tv Newsmakers with Representative Mark Walker CSPAN September 8, 2017 9:12pm-9:46pm EDT
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representative mark walker, a republican of north carolina. in the studio, we have an entertainment bloomberg news. anna has the first question. simon: on friday, --anna: on friday, an important bill was passed. you voted no against the bill. can you explain your boat and your position on this piece of legislation? rep. walker: thank you for the opportunity of being with you today. i did vote no on this particular package, primarily because, republicans, we felt concerned this was not a good attachment to any kind of debt ceiling raising. steve mnuchin met with republicans three or four months ago, back in june, and we
specifically asked for some kind of long-term reform to raise the debt ceiling. in 2014, only 24 republicans voted for the debt ceiling to be increased. we understand the importance of it. all we are asking is that some reform be attached to it long-term. nearly all of us footage for the relief package on wednesday, but when we start attaching things that drive is deeper into debt time after time, a lot of us have problems with that. >> these issues are not pushed off -- are now pushed off. have you approach negotiations knowing what you know now about how house and senate leadership carries themselves and we are meeting with president trump on chairman do you as the say these are going to be our top pieces to negotiate and what to the next couple of weeks of life? rep. walker: we are going to do the same thing we have done the last several weeks and be
--active and spent the thick and specific. -- we haveowed down narrowed it down to 19 reforms. i was disappointed today in the treasury secretary's response to our questions in the conference meeting we had. concerning specifically one question i personally asked, what does the debt ceiling look like in december? the treasury secretary could not answer that. >> what are going to be be top priorities for you out of those 19? do you have the top issues? rep. walker: yes. we have listed out several that we consider top issues, considering the perspective. i spoke to the chairman of the
ways and means committee, kevin brady, and we discussed this. we are trying to find ways to include that in some of the legislation. this has to happen. other things like making the cbo more transparent, putting some kind of reforms on medicaid for capable audio adults -- capable bodied adults. we, as a publican, we can't sit here the obama administration for the last eight years and talk about increased debt, and that when it comes to our turn the on track for as much spending asthma the democrats were in charge. it is ludicrous and insincere. >> given the list of demands you go togroup, when negotiate the next time around, what do you say to people who say, you are just forcing the president and republicans to rely on democratic votes to get some and done? rep. walker: i think if they would incorporate some of the reforms we wouldn't be reliant on democrat vote. that is the point.
-- towere able to would attack the reforms, you would have the book of the people who voted against in this particular package today, you would have their support. you wouldn't have all of it, but the majority would support if there was some kind of republican reform attached to it. that is the whole issue time after time. this has been going on for six or seven years. we understand if we have spent the money and we don't want to default. we get all of that. if we do that and not put anything attached to it, it is very disconcerting. that is why a loveless work troubled about this. -- that is what a lot of us were troubled about this. >> the republicans don't have a majority in the senate. they would need at least eight democrats to vote for whatever legislation comes out of the house. does the house representative have a responsibility to design legislation and a way that can get some democrat votes in the senate, and have you spoken to
any of your democratic colleagues about these kind of reforms? i imagine some of them are concerned about our country's long-term debt. the walker: to be fair to question, you're exactly right. i have spoken with several democrats and there is a growing concern as far as how fast we are adding to the national debt. i have spoken to senate colleagues as well. to the heart of your question, should be house speaker asking legislation with the mindset that if we get 60 votes out of the senate, my answer to that is no. i'd open defendant is wondering if their legislation is going to get -- further, the house should not be where others are on this. we have to do what we are supposed to do and the promises we have made to the american people. i am not saying be quick about it. but to sit around and try to
drafting legislation specifically with mind of where it could or couldn't get a vote, that is not where we need to be. to decemberhead when we have to do the debt ceiling debate again, the administration is going to be involved in this. you mentioned there were conversations with house republicans, with the determination, with mick mulvaney, they were advocating yes votes on this massive package as a way to get something done. i understand it were making this argument. have you worked with -- have you work with the administration while supporting their priorities but also wanting to say we need to have these fiscal reforms? forgive me for putting it bluntly, but getting something done from my mindset doesn't include adding hundreds of billions of dollars to the national debt. as for is working with steve mnuchin and mick mulvaney, they
.re encumbered to work with us after we declined the offer in june, my question to him today was not answered, which was which reforms were considered? why didn't we have discussions about some reforms being attached to that? that is a question that was not answered. over the next three month, i from the will hear us base of republicans that they need to engage us to talk about some of these reforms. right now, we have been shut out. i hope with 90 republicans voting against this today that they will pay attention to it. >> 90 republicans voted no after this meeting with the treasury secretary and mick mulvaney, the budget director. do you think those two
administration officials turned the no'syeses, or work going in the same that came out? rep. walker: that is a tough question to speculate. if i were to give you an answer, i would probably say they lost a few votes rather than gaining a few. because of steve mnuchin's inability to answer some of the basic questions that came from members. it fell flat, crated murmurs throughout the conference. i don't think they did a great service to their position. it to kevin mccarthy coming in at the end trying to rally the troops, which he does well, and wayzata arctic you envision -- and lays out an articulate vision. >> how can you change this dynamic? there is a lot of legislation that is going to come up in the
next few months, not only the things that have been pushed off until december, it also tax legislationgration is going to be on the agenda as well. how do you change the dynamic not only within the conference but also working with the administration? how do you get the treasury secretary and the president to take the demands of conservative three sleep? --seriously? >> i don't think there is any guarantee. we said we would be proactive instead of reactive. we are going to continue that. one of the things that helped is when you have the bulk of conservatives that voted against something that the administration had signed off on, i hope that sends a clear signal. i don't know of anything else we can do to make it stronger. a lot of these conservatives have constituent bases at the
heart of the support for this administration. i hope that somewhere along the line there will be more discussions as far as, where is the breakdown? why did this happen with unanimous or majority support to get some of these things done? we have to be able to the other vocally. -- out there vocally. you don't have to be back -- you don't have to do that any disparaging way. we cannot look away any longer. >> they did get the bill passed today with help from the minority party. rep. walker: if you are looking that from a democrat perspective, then i would agree. my job is to focus on what we believe our republicans values in republican principles. if you are counting on democrats to get something done, for me that is counterproductive.
one of the big developers this week was the deal reached by president trump and congressional leadership to get to this legislation that passed on the floor and friday. can you talk about the dynamic within the conference entitled personally when the deal was reached -- and how you felt personally in the deal was reached? it was a pretty surprising development that he did not decide to go with the idea from speaker ryan and leader mcconnell. with speaker ryan's leadership, it doesn't seem like any sort of direct challenge right now, republicans are quick to say they support him, but do you think he could do anything different in the future? rep. walker: when you say he, you were referring to the president or mitch mcconnell? >> could speaker ryan do anything different? rep. walker: i think speaker ryan is the best policy person in the house.
i think there are probably areas note we have got to be, just speaker ryan, but our entire conference has to meet more demonstrative in our position to speak out. we have to hold our positions and articulate those well, not just from a visionary standpoint but for that execution that creates the opportunity to accomplish those. many of us are supportive of the speaker and want to see him continue to do well, but we have to have wins quickly, because of the next two or three months, i believe -- will come and and we have nothing to show for it. you said the speaker is a good policy person. is there a skills that he is lacking for the job? -- is there a skill set that he is liking for the job? rep. walker: speaker of the
house is the toughest job in washington. i think it is incumbent upon him -- all of us vision is great. creativity is wonderful. we have to do better execution. >> do you think republicans are going to be will to overhaul the ux -- the u.s. taxco this year? -- the u.s. tax code this year? rep. walker: i do. i think you'll be subjective as far as who is interpreting what level of overhauling me hopping. and expected to happen for thanksgiving. >> will be comprehensive for tax cuts? rep. walker: i think it will be reform. kevin brady deserves a lot of congratulatory remarks because of how hard he has worked as chairman of the ways and means, even through the health care he continued to stay diligent in
trying to put the best performance possible. that is why i think the framework is there. it is reasonable to believe we could get this done by the end of november. >> does steve mnuchin's position ?n the debt limit and peril his position -- imperil his position? rep. walker: i think we are going to need to see a stronger vision from him. reform asmes to tax opposed to the talking points, we want to know what that looks like. not saying he is not the person from the job, but he needs to do a stronger job and what he has done for the debt ceiling >> strong provision -- stronger vision? it is hisr: responsibility to understand from the policy side, not just his perspective, but the process
of what it takes to get these done through committee and to be thelable, working alongside committees of jurisdiction to a compass this. >> does this deal with president trump and the democrats cause you anxiety when thinking about the future of tax form? do you think he might go off and try to muppet the way to bring democrats into what is now a republican focus tax reform plan? rep. walker: i don't blame the president for trying to bring .emocrats to the positions i understand it and i applaud him for it. this one-time event of him ,orking with schumer and pelosi were we surprised by it? we were. was it uncomfortable? it was.
i don't think this one time making this kind of move establishes any kind of long-term concern. if it's a pattern, it would be, but not at this point. according to nancy pelosi, the president agreed with her on passing the dream act. where are you one that? rep. walker: i want to make sure you -- that is accurate. i wouldn't do a total pass here. it is a legislative issue. >> what should the scope of the legislation be? should it just be legal status of the so-called dreamers or also the people that would daca category?e s
should it address the millions of people that are here undocumented? rep. walker: i think those are several pieces of legislation, but i will add that was the republicans being in charge, it is incumbent upon us to pass some kind of long-term result of some of these issues rather than kicking the can down the road. this is not something that we just look the other way and hopefully democrats will figure it out. this is something we need to be in charge. tois incumbent upon us to -- some this long-term. i support securing the border. i think it is going to be part of the process of reaching any time of -- any kind of long-term agreement on the things you just mentioned. while is going to
be -- the border wall is going to be a crazy better with debt ceiling and government funding. can you talk about how you will be approaching those conversations. are you certain to outline what you think will be be top priorities in that conversation. what do you want to see included in those bills? rep. walker: i believe all of those issues are concerned. if you're asking me for my priority standpoint, tax reform is number one. health care has been at the forefront. we are having to see what kind house.t is left in the daca and debt ceiling are crucial. if the republicans across the board cannot resolve some of these issues, we may get it a failing grade. if we are waiting until january or february 12 publishes, we have waited too late. all of those issues should be
something we should be capable of. >> how worried are you about the leverage in december with democrats going to be supplying some of the votes for the debt ceiling and having a government spending conversation as well? i am concerned about it. we are going to do what we feel like is right. try to create and layout of vision. what we get the votes needed? i don't know we will, and that is one of the concerns. >> you mentioned health care. you sign down -- you signed on to a petition that would not include a replacement for the obamacare law. time forink there is
the house to go forward with that in september, knowing that the budget reconciliation on september 30? rep. walker: i don't believe i actually signed that discharge. we are probably meaning that direction or in favor of, but we will do whatever it takes. if we need to do or repeal only , not sayingntinue i'm opposed, but i don't know if we are able. carolina, at the end of this year, 94 out of 100 counties will only have one choice. this isn't something that is going to go out of -- go away. is some legislation comes back from the senate, is that something you ignore fellow conservatives would? rep. walker: i think so.
not to the point where the president is, looking for any kind of deal, but we want to to have the mandates removed on the individual and employer. if they can't get the skinny deal done, which we felt was the baseline, even with the promise house, it does create concern of what can get passed in the senate. >> we have time for a couple more questions. couple of weeks, do you have any plans to push some of these spending reforms he would've liked to see attached to the debt ceiling? any plans to try and use some of the leverage to try to get something else done in september? rep. walker: there is. i'm hesitant to lay out specifically what the strategy is. come on, you are on
"newsmakers." [laughter] rep. walker: i did layout earlier which maybe working with kevin brady. there are some things we are looking at doing. if we want to be consistent about some of these reforms we believe are important, the reason the debt ceiling isn't the only avenue to try to accomplish some of these things. >> the budget is the next obvious challenge for the house we have seen the budget resolution -- resolution side of the last couple of months. it is starting to get attention and could come to the floor next week. vehiclertant is this with billions of dollars of cuts in mandatory spending, how important is it for the house to definitively pass this? rep. walker: it is crucial. the house must pass this budget.
ours on thends of left and right that still have questions and concerns, and some of those are valid. this is the vehicle for tax reform. incredible has been and trying to find long-term reforms in the mandatory side. used -- she is to be applauded for that. it passed unanimously with republicans. do you think there are enough republican votes at this point to pass the budget? --do you and your committee supported? rep. walker: i don't know there are enough votes to pass it right now. yes, i do plan on supporting it. i believe the bulk of the republican senate committee
supports it as well. >> one more question. upwhen suggesting that came yesterday from chuck schumer and president trump was to suspend the debt limit altogether, do away with it. is that something you would support? rep. walker: no. it is not something i would support. i don't see that happening. i don't know if that was just a conversation between a couple new york buddies or what, but it is not something either myself, but i believe most members would have a problem with that. represented mark walker, thank you, sir. we turn to our to reporters here. nna, let me begin with you. what is our take away from the conversation? hundred 50 of conservative blog to this caucus group. what did you hear? >> you can tell from the
frustration how much tension there is in the republican party right now and her hard it is -- and how hard way the two houses of congress are set up, the way the democrats have been able to be unified in whatever position it is they take on the debt limit or obamacare. it is hard for republicans to get anything done turning on their own party. that makes for a challenging job for speaker ryan. said we should craft legislation that can't pass in the senate, but it they don't, it it doesn't end up on the president's desk. what are folks telling you about december, and will the democrats have a seat at the table and be relied on to deliver votes? >> it's clear the democrats will have a seat at the table now. the congressman says he is not worried about december.
i have been hearing from other members that they are nervous about the next couple of weeks and whether they are going to support trading in. this has shaken the caucus. the biggest issues of the year, we have the debt limit, funding the federal government, the very first spending bill that president trump will have a rolling shaping. -- april in shaping. you have the border wall. it is coming to a head. everybody hates those holiday time votes. it is unavoidable at this point unless we can see some other major development. >> but did you make of his assessment of steve mnuchin's performance before the republican conference? >> that's an interesting dynamic. that is not a new complaint.
i have heard, especially conservatives, say they have taken their suggestions for senate reforms to the treasury secretary and house leadership months ago, and he weren't considered. they were received with a nod and, ok, that's a good idea, but not taken seriously. you are probably saying that bubble over today. that is going to have implications for tax or form, inause it is steve mnuchin gary cohen that are heading up the tax or form experts for the white house. those are the two people heading up these conversations, that is a hard proposal to sell to the republican conference as a whole. >> what are you hearing about the timeline for tax or form? -- for taxax reform reform? the white house is still
saying it is going to happen, he what it done -- we want it done. when you look at how difficult it is to get anything done, we talked a little bit about the budget resolution, which is required to have the gop's tax reform even start the process. there are a lot of problems with this bill. even just thinking about the forces outside the republicans control, the hurricane that is isut to hit florida, it republicans in the house trying to figure out how they can possibly bring a budget to the floor without knowing how many members they are going to have next week if you think about the forces like the hurricane, the republicans are trying to figure out how to get a budget to the floor. they have a lot to manage. >> that is a perfect example. speaker ryan often says the republicans are wired the same way when it comes to tax reform.
they all prefer lower taxes, but when you get to be policy details, there is going to be a lot of pushback and people in districts affected in different ways. i don't think it is going to be very easy. >> on top of all of that, like the congressman them of those spokesman to see another vote on health care. is that possible? if he so much frustration that doesn't go anywhere in the senate. he goes to the other point that they don't have a responsibility to design legislation that can pass in the senate. if that is their attitude, then it won't. it is going to be hard to move republican priorities and it is why tax reform is so important. given the failure on health care, that is the main bold
letter piece of legislation they wanted to do this year. >> because we got this debt ceiling funding deal done so early, you can't exaggerate how remarkable it is that they are so ahead of the deadline. september 30, and here we are. there is extra time right now. the house has an extra couple of weeks that they didn't have planned. this was supposed to be taken up by really hard physical conversations. we have several other deadlines on september 30, other programs that are going to expire, but there's a chance we could see something else on health care bubble up. >> before this week, nobody was funding thet
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