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mr. buchanan: i'm sure it there are some, like a joint chief and others, who have not written memoirs yet, but i'm not sure they are going to. in terms of written memoir, this is probably the last of someone who was right there and it knew it from the beginning. brian: what did you put in this book that you never talked about before? mr. buchanan: the origins of the agnew speech, the memos on that. there were a number of notes in my files of that i dug out. there is a description of how i almost defected on the china trip, i was so unhappy with it. there is also the end of it,
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where you put in that quote by john osborne, he said he had seen shelley and me on inauguration day in 1969 and then he saw how it all ended, he was an old liberal curmudgeon and it breaks your heart. all of this is fresh and new. most of the memorandum had never been published. what that is about is, what it was like as a young conservative in the nixon white house, trying to do battle for your beliefs, and the opposition you faced. ,rankly, how nixon operated held the whole thing together until watergate collapsed him. brian: you mentioned agnew. the des moines speech. before we go there, what role did it play?
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mr. buchanan: toward the end of his first year, the massive demonstrations with the mobilizations were being held on monument grounds and it was "time" and, "newsweek" were saying richard nixon's presidency is in danger of being woken. a liberal columnist wrote that, the breaking of a president. i wrote the president a memo saying, you have to stand up. when we have to keep those kids over there fighting and dying in vietnam. nixon gave his famous great silent majority speech in 1969, smashing triumph. 70% of the country backed him , but thatod with him night after the speech finished, the networks trashed it. most americans got their news from the world from these three
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networks and nixon was angry and had told me to write letters and telegrams. he said this was a time to take on the network directly at a high level. the way to do it is a speech by the vice president of the united states, which i would write. he came back with a memo that photo is in the book, where he has seen, go ahead. i went through three drafts, which is not a great number and , i was called over to the oval office and there sat the president with his glasses on, which he never wore, coat and tie, sitting there at the desk, editing my phrases. then he murmured, this will tear the scab off those bastards.
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and i broke out laughing and he broke out laughing. agnew went out to deliver that speech in des moines and i got word where i worked, abc was going to go live with it. and i was nervous so i went to the university club and went swimming and they called me from the pool and said, pat, nbc and cbs are going live with it. i said this is it are going to be a great success or a career-ender. the reaction was sensational. letters the whole , country stood with us in the sentiment about the networks and about television. that night, i drove out to andrews air force base at about 3:00 a.m. and got the board air
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force two. agnew invited me down to cape canaveral. he comes on the plane late and says, gangbusters. it was just a phenomenal moment. agnew's attacks on the network at des moines and the follow-up attack on the washington post and new york times in montgomery, alabama, that i think was the real making of the president. if you can believe it, at the end of that year, richard nixon was at 68% approval and 19% disapproval. astonishing. here was a fella who, seven years before, was the biggest loser in american politics. brian: let's see a little bit of that speech in des moines.
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november 13, 1969 in des moines. >> every american has a right to disagree with the president of the united states and expressed -- express publicly that disagreement, but the president of the united states has a right to disagree [applause] and the people of this country have the right to make up their own minds and form their own opinions about a presidential address. without having a president's words and thoughts are derived through the prejudices of hostile critics before they can be digested. brian: i remember that happened around dinner hour or 6:00 or 7:00 at night. mr. buchanan: around 7:30 at night. that's correct. ist agnew is talking about the fundamental point. it exists today. the president of the united
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states, in those days, a number of people had custody of how and what would be seen of the president of the united states and how it would be presented because they control all three networks. i was a 12 people would make this decision and if so, in effect, the direct communication between president and the people, they would present it as they saw fit and what excerpts they saw fit, and we almost couldn't live with this. and the president was constantly on the phone and things and calling for letters to the editors and telegrams. i said, this is nonsense. you were seen by 50 million people, the network commenting , it was seen by 50 million people and we cannot turn this around with letters to the editor.
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so we elevated that issue and it exists to this day and i think that was the first strike. brian: why did they decide to carry it live? because they would never do that in those days. mr. buchanan: we put in phrases at the end, whether what i would say is heard by the american people doesn't depend on you and doesn't depend on me. they decide what they hear and don't hear. that's exactly right. as i recall, we had a quote from frank reynolds of abc, who had written this horrible thing during the campaign of 1968, saying nixon is retaining his ability to hit his people with a meat ax. we had quotes and things like that, which were a challenge in the defiance of them and then in effect, goaded them into putting it out there. they put it on the air because they thought agnew was being trashed as an individual individual who had no
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sensitivity and did not understand the first amendment. they thought the public would say, my goodness, these nixon people want to censor the news and restrict the first amendment. but the american people loved it. it was the making of vice president agnew, who for that, in 1968 wase that, regarded the press as some think of a buffoon. brian: you write a lot about the book, what impact did it have on you when you found out he was taking cash money in envelopes? mr. buchanan: he had a press conference and there were reports and rumors he was being investigated like george bell, a friend of mine, a u.s. attorney. i went up and watched agnew make a defined statement and ron zigler seemed to undercut agnew. i said, why are we not standing by the vice president? he said, come on over.
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i went into his office, the chief of staff corner office that haldeman had and he said, we are taking in envelopes from the basement. i was shattered by this. agnew was a good friend of mine. him, weo -- i liked were buddies. he had real courage. he was just a terrific fella. he had a lot of fun. you can play tricks on the guy and he enjoyed it. i was really agonized and disappointed with that. i remember writing him a note. brian: did you ever talk to him after that? mr. buchanan: i did not talk to him about what happened and why, but in aid used to, whenever agnew came to town, he would call a number of his close friends -- bryce harlow would be
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there and the schulz from his shop, everybody would have a couple drinks and talk about the great days. he was fun to travel with. brian: there are a lot of different things you touch on. before i do that, i what to ask you that i have never heard you do. i want to talk about your brothers and sisters. you have eight of them. you mentioned a couple, henry, how many of them are still alive and what do they fit in the family and what do they do? mr. buchanan: my two oldest brothers bill died when i was , 45, my brother hank died a few years ago. i am the oldest now of nine. and my brother who served in vietnam, he has six kids, he's a dentist and living out in maryland, montgomery county.
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below him in age is my sister kathleen, who worked for bill kristol for a while and then worked in a vice presidents shop, vice president quayle, and she's got three kids now and has lost a kid. below her is my brother jack, john edward buchanan, who coaches basketball and is a business executive in kensington. brian: maryland, right out here. mr. buchanan: maryland. ay, generalis b macarthur who ran my campaign. she was high on romney and she became a mormon. she's high on romney in 2012 and when that was over, she was disillusioned and got out of politics. she is in real estate and doing well. she lives out in oakton, a little beyond tysons corner.
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then there is my brother brian who went down to bedford when he got out of medical school. he is a doctor in bedford just , down near roanoke, lynchburg, sort of up in the hills. it's got that famous role or two -- that famous world war ii memorial where all those guys from bedford come to shore on omaha beach were wiped out. then there is my brother tom, a managing partner at winston strong. he lives on gerald ford drive, near episcopal high school where john mccain went to high school. he's getting along well. that's where they are and what they are doing. but we all grew up in washington , d.c. my mother used to work as a nurse at providence hospital. born and raised in the blessed
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sacrament. buchanan family field is the name of the football field. once georgetown on the five-year plan. brian: i remember hearing you getting kicked out of georgetown. mr. buchanan: when i got aboard the plane with agnew, somebody got aboard after me and i looked over at it was the head of loyola college or university at the time and it was instant recognition. father joe had expelled me from georgetown university after an altercation with the police when i was a senior in october 1959. this was dug up by jack anderson's deputy when i was in the white house writing speeches about how these kids, we need to crack down on student disorders. brit hume calls me up and says, pat, i
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want to read you something here. you were arrested and this is what you are charged with. what do you have to say for yourself for fighting with the police? i said, well i was ahead on points until they brought out the sticks. [laughter] one of my better lines when you have no defense. brian: mom and dad, what were they like? mr. buchanan: my father was an autocrat, very autocratic. as i mentioned from the beginning and an earlier book, his three political heroes were joe mccarthy, general macarthur, and francisco franco. in spain, he was a very devout catholic. he went to gonzaga before i did. he came out of a broken family, his father had left him, the jesuits came by and got him when he graduated from holy trinity. they brought him down to gonzaga
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and he raises nine kids. sawe towns you so -- you that trump was visiting, i used to go up there after the war. my mom was one of eight kids and all four of my younger brothers fought in the vietnam operations. my cousins were telling my sister there is nothing out here except trump signs. and that's how he won the election in pennsylvania. that southwest corner of pennsylvania. the eastern part of ohio. i have been up there at the steel mill in west virginia. that's where he won the election. brian: there's a quote from richard nixon in your book that says, i have never seen an extremist like you that has a sense of humor.
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something like that. where did he say that? mr. buchanan: i challenge george h.w. bush, 10 weeks before the new hampshire primary in 1972 and my sister and i went up to challenge the president of the united states in the new hampshire primary. when i got up there, the polls showed bush at 65-70%, the cannon at 16%, and even duke at 6% in the polls. we ran a tough campaign against bush, state of their constantly, and he closed the gaps at 50 or some odd points at 15 points. 51-37 or something like that. it was a tremendous moral victory and the press played it up huge. we went to georgia and did almost as well, then we had super tuesday and there were eight areas. i got wiped out in every single
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one. so nixon was in new jersey and i lost 10 in a row. i called nixon in new jersey, and i said mr. president, 10 for 10, not bad, eh? [laughter] he says, buchanan, you are the only extremist i note with a -- the only extremist i know with a sense of humor. come on up, bring shelley and bring your secret service detail. it was a pleasant visit i had with the old man. that was two years before he died. just before he died, i called him in new jersey and said, we have not talked. he said, i'm coming down to d.c.. he would come down, washington hotel was on this -- it's over toward georgetown. brian: washington circle, right. mr. buchanan: exactly. he would come down there and he was so alert. was up, who's up, who's down.
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it was like the first time i met .im he was so interested his whole life and politics, personalities, issues. he was consumed by this. i thought of it from january 6 26 from when i met him to the organ primary, i was there for 3-5 hours a day in his office. it became ziglar and al haig. but the old man needed to have the talking constantly exploring this issue, what do you think? calling you back in, and it's a feature- my wife was with the vice president when he was vice president, when nixon was vice president, but i don't know -- i've noticed that was a characteristic of him. brian: you were sitting across the desk from him.
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you say in the book you had a three-hour interview chat with in 1966.e he hired you how old were you? mr. buchanan: i had just turned 27. brian: what was that like? mr. buchanan: it was not a hard interview for me because he was asking about issues and i was an editorial, six weeks out of journalism school. the editorial editor said, you can write editorials until we hire a replacement. i was working so hard that they kept me and move the other editorial out. we had to editorial writers at -- editorial editors at the globe democrat. so i was writing immediately on every issue local, statewide, things i was initially unaware of, for policy, domestic, everything. i was doing this for three and a
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half years and writing other pieces, as well. president nixon would ask me about various things in this three-hour meeting, i was on it. past the oral exam with flying colors. he said after the three hours, i would like to hire you for one year. here is the reason. i want you to help write the column i have to write once a month, get this mail pile down, to press work, do the other things. wait outside my office. he said one year because i am going to campaign for the republicans in 1966. if we do not get back some of these massive losses from the goldwater campaign, the nomination in 1968 is not going to be worth anything. he predicted we would win 40 seats in the house and the
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returns came in, we won 47 in the house. this was november, 1966, and we were on our way to the white house. brian: when did you see him at his angriest moment for you? and how did he react when he was angry? mr. buchanan: you know, he never yelled at me. if he got angry, he would yell generically at the wall or sort of, why can't i get some people to do these things? but again, i cannot recall him really enraged at me or maybe, i don't know why, in the book i don't have great recollections of him being enraged but i will say this. i worked for reagan and i remember reagan coming into the cabinet room and i don't know why, he looked at me and said, he exploded. he exploded when he came out of that meeting with gorbachev.
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reagan came out, waving around. -- waving around human events. reagan had a healthy temper. home, tony dolan and i were laughing and celebrating that we did not get -- presidenteich of nixon kept it inside himself and brooded. when he would call you night and he was angry at something, the voice is low, i want you to do this or that. he would let things get to him in a way that i don't think
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president reagan did. there is a certain healthy thing of an anger and getting it out of the system. that's the difference between the two. brian: during the nixon administration and watergate, they all went to prison, they testified, you testified. we have a little piece of video from your testimony. you say you had your brother sit behind you. why? mr. buchanan: i had watched all the others of their and they all andll the others up there they all had these lawyers beside them. and as soon as you have a lawyer, he's got a problem, he must have done something. i did not believe i had done anything wrong, that i did need somebody, just to be with you. so i called my brother on the day i was going to testify and i said, can you go over to watergate where i live with shelley? we will go to the white house to
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get breakfast and then go to the committee hearing room and he came up and i said, i do not need you to sit at the table with me, but i want you to sit behind me. in the book, i think i have a picture and it's got my brother behind me there and when they would take a break, he would go back in his room with me and we would come back out to the hearing, in and out. you wanted your brother there. i did not need a lawyer. brian: i'm not sure if it's your brother behind you in the videos we have, but tell us if you know who this person is. >> the president had conducted an administration for four years that won the support of millions of democrats. the president's stance the issues of defense and welfare and taxes and government and integration and busing were closer to what the american people wanted to those of the
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opponents. because of the quality and character of our candidate, if one looks back over the political history of this country, there is only one other man other than richard nixon who has been his party's nominee for president or vice president five times. that is franklin roosevelt. brian: in those days, you cannot put a camera in front of you. that's not your brother. mr. buchanan: no, that's not my brother. there's a picture in the book. he was right there. i could hear him laughing at times. brian: did you ever think in this process that you would go to prison? mr. buchanan: no, i had never hired a lawyer. i was called over by the special prosecutor. it was a vindictive, hostile crowd. they tried to get you involved in the dirty tricks operation. to be honest, sam did not understand politics.
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there were some phrases he was reading to me. one of them was ed muskie. i said, it's time to go down to the kennels and let the dogs loose. he says, can you explain this to me? i said, gary hart said if the nixon people underestimate us we will do what we did to humphrey, we will kill them. i don't think he had physical violence in mind, but the exaggerated metaphor is a staple of american politics. but it came out very well. was five and a half hours, when buchanan got back to the elp, it was like the field after lindbergh landed. it was a great day in a way because it boosted the morale of
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the whole white house staff, which was very down and the good news was, networks decided after i had testified or five hours, they are no longer carrying live testimony. brian: here you are on your way to china. i do not think you stop in hawaii yet. you are on air force one with the president and i want to ask you eventually with your trip. watch this. >> the first part, too. the more adjusting part is the evaluation, quite fascinating. mr. buchanan: that's great mr. buchanan: that's great footage. i don't recall ever seeing that. brian: what was in your mind as you are making the trip?
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mr. buchanan: i sent nixon a memo telling him i thought he was taking a real risk with this trip and then i sent a second memo that said, i think you need to take me along. i will give you cover because conservatives look to me to represent their interests. bill russert said buchanan was i was doing fine with -- i was doing fine with it until i read the communique. i think kissinger had done it. and i saw at, rose woods
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were -- roads woods and i were a appalled by it. had been with him when i was , was family tors the nixons. a great lady, loyal, courageous. every one of those crises and then some with richard nixon. on the way back from china, kissinger had gotten word. i thought the shanghai communication was a sellout of taiwan. work,low piece of concessions alternate. it almost made me ashamed. problems?at's your i said turn these over in the statement about revolution and what we want. i say the japanese, they say japan is militaristic, we don't
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the part ofwn on taiwan. we basically accept their position. it was badly written. i would like to have written it. then you went forward and came back and henry started ragging me, you and your conservative friends have not supported us in the middle east, and we had. my face about that far from his and i yelled bs, and the vernacular. i think he enjoyed -- i don't know that he agreed that he entered the encounter. encounter.njoyed the p taught the worst diplomatic disaster in american history was
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yalta, signing freedom of those 10 countries of the soviet union and it was a horror show. but her in this betrayal. i said if i've been party to something that is going to do the same thing to the people taiwan, whom we supported. i used felt ashamed and i decided to resign. told my parents when i got home, sent word to florida that i was going to come down and resign. thankfully, halderman argued against it and roads woods said don't do it. i think the president was said it isut finally .oing to go is going to go my friend, did quayle and, who
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walked out after nixon plus nomination-- nixon's , he walked out of mission bay and sent a letter to the , iran to nixon and said this guy is such a good writer we have to get him back. it,n, very cold about better that he go now than in the middle of a campaign. i think nixon had come to the conclusion that if i wanted to go that badly, maybe i should go somewhere else. brian: why did you go? mr. buchanan: i made my case to the president, to everybody in how i feel. knows
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what am i going to accomplish by walking out? i'm just going to slip out. friend of mine did, bill diamond. -- bill gavin. i think went over to work for jim buckley after that. book, this is from your henry lost it. minutes later, sally was back in my office. s"his 't take hartley.nan: sally i just got an e-mail from her. , and the cambodian speech the huge explosion that took , and sent the troops into
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cambodia for six days, 30 kilometers. long paper presented on what we had accomplished with that. of someproduced a paper , haldeman told nixon he wants you to write and. henry would hold off his material long enough so that you couldn't rewrite it. he held it off. it was given to me in the afternoon and said clemente periods i rewrote these 6000 words on that long and it was about eight in the morning -- 8:00 in the morning. sally said take it to dr. kissinger's office. that is what she came back and told me.
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loved the job i had done putting these items in bullet points, exactly how many rockets and borders -- rockets and mortars have ammunition. made it well instead of one of these the entering things and nixon said, i want all the papers done in this form after this. i thought -- i felt very good about it after reading halderman costs memoirs. brian: you've got lots of memoirs in here. patrick buchanan's revenge. he's waited to publish all his memos to say i was right back them. mr. buchanan: i was stunned by the china trip. . certain consistency
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i have held those for a long time in my files and everything. represent such threat of consistency on political strategy. the idea to put the goldwater people together with the nixon once you getty and this block, go after the and nixonatholics raised his catholic vote from 22% to 55. the southern protestants, they denounced as a southern strategy. these natural lives of ours on politics issues, and put these blocks together. it's going to split the country a bit but we're going to wind up with the larger half.
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anybody thinking in 1962 after nixon impossible last press conference, 10 years later he would win a 49 state landslide. it all came apart. rolleded the brock -- we the rock up the mountain and it rolled back on top of us. brian: when did you personally think there was a recording system and when did you first learn about the recording system in the oval office and on the phone? mr. buchanan: i don't believe i thought there was a recording system. i learned about it when alexander butterfield testified in july of 1973. he came up and testified there was a recording system in the oval office. i reflected on that and i knew the times the president had and heme late at night had had conversations or joking about various people and he was sort of letting his hair down.
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i'm a memoir saying you're going to have to keep the dean tapes of conversations with the in. , the stuff you need is a should tape. take the rest out and burn it and shut down this special prosecutor's office for this thing grows into a monster. andn had called in hague ted bizarre to entertain this idea. they said it will be obstruction of justice. addict not recommend buying subpoenaed tapes. executive privilege existed and if he got rid of them and said impeach and dammed i think you have moved right through at. president next and said in his
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memoirs -- president nixon said in his memoirs, if he had burn the tapes, he would have survived. on abc.eter jennings a little bit in may 9, 1970. >> the whiteg house. they stream through washington heading south. the demonstrators kept coming through the morning. intent was serious. the mood was peaceful and the day was hot. brian: why the buses and whose idea was it? mr. buchanan: this was the -- thea can state cambodia speech where we invaded
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cambodia. a shock to clean out communist sanctuaries from which they were attacking in south vietnam. in can state, there was a riot in kent on saturday night. monday, there was a huge demonstration and the card fired live emulation and killed four students. nixon was tremendously shaken. he had made this statement -- nixon had come out of the pentagon after day one after the speech. a woman said it was either her son or husband, i want to thank you to help my husband stay alive. nixon said there are great in people, they are terrific.
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on the other hand, these bums blowing of campus. by them bombs was taken press to mean and all those that opposed the war. d.c..owds came into nixon had a press conference .riday night he took manolo to the lincoln memorial. here comes the president of the united states at four or talk or 5:00 in the morning. nixon trying to start a conversation with them. some said he was talking for all. -- he was talking football.
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say.o of what he tried to that was the worst period. the yosemite before watergate. he was really down and broken. memos from pat moynahan. , they were some my panicked. your commander-in-chief, put -- the nixon was affected by this. haldeman says kissinger have heard the speech and complemented the president before he delivered it. toldgot a lineman there , i went told somebody
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to get a pack of cigarettes and rammed into the 82nd airborne. .aratroopers looking around about 10 years younger than me. demonstrators are lucky they did not get through those buses and try to run through the white house. they would have met some real force. brian: how many more books do you think you're right? mr. buchanan: people have asked me to write another book. i'm not sure. , as the manhis done said, i've said what i came to say. brian: give done everything he wants to? mr. buchanan: i'm feeling very fortunate being around stove. brian: you had open heart surgery at one point? mr. buchanan: right after the
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california primary in 1992. said, why ares , thisaying in the race surgery to have one was so nervous during the culture war -- a heart valve was leaking badly. it started to deteriorate. get the valve in as it makes the turn. brian: i want to show bill talking about writing. i wanted to put him in context with your brand of conservatism. a layer cake.
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the top layer is patriot. the neath that there is mild paranoia. there's very good to work with them. thoughtful and not at all abusive. hardliner.that, a brian: he was a wordsmith and wrote speeches. mr. buchanan: bill safire was --arded, when he came aboard he had been with an accident in 1960. bill was one of the people when i went to new york, he said yet to see bill safire, see sandy quan. people who are loyalists considered people he talked to and they came to know me. my read on safire, he was in new
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york liberal republican. he was a wordsmith and a writer. he was on the other side for me in the arguments. i was very close to being a solid goldwater conservative. ray price and safire were regarded as liberal republicans. bill safire was hired at the end of nixon's first turn partly due to the agnew speech because liberal newspapers were biased and overwhelming. -- decidedk times they needed a conservative. nixon wrote a note, 7:00 human
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events. we all had a great laugh. bill went on to an a pulitzer prize. on economics, bill was the one who worked on the speech were worried and price controls brian: this is that nixon plus you want in 1983. >> he was -- a very strong woman. she never did leave him turned her back on him and you and the controversial thing he was in fault.
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horses she do a personal friend of pat nixon [laughter] mrs. nixon would tell us that and i was a chain smoker then. nixon, she was strong lady. she had a good sense of humor. .he was a realist
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watergate testimony came off so well. the president said come over to .he mansion about 6:00 or so i was having a party in my office. she comes running off and she waltzes me around the room after i testified. she was reserved, but a great lady. brian: what did you think of the media coverage of her? over your lifetime, when do you recognize the media is against someone in politics? mr. buchanan: how she treated? i think it was simplistic and she just stands there behind him and does not move and maintains the same facial expression. that was not her at all.
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-- ido you discover that first went to work with nixon, early 66 -- early 1966. he would say the press is the enemy. . worked at the globe democrat a lot of the reporters and others, liberals and moderates and conservatives and things. i did not believe they were the enemy. .ixon had gotten horrible press all of us, you take ray price with the herald tribune, i think a lot of them came to believe they had it in for nixon. i did not understand, i think he was a progressive republican in domestic policy.
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conservative campaign, law and order, things like that. .e was an internationalist all of these things were not that different from kennedy, jack kennedy. in some ways, kennedy was more conservative. yet, there was a hostility to ,ixon i have never seen before until we get to trump. president trump fights differently. trump fights back daily. brian: a piece of tape i've got -- i got to show you. october 24, 1999. see if you remember this. >> tamara pat buchanan is announcing he will be a candidate for the presidency on the rope warm party. -- on the reform party. lover, he doesr
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gays.ke the blacks, the maybe he will get 5% of the vote and it will be a staunch wacko vote. i can't imagine anyone can take them seriously. brian: what do you think when you see that? mr. buchanan: i thought we could be trump for the nomination and i thought we could. we got the nomination. you find out these are terms of endearment when you look at trump. laugh.at that and i do i got a of years ago call from donna trump. very gracious. mentioned some things and said he regretted it and he was very gracious about it.
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i supported him almost 100%. was elated he came up with those positions. voted for him in the general election. i hope the president is a success. brian: who is more honest in the public life? donald trump or pat buchanan? said, howaid what you often were you not telling the truth and how often is he not telling the truth? mr. buchanan: i think trump says what he believes and tweets what he believes. brian: you believe you're a hitler follower? brian: it's what he felt that the time. probably motivated by the fact that if he had written -- had designs of the reform party nomination it might have looked that i had gotten in and he
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was not getting in. brian: he called you a wacko. mr. buchanan: i wish there was a worse thing i was called. have --oman numeral have you always told the truth? argued mr. buchanan: for a policy inside and once the president decides, you've got three choices, you go out and defend the policy, you keep your mouth shut, or you get out. i would explain policies. i traveled with nixon to the middle east 50 years ago, we went through africa, and he was a critic of the it. he defended johnson's policy everywhere he was. of theit as an attorney
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government of the united states explain the policy. he was great friends with rusk. lie,on't go out and tell a but you say. is why he thinks the china trip is good. you don't say, this is going to blow up in our face. we are given the best defense we can. wall.ot it hanging on my said, this does not sound right. i got a note from president nixon hanging on my wall, al told me you are a great dels advocate.
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it's a great job. brian: this book is called nixon's white house wars. our guest has been patrick j buchanan. mr. buchanan: thank you. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] >> if you enjoyed this week's
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