tv British Youth Parliament Debates Mental Health Care CSPAN January 3, 2017 1:19am-2:08am EST
>> more than 300 members of the u.k.'s youth parliament, age 11 to 18, gathered recently for their annual debate. the first segment looked at cuts to the uk's national health service, with a focus on mental health services. this is about 50 minutes. >> thank you very much. a very friendly bunch this year. in previous years it hasn't been this friendly, but thank you. order, order. welcome to the eight sitting at the uk youth parliament in the house of commons chamber. this marks the beginning of uk parliament week, i program of
events and activities which connects people with the united kingdom parliament. this year the are over 250 activities and events taking place across the uk. the issues to be debated today were chosen by the annual nature marked ballot of 11-18 euros. the british youth council reported, but once again the number of votes has increased with 978,216 young people casting a vote this year. today, the uk youth parliament will choose the issues which it wishes to have as a subject of its priority campaigns for 2017. this years youth parliament also marks the third year of the memorial award which was set up in the wake of the passing of paul bosket who was one of the
driving forces behind the uk youth parliament and the british youth council. british youth council support workers, parliamentary staff and guests will have the opportunity today to vote in two categories, best debate lead speech, and best backbench contribution. presentation of awards will take place at a reception in january of next year. today's proceedings will be broadcast live on the internet. members of the youth parliament, as you know, at 11:00 we will observe two minutes silence for armistice day. we have a tiny bit of time before then, at a just just want to take this opportunity to underline what i think should be obvious to you, and that is that
everyone here present, i feel this very strongly, the leader of the house of commons, david lullingstone from whom you will shortly here, the chandelier of the house house of commons, the minister for civil society rob wilson, all of who work in the service of the house, all who work for the british youth council, all of your support workers here present and many besides are wishing you well. we are cheering you on here it would be absurd for me to say, if you know you're going to be speaking or if you hope to speak, don't be nervous. of course you will feel a great sense of occasion, and it will be strange if there weren't a real adrenaline running for you. it is right and proper that there should be. but you will, i'm sure, master
your nerves rather than allowing your nerves to master you. we are all on your side. we are very proud here in the house of commons to host this great event. you probably know it is a huge an deal in my mind, incredibly important fixture in our annual parliamentary calendar. all of us are wishing you to suceed. i hope it's a great day. we have just over a minute to go before we have our two minute s' silence for armistice day, and after the silence we would hear from the leader of the house and hear a message read from the prime minister before we get into our formal proceedings. i think that it is a great day. i will have a countdown of just over 40 seconds to speak.
house of commons mr. david lidington. [applause] >> mr. speaker thank you and thank you to members of the youth parliament could mr. speaker i think you and i would probably both agree that the great things that we have received are a welcome contrast for the time that we may get from our colleagues from normal working sessions. i would like to say first that it is appropriate that the this session should take place on armistice day. here in westminster we remember not just those who died but also the importance of the values of parliament, the principles of a democratic and free society for which they made that sacrifice
and the shield that you see at either end of this chamber has been inscribed to recall the names of those members of the house of comments who fell during the first and second world wars along with those who in more recent years were murdered by terrorists who also sought to attack the democratic values and institutions of this country. those principles of democracy, debate, tolerance and accountability unites members from all political parties on both sides of this house and the leader of the house part of my role is to reaffirm and uphold those ideals. i wanted to explain mr. speaker two colleagues here a little bit about my job because it has two
parts. it is in part representing the government in parliament where i sit as a member of theresa may's cabinet and i'm in charge of managing the government annual program. but also representing parliament and cabinet and in government as a whole and this notion sometimes comes as a surprise to those who may think harlemite and government are essentially the same thing. after all there are constitutional systems the government stand on its ability to command authority here in the house of commons. and it was not for that majority of my task trying to deliver the government -- would be a bit more challenging but for parliament to matter, for parliament to play its full role, a distinctive role of public life it is essential that it's able to operate as a strong independent institution in its
own right so this chamber has been performing that function for hundreds of years. the scrutiny of legislation by members, their questions every day to ministers, the work of inquiry by the select committees of the house results and we hope better and more accountable government and certainly better quality legislation. that oversight work, that's scrutiny by parliament underpins the concept of ministerial accountability. in the british system ministers who are themselves members of the legislature also have to stand at this dispatch box or in the select committee and be questioned and held to account for the decisions that they have taken as part of the executive.
thanks to you, mr. speaker, the increased use of the urgent question is made parliament even more responsive to most pressing matters of the day even though it occasionally causes a certain amount of discomfort to ministers when they summon their actual motives. parliament's ability to reflect the concerns and interests of british citizens depends on its status as a representative institution. this house has a proud history of ensuring the voices of marginalized and socially excluded groups are heard and reflected in public debates and it is probably a little known part of the routines of pretty well every member of parliament regardless of party, regardless of the county they represent but their work brings them into contact week by week with people from every part of our society and we in that constituency will have to confront head-on those
who are the victims of injustice or those who feel that society in some way is not working for them. and as leader of the house, i think that tradition of all parliament is something which it is of vital importance that we uphold in which the government too must support. our objective must be nothing short of trying to build a democracy that works for everyone and critical to that objective was assuring the voices of young people of their interests are heard loud and clear. that is why the government not only supports the youth parliament in its mission but also takes an interest in the subject which you choose to debate. previously the youth parliament members have debated issues such as mental health, the living
wage and these are all extremely important questions and so too are the issues you will be debating later. i am particularly interested to hear when i read the accounts of today's debate your consideration of how we might seek to build a better kinder democracy to take the wording that you will be debating later on. so my message to colleagues from the youth parliament is that just as the government is committed to engaging with parliament so it will continue to take a great interest in the work of the youth parliament too and that's why it is significant and right that they annual sitting takes place where we are right now. this chamber is the united kingdom's parliamentary democracy and the fact that these debates take place here sends a signal about the importance of the uk youth
parliament but it's the parliamentarians and the government it means that both mps here in the house and ministers in white falls will be listening to hear what you have to say. i hope you will go away today not only having enjoyed and relish the experience but also with a sense that you will feel confident about communicating to your colleagues and contemporaries that this is their parliament as much as it is the parliament of me or my colleagues in government or colleagues in the opposition or even you mr. speaker. it is the parliament of young people as much as of anyone else this is still the place where you can seek to change this country and its society and the way that you think it needs to be changed for the better and of
course there will be many different ideas, contested ideas about what change for the better actually means. that is what democratic debate is all about but too often in the united kingdom the voice of young people is absent and with the boys -- with the vote of young people is absent decisions are still taken which affect young people's lives but which they have not always chosen in significant numbers to help shape the opportunities were there. so i hope that you will take that message back that this is a parliament for you, for all young men and women in this country, seize those opportunities, enjoy today and help us build that better more vibrant democracy which those of us here on both sides of the house also long to see you. thank you.
[applause] >> thank you very much. i called lawand omar to come forward and read a message from the prime minister. [applause] >> thank you fellow mps. i would like to welcome you to the house of commons into the uk parliament. congratulations to you all for your fantastic achievement in this year's -- understand just under 1 million votes were cast. this represents another year-on-year increase in the number of young people voting and this is great to see. thank you all for the effort you have put into this worthwhile democratic campaign.
i believe part of government's role is to build a better and stronger democracy for future generations. i want the uk to be the meritocracy of the world in a fundamental part of this is to ensure that all young people get the best start to life. i am determined to build the country that works for everyone and ensure that young people could go as far as the talent show regardless of their background. uk youth parliament is a wonderfully inclusive example of democracy in action. you come from all different backgrounds and represent the breadth and the diversity of our society today. this opportunity is one you can use to build the skills you need to succeed ilife. by being part of today's event you are or were they on the path to making a positive change. the points you make today are valuable and it's important that we listen to you. i hope you have a fantastic day in the commons and i wish you
the best future. [applause] >> thank you very much indeed for that and our thanks of course to the prime minister for her support which is extremely important to the uk youth parliament. order, order. the youth parliament will now consider the first motion of the day. we must stop cuts that affect the nhs. the motion is printed on the order paper. to move the motion i call from yorkshire expecting a very warm welcome from you all, ashley gregory. [applause]
>> thank you mr. speaker. in 1942 sir william beveridge said medical treatment will be provided for citizens by national health service and the nhs is worn. four years later the national health service is provided for kalamazoo people across the county and provides a bare minimum. the government sets out plans for the nhs to make 20 billion in efficiency savings. the important issue is whether or not this will affect the quality of service it has provided. it's more than double the amount the government spends on the entire transport department and we mustn't under stress and make the scale of savings that are to be made. these savings affect all the attractive amount of time you waitor yr door to the availability and your local authority.
we have already seen the devastating effects these cuts are having. here the proposals in this department and given the go-ahead to centralize services in halifax meaning of people needing often lifesaving treatment are having trouble getting this. we must have our interest -- and stop the cuts. the local level many services finding the funding they receive per patient is reducing for this include services such as school nursing. if they are vital services. the health scare is becoming post-care lottery depending on the funding of local area receives readily this is fundamentally wrong. over the past to the uk youth parliament has been campaigning to improve mental health services and we have seen amazing changes especially where we have met with service providers. we should continue to improve
mental health services across the country. this cannot be possible if we allow the devastating cuts to the nhs to take ways. this will dismantle damage and dissolve national health service services that we all know and love. everyone has mental health and the court should not put this at stake. we should be lopping local nhs and unions to protect services specifically for young people pay to me that one available appointment in your department could potentially be the difference between the life-and-death threatening situation. the nhs is a complex issue but that doesn't mean the change is impossible. change happens when you fight for what you believe in. change happened in 1948 when the nhs was founded and change can happen hertoday in this chamber. the nhs will last as long as -- and i ask you all a question do you have the faith to fight for your nhs?
thank you. [applause] >> ashley thank you for a very fluid and assurance start your proceedings. to oppose the motion i call from the east of england hoping and expecting that you will give this speaker and equally enthusiastic and warm welcome, nicholas gardiner. [applause] >> thank you. the national health service is one of the uk's greatest institutions. based on the privilege of universal health care and a core principle that we should protect and preserve. however, it would not be an understatement to say the nhs is
one of the most suffocated principle that we should protect aspects of government with so many moving parts and the question i pose to you today is this. what lasting change can we really make on the sprawling beast and while these are challenges that are great in our time is short with we have an issue that is so complex and so fraught with difficulty, a here spent on this campaign would be a here spent just trying to get grips with the issues that face the nhs. cuts could steer us away from the true issues of the nhs, maintaining high standards shorter waiting times, less bureaucracy or greater services. our doctors and nurses are some of the best in the world but we must ensure they are able to
continue to deliver high-quality of service in the climate of great old prussian. policy mr. speaker it's key. is the nhs really without money? dandridge's and just writing a blank check this and raise stdards. we have all had experience as demonstrated in our parliamentary health campaigns and should we wait for nhs driven by quality of service rather than quantity of money. finally, what would a national campaign that like where health services are dealt with on a local basis? county, not countries responsible for many of our services now and issues may not be the same in the northeast as the southwest. we struggle to coordinate a national message as we face
different issues from nhs trusts to nhs trusts. now, we young people should give her undivided commitment to health care free but this campaign is not the way to do it now, we young people should give and i am willing to fight for the nhs but it must be one worth fighting for not one that may waste money on aging infrastructure but a high-quality and safer in the works for every young person and benefits every young person across this great country. thank you very much. [applause] >> nicholas, thank you very much. now i would like to call the speaker from scotland. is the speaker willing to contribute from scotland's?
not if you don't want to. yes? very well. >> the nhs was created to ensure that poverty and the pain and suffering before the war -but if we can connect with everyone regardless who they are we have the supported to the nhs is one of the most important institutions in the most is important is just in the united kingdom and we must do everything we can to protect it. [applause] >> who wants to contribute from wales? is anybody here from wales that was to contribute to this debate lacks not if you don't want to. you do. the gentlemen here. >> the nhs is one of united kingdom's national treasures.
it's a neat virtue of our country. very few countries have a health care system like our own and therefore we need to preserve it and move towards stopping cuts that affect our nhs. i feel very strongly about this issue. he worked so very hard to improve our health care system so we should work equally as hard to help preserve our health care system. thank you. [applause] >> every year i always strive incredibly hard to get almost an exact, almost an exact gender balance insofar we have heard from the man. we have a female speaker from the west midlands?
no, not in this debate? in this case i'm going to look somewhere else. who have we got two wishes to contribute from the southeast? anybody from the southeast? >> your moment here. >> would the recent fall uk economy is much weaker. cuts to services and is transformative as the campaign sounds is not achievable. how are we as the youth parliament going to convince the government? i think we should focus where we have seen a change in the year. [applause] >> what about the northeast of england? have we got anybody wanting to contribute from the northeast? please. >> the nhs is at the heart and soul of each of our lives from
every birth to every death dealing with the physical and emotional pain that we suffer. to fund the nhs is not just the first step that we need is for our future. as nyp's we have to think about what we want out of our nhs. i would like to guarantee the free service throughout my life made for all young people and for everybody that deserves it. [applause] >> thank you, hanna. i was a convincing speech and a speech delivered without it -- that was quite outstanding, well done. have we got anyone wanting to contribute to this debate from northern ireland's? not from northern ireland's? that was quite outstanding, well done.
okay cool who is the guy from london who wants to take part in this debate? what about the young woman in the back with the black jacket. >> i represent the borough. the nhs sees over 1 million patients and 3 million patients in england alone and approximately 6 million patients in england. okay cool who is the guy from cutting funding for nhs affects every single one of us. not only does the nhs provides a considerable amount of employment that is such a critical servers that x. critical servers that x. is so important. cuts can be considered simply because it would fall apart without it. critical servers that x. is so important. cuts can be considered simply because it would fall apart without it. [applause] >> how about a contributor from the east midlands? yes, the young man they are. >> think you mr. speaker. i myself love the nhs and i
would like give my respect to the workers of nhs even in dire economic times. the regular parliament this is ms. chamber filled this is an issue that should not be addressed by young people when their batteries is a prominent time. i call upon you the government has trouble doing with nhs as well as the eu economy. i feel the youth parliament cannot do anything more effective than is currently being achieved one thing we can do however is tackle discrimination. in my opinion the more important campaign of fighting for discrimination at the highest authority meets every fiber of our being and time. [applause] >> thank you. >> now someone from the northwest. we will try to cover as many as we can.
the young woman with the red dress. >> thank you mr. speaker. my name is victoria. now the topic it's not surprising has come in under the top five. as you can tell a lot of the same people feel like we need to do something about it. the nhs is very important but do we have the power and do we have influenced to be able to make a decision that the parliament stopped this court? as we have said before it's not the parliament is the best the cuts. if the parliament has to decide and i think as a young elected representative that we have much more important issues to deal with like stopping cuts to youth
services. in my opinion and in the opinion of many people here we don't have the power to stop the cuts. thank you. [applause] >> who do we have from yorkshire and hamper side. the gentlemen nearest to me with the longish hair. excellent, thank you. >> thank you mr. speaker. i would like to highlight the fact that the members of united kingdom youth parliament, we are a future organization. i must say the austerity is some terrible behemoth that must be slave. how do we hope to approach the tremendous issue in an unbiased fashion -- thank you.
[applause] >> what about the delegation from london? who is interested from london yes, the young woman here. >> i represent the london borough of hamlet and the reason i feel cuts affect the nhs is really important is not just because they are cuts affecting people's physical health but under the services we have mental health provision which are art and are funded than they are already suffering. that means young people are getting the services that they need in order to treat the mental health issues or even to seek help for these issues. and so in the uk when cuts against the nhs are made the nhs is therefore unable to add funding to mental health services which is already
underfunded. by cutting it even more clear there for having another affect some of the young people who suffer with mental health issues there are no provisions available or there aren't enough which is why i feel strongly that we should vote on this motion. thank you. [applause] >> west midlands. the gentleman from west midlands. >> thank you. my biggest concern with this is if you add up the shortfall of funding for the nhs for this year is probably around 6 billion if we can do it now for certain we won't be able to do it in the coming years.
the second problem is psychological pressure for future medics as well is beyond one's worth thinking about it. the huge pressure for the nhs is affecting their attitudes and finally the youth services are slightly, are affected disproportionately for example 11% less school nurses i believe this year. [applause] >> thank you. now are there people from the northwest who stood? the tennessee two demonstrative or tends to increase by the year and i say this in no insulting or critical spirit. i was much struck by the gendelman with the green jacket in the pink dress who was in a state of almost uncontrollable excitement. we look forward to hring fm you, please. >> my name is jennifer and i'm from scottsboro. the nhs is aextremely important service.
it has a drastic impact on my life and it has drastic impacts on my dad's life who had a brain hemorrhage. this one-year campaign could -- our campaigns only lasts one year. we are doing our nhs a disservice by campaigning for only one year. we can't really do anything. it's a lifelong campaign that we should all be looking for entire lives. by making it our campaign we are just wasting money because we can do something in one year. there are much more important issues here that we can do in one year. it's a disservice to her nhs to
spend our time and our efforts. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much indeed. now can i enter scotland again? >> molly kirby northey scotland. our generation epidemic that was the response the parliament got from young people of our nation when we asked them what do you think of mental health? i believe we are facing a fundamental crisis in our mental health services. i really strongly believe that we can help young people. imagine what we could do with a campaign does top mental health
cuts. there is no need to cut funding from the nhs. if we can take people -- and paris then certainly we can have funding to secure our nhs. [applause] >> thank you very much indeed. there are two parts of the uk so far which i have been unable to elicit speakers. southwest, can i ask anyone from the southwest. there is a young woman brandishing a document by the way of people that say their name that would be great.
>> i'm carroll lewis. the nhs deals with everyday emergencies. the junior doctors who came to my previous school teaching cpr, very valuable skill. [applause] all over the country in our constituencies they want students to be committed but you cannot just fight for -- could i ask can we help? i would like to thank members of the chamber for taking a very strong interest in mental health and physical health and everything else in nature is covers including my area constantine were looking into young people's mental health. we need to fight for the unheard and the poor and fight for us to
ever take up day by day needing help and not getting it because of the cuts preparation and encourage our generation into the medical field a very valuable field and hold regular chamber the account selection but we cannot do that by her cells. thank you mr. speaker. >> thank you. [applause] thank you very much. when you mentioned it i thought of rebecca powell who is an active member this parliament. if you are elected in the parliament she is in this chamber and you are taking an active and conscious interest in the pattern going to make one last effort to attract a speaker from northern ireland. northern ireland? perhaps the g woman towards the back, thank you. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i agree that the nhs is an important service and we should
be able to adopt the freedom to deliberate. but what about the fire, police, the schools? we cannot ignore the fact that austerity is dominating public services. i agree that it's very important to fund the nhs, we must fund all of our public services. how are we supposed to pat -- have access to poke -- public services if we don't put any money into them? i do agree that you should fund the nhs. but please, think twice about funding for other public services. thank you. [applause] mr. speaker: thank you very much indeed from that. we've had participants from all parts of the country and that's extremely welcome. to conclude the debate -- >> what about the east of
england? [public groaning] mr. speaker: we had somebody at the beginning of the debate. we have a contributor for the front bench on east of england, if there is a backbench contributor, i should be delighted to hear him or her. [laughter] mr. speaker: thank you, that is a very fair heckle. that's what we call an orderly heckle. ok, this gentleman here. thank you. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the nhs is a fundamental part of the united kingdom. it is a very british organization. imagine losing [indiscernible] [laughter] >> imagine losing "great british bake-off" on the bbc. [public groaning] >> the nhs is vital to the
infrastructure of the united kingdom. i'm proud to say my grandmother served in the nhs and i'm so proud of my aunt, who serves in the nhs. these are our future jobs. members of you who are currently studying a-levels, whatever you study, your future jobs are at stake, but also the jobs of people currently working in the nhs. it is completely underfunded. remember, it is our future. now, it is a critical part of british infrastructure. i have to say that the nhs car for each press. no matter whoever you are, black, white, gay, straight, rich, poor, we all have free access to health care. so that all of our teachers have access. so that all of our religious leaders have access. so that your transport drivers have access. so that our politicians have access. have you noticed how each of the
debates are coming? all and iovides for really hope we vote for it to stay. n't desve applause. i've simply strung together some words and sentences to represent our constituents. if you want to give applause, give it to your doctors, your nurses, your juniors. -- jior doctors. [applause] mr. speaker: thank you. thank you very much indeed for that speech. i'm so glad that we had an additional backbench speaker from the east of england as opposed to the speaker from the front bench. now, to conclude the debate, i call and ask you very enthusiastically to welcome from the east midlands, florence orchard. [applause]
>> thank you. i don't know about you, but when i first heard about this, i wasn't really sure about the issue. i know how it impacts the people. after all, what even is the cpd? 22 billion? where did that number even come from? yet over 100,000 young people enough-- felt passionate to put their hopes in a box to make it our national campaign. we simply cannot ignore it. the nhs is one of the great british achievements and we have some of the most amazing health care professionals in the world. it's clear that we all care about it and want to make it the best service that it can possibly be. however, many believe it's already underfunded. the current budget will likely overstretch the nhs.
if this happens, it will directly impact you all. from longer waiting times to potential closings of amd's -- a &e's, to the likelihood of maintaining quality services being very low. this is a brand-new and exciting campaign that we as a youth parliament could come together to work on, to fight the changes to our nhs and guarantee a positive environment for all of those who are ill. in this campaign theres e opportunity to focus on a new issue ile woing our previous work. however no one can dispute that the nhs is an extremely complicated structure and could be too much to try to combat within one year. but local authorities are becoming more independent and in the case of manchester, there is the question as to whether the should be a local campaign instead of a national one. with structus like the nhs use
rm alrea in place, should we be working with the organizations, but should they leave them to it? due to the complexity of health service it might be wiser to spend the time and painting on a different issue. furthermore, some believe that this campaign is unnecessary as it has been committed to spending 27% of its budget on the nhs. yes, this 22% will maintain the current state of the nhs, for the moment. by taking increasing population size into account, it's only a short-term solution. if we work together to show our passion for the issue on social media, we have the potential to create a stable nhs for the long-term. 's, today it falls to you. is this campaign too ambitious? or is it worth it create the amazing change? thank you. [applause] >> this u.k. youth parliament
debate will continue with members talking about lowering the voting age. leaves aers feel this key voting box out of important elections. proceedker: we will now to the second motion of the day, namely votes for 16 and 17-year-olds in all public elections. the full motion is printed on the order paper. to move the motion i call and ask you warmly to welcome from -- land, jack nor for a norfoy. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, mr. speaker. hello, my name is jack and i'm 17. i can vote in scotland and i didn't vote in may