had a great result in the senate. they got 68 or 69 votes, about republican conference supported it, every democrat supported it very is seems to momentum, but across the capital, among the house republicans there is a completely different plant -- political dynamic at work. they weren't looking at the national exit polling for mitt romney and thinking we have to
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get right with hispanic voters. they were looking at their own primaries and they were scared to death of getting primary on the right. that was when chuck schumer and paul ryan really started working together, really started behind the scenes, schumer would go to ryan even though he wasn't speaker yet, he knew how much respect people had for ryan. they kept thinking they were getting close to having a house bill, then something bad would happen. they would get close, then something bad would happen. then eric tanner lost his primary in june 2014 to a far right candidate who ran basically on one issue. moment, there were a lot of reasons can't lost. at that moment they said, i'm out. >> towards the end of the news conference he mentions ted kennedy. you had said earlier, he viewed ted kennedy as a mentor, and kind of cracks up at the end of that news conference. think tedyes, i
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schumer'senator understanding, both of , becausen and of power he was a person who for a long time in the house felt he was this guy from brooklyn who would never be respected. he was an outsider, he didn't fit in. and self-respect in the role he had in washington. >> 2013 was also a year where we saw a discussion, very partisan discussion over changing of filibuster rules regarding the appointment of judicial nominees and other nominees. what brought all of that about? ? paul: there has been this confirmation wars that in some ways goes all the way back to 1980's. the time obamay
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is sort of getting into the end inhis first term, and early the second term, is republicans were filibustering nominees both circuit, the second-highest, second most important federal court in the land, and they were just filibustering them on the grounds that they shouldn't have more judges. there was no real reason to be otherng those nominees, ton they just did not want put more democratic appointees on that court. there were also doing that with the consumer financial protection board, the national labor relations board. they were shutting down those by not letting them get and it just built to a point where they used, for the first time ever, a wholly partisan vote to change the president of the and it just set could say, any of these
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nominees, anything except the supreme court now just need a simple majority, 51 votes. it had never been done before on to really change a big, important role of the senate. take a look to sides, one who
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is for action, and one who is opposed, the senate rules give the opposition a head start. and republicans have abuse that years now,or refusing to confirm qualified judges, presenting executive agencies from having the leaders they deserve. it's a new world. demand action. the old rules need to be modified. and that's what we have done .oday we have not ripped them up, we have modify them, in ways that can make things work. who in america doesn't end a
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president, democrat or republican, deserves his or her pick for who should run the agencies? nobody. but there's a long list that had been opposed. wish it hadn't come to this, but the american people deserve a functioning government, not gridlock. if our government continues to people are going to lose total faith in government and it will be a different america. it was an imperative to change the rules to help break the gridlock, and that's what we have done today. jennifer, do you think chuck schumer has any regrets over his changes now that he's coming in as the leader? interesting to watch what have been mitch mcconnell on the senate floor.
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lot in the last few weeks right obviously with president-elect trump, putting together one of the most conservative cabinets, arguably in a generation, democrats -- any party would be inclined to filibuster every single cabinet nominee. they've pretty much lost every leverage to take against even one they want to block. >> has chuck schumer shown his hand on any of the nominees of the incoming trump administration? >> he has spoken negatively about almost all of them, but i think democrats will take their shot. they may be able to align with republicans. republicans are pretty excited about donald trump's nominees, but there are one or two where .here could be trouble spots recently to another
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media outlets, that at the time he wanted to make it apply to judges, not cabinet agency nominees. he did not say that back at the time. i think you will see his focus, their focus will be on tillerson for secretary of state, exploring his views and the president-elect's views on russia. i think they will focus on jeff sessions and i think they will end up focusing more on than sessions' own past where there has been a lot of talk to i think he will try to focus it more on policy. >> we have looked a lot in this program so far how senator schumer has worked with his caucus, how he's worked with the opposition. how about his relations with president obama? his relationship with
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the democrats in congress, and president obama, particularly when they went to the minority, was pretty complicated. i think senator reid, senator schumer, and others, really wanted more from the white house and they got some time. we got to know that president obama ran cool and they wanted him to run hot. he and his staff engaged intensely. ,aul: schumer's relationship not necessarily with the president himself, but the senators staff, was always touchy. two years ago, after they lost the 2014 midterms, schumer delivered a speech kind of threw it together almost, and went to the national press club and said out loud what he had been saying privately for a long time. he wasn't sure that pushing for 2009ffordable care act in
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was the right time to have done that. as critical.s the entire obama alumni network and justto action attacked schumer for days on end after that. >> as the president's term is winding down, he recently butted heads with the president on this bill. paul: the political power of 9/11 is still very much alive and real. it overcame a lot of forces that were try to shut it down. basically, it was a bill that would allow people who lost loved ones, family members, in the 9/11 attacks to try to sue the saudi government further alleged role in having people financially supporting terrorists. it was a bill that the obama administration thought was going to roll their carefully layered
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negotiators in the middle east and they cannot stop it. and schumer, being the new yorker, this is one time -- and i will defer to jennifer on this -- but that was his -- jenifer: we said that twice, in the iran bill, too. that really enraged the white house. that is where we see the chuck schumer who cares a whole lot about his voters and his interest in new york. that may be one of the things we may be watching him balance as leader of his party and how much he can still be doing things for the state of new york. >> hard to do that as leader of your party in the stash and the senate? -- how to do that as leader of your party and the senate? jenifer: probably not so much in the time he can devote. >> was it easier to do that
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because the president was a lame duck president? paul: probably. the iran bill was a tougher problem because the democratic base by large across the country was supportive of it. and he was going against a president who was still popular with liberal voters. just a -- it became so politically bad, toxic, to be on the other side of that argument that it passed by unanimous consent in both the house and senate. jenifer: there was basically no debate. paul: that became an easier fight for him. >> the speech we are going to show you next is senator schumer talking about overwriting the president's veto. this is from september this year. [video clip] >> i rise today, to speak on behalf of my bill, the justice against sponsors of terrorism
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acts. soon, we will vote on whether or not to override the president's veto of this bill. this is a decision i do not take lightly. but, as one of the authors of this legislation and a firm believer in its purpose, i believe the senate should confidently vote to override and i will lay out the reasons why as clearly as i can. the bill is near and dear to my heart as a new yorker, because it would allow the victims of 9/11 to pursue some small measure of justice, finally giving them the legal avenue to pursue the foreign sponsors of a terrorist attack that took the lives of their loved ones. the courts in new york have dismissed the claims against foreign entities alleged of having helped the 9/11 attacks.
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these courts are filing what i believe is a fundamentally incorrect reading of the foreign sovereign immunities act. do we really want it established in precedent that foreign countries directly responsible for financing terrorist acts on u.s. soil are beyond the reach of justice? i don't think so. i don't think that, in a nature where we have state sponsors of terrorism, i don't think what -- i don't think that is what the foreign service amenities act ever intended. so for the sake of these families, it should be made clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that every entity, including foreign states, will be held accountable if they are sponsors of heinous acts like 9/11. >> you said he has been a proponent overall all things -- over all things new york in his sponsors of heinous acts like 9/11. career. you have seen his style evolved in terms of his presentation on the floor and his relationship
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with members on the floor. jenifer: paul earlier made a reference to his famous news conferences. though it's something cliche about chuck schumer that are a thing of the past. schumer is not running at the cameras were knocking over other members of congress to get front of the cameras. one of the greatest, most subtle evolution people have been following these years is that he has made the difficult move to become more for other people, helping people win, to raise money, to maintain power, to get legislation passed. he doesn't want to take credit for bills now. he will take a billing given to someone else for credit. >> let's talk about the relationship with the outgoing harry reid and mitch mcconnell. you said he was a protege of reid, but had a better
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relationship with mitch mcconnell. jenifer: harry reid and mitch mcconnell had a relationship that deteriorated significantly in recent years. in some sense, the relationship relationship with mitch mcconnell. with mitch mcconnell and senator schumer were the cause -- was the cause of a lot of it. i think there was a sense that they both want that relationship to be there. so they will try to make it work. >> word is that relationship looking like with mitch mcconnell? paul: the relationship between reid and schumer reached an epic level. they became each other's unit and yang -- each other's yen and yang. i don't know how chuck schumer will function in the senate without harry reid. he is so used to having harry reid there for sort of a more intuitive feel in decision-making.
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how does he get along with mcconnell? i think it will depend. it will depend on how partisan mcconnell is going to try to go with some of the legislation. it will depend -- a real big early flashpoint will be the supreme court nominee. we've had this vacancy now for nine or 10 months. trump is my to put up a nominee pretty quickly. and they still have the filibuster. are the democrats point to try to filibuster this nominee as sort of payback for the way merrick garland was never even given so much as a hearing? that could deteriorate the relationship he quickly if to filibuster this nominee as sort of payback for the way merrick garland was never even mcconnell accuses schumer of doing things that mcconnell himself might have done, but that will be a first key test. >> who is senator schumer is go to senator? who replaces chuck schumer?
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paul: i don't know that anybody can replace chuck schumer. but i think patty murray of washington is his most trusted lieutenant. he and durbin still have this leftover friction. patty murray is getting an enhanced title and responsibilities in her job, moving up to the number three spot in the leadership. i think that will be a key relationship. and then there are some other people here and there. some of them are in lower-level leaderships, like debbie stabenow. some are out in the committee's, where you will see ranking members like jack reed of rhode island. >> there's quite a range in the new leadership that he has chosen. jenifer: it's true. there's also senators he helped get elected. they spent a lot of time together. there's a lot of mutual
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gratitude. so he invested something personally in those men and women. paul: the 2018 class of the democrats coming up, a bunch of them were elected in 2006. sherri brown, jon tester. and those are the people he got elected. so he is really going to want to see those folks when because they are his closest friends. >> in terms of close, personal relationships, paul did an interview with senator shooter -- senator schumer. let's take a look. >> some people out there may not know this but you are a couple master. i saw you run into brian and katie fallon. one of your most esteemed couples, former workers who got married because they work for you. how many schumer couples are there right now? >> mike lynch, my chief of staff, he is a schumer marriage. a schumer marriage is, you did not know each other, you met on schumer staff, and got married.
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i do try to import in certain instances in my characteristically delicate way. but sometimes on the last and no. >> is it because you are such a demanding boss that they have no life other than the office that they end up getting married together? >> a good spin on schumer marriages is, migrate chief of staff, the closest knit staff, they celebrate all the holidays together. we are a -- and they go out drinking a lot. [laughter] we are the closest knit staff would be the good spin. the bad spin would be yours, that they have to work so much that they don't meet anybody else.
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>> any changes expected and his staff? paul: he will definitely expand his staff. essentially, you get dozens of positions that now come open. some of those will be holdovers and will stick around, people that have certain expertise in parliamentary procedure are really hard to find. so some of those will stick around. others -- one of a fallout that is beneficial in how bad things went for democrats is the stack of resumes for people applying for these jobs with senator schumer now is a lot different and a lot higher and a lot more fleet because -- more wheat because nobody's going into the west wing. that means that he will get some high-caliber talent. >> changes for senator schumer
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in terms of staff or approach the job? jenifer: in terms of staff, picking up on what paul said, it is not easy to work with paul schumer. he implies that there. we know he has these monday night murder boards, where he comes in from new york as late as he possibly can and he votes or does his thing and then his staff comes in, one by one, to brief him on the important items of the week, sometimes at 10:30 at night. so you need to know your stuff or you will not succeed in chuck schumer land. i'm sure he will be very picky. we will see if he can continue that monday night tradition, just how micromanaging he can remain on local issues and even broader policy issues if he is busy leading. >> let's talk about new yorker versus new yorker, donald trump and chuck schumer. donald trump tweeted shortly after the election i've always had a good relationship with chuck schumer.
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he is far smarter than harry reid and has the ability to get things done. good news. here you have manhattan versus brooklyn. what are you looking for? paul: i'm looking to see whether these two have a good relationship. schumer has been to mar-a-lago for a fundraiser, raised $250,000 at trump's venue. he is very stern and saying i don't have a good relationship with him. some of his rental places were in my district and i knew him a little bit when i was in the house. again, i want to come back to that supreme court pick herod that will also tell us a lot about -- pick. that will tell us a lot about chuck schumer and if he will try to marginalize him. jenifer: he is the only person in washington that donald trump actually knows. he has laid eyes on paul ryan a
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half dozen times in nine months. he has no relationship with mitch mcconnell and it has no cultural connection to him whatsoever. he knows chuck schumer many years. he donated to his campaign. they are from the same state. they ran somewhere in the same circles in that they were both powerful new yorkers. so they know each other. they have some thing to work with. that is a mean that they will see i die on policy nominations. and i'm sure chuck schumer will be -- that does not mean that they will see eye to eye on policy nominations. and i'm sure chuck schumer will be -- >> a look ahead at the democratic leadership of senator charles schumer. thanks to both of you for joining us. paul: thank you. jenifer: thank you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] the new congress meets for
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the first time in january and will include several new members. >> president-elect jason lewis representing the second district in minnesota, republican. did you do before you were elected to congress? >> when i had a real job, i was in broadcasting for did you do e elected to congress? >> 25 years and retired in august of 2014, thought i would spend more time watching my girls swim, which is a 24/7 job. i thought i could make a difference, so i jumped in. >> what were you doing in broadcasting? rep. lewis: may be the first talk radio guy who got elected. it's nice to be a pioneer. we talked about the issues and interviewed a number of members over the years. it feels nice to come here and now serve with them. >> what you think about that background of being a
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conservative talk show radio host? does that help you, do you think? rep. lewis: there are pluses and minuses to every candidate. you have 25 years of opposition research. everything you've ever said will be out there. people in the second district knew who jason lewis was. some of the distortions took place, they knew better. so that was very good. ways, but it served me well and i'm kind of a policy guy. i enjoy talking about it and now i get a chance hopefully to make some. >> why did you decide to run and when? rep. lewis: you want to step to the plate at some point and make a difference. this is like 1980, where you can really have an impact this cycle. i watch the reagan revolution from afar and how fortunate i am to be in art of the -- part of the new one, perhaps. >> where did you grow up? what's your background? iowa.ewis: i grew up in
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my mother was in north minneapolis rate as my holidays in minneapolis and up north at the lake every summer. when i get a chance to go back to minnesota, i jumped at the chance and that is my home. we love minnesota. >> tell us about your family. rep. lewis: i have a wife, two daughters, all swimmers. the first time i went to a swim meet, it was 8:00 in the morning. 12 hours later i was still there. having a wife who actually sawm -- swam makes it easy because she understands she has to be there to 12 hours. it's been really good for the kids and they love it. irep. lewis: did not know much , but i sure do now. >> younger kids? what your family becoming out to washington? rep. lewis: i hope so. we will keep our home in minnesota because i have a daughter in high school. we will stay in minnesota. >> where will you live here while in washington? rep. lewis: good question.
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if i could predict that or interest rates, i would probably have a different job. i'm looking around right now. >> who has been a big influence on you in your life? rep. lewis: my father. i can or member as a kid getting up early in the morning and he would grab the newspaper. when i get up, grab the my daughter grabs the sports section. off, even wears though you may not think about it at the time, just that leading by example. that was a big influence on offn though you may not think about it at the me. rep. lewis: -- >> what would he say about public service? >> i lost my father in 1989. i wish you were here in many ways. i think he would be pretty proud of the kid, pretty neat. >> what do you want to do while you're in washington? rep. lewis: there so many. that's why it's exciting to be part of the congress this cycle. we have the opportunity to move the needle. we have to get the economy moving again.
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growing at 1% -- we haven't moved 3% since 2007. five quarters during the reagan era we were growing at 5%, 6%, growth, we still have an economy on life support. we have to jumpstart the economy . i think it means the regulation in many areas, tax reform, and minnesota being the epicenter of the health care crisis, we have to take a strong look at that. >> do you have any political heroes that represent what you are talking about the issues you want to work on? rep. lewis: reagan was a big influence. one night in the san fernando valley had to be the day before the election or tonight's before the election, i have a chance to go to a rally. ended up working on jack camps presidential campaign. going back to reagan, you also
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sometimes have to be tough. i paid for this microphone, mr. greene. sometimes you've got to hold your ground to. all ine got to do -- want to do is make sure we have a government that promotes freedom and prosperity. >> what was it about that reagan event you will never forget? rep. lewis: i was a 24-year-old kid who just graduated, went to california to work, fame and fortune, then i was in the san fernando valley tonight's before he was elected and i gave him a thumbs up and he gave one back. then i had a chance to meet him later on in life and that was really neat. >> what was it about that, him just looking at you? rep. lewis: he was the first candidate in my political life that you felt stood for something. in politics, the old groucho marx line. that is what resonated with him.
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that's what people want. they don't have to agree with you 100% of the time. you are just going to try to do what's best. if you believe it's best and they may not agree 100% of the time, that's good enough for a lot of voters, do what you think is best for your district. advice we gotten any from the political leaders in your party? rep. lewis: sure. .ost of it confidential here is what i would do. we had a seminar, what i would do different if i were a freshman member again. the old adage is, freshman are probably better seen and heard. >> why? rep. lewis: there's a learning curve here, as with anybody. you want to make sure you know what you are doing. that doesn't mean you can't be part of something really big. we're going to have monumental votes and there will be a flurry of activity.
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that's what makes this so much fun, so exciting. >> c-span will be there. representative, thank you for your time. rep. lewis: my pleasure. >> join us on tuesday, january that's what makes this so much fun, so exciting. >>3, for live coverage of the opening day of the new congress. watch the official swearing-in of the new, reelected members of the house and senate. and the election of the speaker of the house. live coverage of the day's events from capitol hill begins at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span, and c-span.org. or you can listen to it on the free c-span radio app. >> c-span'sday's events from cal begins at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span, and c-span.org. "washington journal," live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. monday morning, the "washington post" national security writer. a retired colonel who worked
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extensively with the incoming defense secretary general mattis will share his insights. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> this week on c-span in prime time, monday night at 8:00 eastern, hear from some of the democrats vying to lead the party, including ray buckley, chair of the new hampshire democratic hardy. jamie harrison, chair of south carolina's democratic party, and the representative for minnesota. >> did you know that in 2014 we hit a 17 year low in voter turnout? the democratic caucus smaller than any time since truman? we got a lot of rebuilding to do. >> tuesday night at 8:00, president barack obama and japanese prime minister shinzo abe visit the american naval base at pearl harbor. mr. abe is a first sitting
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japanese leader to visit the site of the attack that launched u.s. involvement in world or to. -- world war ii. wednesday night at 8:00, a review of senate and house hearings on topics including the flint, michigan water crisis, and the wells fargo unauthorized account scandal. >> you found out that one of your decisions had created 2 million fake accounts, fired thousands of employees for improper behavior, and had cheated thousands of your own customers, and you didn't even once consider firing her ahead of her retirement? >> thursday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, some of the political figures that passed away in 2016, including the former first lady nancy reagan and the supreme court justice antonin scalia. our innight at 8:00, memoriam program continues. this week in prime time, on c-span.
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