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the speaker pro tempore: referred to the house calendar and ordered printed. ms. cheney: i move the house do now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the house stands >> the house gaveling out for the day after debating and passing a bill that authorizes $718 billion in defense spending. it's called the minibus package, it incorporates four of the 12 an qule appropriations bills for defense, energy and water, the legislative branch and military construction and the final vote on that, 235-192. the house back in session tomorrow, one last day of legislative business before they begin their august recess. however, house leadership has asked members to be flexible in their planning in case the senate passes a health care legislation and the house is
required to come back in. you can watch the house lye when they return tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern. we'll take you back to the briefing we were watching before the house gaveled back in. robert: they have filed charges against hundreds of members of ms-13 in el salvador. many of the members are -- of those are members of the clique who are centered in the la paz department of el salvador. earlier, members of this clique committed several high profile murders in el salvador. the shooter in those fled to the united states and is in i.c.e. custody this prosecution showcases how closely we are working with our partners in el salvador to combat ms-13. specifically, u.s. law enforcement agents with i.c.e., on the ground in el sal var do -- el salvador are coordinating
with their counterparts to ensure the shooter is remove fled united states to face charges in el salvador. this investigation is being handled by salvadoran gang prosecute crorses, trained and mentored by prosecutors in el salvador and others who are trained and mentored who are -- by the f.b.i. at the request of salvadoran prosecute dwhrorks justice department arranged to have an essential witness to the murders transported to el salvador for court proceedings. u.s. law enforcement recently targeted leaders and members of the same clique operating here in maryland. charging 16 defendants with racketeering offenses involving murder and attempted murder. the last of whom was sentenced this yore to life in prison -- to life imprisonment. these are significant blows to ms-13 and are made possible by our close cross border coordination. we've also revitalized the institutional hearing program which brings imgrigs judges to
bureau prison facilities to adjudicate the immigration status of federal criminal ail general inmates while they're incarcerated. this results in much quicker deportation after the criminals serve out their prison sentences here in the united states. finally, we are also holding sanctuary cities accountable for their lawless conduct. the attorney general will not allow sanctuary cities to become sanctuaries for criminals. earlier this week, the attorney general announced new grant conditions. cities and states may only receive byrne-jag grants if they comply with federal law, allow federal immigration officials access to facilities and provide 48 hours notice before they release an illegal alien wanted by federal authorities. taking on ms-13 is a top priority of the administration and this justice department. we will not tire and will not fail. i'm humbled to once again be in a position to work to reduce and ultimately desecrate this -- decimate this gang to make our
community safe for all americans. thank you. tom: today amp, i'm the acting director of u.s. customs and immigration enforcement, known as i.c.e. targeting and removing members of the gangs like ms-13 sends a clear message to enterprises around the world, you are not welcome to the united states and you will find no harbor here. president trump made it a priority to get these criminals off our streets and out of our country and that's what the men and women of i.c.e. are going to do every single day to help keep america safe. i.c.e.'s homeland security investigation, known as h.s.i. national gang unit, leads our efforts along with our deportation officers to identify and arrest fwang members while working to dismantle the organizational structure that
supports them. gang members are involved in a broad range of criminal activities, including murder, narcotics traffic, weapons trafficking, human smuggling and other crime with a nexus to border security. since the beginning of january this year, i.c.e.'s homeland security investigation has arrested 3,311 gang members across the country in a number of targeted operations. i'll speak just about two. project new dawn a recent gang search led by i.c.e. led to 1,37 gang arrests. operation matador up in new york state, since may 9, has netted over 100 gang members and fi a23il8 -- affiliate, vast majority ms-13 members. make no mistake, organized violent gangs threaten our communities not just in major metropolitan areas but in suburbs like suffolk county, new york, where i'll be joining the president tomorrow to discuss
this issue. let me share just a couple of examples that demonstrate the violence of these criminals. recently, two ms-13 members who were juveniles arrested as part of operation matador have been implicated in a quadruple homicide of four young adults in new york. an additional ms-13 arrest admitted to be complicit in homicide to two juvenile females. multiple other matador ms-13 arrests have led to arrests on narcotics trafficking, weapons smuggling and intelligence on other unsoevered crimes in the region. the proliferation of ms-13 remains an on gink challenge to awe law enforcement everywhere. our work is more effective then our partnership with local law enforcement is strongest. our operations are more effective when there are strong local partnerships supporting them. sanctuary city policies only make it more difficult, if not
impossible, for i.c.e. to remove gang mebs and other known criminal ail generals from the country. as i said when i was here months ago, cooperation is critical. it is often state and local law enforcement, not i.c.e., that first come into contact with transnational gang members. together, through partnership, we can keep our streets safe. together, our gang is bigger than theirs. in addition to making our community safer, the intelligence gathered from operations targeting ms-13 help ours agents and investigators continue their efforts to fully december mantle these global criminal enterprises from the command struck you are from -- structure in el salvador to those in our communs an everybody in between. the progress we make would not be possible without the brave and dedicated men and women of i.c.e. these are professionals. american patriots. who leave the safety of their
homes and families every day to help keep us safe. to keep people safe they'll never meet. and i am honored and proud to represent them here today. ith that, i'll ta -- i'll take questions. reporter: there's been ms-13 activity, when they prosecuted there they have said members of ms-13 some of them are citizens. and to get help from the immigrant community where they are being -- where they're plaguing if the plague is on the immigrant community that they have not been successful because they're afraid of being taken out of the country, that you're going to deport them. for those in the immigrant community who are being taken advantage of, do you guys are you going to offer any type of support for those who are not involved in ms-13 who come forward to assist law enforcement? local law enforcement said that's the biggest problem they've had.
m: the missed message that i.c.e. is doing neighborhood raids and things we were being accuses of doing. i.c.e. prioritizes based on criminal threats, national security, those who violate immigration laws. however if they're a victim or witnesses, we're not looking for victims or witnesses. i believe, especially ms-13, they victim those where they live. if the immigrant community is being victimized they don't want them in the community. they should be safe to go to law enforcement, report the cyle. we don't target victims of crime. as a matter of fact there's benefits to victims of crimes through the immigration process. so they should feel safe to go and report criminal activity and we'll -- we're going to target the most violent criminals, not the witness, not the victims, remove them. we need your help. we need the community's help. most importantly we need local law enforcement's help, especially county jails that will have an ms-13 book in that in a ut they're located
sanctuary city, they'll be released back to the streets. >> point-blank, you're not going to take advantage of the immigrant communities who are victims, right? tom: we're -- >> they're not going to be deported. tom: we need the immigrant community to assist us in identifying the most -- the individuals in ms-13. if there's a victim of crime and they come forward, we're not looking to arrest the victim of crime. we're looking to arrest the bad guy. right? let me make this clear. my saying there's a population of illegal aliens off the table, i'm not saying that. but victims of crime have certain protections and need to take full advantage of the protections. reporter: do you have a count for how many people are actually in ms-13 across the country? and what has the reaction been from sanctuary cities to the new
policies announced earlier this week by the attorney general? and if you could speak broadly about -- obviously the president has been critical of the attorney general. has that in any way impacted your job? tom. i can tell you that thousands of ms-13 members are in the country that number changes every day depending on who we deport and who neeks? -- sneaks. in. as far as sanctuary cities, i don't know how they feel about recent legislation. but i'll say again, sanctuary cities are criminals' biggest friend. if you're an alien smuggler, smuggling people into the country for a live, that's one sales pitch, get you to a sanctuary city where that city will help shield you from immigration. i said it, i heard -- every time i speak i say sanctuary cities need to help us keep the city safe. sanctuary cities not engage
public safe by but they endanger my officers because when we can't get a violent criminal alien out of jail, it means one of our officers has to go knock on a door which is one of the most dangerous thing to do. so rather than arresting the violent criminal in the safety of jail, we have to go knock on the door. our officers are put at risk, the public is put at risk, the suspect is put at risk. we have lost many at the hnds of violent criminal gangs. we've got to join forces with the cities. they have to work with us to keep their communities safe. reporter: the fact that the president criticized the attorney general recently, has that affected your ability to do our job? tom: i.c.e. will continue to do our job.
the attorney general is a strong supporter of doing our job. nothing is going to change the way we do business. we follow the law. reporter: the administration also prioritized criminal what is different about your approach as opposed to the previous administration's approach? tom: the prior administration -- the difference is that for those criminal aliens get booked in a county jail. under the prior administration they needed a conviction before we can put them in our custody. that's not necessary anymore. if you been arrested for a serious crime and you're in a county jail, we're going to take the person into custody. >> what does that mean? >> we're asking will call jurisdictions to hang on to them until we get there to take custody of them.
>> has that proven effective? tom: yes. i think we got more jurisdictions coming to the table now. the story is, sanctuary cities here and there but more jurisdictions, more law enforcement is coming to the table now. we've doubled agreements under this administration. i expect to trip they will agreements by the obed the year. most law enforcement agrees with me. they want to work with us and identify the threats to the communities. these people -- local law enforcement is teaming up with us. all these jurisdictions want to get the criminal element out of their neighborhood. the imgrant communities themselves don't want these people in their communities. we should all be on the same page here. again, new york city. one of those places where, you know, we can't get records and put our hands on people who are here illegal. gang members walk out of county jails every day across this country. that's what needs to change.
reporter: how are gang members being identified for i.c.e. enforcement? is it just through local law enforcement? are the databases -- how do you know how to find these gang members? tom: local law enforcement, they're usually the one that -- ones that, they have the most intelligence on gang members. as far as what we look for to find fwang members, i'd rather not discuss that because i don't want to share the information with gang members who may be watching. they'll say we'll just do this a little different. there's a myriad of factors. we don't arrest people on how they look. i've seen media accounts of people with tattoos and clothing. that's one of many, many things we look at. it's a matter of how we identify, target and locate gang member. the moves i.c.e. are well trained, they do this for a living. they're professionals, look at a lot of factors. i'd rather not share the factors
we consider, i'd rather not share that with you. -- or with the criminal element who may be watching this program. reporter: you said victims of crimes who are imgrants would not be targeted. in february your agency detained a woman in el paso, texas, who was seeking a protective order against a domestic abuser. can you say now that your agency will not be doing that again? and if it's been tone in the past, why -- why should we believe that it won't be done in the future? tom: that case you're talking about, you don't know all the facts that i do. that's not the way -- there's much more to that story than you're presenting here today. i can tell you that was a solid arrest. it's under litigation, i can't give you the -- all the information i have. it's a good arrest, that was a public safety arrest, i can't say anymore because it's in litigation. reporter: the president will focus on the most violent gang,
ms-13, suggesting that's what i.c.e. is focused on. i'm reading a story from last number, that says the biggest numbers that i.c.e. arrests are up and the biggest spike is for noncriminals. i think the other side of the issue would say that i.c.e. and this administration really is going after noncriminals and using these moments to suggest otherwise. what do you say about that? tom: it's ridiculous. when -- under prior administration, noncriminals were not a priority. so when you go from zero to 100, you'll see the biggest rise in that. the executive order, no population is off the table. so noncriminals, yeah, those who get a court order from the judge who refused to leave, we're looking for them. those who entered the country illegally, it's a crime to enter the country illegally. when they get their due process at great taxpayer expense, money is spent on immigration court, detention. when they get due process and
the federal judge orders them removed, that order needs to mean something or the whole system has no integrity. nowhere else in law enforcement has anybody asked law enforcement agency to ignore a judge's order from a bench. they've had due process, our job is to enforce the orders. for people who say that we concentrate too much on those who are not criminals beyond committing the crime of entering the country illegally, they should no -- they have not committed another crime, you should ignore them, let them go. that drives what happens in san antonio. that message drives what happened in victoria, texas that i investigated back in 2003. if we send the message that if you get into the country, you get by the border patrol and don't get arrested by la call law enforcement and no one is looking for you, that's a magnet. it's a pull factor. we've got to stop that messaging. we've got say it's not ok to violate laws of the country. you can't have it both ways. until we get that message clear, that there is no safe haven
here, and if you're in sanctuary cities, that's where we'll send additional resources to look for you, we're going to enforce the law. we've got to stop sending the message that people who dent commit yet another crime should be forgotten. reporter: the previous question you said you need the help of communities, president trump the other day called in a speech in ohio twice referred to criminal gang members as animals. i think there's some who would say that's sort of an attempt, another attempt to paint a broader swath of immigrants as criminal and violent. he wasn't that specific about who he was talking about. i'm wondering if you think that rhetoric is appropriate or whether that could potentially set back some of your efforts in trying to convince community members to work with your department. tom: as a career law enforcement officer, i can tell you criminal
aliens are a threat not only to peculiar safety but national security. we have to enforce the laws. the men and women of i.c.e. are doing it in a professional manner. i shared with you last time i was here why it's so important to let those in central america and mexico, let those who want to come to the united states, to find themselves in a sanctuary city, why it's so important that -- to send the message that they should not make that dangerous trek. these are criminal organizations that transport these people into the country. the same organizations, same pathways that struggle drugs, smuggle weapons, smuggle people that want to do harm to this country. and by continuing to ignore that segment of the illegal population, we are bankrolling these criminal organizations. as i said earlier, sanctuary cities, that's a smuggle ears best friend. that's their advertisement, we'll get you to a sanctuary city. what i've seen in my career, i've seen people that were killed for not paying their smuggling fee. i've seen -- we've talked to
women that have been raped, children molested, people have been killed. i shared in a meeting yesterday in phoenix, arizona, in the hostage crisis, people couldn't pay their fees. fees would double when they get here. we rescued one man who was duck taped from head to toe. his whole face and head were duck taped. had a hole poked in the mouth so he could breathe through a straw. in victoria, i worked on a case with a tractor trailer, immigrants and that 5-year-old. what do you think that 5-year-old went through the last of his life? or his dad's last 30 minutes not able to help his child? >> so are you calling the animals? tom: there are millions who enter this country the right way. there's a legal way and illegal way. we've got to be pushing the
legal message out and stop sending this message that if you don't commit yet another crime beyond the crime you committed when you came to this country, that it's ok to be here. it's not ok to be here illegally. it's not ok to violate the laws of the country. we're going to enforce laws. with everything you're read, all these horrific events, that's why we need the 10,000 officers that president trump promised so we can go after the gangs even harder and the criminal alien population. we need the border wall. it's one more tool in the toolbox that might prevent some things from happening. that's why president trump is asking us to do, he's proposing for border security makes sense to the law enforcement community. not just i.c.e. but the 20,000 men and women who work at i.c.e., those who wear uniforms every day, we need this help. we need this to make sense of hat we do every day.
sarah: thank you, tom. rob. just like the dedicated men and women of i.c.e. and d.o.j. who are unquestionably producing results every day in these fights against crishes cartels, senate republicans now have an opportunity this evening to deliver on one of our biggest promises to the american people. on the hill the senate is gearing up for a series of votes on the republican plan to finally repeal and replace obamacare and replace it with the freedom health care bill. congressional republicans have been telling the american people that given the chance, they would save them from this increasing damage of this disastrous law. after seven years of skyrocketing premiums and dwinleding health care option, now is their chance to act. the president looks forward to seing the senate fulfill that promise later tonight when they repeal obamacare and end the nightmare that it's caused for american families and businesses. i hate to start the q&a off on a
low note but i want to get ahead of some of the personnel related questions and just let you guys know ahead of time that no, i cannot confirm whether or not sean spicer will be on "dancing with the stars" upon leaving the white house. and with that, i will take your questions. jonathan. reporter: does the president have confidence in his chief of staff? sarah: i think i've addressed this question. when it comes to staffing and personnel many times. if the president doesn't then he'll make that decision. we all serve at the pleasure of the president and if he fwets to a place where that isn't the case he'll let you know. reporter: you can't say if he as full confidence in reince priebus. sarah: this is a white house with a lot of different perspectives because the president hires the very best people. they're not always going to agree. there are going to a lot of different ideas. unlike previous administrations
this isn't groupthink. we all come and have a chance to voice those ideas, vose their perspectives and -- voice those perspectives and have a lot of healthy competition. with that comp tillings you get the best results. the president likes that type of competition and encourages it. the people that are here are here because they love the president, they love this country and they want to see the best things happen and sometimes your going to have different ideas come to the table. that's all i'm talking about. reporter: public hue mailuation of the attorney general and the chief of staff, must kind of wonder about their own faith and status. sarah: i don't know that the president has spoken about that particularly on attorney general sessions. he's been clear he was disappointed with his decision to recuse himself but at the same time as i've said, look, attorney general sessions knows better than anybody that the president and his campaign had nothing to do with russia and
his decision to recuse himself was disappointing to the president. at the same time, the president wants him to do his job, do it properly, wants him to be tough on the intelligence leaks and he wants him to move forward. reporter: lindsey graham says here'll be holy hell to pay if attorney general sessions is fired. does he have any comment? sarah: i have not asked him about that. eporter: we're told the policy on transgender in the military hasn't been changed, they have to issue an order to do so. sarah: as i said yesterday the white house will work with the department of defense and all the relevant parties to make sure that we fully implement this policy moving forward. and do so in a lawful manner. reporter: what is the policy? was the president aware he can't
make policy changes via twitter? sarah: i think he was making the announcement of the policy change. reporter: the policy hasn't been formulated? sarah: they'll have to work out details on how to move forward to lawfully make that policy change from this point. reporter: moving on to health care. you talked about how senate republicans have the chance tonight to really undo obamacare but it seem like the thing that's most likely to get through is the skinny repeal and that would just kind of tissue it would maybe get rid of the mandate, some other things, but it's not the massive overhaul that had been promised. so would the white house support just a skinny repeal being signed into law? sarah: we support progress moving forward. that's what we're seeing taking place in the senate right now. and i think that that's -- the place where we've been since we
started this is we're looking for moving the ball forward down the field, repealing or replacing it with a better health care system. this is one step within that process. >> does the white house believe a skinny repeal on -- repeal on its own would be enough to address the issues of premiums, rising premiums and deductibles and things like that? would the president sign just a skinny repeal? sarah: we've got to see what they get to tonight. we haven't seen a final piece of legislation. we're continuing to work with the senate to make sure we get the best health care we can. reporter: i want to ask two questions, one about the president's management style and one on immigration. is the president aware that on days like yesterday when you have a big announcement to roll out, his seemingly impulsive decisions to make an announcement on transgender troops stepped on his own message. is he aware of that die nam exand is he interested in changing it? sarah: i think the president is aware he can walk and chew gum
at the same time. this is a white house that takes on a lot of different things every day, not just one, and we're going to continue to do that moving forward. reporter: on immigration, i have a question on immigration enforcement. when the president spoke in ohio, he spoke about ms-13 and gave a litany of the violence they're capable of and then he said, our guys are rougher than their guys. what did the president mean by that? sarah. i think the president means that our guys are going to do whatever it takes to protect americans, protect american lives, protect our borders. reporter: is that a license for the use of more force when it comes to making arrests? sarah: the president wants people to do their job. not go beyond the scope of what they should do. but he wants to protect our country and wants to protect the american people. and he's asked the law enforcement agencies to step up and help be part of that process. as i think we would all expect for them too. >> does he want law enforcement agencies to change the rules
about the use of force? sarah: i'm not aware of specific changes. reporter: talking about reince priebus, he said, if he wants to prove he's not a leaker, let him prove it. does he think that priebus is a leak ore does the white house think that? sarah: i'm not going to comment on anthony's suggestion, i'll let him answer for himself. i think i've made clear the -- where the president is. reporter: does the president believe the tax overhaul should increase the budget deaf sis -- deficit or be revenue neutral? sarah: we're continuing to make announcements on the tax reform plan. we're making a hot of -- a lot of progress on this front as we get closer to lining out the final details, we'll certainly be putting those out in front of all of you. the big pieces are
simplification, and helping take off -- relief for the middle class. those are big places we're focused. we'll continue to do that. the border adjustment tax was taken off the table. that's another big step forward in the process. reporter: can i ask about anthony scaramucci. has he taken an oath of office. sarah: not that i'm aware of. rerter: is his security clearance gone through? sarah: we don't discuss security clearance. reporter: is he a member of the staff? sarah: he is working with the white house. weaver going to one question thursday we're tight on time. the president has got to open -- >> let me ask about the boy scouts. >> i'm going to john, sorry, peter. reporter: i have to ask you about the health care bill. many who are in the freedom caucus say that they would
oppose the skinny repeal that was referred to earlier that if a measure came out with just -- ending the mandates and ending the tax on medical devices, that that would -- and not addressing anything else, they would vote against it. is the president aware of this? is he making any calls for specific parts to the repeal effort? sarah: the administration has been working hand in hand on pushing repeal and replace of obamacare. we actually like the term freedom bill better. we think it addresses what this bill. is it removes a lot of those mandates that allow people to have the type of freedom that they want. and that was one of the big priorities for this administration. we're happy about that progress. we're going to wait and see where this bill ends up later this evening. reporter: just to follow up on what he just asked you is the
president picking up the phone, is he calling the seven or eight republican senators, making the case to them that this may be their last, best hope for repealing and replacing obamacare? and if he is, what's his message to those senators? sarah: the same one he's been making all along, let's get the job done, let's replace a terrible health care system with a better one. he's going to be engaged, i'll keep you posted on any specifics and people he talks to. >> all the republican senators here at the white house last week -- sarah: we're tight on time. i'm going to keep you to one question. be polite to your colleagues. reporter: there was rumor that the president might veto the russian sanctions bill even as senator corker has withdrawn an objection to the same version from the house that will be up for the senate vote. is that possible? would he veto a bill that passed with just three negative votes
in the house and two in the senate? sarah: as i said yesterday, the president and administration supports sanctions against russia, iran and north korea, continue to support strong sanctions against those countries. we'll wait and see what the final legislation looks like and make a decision at that point. as soon as we have a final piece of legislation we'll let you know. reporte: working with the d.o.d. on the new policy, when will you find out the details? sarah: i don't have a specific timeline. we'll keep you posted a as -- posted as the details come out. i don't have a specific timeline on what that looks like. they're ready to start moving and work on that implementation. reporter: several republicans have sent signals to this white house, one, don't make a recess appointment, we're not going to allow it. two, there's not going to be a confirmation hearing if there's a new attorney general nominated. there's a signal being sent, don't do what we fear you might
be contemplating. for you, for the betterment of the senators working on this, could you put to rest the status of the attorney general, that he's not going to be fire department, there won't need to be a recess appointment. the republicans appear to be anxious about this prospect. sarah: i'm not sure how many times you have to lay an issue to rest, i've tried many times. >> but when you don't say the president is confident and the president says time will tell as he said earlier this week, i'm only telling you what senator republicans who are in a position to deal with. sarah: i have answered your question, and yesterday you probably saw a statement come out from here that that was more fake news from "the washington post" on the fact that we are considering a recess appointment. i think that sums that up pretty clearly. reporter: this is a little, maybe just a little bit off topic but i want to run it by you anyway. is the president aware of the
story -- sarah: good to mix it up a little bit. >> is the president aware of the story of the i.t. staff, congressional i.t. staffer who most recently worked for florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, who was recently arrested trying to leave the country, though he said he wasn't trying to flee the country. is the president aware of that particular circumstance and is he satisfied with the pace of the investigation? sarah: i haven't had a conversation with him specifically about that but i do think it is something we should fully look into. and there should be a thorough investigation. report er: since we only have one question, i want to ask about this. he wrote this to family members. i want to extend my sincere apologies to the family who were -- scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted in the jamboree. we sincerely regret a politics
were inserted. does the president owe the boy scouts an apology? sarah: i saw nothing but roughly 40,000 to 45,000 boy scouts cheering the president on throughout his remarks. and i think they were pretty excited that he was there. and happy to hear him speak to them. reporter: the boy scouts acknowledge there's a problem, parents felt the need to write a letter about. does the president owe them an apology? sarah: i was at that event and heard nothing but a lot of cheering and probably one of the most energetic crowds i've seen in front of the president. so i don't have anything to add. i haven't seen the statement from the boy scouts so i can't comment any further than what i saw firsthand and that was a lot of individuals, roughly 40,000 reported, cheering
the president on. reporter: two for you. sarah: one, there's a rule. reporter: anthony scaramucci said he had a conversation about attorney general session about the leaks, that appears to violate the d.o.d. guidelines. secondly, out of alaska today, local paper there is reporting that senator mcclasskey received a phone call from the secretary of interior threatening the federal dollars spent toward the people of alaska on if she voted a certain way on the health care bill. can you confirm that and whether that conversation -- sarah. i'll answer both of your questions with one answer, to keep it intha fair. i'm not going to speak about conferrings between cabinet members and other individuals i wasn't a part of and haven't had a chance to talk to either individual about. reporter: you suggestion jest the president continues to have priebus, in reince
and anthony scaramucci, but based on what we've seen playing out publicly, does he think they need to get whatever this is out of their system and start off on the right foot? sarah: i don't have if -- i don't know if he has an opinion on what they should do the president enjoys healthy competition and conversation. the sees that as such. i have to wrap up here, because the president is getting ready to do an event which i know you all want to attend. one last thing before i close out on an important development. you guys love to talk about russia, there's been nonstop coverage, and the one day there might have been a question on russia there wasn't. often we have a lot of media with russia first and tissue but today there was public testimony that further discredited the phony dossier that's been the
source of so much of the fake news and conspiracy theories and we learned that the firm that produced it was also being paid by the russians. this is yet the latest piece of evidence that vindicates what the president has said, that this is a witch hunt and a hoax. it's a shame that the president and the country have had to go through this charade continually and hopefully this will help us move forward in that process. with that, thank you guys so much. we'll see you tomorrow. >> what's the definition of healthy competition? are they going for that same job? >> "the new york times" reporting that with new sanctions, the senate has forced the president's hand on russia, passing sweeping sanctions and forcing president trump to decide whether to accept a tougher line against russia or issue a veto that could hurt him politically. as investigations continue into ties between his presidential campaign and russian officials,
the senate passed the sanctions by a veto-proof number, 98-2. earlier this week, the house voted to punish russia as well as iran an north korea and sharply limited the president's ability to lift sanctions. the administration argued it needs flexibility in diplomacy with russia. you can read more at "the new york times" online. the senate in for what's expected to be a late night tonight. a look here at the senate floor. senator lankford of oklahoma speaking about health care and the health care law. debating the legislation and possibly voting on a skinny repeal which would take away small portions of the current health care law but keep much of it in place. democratic leader in the house says they could even see a bill come over from the senate for a vote as early as tomorrow. we heard from g.o.p. senators earlier today on where the health care legislation stands. take a look at their remarks now.
mr. graham: he's back. so the third amigo. here's the state of play. all three of us support the idea of continuing the process to get a good outcome for the american people when it comes to replacing obamacare. to find a product that's better for the american people. i have a bunch of ideas. everybody has ideas. we've been asked by our leadership for days now to vote on the least common denominator, the skinny bill, because the pitch is if you vote for this skinny bill, then we can go to conference and we can get my bill scored, we can get ted cruz's bill scored, we can get other people's bills scored that has promise of maybe bringing us together. but they're not scored yet. that makes imminent sense to me with one condition. we actually go to conference. there's the increasing concern
on my part and others that what the house will do is take whatever we pass, the so-called skinny bill, not take it to conference, go directly to the house floor, vote on it, and that goes to the president's desk with the argument, this is better than doing nothing. here's my response. the skinny bill as policy is a disaster. the skinny bill as a replacement for obamacare is a fraud. the skinny bill is a vehicle to getting conference to find a replacement. it is not a replacement in and of itself. the policy is terrible because you eliminate the individual employer mandate, which we all want eliminated but we actually have an overall solution to the problem of obamacare, so you're going to have increased premiums and most of obamacare stays in place. if the skinny bill becomes law. not only do we not replace obamacare, we politically own the collapse of health care. i'd rather get out of the way and let it collapse than have