tv Mike Judge Discusses Silicon Valley CSPAN January 1, 2017 1:08pm-1:25pm EST
bleaker movie. "silicon valley" as a glimmer of hope. >> "o'connor valley" is more hopeful. -- "silicon valley" is more hopeful. they came to me about videogame developers and i don't know that world at all. but what about something like this? that is kind of how it started. >> i want to talk about the research you've done, including coming to disrupt secretly for research and then you came on stage. what was that first visit like? was it pretty much what you expected? than i expected, better than i expected. it was eye-opening. we had shot the pilot. the way it works in tv, you have left pilots first episode. and green with a series
alek bird, a co-show runner and writer with me came on board and we were sitting there in the office thinking we've got to make up all the stuff. we don't even know what these people do really. we know is people building this thing. we just are doing a ton of research. i didn't even know what tech crunch disrupt was. launchpad l.a. is an incubator in l.a. and she told us about battlefield. and that's all we need. we need some drama. so we came up and sort of spider on you guys. watchedd around and we the whole start of the battlefield and it's perfect for our show. manage -- you mentioned alek, your co-show runner.
you shots of footage here. so when people watch those episodes of the show, they sort of complained about how dude-heavy that footage was. you were, no, that's actual disrupt. do you feel there are things we could be doing better for diversity? >> that was 2013 when i came here. it seems like there's been a huge push for diversity, which is great. the --ckstage, there was what's it called? the girls -- i'm forgetting the name. but the 16-year-old girl who did the app that recognizes symptoms of parkinson's, incurable stuff. >> oh, wow. >> i was actually walking around with a canon five d just shooting stuff myself, not thinking it would be in the show, just a kind of show extras
-- yeah,f people what this is what they look like. it was 85% dudes in the audience shot. athink alec was talking to high of coo of a very big covidien she said the audience shot was kind of sexist. that is the real audience. when you do satire, you take what is there in your exaggerated. but we didn't really have to exaggerate much. >> part of the reason i bring that up is reading that quote. totally fair. one of the things about the show itself is that the main cast is largely male, largely quiet/asian, and as you said, , and as you/asian said, the show changes about the way people to give out engineers attack. do you think the cast should
reflect that, too? >> i didn't want to come off phony hollywood pandering. i wanted to be realistic. all the research i did was a very high percentage of men. rule -- a pretty big room at google with 200 and i think there were two women. when you're doing satire, you're making fun of it. so that was our way of cooking fun at the world. i didn't anticipate just how kind of charged up this issue was. i had done a show, king of the hill, first 13 seasons. in the entire 13 years, nobody ever complained that there weren't any women working in propane. [laughter] so i was on of, like, oh, this is tech. but i get it. moneye is not a lot of
and power in it, so nobody cares about the world of propane. true --tech moves and into propane -- >> yes, once this bubble bursts. [laughter] valley,orked in silicon mobley mumble, years ago. when you came back to do the research for the show, did you feel this was a continuing version of what i did or is it different? >> it's different in a lot of ways. i think the characters are kind of the same. definitely the landscape is changed. when i worked here in the late 1980's, it was kind of hardware was the thing. the barrier to entry to a startup was a little higher because you had to have -- it just took more money. we couldn't just get three or four people who program and
build an app. .here were no cell phones courts me look great. >> thank you. clean living. i think the characters are kind of similar. i think the characters that i put in "office space", had they been born 20 years later could have easily been in a startup. it's kind of just more money involved. i remember back then thinking the rent was high and i had an apartment in east palo alto and it was all he could afford. thinking this can't get any more kept --e and it just more and more money flooding into this place. >> one of the things you said about silicon valley in this yorker" wasthe new that you said one of the
constructs right now is between hippiesrtarian and the of silicon valley. to that seem like a unique phenomenon to you? >> i think that was still kind of going on a little bit when i was here. when i was working intact. i think the hippies will always win no matter what. >> really? [laughter] >> what was interesting to me is there is a lot of money at play and a lot of companies competing for billions of dollars and users in all the stuff. and in wall street, they just kind of -- it's like the old -- we areke, where hedge fund guys and get region whatever. here, it's sort of shrouded in this we are making the world a better place and a lot of these apps are. but for comedy, it is a funny thing to make fun of.
i think that comes out of hippie culture, which isn't a bad thing. there's a lot more attention on just charity and all this kind of stuff here than you would have in new york in the 1980's. >> to be fair, i think you guys have made it a lot harder for a start up to come on stage and say we make the world a better place. mostly, thank you for that. [laughter] >> it was funny. when -- we had hired the writers and we took them to launchpad l.a. they had seen the pilot. we had done the pilot, which had all that stuff in it. they bring out their first started to talk to us. it is five guys. it's like then -- same ratio. they did their pitch. it was a combine all your music into one thing. and at the end, they said we are
making the world a better place. it was basically our group in the pilot. do you think him a we talk about this idea, dressing up a idea in this rhetoric, do you think that is a good thing? i live in new york and there are some people who feel like it would just rather see you be more honest and say, yeah, man, we just want to make a ton of money. >> i suppose it doesn't matter that much. anthony: just funnier. mike: coming from hollywood where it is a little more in the middle, like i do not think you would hear jj abrams say why are you making star wars, because i want to make the world a better place and improve people slides.
i want to make a kick cast movie -- kickass movie and i love star wars. it is just something fun to make fun of. i do not think anyone is doing anything awful by saying that. anthony: as the show has gone on, you build an incredible network of april who consulted -- of people who consult on the show, including the former ceo of twitter and a whole bunch of people, right? mike: yes. we have been very lucky to have so many great consultants and people reach out to us and tell us great stories. when alex and i were just sitting in the office saying, what do we do here, we have got to learn about the role than we do not know enough, we had a guy who is still on the show, who was just immensely helpful. that informed a lot of what we wrote about. now we have -- right after he left twitter, he came and actually will sit in the writers
room with us today's week. , he and she came and sat in the writers room with us two days a week. it was awesome. that has a nice. anthony: there are people who work full-time on the show. as you have the at, and silicon valley in general has embraced the show, does it make it harder to do biting satire? mike: i do not think so. the kind of people we have become friends with tend to not take themselves very seriously. the ones that do, we do not end up talking too much. for example, he was in our show talking to jeremy about how someone sold him a bad vineyard.
you know, that is pretty self-deprecating, i think. anthony: another thing that happened that is weird is as the show became popular in the industry, you actually got people who are inspired by silk -- by silicon valley. as a satirist especially, what is that like for you? mike: that is great. i mean, when i did "office space," i had a lot of people who came up to me and told me that inspired them to the job. yet, i've heard that a little bit and i think it's great. i love it and i think it is, you know, it feels good to build something and do something your own way. i can relate. anthony: fundamentally "office space," you are like it is corrupt and terrible. fundamentally, you do not silicon valley is as screwed up.
mike: we are writing a show about these characters. if we completely believed what they did was bad or stupid, you would not want to. -- you wouldn't want to watch it. in real life, i would want to, i would like the characters and root for them. i like that part of the world, the startup part of it. >> the u.s. response to hacking in the presidential campaign was the topic on abc's "this week." we hear from adam schiff, ranking member of the house select intelligence committee. you do see the headline. "russian malicious cyber
attack." >> it's a question of getting the information. everyone in the media wants to jump forward and make a conclusion based on other sourced information, anonymous sources that are coming out of the intelligence -- >> this is more than anonymous. >> with this says is that the dnc had a problem with their i.t. security and people try to hack it and they need to do a better job. russians -- >> when we talking about the other influences on the election. why are we talking about hillary clinton getting the debate questions at a time? -- no one's asking those questions. and the fact is that everyone wants to talk -- make donald trump admittance or things.
when are we going to talk about the other side of this, like tot is what hillary doing influence election, and is she being punished for this? hady boss at the time gotten the debate questions and handed them off, he would have been driven out of this town and donald trump would have been vilified. no one wants to ask those questions now. briefed on then intelligence. how solid is the evidence it was the russians. >> gets solid. it is overwhelming. the president-elect also said he knows things that other people don't know. he needs to stop talking this way if he is without any credibility as president. he needs to stop denigrating the intelligence community. he's going to rely on them. he's going to have to rely on them and this is the overwhelming judgment of the intelligence community and frankly all the members of the intelligence committees in congress, democrats, con -- democrats, republicans, no one has any questions about this.
one thing worse than someone who wins elective office after everyone told them would win news someone who wins elective office when everyone told them that they would not. this has bipartisan support in congress for sure sanctions against russia. >> if he works one do what president obama has done? rigorousl be for more -- for sections against russia. you will see them come together with a strong sanctions package though, frankly, even what the administration was more than symbolic, it was very meaningful, it is not enough to deter russia. >> the new congress starts today. watch all the opening-day events and activities on c-span. we are live from the u.s. capitol starting at 7:00 a.m. eastern. you will meet new representatives and hear from returning members. noonouse gavels in at