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the only conservative he admired. anouncer: sunday night at 8:00 "q&a." on c-span's -span, where history unfolds daily. as a79, c-span was created public service by america's cable television companies and your t to you today by cable or satellite provider. >> now, former presidents bill clinton and george w. bush the importance of leadership and working to build better communities. this is just under an hour. . pplause]
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>> pretty strong. tough to follow that act. like to start by acknowledging the presence of mrs. bush. thank you very much for being here. . pplause] pres. bush: actually, i was that. ed to do >> i was going to ask about your parents. how are they doing? res. bush: i hate these tough questions. thank you for asking. i old tuncer dibirdik that was going to be on stage with bill and that you were the moderator. >> what did he say? surprised. he was [laughter] >> okay. surprised couldn't do anybody better? pres. bush: they're doing well. thank you very much. i'm really fortunate to be the
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only president with both parents alive after the presidency. a blessing day is to have your mom and dad alive, and they're doing well, 93 and thank you for nd asking. i'll tell him you asked. okay. how is hillary doing? pres. clinton: good. you knew our grandkids, you'd know she's good. he's doing really well, been working on her book, and we spent every available hour with grandchildren and my grandson turned a year old on father's day. host: wow. which means every seven years, his father will celebrate father's day on his birthday which is kind of nice and my almost 3-year-old randdaughter sang happy birthday to him at his party. can your : granddaughter sing "happy birthday" in mandarin? pres. clinton: no. she can sing it in spanish.
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[laughter]. you both have : grandchildren. what do they call you? you called? jeffe. sh: i'm called pres. clinton: i'm more humble. pop-pop. you're the one that told me once you become a president, you're immediately at the bottom of the totem pole. least important person in the family. so we qualify. about your ked presidencies, but you're now both former presidents. what's the difference between being a former president and a president. one day, you have the nuclear codes. you can send nuclear bombs off, everybody is working for you, day, you leave office, you have no power. what was the transition like? [laughter] pres. clinton: nobody plays a in a room ou walk anymore.
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[laughter] pres. clinton: i was lost the after i left eks office. i kept waiting for the music, ou know. [laughter] actually, it's wonderful. 17 years, have i given a thought to, i wish i this, or e, i could do i miss this. i think you have to be grateful for the time you have and focus on u should and i nd the future, hink it's both liberating and, also, it concentrates the memory. you don't know how many years ou've got left, but you feel that the country has given you something priceless, and you owe something back. and so each in our own way, we've tried to figure that out. i've found it a really rewarding part of my life. it. loved pres. bush: well, so i woke up
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in crawford. [laughter] pres. bush: the day after the presidency expecting someone to coffee. he [laughter] pres. bush: laura didn't bring the coffee. [laughter] pres. bush: i think the thing startled me was the sense responsibility. in other words, during the presidency, you kind of become to the responsibility you have. first, it's pretty gray, and surely, it but becomes a natural part of your life and the next day you wake no nd you have responsibility. that was probably the most stunning thing for me. president you're both nd you have somebody on the opposite party telling you it's idea. when you're a former president, o you find it's easier to get things done? pres. bush: yes. depending on what you're trying
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to do. pres. clinton: i think it first of all, you have to realize what you don't what you do. it's really true that i loved loved all the responsibilities. it's amazing how much of every day is taken up by the things ou have to do as president and by the incoming fire. and, you know, when he was, for example, running, i watched all of his debates with al gore very said, what d nobody are you guys going to do if up the world trade center? and you see this in a lot of ways. nt if you don't deal with the incoming fire, it will undermine ability to do anything else. if all you deal with is incoming you can't keep the promises you made when you were running, so it's a lot of trouble. get out, you hange all that power, but that clutter, for whatever influence
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whatever experience and contacts will influence you to do and you have to decide makes do and everybody different decisions. president carter, i think, we should all be thinking about collapsed today, but he's fine. he was building habitat houses in canada. it's what he decided he wanted to do. it, he helped habitat going into one of the in the world.ions we all have to make these decisions. res. bush: i don't think it's that easy, frankly, to get things done, necessarily. or example, one of the great accomplishments of my post presidency was the building of this building and the installation of programs that we difference, but it was hard work to get there. not an appropriations bill. [laughte [laughter] so it's not easy former day, when presidents get together, which
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happens at funerals unfortunately and when libraries it's not common you get together. what is the like in the back room? what do you actually say each presidents areer getting together. do you actually tell secrets you never tell anybody else? generally, yeah, when is this program going to start and when is it going to end? [laughter] pres. clinton: he'll say to me, give shorter answers. [laughter] pres. clinton: it's unusual with us, because we had -- because when i left - office, i told him, i said, you help you, i n ever will do it. conscience, igood won't, but i will never embarrass you in public. senator. a i said i may have to disagree
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with something on policy but i respect you and i want you to succeed and i tried word and he as my gave me one of the great gifts to work e, the chance with his father after the tsunami in south asia and after katrina and we had a heck of a it, did a lot of good, and that all three of us closer. for let's talk about that a moment. you ran against president bush 41. campaign. ter he was defeated for re-election. manage later to develop a close relationship. difficult at times? you had called each other names. how did it come together? pres. clinton: i think it helped we'd had some contact before. you know, i represented the governors when he decided to embrace these goals and he tion asked the governs to help write them, and we started working together. and then i tried never to take a
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heap shot in the governor's association. if we disagreed, we said it, we on, and we found things could do together. and i think the other thing is, like i said, he deserves a lot because if he hadn't asked us to do the tsunami work together, i'm not sure the would have ever flowered the way it did. being just liked together. you know, you just -- it's like anything else. sometimes you click with people, and sometimes you don't. i always admired him. i completely supported what he id in the aftermath of the collapse of the soviet union, supporting german reunification, supporting the european union, the efforts he made and i made with, as you see today, mixed results, to try to integrate russia into the family everything. and and so we just started working tsunami thing. it's easy to forget now because
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it was a long time ago but, i they lost 300,000 people in a matter of minutes in countries, and then president bush said america's got to do our part. people couldn't find those little countries on the map, but they were a part of the global he was willing to take our fair share of responsibility for. host: that was your relationship with president bush 41. how did you -- got a different take on that. [laughter] > one of the most unique relationships and important relationship in u.s. political history. i think it starts with bill linton being a person who refused to lord his victory over dad. he was humble in victory, which important in dealing with other people, and i think dad above the to rise political contests. in other words, it starts with he individual's character, and both men in my judgment
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displayed a strong character therefore, their friendship was able to be formed. why do i have a friendship with him? because he's called a brother with a different mother. [laughter] host: when you campaigned -- he hangs out in maine more than i do. host: when you campaigned, you ing against some of the things the clinton administration done in 2000. probably. yeah, [laughter] res. bush: we're both baby boomers and southern governors. a lot in common. he got along with his i got along with mine, we had friends in common so there was a natural ability like each other. if you disagree with someone, it you don't like them. pres. clinton: also, you know, i ecognized that he was 44 days old are than me.
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o for 44 days -- we're in the middle of this 44-day period, by the way. i called him on his birthday and calling you on bended knee because this begins my 44 for my elders. [laughter] i was ush: when president, i would call bill, helpful. you know, it was -- he knew a lot about a variety of issues, particularly international interested i was in. i knew i could count on him for advice, and he was gracious my calls. g host: president clinton, you've done zg very unique. recognized that there's somebody who's a student body president, class president they could y thinks be the president of the united states. nobody has made it except you. you were the only person who was a student leader from the beginning and who actually made of the united states. what was the factor that drove you from being such a leader
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to college to l graduate school? most people burn out and say i don't want to still be a leader. managed to pull this off. what do you think the qualities were that were instilled by your mother? i also lost two elections along the way, which humble. eps you first of all, i think all that overrated. i think because -- basically, we were the last generation that a television. i was 10 years old before we got a television. conversational actually ere people talked and listened to each other. and i don't know how these people make it today. you've got the average president talks eight seconds on is 10 ion, snapchat seconds. twitter is 140 characters. i mean, we -- my life revolved meals, and i had -- my father died in a car wreck
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so i spent a orn lot of time with my grandparents and their generation and my great uncle was the smartest guy family, and he presided he conversations, and involved the kids in them. and he taught me that everybody story and most people can't tell it, and that's sad. nd when people are inherently interesting, if they can get out of their own way. i was taught to listen and to i really think that's what it is. i cared about -- i always thought i would have a better i could help somebody else have a better life too, and i liked it. got lucky, i don't care what anybody says. all these people will tell you they were born in a log cabin full uilt themselves are of bull. [laughter] host: i often think i was partially responsible for your elected president because i worked in the white house for president carter. towards the end of your first term as governor,
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boat people in arkansas which made it impossible for you to get reelected. being ht by not reelected, you were driven so much harder to work to be president later on. i really ton: appreciate it. i don't think i ever adequately thanked you for doing that. [laughter] so at the time you weren't that happy about it. president bush, i think i'm esponsible for your being elected this way. i worked in the carter white 19%. and got inflation to that enabled president reagan to your father vice president and maybe helped you become president. have you ever thought about that. had bush: i think clinton a bigger role in it than you, i don't think i would have run for had not defeated dad in 1992. it would have been difficult for beaten ann richards in 1994 because i'd have spent defending george h.w. bush who would have been in the last two years of his presidency. losing, it enabled brother jeb and me to be able to kind of
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on our own for governor in our respective states. host: both of you ran for first time you ran and you both lost. you have that in common. trying lost, you were to beat an incumbent congressman and you lost. out of politics or what made you. pres. clinton: i got a break in a way. the nk in the house, democrats did really well in 1974 in the house races after president nixon resigned. ran against a congressman, he approval rating and 99% name recognition. pres. bush: that's called suicide. [laughter] pres. clinton: and i was 0-0 and e beat me 51-48, by three points. and it's the best thing that ever happened to me. we wound up being friends too. we ran in had t the highest amount of gasoline
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because it was all hilly roads and you had to do stuff people don't do anymore. if you didn't do retail campaigning. 75% of what i know about politics in that first race. now, at that time, hillary clinton came down and helped you in that campaign. did you really think at that she was going to stay down in arkansas and marry you? not se arkansas was considered, in her world, the the center of the universe, exactly. know. inton: i did not i wound up having it one step at a time. i'd already asked her twice to and she'd said, "no" both times. smart girl. [laughter] the third timeso i told her to just come down here. they liked her so much at the her a ool, they offered job teaching. she didn't have anything else to do. er other job was -- she was working with the house fiduciary committee. so when that whole thing was
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job and just took the it worked out pretty well. host: when you got married, you or she said tofe you, i don't want to ever make any speeches and you kind of implied you weren't going to get into politics? pres. bush: no, no, not true. [laughter] we got married in november, and the next year i for congress. ut i said she'd never have to give a political speech. and then she did. host: and she was pretty good at it, i guess. good speaker, yes. host: so you lost, you ran for and you lost. did you say i'm out of politics? while, but it r a turns out, like bill said, it was the best thing that happened to me. who had beaten me said if i hadn't beat bush, he'd on the agricultural committee. host: when you decided to run richards, your mother and father said you had no chance of winning.
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pres. bush: the father didn't say that. mother did. host: what did you say to her when you won? pres. bush: are you going to to the inauguration? [laughter] mother. sh: you know my you never pop off to her like that, otherwise -- [laughte [laughter] floor you. -- she'll host: when both of you became you were both around government. what was the biggest surprise, the first day in the oval secrets,ou learned the the nuclear codes, all the crises that we might be getting into. what is the biggest surprise you found and when did it hit you you're the president of the the most powerful man in the world. was it the first day, the first week, the first month? pres. clinton: harry truman said the most amazing thing about president is you spend most of your time trying to talk people into doing things they without your g asking in the first place. maybeat surprised me, and
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because i was -- one of his i was est gigs on me was the governor of a small southern state. factually true. removed you're so far from the american people that you asrd for them to see a three-dimensional person. of when he was governor texas as big as texas is, i think you have a much more ersonal relationship with the people. bob bullock was the governor, a democrat, a very good friend of mine. he loved george bush and i think he helped him be a better governor. just used w, we were to being people and dealing with eople, and it really surprised me how easily i could be turned car tan o-dimensional instead of a three-dimensional uman being and you have to
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discipline yourself about what to talk about how it. and you have to keep remembering, there's all these people etween you and that didn't used to be there. that surprised me. i thought i was a pretty good ommunicator, you know, and i just fell on my face four or five times until i figured out how to do it. president at a very young age. you were 46 years old. f you had been president at 56 or 66, do you think it would have been different or would you have had less energy at that age more experience? pres. clinton: i think i would better, in some ways, older. been but i think i would have been not as good in some ways, a ause sometimes you get bunch done because you're too dumb to know you can't do it. you show up and you keep trying and something happens, you know. host: when your father was president, you obviously were in house, you saw what he did right and what he might have done wrong. lessons from ny that, or were you trying to separate yourself from your
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father? pres. bush: no, i learned a lot watching him and i wasn't nterested in separation from him and he wasn't interested either. we had a great father-son relationship. and, yeah, i learned a lot from him. ng my most startling moment came right after the inaugural parade. go in ed i was going to the oval office to see what it felt like. me, andy card had called upstairs in the residency so i ked dad to come in was sitting in the oval office at the desk there kind of just mying it all in and in walks dad and i said, welcome mr. president. he said, thank you, mr. president. [laughter] host: what was it like when your mother walked in the oval office the first time when you were the president of the united states? pres. bush: she started laughing loud. [laughter] pres. clinton: it was so it culous, the idea that could have ever happened. but on the other hand, when i
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started running, she was the a y person who thought i had good chance to win. did. else hillary and chelsea were undecided at the beginning. [laughter] made me nton: but it feel good because my mother had a pretty tough life. three, and she shea pretty tough life, and got up at 5 o'clock every ready, was t herself at work by 7:00 and did everything she could to take care of me. able to show be it to her, and she was ill then, year, justved another a little more than another year, me, a little less than a year. january 6. next host: so what's it like to live in the white house. pres. bush: do you want to know said? y mother host: well, i guess so. [laughter] off bush: get your feet the jeffersonian table.
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[laughter] host: your mother was proud, of course. think about this, there's only ne woman who ever had a son become president of the united states whose father was of the united states, abigail adams. who mother was the only one saw her husband be president and her son. pretty unusual. pres. bush: yeah, it is. host: so today, when you were living in the white house, some it a prison because you really can't get out that much, or do you enjoy it, it's a thing. you have all these servants there. you can go to camp david when you want. live there sure to or not so much? pres. clinton: i think if you informal life, you know, in the governor's mansion very ansas, it's different. lived, you know, like i was basically self-supporting from the time i was 19, and it -- it took some getting used to, but i developed a real
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respect and affection for the that work there, and i eveloped an enormous amount of respect for the secret service i the risks they take, and adjusted myself accordingly, and i love living in the white house. very vividly the last time i got off of the helicopter i and walked in the white house as president before i would soon be gone and he would there, and i was consciously aware that i was going in there optimistic than i was about america than the first time i in. d more idealistic. i just -- i never got tired of it. host: did you like living in the white house? pres. bush: yeah, i did. it's great. pamper you. the staff, there were many of same people that worked there when i was there and many when dad was there, so we'd when we wentw them to visit, but it's great. historic place.
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it is comfortable. i loved every minute of living there. host: what about camp david? most people have never been to camp david. it's like at camp david. is it a great place to have a retreat and relax, or is it overrated? pres. clinton: i liked it, it's a great place. particularly, if you -- i loved it most at thanksgiving, because all our family in, you know, and i liked it when helsea could bring her friends up there and you have a little under at least you're the illusion on the ground, more freedom of movement and wandering around time. great to get away. pres. bush: i went there a lot, we went there a lot and probably used it more than any president. reagan did more. the reason we went a lot was so that we could invite our friends. we wanted to invite our friends we grew up with in midland, for
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them the oval ow office or camp david. the other thing i liked about it i love exercise, and he place is set up for hiking, running, mountain biking. there's a wonderful gym there liberating. it to be host: mountain biking is a dangerous thing and you've a couple of times. pres. bush: it's true. host: you haven't given it up. pres. bush: no, i still ride it. you don't worry about breaking things? pres. bush: no. of course the risk thing she was about? dad was jumping out of planes at 85. exercise is you play golf. you've obviously lost weight presidency. the you went on a vegan diet. to do? at hard pres. bush: less burgers. [laughter] pres. clinton: not when you have quadruple heart bypass and you want to live to be a grandfather. it a second thought. i realized i was highly prone to
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and i wantedckage, to increase my chances of living to be a grandfather. him who comes from great person in the oldest my family for three generations, man or woman. like to hangnk i'd around. i'm kind of having a good time being alive. it'll be over soon enough but i think i'll stretch it out as can. as i host: if you could run for president of the united states or former president of the toted states, what's better, be president of the united states for eight years, and these two, only 13 people in our served two story consecutive terms and you're two of the 13. f you could serve two consecutive terms would you do that or be a former president for 30 or 40 years. what do you think is more enjoyable? pres. clinton: first of all, i on how you keep score. you've got to live a long time former president to have an
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impact on as many people as you as president. and i've tried to do as best i that, but if you gave me a choice, i'd serve two terms. too, and h: yeah, me the reason why is the decisions got monumental effect on a lot of people, and kindexciting to be in that of environment. -- it insists that you use all of your skills and your policyin order to effect in a policy way. the interesting thing about the presidency is it's often defined by the unexpected, which makes the job doubly interesting. it's very on: interesting though. a lot of our most successful term. presidents are one john quincy adams went back to 16 years and one of advocates. ortant william howard taft, chief
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justices. herbert hoover came out of retirement and wrote the civil service act. great things. of and i feel that george and i have been blessed because we and barackably young obama is young, and you can be double lucky. serve eight years as president and do some other good things. would o i assume you recommend the job to people if they want to be president of the united states. asked at ay was once press conference, what do you think about this job and would you recommend this job? right now, to others tenure but inish my would you recommend the job to young people, young leaders, scholars, if they want to be president of the united states. would you say it's worth the ggravation factor and the hard work to become factor. pres. clinton: yeah, in a heart beat. pres. bush: same. we're a good chance looking at a future president here.t the 60 graduates [applaus [applause].
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host: so you would recommend it -- the highest calling of mankind i've often thought was private equity. but you would say that being of the united states is better than private equity, right? pres. bush: i don't know. 200,000 a year in pension. what do you make? [laughter] host: money isn't everything. [laughter] res. clinton: if we could just say one serious thing, i mean, i really ere are a lot of big questions floating around out there. arlos flynn, the mexican multibillionaire, a really smart guy gave a speech during the beinggn, and the campaign what it was, obviously, nobody was interested in asking about but he said i believe that this will be the first revolution that will kill more jobs than it i ates and, therefore, believe we will either have to have people with money pay even to just subsidize
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people living who don't, or the going to untries are have to start planning first for four-day and ultimately a three-day work week because of and ation, robotics artificial intelligence. nobody knows the answer to that. nobody knows if he's right or not. it's not going to be boring. it's not boring figuring out how all these climate hange issues to do it in time, and do it in a way that helps the economy, not hurts it. figuring out g whether we can have a more broadly shared prosperity and still have growth. are very significant not ions, and it's also boring figuring out how to navigate a political world in nation states borders re poorest, not just in terms of vulnerability in terrorist attacks and cyber terrorists and all of this. it's a fascinating, sobering,
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but exhilarating time to be alive. also, i told george once a i hope two ago, i said, you're not the first republican, not the last republican resident who's not afraid of immigrants. in other words, we agree, we could go to south texas and have discussion about what immigration reform should look like. at america, we are only having a 2.1 of our native-born populations from natural birth. to grow this nue economy unless we grow more diverse and take on more immigrants, so we've got to be about it.e i mean, aren't you glad that a tobodian woman found her way louisiana? [applause] pres. bush: my only regret is to didn't find her way texas. host: both of you, as we look back on your presidency. both served eight years, and as i tried to say earlier, our
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had roughly 550 million people in our country's history been americans. americans over the course of our history. 45 are elected president and served two le have consecutive terms and you are of the 13. what would you say in your eight years you are most proud of having done. pres. clinton: i was most proud office, we had t the broadest period of shared prosperity in 50 years. that is where the bottom 20 and income increased more than the top 20% and nobody was it. bout it was shared across racial and religious and regional lines. inequality? h no, and you can't in a market society. way t least we've found a to have more shared prosperity, including three budget surpluses. i think if everybody has got a
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and something to look forward to in the morning, about 90% of the other problems go away. we might have,nt let's say, about healthcare other social policy, it will all become less significant if people think they and keep a business job and educate their kids. are stable, communities are more stable and all the other problems get smaller. say in at would you eight years? res. bush: well, my daughters love me. laughter] as billsh: as bill
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>>. >> >>. pres. clinton: three young people were down there trying to lives together. my daughter still brings 18 and 25 and en 26 people home for thanksgiving every year. ll the foreign friends who don't celebrate thanksgiving or can't go home for thanksgiving, and hillary and i feed them, and they go around the table and say every ey're grateful for year. you cannot be pessimistic about hear young f you people say that. pres. bush: that's the thing tonight. i told people earlier that came that you're not going to believe how tonight's events will lift your spirits about the future of this country. . pplause] host: what makes you both optimistic about this country, the future of our country? makes you most optimistic? pres. bush: well, tonight,
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you'll see why i'm optimistic. people of good heart, people o good skills, willing to serve others, and one of the most unique things in our country is the passion that exists the united states that exists in spite of the government. say i'm people that going to try to improve the community in which i live and tonight, we're going to be just that, and any nation with that kind of nation in which the citizen ought to be optimistic. when you became former president, one of the things you're now famous for doing is painting. because re surprised you weren't thought of to be an artist before. so why did you -- pres. bush: do you think i was sensitive david? please. host: why did you decide to pick up painting. pres. bush: one thing is i let people go down and look at the exhibit after e dinner tonight. it's right behind here.
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painted, is because i was bored. institute takes enough. ut not churchill's painting, i saw it and basically i d, if that guy can paint, can paint [laughter] host: president clinton, since you've left the you've changed your diet. what gives you the greatest now, the clinton global administration. pres. clinton: building my foundation and trying to fund it. it got so big so fast that it took up all of my time, and i'm trying to make it more entrepreneurial. gets really big and can fund itself, i'm trying now but them all off our health initiatives gives medicine to poor people in the whole world, thanks to no
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bill, measure to pass the even though we didn't take any american money, it meant it the price of all medicine down everywhere. and the initiative which we don't have anymore in its incarnation, but i'm working on some specific things, help 400 million people with that. trouble. lot of you have to keep at it all the thought, at first, i oh, i don't want to do this. but i did. worka holic and didn't think i would be a gifted painter. [laughter] i admired him but for doing that and he will tell the best thing that can happen to you in politics is to consistently be interested in it. i'm very good at that. [laughter] pres. clinton: okay. me -- he made me a a ius because i look like genius because when the
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residential race started in 1999, i saw him sitting on a iowa f hay in a tent in and as far as i know, the first time he made that compassionate and i got onspeech the phone and i said you guys better pay attention to this. beat you. big mention against giving any party three terms in a row in the white house, and coulde said to people, it compassionate conserve. a bigger price cut, wouldn't you that? [laughter] pres. clinton: and i said, as we not as democrats are stickers, and r it was brilliant. and i thought they're going to underestimate this guy. i saw him beat ann richardson, a she had 20 years, and
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a 60% lead and he won anyway ecause he understood the politics was about ethics, notitions, and culture, and just what your take is on the issue. and he started the campaign where texas was at that time. it didn't have anything to o -- you didn't have to like ann richards to vote for george he maximized the number get. ople he could host: how do the two of you come together to create the presidential leadership, presidential scholars. pres. bush: one of the real these presidential centers is that they become pretty irrelevant quickly, that that e's somebody so ures people's attention, using these platforms to together and ple encourage them through our
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leadership education program. useful, and that's how it got started and, of course, inviting dads and lbjs made a sense. most people focus their attention on these libraries on he coast and stuff like that, so this is a valuable resource for people, and what we call the heartland. pres. clinton: i also think, you just talk to these young people here. it's basically a nice thing to go to the libraries. and everything. i bet you anything the thing they get most out of it is being each other and the things hat's wrong with america today and bothers me more than anything about our future, is that we have separated ourselves communities. d racist, homo s phobic and sexist, but we don't who to be around people
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disagree with us. silos. ves in the truth is in this nterdependent complex works, diverse groups make better decisions than homogeneous ones. o these people would make better decisions. and everybody knows that, but can't help themselves because when it comes to national elections, it gets and we all vote and say hey, i think -- i was elling george before we came out here, i just came from lake tahoe where we both, i started he finished, planned to save lake tahoe. t's only one of two blue-water lakes in the world and the republicans and the democrats on the ground made it possible in mindthey had the end and all we did was say, yes. just came from columbia where i started and he mostly finished columbia, which gave the country back to its people. and it was a total bipartisan because we started with the
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end in mind. we've got to get back to that in america. all this lling us, fighting over nothing, instead of saying what the heck are we trying to get done? host: we have time for one more question, and i would ask, if you could answer this. for those of you who were presidential scholars or other eople watching, if somebody wants to be the president of the united states, is the quality work, most important hard intelligence, optimism, luck? what do you think it takes for somebody who says, i want to be president? you, i want toke be like you? pres. bush: humility. really important to know what you don't know and listen to people who do know what you don't know. think you on: i also have to begin with the end in mind. you have to say, yeah, you've to win the election but why in the heck are you running? noticedhe other thing i about him. when he ran for governor against ann richards. is a n't say ann richards cluts. he said i want to be governor because i want to do one, two, and three things. couple of them i didn't agree with, but he had an agenda.
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f you want to be president, realize, it's about the people, you. ut and when it's over -- that's what a lot of these people who arrogant in office, they forget, time passes and it more quickly than you know. say ant to be able to people are better off when i quit, kids have a better future, together. are coming you don't want to say, god, look the l the people i beat or people i walked over. i think the most important thing listen, to ble, to realize everybody has got a story. pres. bush: only thing you disagreed with in my platform to take texas ought arkansas. [laughter] i disagreed : what with is he wanted to get all our water and not pay very much money for it. it out for swapped texas oil, i told him, you know.
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[laughter] host: president clinton, president bush, i want to thank you for your service to and the leadership you've given to so many people and thank you for what you're presidency. post thank you. . pplause] anouncer: coming up this weekend on c-spann history tv 3. tonight, at 10:00 eastern, on real america" the 1947 u.s. world department film "don't be
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hate-filled out speech. american, american, and some of the things i see in this country of ours make my blood boil. with foreign all the money. holding jobs that belong to me. and you, i ask you, if we allow this thing to go on. 6:00 p.m.on sunday at eastern on american artifacts, e'll tour the presidential vehicles collection at the henry dearborn, m in michigan. at 8 p.m. eastern on the residency, herbert hoover scholar george stash talks about the relationship between the calvin cool t and edge. >> four days before the gave hoover anly extraordinarily effusive public endorsement, in a prearranged that evoked sensational
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