tv Washington Journal Ali Breland Discusses Changes to Internet Privacy Rules CSPAN March 29, 2017 9:03am-9:25am EDT
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continues. ali breland of the hill to talk about the house vote esterday to repeal internet privacy rules. ali, so what exactly was the on?e voting what did the obama administration do when it comes internet. on the guest: what the house voted on roll back to broadband privacy rule under sec had passed, the f.c.c. -- hadn't gone into effect yet, resolution was blocking the rules from effect.nto had they gone into effect, they would have prevented cable profiting off certain types of data, including browsing history, things you look at when you are times you ernet, what are and aren't using the internet. this picture of your life online they would make
money off of, which other money off re making now. exactly?w does it work guest: which portion of the rule? host: what you do on the intern has been used.ta guest: let's say you are doing to buy some s, go shoes, you go to espn, look at company has an a idea you are into football, they an go and sell to third-party advertisers and make money off of that. they can do different things in assess when you are online and when you are not, they can assume when you might or out of town based off when you are using the not.rnet and this is data they have access to and can potentially sell without provisions.of host: what companies are impacted? guest: certainly, the companies warner, are time verizon, telecommunication ompanies. they are going to continue to voluntarily not sell
this kind of information. telecomissued a statement rejecting the rules last night. that might be affected, google, internet affected asy not be much, however, they may not necessarily be pleased with things.orts of host: there is no longer going to be regulation or restrictions the is data because of action taken in the house yesterday. the senate passed similar bill last week. expected to ent sign this? guest: the president is expected it.sign the white house says they support the house's move to pass the resolution, rolling back the rules. i do want to be clear, though, these reg lugzs were passed by f.c.c., hadn't gone into effect yet. changing, but tom wheelen had the rules to make ure the original status quo operationally was maintained, so he i mean when i say that,
wanted to make sure broadband ompanies continue to not monetize these sorts of things and they could in the future. legally, ay the same they have the chance for the rules to change in the future. host: what the rules said under obama administration, passed by the f.c.c. in october, equires internet service providers to obtain customer permission before using personal information for advertising using congressional review act, it would -- using the congressional review act, eliminate the rules before they effect, that is the vehicle they used on the floor. prevent sec from passing similar regulations. this is what happened on the yesterday. that vote, 215-205. it.ry republican voting for 15 other republicans voted against it, including all the it, allts voting against democrats that were present. companies like
facebook and google reacting? uest: they haven't issued reactions yet. they -- it doesn't negatively them, the argument more so has been they gained unfair sorts of d in these things in they are able to access this same kind of data sell it.umers and host: without consumer permission? true, doesn't have jurisdiction over internet companies. host: who has oversight over the companies? at tease .c. looks things and make rules and assess legality of certain things and action if the e internet companies are creating situations. people like that sunn, former counselor to former argued wheeler, congress had ability to go forward and pass rule fist they internet how companies are dealing with data. rules, of repealing the congress should create their own
set of rules to make everything onsistent for internet companies and telecom providers. host: any movement that could happen? seems to be interested in, the republicans who get the say what is happening right now. are stanchly, you know, for this kind of position, much in the senate, we gungho about this. chairman blackburn in the house this and putnam, f.c.c. chairman seems to be look like doesn't it. host: an independent, hi, dee. yes.er: hi, i want to comment that i'm lready noticing changes via my internet service, i'm noticing if we're on different systems, alerted someone else in the house is on my system and ads for their viewing, i don't like it, it is nvasion of privacy, kind of like the same thing with
healthcare, we don't want everyone in our business. we want freedom. lat-out freedom, we want protection from this kind of privacy. to our host: ali breland. guest: yeah, absolutely. like i said earlier, u.s. elecom, trade association that represents companies said that from their perspective, they to change anything and in good faith, maybe they are now there won't be any sort of provisions things these sorts of and it's a different situation now. but there's a lot of oversight and maybe things will change in future. the way republicans are now, i don't think things so freedom might not change for you. democrats.e,
caller: yeah, yesterday after i as watching the hearings on this, i e-mailed -- floorcoline, you mean the debate happening? caller: yes. host: okay, go ahead. the r: i e-mailed all congressmen in florida. protection and this information is very valuable. much ies sometimes pay as my$5 per name and when i use internet service, i contracted not nternet service, i did contract for other people to get information, which they do get. of e is not any kind protection to stop this invasion for the person. to s ago they sent somebody prison for sending e-mails in out to bend he turned
the responsible person for 90% e-mails that the ads you got in your e-mails. don't have any protection and just because you use the that et, i always believe the internet is a common carrier, just like the -- coline, let's get ali breland's reaction to what you are hearing. so i think the republican counter contention to this would internet companies as providers are able to get this data without you, in sense of losing freedom of privacy, not a lot changed there. companies in their view, position you disagree with, don't find suitable. there is legislation introduced last night to create his own set privacy bills. the ones the f.c.c. had gone forth with. that is something to look
into if you're interested in the republican counter to that. wheeler drafted the rules and writes today in the piece rk times" opinion that one result of this action last night, when you make voice smart phone, the information is protected. your phone company can't sell fact you are calling car dealerships to others who want to sell you a car. network, used to contact car dealerships through information that can be captured and sold by network. injury, you pay a monthly fee for having your information sold to the highest s. that accurate? guest: the way things will be or that is hings are, fairly accurate. i would say the counter to that again, that internet service providers are just coming to the same sort of level playing field another company,
internet company might have. google pay, have google is able to get financial nformation about you maybe telecom provider might not be able to because you have other samsung pay, ke apple pay, those things can exist, as well. makes contention and the counter contention that is it levels is true, the playing field for everyone things more fair. host: john, good morning. caller: good morning, how are you today? host: doing well, sir. caller: i continuing is interesting they want to do because of ke this the stuff going on with hillary's e-mail and russia, more about it. who says that people from other this ies can't buy information? i mean, that is kind of sneaky stuff. we should have our privacy, we're americans. host: to your point, people from
could buy -- s companies could buy this information? third it is possible if ies that hypothetically, broadband providers sell this information to a third party did exist were incorporated or based in other countries. rules would have enhanced or is also cyber security protection. exist to force telecommunication companies to data wn, protect certain and information for consumers in opposite side he would be that, you know, potentially the republican markets would e also adjudicate the issues and no one want to use provider who ion is not doing a very good job of rotecting individual security and then counter to that would
be there aren't that many to choose fromrs anyway, so people might not have much of a choice. to pick only have three from, i have been to places i only had one to pick from. aaron next in cher key, north carolina, an independent. hello. you.r: good morning to host: good morning. caller: now i've got a comment you. of all these problems we're internet, number one is if you don't want that information out there, don't put on the computer. far puter has been around past after i was born and we any problem with all this stuff. like oblem is, it is just the invention of the hammer, if it is ent the hammer and meant to be used as a tool and misusing it andd
it actually becomes a shouldn't which it be used for, then why are you doing it? thing, if you have problems with this, there is one andtion to it, reach around grab the cord plugged into the wall and pull it out, done. james, what do have you to say on this issue? morning, thank you for taking my call. my concern is that internet have access tors a lot more information than telecom companies. and none of us who use our or smart phones do so with the intention of providing of that information to third parties that we don't know about. this law is a terrible invasion of people's privacy. my call. for taking host: all right, jane. ali breland, what are you the ing for next after action in the house yesterday?
guest: certainly. senator's bill is the first thing, although it is epublicans in power that is going to make significant movement. he next thing would be to see what the f.c.c. does in regard things.e kinds of havehe f.c.c. to go in and authority to regulate different data sell policies of internet providers there is going to have to be some sort of title ii portion and neutrality and what title reclassify broadband providers as common carriers f.c.c. them under the jurisdiction and taking them out f the f.c.c. jurisdiction or there to be some regulation hange on this, somebody has to change on this, i'm curious to see where that goes, another lot of ing point a people suggested, this is
and izer for the debate compromise. lawmakers have said on both sides that this and could eithe compromiseats toward or drive them away. remains to be seen what will happen there. some sort of movement will happen, could potentially gal vannize a fight in the other direction. neutrality has been one of the iggest, most sought-after fights for the ftc. unprecedented, it is possible there could be large obilization, we'll keep our eyes on that. and then it will be interesting and e how democrats and how they will sit down with congress committee to sort of negotiate these out and get what they want from it. in fairfax, virginia,
democrat. greta and d morning, ali breland. on, to have this segment c-span is sorely lack nothing bringing the viewer's attention matters before they're already passed. should havell, this been on as soon as it was open to public comment. every viewer needs to be aware issues that come up before congress and c-span people aware of them and allow them to comment before passed.ready host: fair point, john. fair point. that point, ali breland, what has been the grassroots knowledge, motivation here, compared to lobbying for companies who benefit from this? uest: certainly there has been an attempt, this is something a
lot of people, staffers expressed concern here, lawmakers expressed concern, idn't hit grassroots the way they wanted to. that was for several reasons, reporters did do a good job of covering this, in my opinion, eople sat down, there are stories written about this, different things happening, a the white house considering a lot of different things and people's attention and aken different ways lawmakers did want to make this advocacy rassroots groups tried to make this an issue, it didn't catch steam the it to.y wanted host: does that caller and others who care have another chance here? if you care about these ssues, it is unclear if there is anything you -- there might interested, look toward net neutrality and brace fight there.coming
what you advocate for, whether you supporting position on these kind of things or wheeler's -- is former chairman wheeler would be former chairman of the sec. to follow ali's reporting go to thehill.com. thank you for your time. appreciate it. we will take a short break, and then come back and return to the top news th stories on your mind. there are the phone numbers on screen. start dialing in now, we'll be right back. > in case you missed c-span, francey hakes. to think the hardest thing i would have to do is look in the eyes of a child and being to her story about abused. i was wrong.
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