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tv   House Democrats Hold Policy Meeting on Affordable Care Act Changes  CSPAN  July 26, 2017 12:52am-2:31am EDT

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t'coin pincss, enrcthinvialante anpuinla t iurce ogm -mora pgrs for nser weeetooofowa t mora t gwtofeah care costs to ensure we have a health-care system of those who need it now, as well as those who need it. i hope we can move away from the drastic proposals that would jeopardize the financial security of millions of americans and focus on solving real problems with common sense solutions. thank you. >> we are going to recess for the moment, go upstairs and vote. i am looking at all of my colleagues. there is a requirement to come back. [laughter] >> we will resume the hearing. the doctor wanted to ask mr. cohen if you will provide your testimony. thank you to our colleagues who have come back, somewhere new additions, i'm sure we will get other folks as well. >> members of the committee,
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