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>> how about 10-year-olds? >> this is not a permissive bill, this is a mandatory bill on states to say "you cannot enforce your laws as long as any other state has a law that is more permissive or lacks than ."urs the second amendment, the supreme court of the district of columbia justice scalia explicitly set the second amendment right is not unlimited gunthat a variety of regulations are entirely consistent with the constitution he wrote, the majority of american courts to consider the question held that prohibitions were lawful under second amendment or state analogies. invoking the second amendment does not >> part of yesterday's rules committee on the meeting on today's legislation. the conceal carry handgun bill coming up today. the house gaveling momentarily.
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members today will -- before they get to that debate we expect texas democrat al green says he'll submit articles of impeachment against president trump. the house may have a vote related to that issue or go on to the gun bill. live coverage here on c-span. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, four conroy. chaplain conroy: let us pray. loving god, thank you for giving us another day. we thank you on this day for the example of st. nicholas, who fed the hungry, brought hope to the imprisoned, gave comfort to the lost and taught the truth to all. may all who work here in the people's house strive to imitate him by putting you first in all we do. give us the courage, love, and strength of st. nicholas so
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that, like him, we may serve you through our service to all our brothers and sisters. may all that we do be for your greater honor and glory, amen. the speaker pro tempore: the chair has examined the journal of the last day's proceedings and announces to the house his approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 of rule 1, the journal stands approved. the pledge of allegiance will be led by the gentleman from arizona, mr. o'halloran. mr. o'halloran: thank you, mr. speaker. would all rise and join us in the pledge. plemmingpledge i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will entertain up to 15 requests for one-minute speeches on each side of the aisle.
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for what purpose does the gentleman from south carolina eek recognition? without objection. >> mr. speaker, with the leadership of ways and means committee chairman kevin brady of texas the house has passed a tax cuts and jobs act. the tax cuts bill the house republicans supported makes the tax code simpler and fairer, allowing hardworking taxpayers to keep more of their own money they earned and gives small businesses more room to grow and create jobs. mr. wilson: our senate colleagues deserve credit in listening to the people of the country in voting to pass the tax cuts last week. now we stand on the doorstep of history. as we move to conference committee, we have a chance to overhaul the antiquated and notoriously confused tax code for the first time in a generation. when the conference process is finished, the president will be
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able to sign a tax cut bill that serves the interests of families and businesses, rather than those of special interests. speaker paul ryan said, these opportunities come around only once in a generation and now is the time for us to seize the moment. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? mr. sirse: to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. sirse: mr. speaker -- mr. sires: , i rise today in continued opposition to the republican tax plan. earlier this week the house of representatives agreed to go to conference with the senate on h.r. 1, which gives breaks to the wealthy and corporations at the expense of the needs of the american family. this bill eliminates deductions used by those who need it most, students, teachers, veterans,
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the sick, families that are struggling to make ends meet. and yet despite this elimination of numerass vital deductions, the millions of families across this country rely on, the house and the enate bill retains a deduction for golf owners. if you own a golf course in deductions are kept. but if you are a student and you get a scholarship, you're going to have to pay taxes on that. so deductions are kept. if i were a student, i'd get it twice. looking at cutting the pell grants, we're looking at taxing what the students get. yet if you own a golf course, where this game is played, you get a deduction. sorry, don't think that's famplete -- fair. thank you, if i were a mr. spea for eaker pro tempore: what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition?
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>> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. smith: mr. speaker, according to a new quinnipiac poll, 58% of americans disapprove of the media's coverage of the president. only 38% approve. for what purpose does the gentleman from it's no surprise why the american people disapprove of the media's coverage. a few weeks ago cbs evening news ran a lengthy story mocking president trump for taking a sip of water during the middle of his speech. to date the broadcast networks of abc, cbs, and nbc have spent over 12 hours on an unproven trump-russia connection while only devoting 4 1/2 minutes to the clinton uranium scandal involving russia. news week published a headline accusing identify advantagea trum of i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of americaer itch -- ivanka of i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of americaer itch because she used a sentence -- i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of americaer itch -- plagerism because she used a
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sentence from a previous speech. the liberal bias is on display see and americans are tired of it. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from arizona seek recognition? >> request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. see and americans re the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> mr. speaker, i rise today to pay my respects to a hero. george wily sr. of lupe, arizona, patched away this week at the age of 92. he was a highly decorated navajo code the speaker pro tempore: without objection. talker who s from 1943 to 1946. according to his family, george delivered and received coded messages using the navajo language at the battle of okinawa. his love for his family was unwavering. and his commitment to his country was steadfast.
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mr. o'halleran: we're keeping his wife, 10 children, and grandchildren in our prayers as we mourn his passing. a celebration of his life is scheduled for friday at the first presbyterian church. george will be laid to rest with honors at the veterans memorial cementtary -- cemetery at camp navajo. i yield. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> mr. speaker, i rise in strong support of the conceal carry reciprocity act. our bill allows law-abidinging citizens who are qualified to carry concealed firearms in one state to also carry in other states that allow residents to do so. constitutional rights do not end at state lines. and this must include an individual's ability to exercise their second amendment rights. recent survey shows 73% of
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americans agree and support this. the system is too confusing and unfortunately results in some conceal carry permit holders to unknowingly break the law and suffer arrest while preventing others from carrying across state lines at all. our bill corrects this infringement on america's second amendment rights and allows conceal permit carry holders the ability to travel freely between the states just like a driver's license. as a lifelong gun owner and supporter of the second amendment, i urge my colleagues to support this commonsense bill and empower law-abidinging -- law-abiding citizens as they travel across state lines. mr. babin: thank you. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from indiana seek recognition? >> unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. speaker.
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the second amendment to the constitution of the united states reads, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. that right is a fundamental freedom. guaranteed by our bill of rights. that's why i'm proud to co-sponsor the conceal carry reciprocity act which protects the second amendment rights of all americans. this legislation says that if you are qualified to carry a gun in your own state, you can carry a gun in any state that has a similar law. this bill will eliminate significant obstacles to the right to keep and bear arms for millions of americans in every state. hoosiers get it. law-abiding gun owners have a right to defend themselves and that right should not end at the state line. i urge support for this legislation and ask my colleagues to join me in doing more to uphold our second amendment rights. mr. messer: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for
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what purpose does the gentleman from maryland seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i ask to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> mr. speaker, i rise today in support of the conceal carry reciprocity act as well. mr. harris: this commonsense legislation protects the constitutional right to bear arms by allowing qualified individuals to carry a concealed firearm across state lines. your first amendment right to free speech doesn't change when you cross state lines and neither should your second amendment constitutional right to protect yourself. unfortunately for marylanders, our right to bear arms is still heavily restricted by gun control liberals in our state legislature. restricting the right to own firearms only hurts a law-abiding citizen's right to defend herself. cities like baltimore and chicago with their out-of-control murder rates despite highly restrictive gun laws are proof of that. conceal carry reciprocity will make our country safer. self-defense is the top reason owning a firearm and
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carry permit holders are not certainly to blame for our nation's violent crime problem. i urge my colleagues to pass h.r. 38 and protect our second amendment rights. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from missouri seek recognition? >> unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. carry permit are not certainly to blame for our nation's violent crime problem. i urge my >> thank you, mr. speaker. i come to the floor today to praise the progress the senate and house has made toward passing texas reform for the american people. our tax plan would roughly double the standard deduction, a deduction that 17% of momentians use. when our tax bill passes the simple truth is it will allow missouri families and families everywhere to take home more of their paychecks. our tax plan will also be more fair, eliminating special interest loopholes, and making it easier for average americans to file taxes. currently our country spends a total of $378 billion per year
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filing tax returns. mrs. hartzler: our tax plan will change all that. mr. speaker, i look forward to working with my colleagues on the final version of this bill so we can give americans a this christmas and watch our economy grow. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. thompson: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today with heavy heart to honor alfred pillow, a resident of franklin, pennsylvania, who passed away last week at his home. ernie was involved in the founding the veterans coalition and the vets honor guard in franklin. he was also deeply instrumental in bringing the veterans administration clinic to franklin to care for our military men and women. the 79-year-old was a u.s. army peacetime veteran who served 37 months in germany. in 1960 he married his wife with whom he spent 57 years of
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wedded bliss. a family man, loving husband, brother, father, grandfather. he was a self-employed building contractor. he received the pennsylvania builders of the year award in 1996. pennsylvania builders distinguished achievement award in 2014. a member of the masonic blue lodge and york right, ernie received his masonic 50-year pin in 2015. pennsylvania build distinguished achievement award in mr. speaker, ernie pillow lived a life of service, to his country, his community, and his family. he'll be sorely missed by all who know him. thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. green: mr. speaker, once again i am accorded the pre-eminent privilege of ddressing the house. i consider this one of the great honors of my life to be able to address the house of representatives.
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and today after this one-minute i consider remark, mr. speaker, i will present a privileged resolution . i want to thank the many persons, especially my staff, who have assisted in the drafting and crafting of this resolution. i'm grateful to the many persons who have supported me many in ways. mr. speaker, with that, i yield back the balance of my time. and, mr. speaker, pursuant to ause 2-a-1 of rule 9, i rise to give notice of my intention to raise a question of the privileges of the house. the form of the resolution is as follows. am i recognized, mr. speaker? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman may proceed. mr. green: thank you. , peaching donald john trump president of the united states,
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of high misdemeanors. resolved, that donald john trump, president of the united states, is unfit to be president. . and is impeached for high misdemeanors and the following articles . of impeachment be presented, be exhibited to the senate. articles of impeachment presented to the house of representatives of the united states. in the name of itself and of the people of the united states. against donald john trump, president of the united states. in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high misdemeanors committed as president constituting harm to
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american society to the manifest injury of the people of the united states. article 1. in his capacity as president of the united states, unmindful of the high duties of his high office and the dignity and proprieties thereof and of the harmony and courtesy necessary for stability within the society of the united states donald john trump has with his statements done more than incite individuals and groups of americans, more than insult individuals and groups of americans. he has harmed the society of the united states, brought shame and
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dishonor to the office of , esident of the united states sowing discord among the people of the united states by associating the imagine industry dignity of the presidency with causes rooted in white supremacy, bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, white nationalism or neonewt seism on one or more of the following occasions. on august 15, 2017, donald john trump made a widely published statement criticizing a group of -- characterizing a group of anti-semites, bigots, racists, white nationalists and cue clubblings chancemen who rallied -- and ku klux klansmen who rallied in charlottesville,
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virginia, as fine people. the group returned to virginia at the statue of robert e. lee chanting, you will not replace us. since this event on october 7, the president has made many widely published statements about many things, including the national football league, but has not made one widely published statement condemning the hate groups for returning to the place where an innocent person lost her life at the hands of hate. on november 29, 2017, donald john trump shared three videos posted by a leader of a british political party considered by many to be an extremist group. the videos purported to show various violent acts committed by muslims and were entitled
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"muslim migrants -- muslim migrant beats up dutch by on crutches." let me restate that. "muslim migrant beats up dutch boy on crutches." "muslim destroys a statue of virgin mary." and "islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof." -- off roof and beats him to death." the clearly inferable intent of the post was to demonstrate the allege prod pencity of muslim immigrants to engage in violent acts. even if the videos show what they purport to show and sharing 43,800,000s with his followers on twitter, donald john trump's dissemination of such material evinces an
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invidious intent to create division within american society. in all of this, the aforementioned donald john trump, by his statements, unmindful of the high duties of his high office and the dignities and proprieties thereof, and of the harmony, respect, and courtesies within for stability the society of the united states has undermined the integrity of his office and has shown -- and has sown discord among the people of the united states. has brought disrepute, contempt, ridicule, and disgrace on the presidency. has acted in a manner antithetical to the cause of a just society. has betrayed his trust as president to the manifest injury of the people of the united states. and committed a high misdemeanor in office.
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therefore, donald john trump, by causing such harm to the society of the united states, is unfit to be president and warrants impeachment, trial, and removal from office. article 2. in its exass -- in his capacity as president of the united states, unmindful of the high duties of his high office of the dig -- of his high office, of the dignities and proprieties thereof, and of the harmony and respect necessary for stability in the united states, donald john trump has with his statements done more than simply insult individuals and groups of americans. he has harmed the american society by publicly casting contempt on individuals and groups, enciting hate and hostility, sowing discord among the people of the united states on the basis of race, national
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origin, religion, gender, and sexual orientation. on one or more of the following occasions. on january 27, 2017, donald john trump issued executive order 13769, providing for a partial shutdown of immigration from mainly muslim countries to fulfill a campaign promise that read as follows. donald j. trump statement on prevents muslim immigration, new york, new york. december 7, 2015. donald jomplet trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what's going on. thereby casting contempt upon muslims, inciting hate and hostility, and sowing discord
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among the people of the united states on the basis of religion. on july 26, 2017, donald john rump made a public statement essentially as follows. after consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised that the united states government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the u.s. military. our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. and thereby casting contempt on transgender individuals, inciting hate and hostility, and sowing discord among the people
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of the united states on the basis of gender. on september 23, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows. wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, get that son of a d-i-t-c-h off the field right now. out. he's fired. he's fired. to thereby casting contempt on professional football players who engaged in constitutionally protected protests pertaining to allegations of police misconduct with regard to racial minorities. as well as casting contempt on the professional players, thers, by calling the mother
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b-i-t-c-h-e-s, effectively calling these mothers, dogs. thereby inciting hate and hostility and sowing discord among the people of the united states on the basis of race and gender. on september 30, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows. they want everything to be done for them. when it should be a community effort. in the aftermath of hurricane maria, thereby casting contempt on puerto rican citizens of the united states, inciting hate and hostility and sowing discord among the people of the united states based on national origin and race. on october 3, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement
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substantially as follows, i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack because we spent a lot of money on puerto rico. that's fine. we saved a lot of lives. but donald john trump did not make similar comments about texas or florida. in the aftermath of hurricane harvey or hurricane irma. treating the puerto rican citizens of the united states differently, thereby casting contempt on puerto ricans, inciting hate and hostility, and sowing discord among the people of the united states based on origin, based on national origin and race. on october 19, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows. the fake news is going crazy with wacky congresswoman wilson.
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who was secretly on a very personal call. and gave a total lie on content. thereby casting contempt on an african-american member of congress, inciting hate and hostility and sowing discord among the people of the united states based on gender and race. on october 21, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows. i hope the fake news media keeps talking about wacky congresswoman wilson. in that she as a representative is killing the democrat party. thereby casting contempt on an african-american female member of congress, inciting hate and hostility, sowing discord among the people of the united states based on gender and race.
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on october 22, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows. wacky congresswoman wilson is the gift that keeps on giving for republican -- for the republican party. a disaster for dems. watch her in action and vote r. thereby casting contempt on an african-american female member of congress, inciting hate and hostility and sowing discord among the people of the united states based on gender and race. in all of this, the aforementioned donald john trump has, by his statements, brought the high office of president of the united states in contempt, ridicule, disgrace, and disrepute, has sown discord among the people of the united
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states, has demonstrated that he is unfit to be president, and has debe trayed his trust as president of the united states to the manifest injury of the people of the united states. and has committed a high misdemeanor in office. therefore donald john trump, by causing such harm to society -- to the society of the united states, is unfit to be president, warrants impeachment, trial, and removal from office. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. under rule 9, a resolution offered from the floor by a member other than the majority leader or the minority leader as a question of the prive regs of the house -- privileges of the house has immediate precedence only at a time designated by the chair within two legislative
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days after the resolution is properly noticed. pending that designation, the form of the resolution noticed by the gentleman from texas will appear in the record at this point. the chair will not at this point determine whether the resolution constitutes a question of privilege. that determination will be made at the time designated for consideration of the resolution. he chair lays before the house an enrolled bill. the clerk: h.r. an enrolled bill. 22 an act to amend the indyabbed related services demonstration act of 1992 to facilitate of the bility of indian tribes to get related service from diverse federal sources, and for other urposes.
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mr. collins: by direction of the committee on rules i call up house resolution 645. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house resolution 645. resolved, that upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order to consider in the house the bill, h.r. 38, to amend title 18, united states code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a state whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the state. all points of order against consideration of the bill are waived. in lieu of the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the committee on the judiciary now printed in the bill, an amendment in the nature of a substitute consisting of the text of rules committee print 115-45 shall be considered as adopted. the bill, as amended, shall be considered as read. all points of order against provisions in the bill, as amended, are waived. the previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill, as amended, and on any further amendment thereto, to final passage without
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intervening motion except: (1) one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on the judiciary; and (2) one motion to recommit with or without nstructions. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one hour. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. for the purposes of debate only, i yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from florida, mr. hastings, pending which i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman may proceed. mr. collins: during consideration of this resolution, all time is yielded for the purposes of debate only. mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to evise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on house resolution 645 currently under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. i am pleased to bring forward this rule on behalf of the rules committee. the rule provides for consideration of h.r. 38, the conceal carry reciprocity act. the rule provide for one hour of debate equally divided between the chairman and ranking member of the judiciary committee. the rule also provides for a
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motion to recommit. yesterday the rules committee had opportunity to hear from my fellow judiciary committee members, as well as congresswoman sheila jackson lee and others. the ranking member, of the crime subcommittee. last month the judiciary committee rigorously debated h.r. 38 and considered 22 amendments to this legislation. the committee also marked up and discussed h.r. 4477, the fix nics act which incorporated -- is incorporated in the rules committee print. i would like to thank my friend from north carolina, mr. hudson, for introducing this legislation which takes a commonsense approach and reflects our constitutional right to bear arms. mr. speaker, all of us in this body took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution. as well as we all understand the constitution enshrines our right to keep and bear arms in the second amendment. over the years it has been challenged in court and some cases by public opinion. however, lest there be any question about the constitutionality of our right
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to bear arms, let me remind my colleagues, the supreme court, recognized in a 2008 opinion, that the second amendment conferred an individual right to keep and bear arms. as a georgia state trooper i learned respect for firearms at an early age. i shared that respect with my boys and daughter. as a member of congress i believe i have a duty to uphold american liberties for current and future generations. i am a co-sponsor of this bill because i believe constitutional rights extend past state lines. mr. speaker, the bill of rights isn't a as a member of congress philoso it's a document that protects the practical expression of liberties that our forefathers recognized as essential elements of our democratcy. i myself has a conceal carry permit and as husband and father i prioritized to defend my family and home should the unthinkable happen. i'm also a sportsman, hunter, and defender of the second amendment. the primary purpose of my owning and keeping a permit is self-defense. don't think that right should
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be undermined simply because i travel to another state. this bill upholds and recognize state laws while ensuring driving across state lines to run to errand, go to work, or visit a relative doesn't block out an individual's rights. mr. speaker, i tell you a recent story about how firearms play a critical role in self-defense and promote public safety. yesterday, in dawson county, part of my district in georgia, a woman witnessed an individual attacking a sheriff's deputy at a local gas tation. the woman was in possession of a firearm and fired at the suspect of the while details are still unfolding, at this point it highlights the benefits of a citizenry that is responsibly armed. contrary to the claims of second amendment contractors, this act is not about expanding access to firearms or putting guns in the hands of criminals. on the contrary, the bill includes protections to uphold laws surrounding firearm possession and safeguard individuals the ability to protect themselves and neighbors. this act supports the second amendment rights of law-abiding
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americans and importantly it offers a solution to the current patchwork of state laws affecting conceal carry permits. issue ly all 50 states conceal carry permits in some capacity. these laws leave citizens traveling across state lines to decide for a variety of state laws or orisk inadvertently breaking the law. it is also worth noting of the states that adopted right to carry legislation, no state has repealed it. moreover, mr. speaker, we're simply have no evidence to indicate the conceal carry permit holders pose a risk to public safety. the conceal carry reciprocity act upholds states' rights to establish their permitting requirements but takes the commonsense steps that allow individuals who meet the criteria in their home states to bear arms in other states as long as they follow the local conceal carry laws of the state they are in at any given time. the bill does not allow individuals who currently would be prohibited under federal law from possessing firearms to obtain those weapons and doesn't tell states how to regulate the use of firearms. it does ensure that law-abiding
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citizens can protect themselves and exercise their second amendment rights when crossing state lines. 0 states, including georgia, already have shall issue permits, which require states to issue already have shall issue permits, which require states to issue permits to individuals who meet the legal requirements for conceal carry permit. eight states have a may issue law, that allows discretionary permit laws, and 12 states of a for carrying concealed weapon without any permit or license at all. while many states have some type of reciprocity where of a concealed weapon they mutually recognize permits from other states or may honor permits issued by those jurisdictions, there are some states that neither recognize them nor issue permits to nonresidents, resulting in the complete ban of conceal carry right on people who find states. s in those the state laws and terms for recognizing these permits is complex. we must recognize and remember at a practical level our union focuses by acknowledging the necessary reciprocity on certain state functions. this being one of them.
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the current patchwork of state law means these law-abiding individuals have to stop and think about their state, their rights, whether they are located at the time, and recognize their second amendment rights or risk breaking the law. also, mr. speaker, h.r. 38 the text of the fix nics system. it would require federal the te nics act. the fix nics act ensures individuals who are prohibited from receiving firearms are operly documented in the agencies to report vellrelvant records in accordance with the law. mr. speaker, the legislation before us upholds the constitutional right to keep and bear arms and recognizes the fact that the bill of rights isn't limited to certain jurisdictions. our founding fathers carved certain foundational rights into our democracy and today's bill uphold the spirit and letter of the second amendment. with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: agencies to the gentleman reserves his time. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i thank my friend from georgia for yielding to me the
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customary 30 minutes for debate. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, this brought th closed rule toy buy the republican -- brought by the republican majority to the floor. yesterday in the rules committee i pointed that out, as well as the fact that there were 25 members of this body who offered amendments that were not made in order, significant numbers of them were germane, and they were bipartisan. we can't continue to ignore the importance of allowing for full membership to participate on behalf of their constituents.
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today's bill combines two bills. one, a bipartisan supported approach to strengthening background checks. the other a kiss graceful -- disgraceful handout to the powerful gun lobby and gun manufacturers. i also pointed out last night that the n.r.a. in many respects is two bodies. those at the top and the rank-and-file members. many of the members, for example, support universal background checks that we could be talking about in this easure if an amendment seeking not to have it made in order had been made in order. a month ago yesterday this country grieved with our brothers and sisters in sutherland springs, texas, as they reeled from one of the worst mass shootings this
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country has ever suffered. a man walked into a house of worship as church goers prayed and sprayed bullets throughout the building. he killed an 18-month-old baby. he killed eight members of one family. he killed the pastor's 14-year-old daughter. and a totalal of 26 people. he was unable -- he was able to do so in a matter of minutes. we learned later that this man had served in the air force and had been court-martialed for committing acts of domestic violence against his wife and infant child. as part of his had been court-martialed for committing acts sentence, he was prohibited from purchasing or possessing firearms. tragically this information was never put into the national instant background check system. we call that nics.
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and he was able to pass a background check and come into possession of several guns he would use to murder 26 innocent people in sutherland springs, texas, on november 5, 2017. this tragic event is instructive to the bill brought by us today. clearly our back grouped check system must be -- background check system must be strengthened. e problems with our system are more grave than we previously could have imagined as recent reports indicate that the f.b.i. has sought to retrieve guns from thousands of people that the background check system should have blocked from buying a weapon. but who ultimately were allowed to do so. i think we can all agree that if we have a system through which people like the murderer in sutherland springs can buy a
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gun, or one in which thousands of people who should have never been allowed to buy a gun in the first place are able to do so, then we really have no system at all. today's bill, in part, would have been a good first step in addressing those weaknesses. but, mr. speaker, my republican colleagues in a fashion so common for their majority this congress have decided to sabotage a commonsense bipartisan bill by combining it of a reckless piece legislation that will allow guns to be carried all over this country. let us remember that the government -- of legislation that will allow guns to be gunman in texas was a known domestic abuser. he abused his wife, and he abused his child. under today's conceal carry,
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all we would have to do is change wife to girlfriend. and in some states he will be able to object tape a conceal carry permit for a handgun. should today's bill become law, he would then be allowed to bring that concealed handgun into your state even if your state does not allow convicted domestic abusers to have concealed weapons. for example, mr. speaker, the state that i'm privileged and represent, florida, stops abusive dating partners from carrying loaded hidden gun -- handguns in public. however, my friend from georgia's state, right over the border, does not have that same restriction. stops abusive dating partners from carrying loaded under this legislation, florida would be mandated to allow abusive dating partners with
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conceal permits from georgia to carry their weapons in florida. under h.r. 38, violent offenders and people with no firearm safety training would be able to carry hidden loaded guns even if they could not otherwise legally purchase a gun in the state. footnote right there, like my friend from georgia, i, too, have a concealed carry permit in the state of florida and i am a firm believer in the second amendment and a person's right to own a weapon. but i also think we should be discussing today matters such as the bump stock and there were amendments that dealt with that not made in order. i think we should be discussing assault weapons in the hands of the public and i for the life of me do not understand how anybody other than people in law enforcement and the military need an ak-47 or multiple firing
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gun. mr. speaker, this idea that we are presented with here is so terrible so anathema to common sense and decency, that one has to wonder, where did such an idea come from? well we have an answer and it's probably not too surmising. today's concealed carry bill is brought to you by the republican party by their very influential friends in the powerful gun lobby. footnote there. the gun lobby does the bidding of gun manufacturers who benefit immensely. why don't we just pass a mandate that every woman, man, and child in america must buy a gun and aybe that would satisfy, satiate, gun manufacturers with reference to how they
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continuously cause us to do things that are not common sense matters as it pertains to guns. in fact, this bill, which will allow domestic abusers to carry concealed weapons across state lines, is the top priority for the gun lobby. well, happy lol days, fellow, but we here on this side of the aisle are going to do everything that we can to make sure you don't get it. when this matter gets to the other body, i can assure my friend from georgia and all the speakers on either side today that it is going nowhere. so what are we doing by wring -- by bringing this measure in the first place? is it a distraction? is it a necessity that we do this? mr. speaker, just so we're crystal clear, what's happening right now in the people's house, let me reiterate, just over two months after a gunman killed 58 550 e and wounded nearly
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people in las vegas, and just over a month after another gunman killed 26 people in their church as they prayed this republican majority in response to those atrocities saw fit to bring to the floor a bill that would allow violent offenders to carry concealed weapons all oy across the country? let that sink in. this isn't the only time we've done something the along these lines. after sandy hook, after children were killed and their teachers were killed, we did nothing. virginia tech, where people were killed in significant numbers. at a military base there. in colorado in a theater. in orlando, florida, in a nightclub. repeatedly, we have seen these multiple shootings, mass shootings as they're referred to, where three or -- three or more people are killed, 330 time
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this is year alone, we've had mass shootings and yet we come here with a bill talking about carrying concealed weapons. every day in america, 93 people on average are killed with a gun. seven of them children. but in the midst of this gun violence epidemic, and that's what it is, what did my republican colleagues do? did they bring to the floor legislation to close the gun show loophole? or did they close loopholes to prevent domestic abusers from purchasing guns? or are they considering a ban on so-called bump stocks that turn semiautomatic weapon into illegal automatic guns? most recently used to rain carnage down on innocent concert-goers in las vegas. one country music singer pointed out that his band had legal guns
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but they were afraid to bring them out in las vegas because the authorities couldn't ferret out who was doing the shooting. we had that at a wal-mart that all of us saw post the gun shooting where people with guns caused confusion among the police. footnote, this bill proposes to study the issue of bump stocks. study. bump stocks. mr. speaker, we don't need a study. as my colleague, congresswoman deana titus who represents the city of las vegas, said last night in the rules committee, the only study we need is to go look at the 58 crosses in her district. that's what bump stocks do. that's your study. did my republican colleagues bring to the floor a bill that would have addressed any of these commonsense proposals? of course not. because even though those proposals have the support of an
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overwhelming majority of american people when it comes to guns, that is not what motivate misrepublican friends. what they care about is the gun lobby and gun manufacturers and their wish list. that is why we are here today. mr. speaker, my friends on the other side of the aisle likelike to compare a conceal carry permit to a driver's license. but met he -- but let me set the record straight because that comparison is nothing but a gross exercise in false equivalence. a driver's license must meet stringent, uniform, federal criteria, established under the rule i.d. act. this includes a photo of the license holder and data including their date of birth and their state of residence. there are absolutely no such uniform standards when it comes to concealed carry permits. in some states, they could look like a paper library card.
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in others, they may have photo identification. and there is no national database, no hotline that contains permit information from l 50 states, law enforcement would be in a position of having to find each individual issuing agency to verify that a concealed carry permit is valid. and that is impossible. my republican colleagues often tout their support for our first responders. well, i urge them to heed the warnings of those brave men and women. major law enforcement groups understand how dangerous this bill would be, and that is why so many of them oppose what the majority is trying to do here today. organizations like the major cities chiefs association. police foundation. and police executive research
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forum. all stand in strong opposition to today's bill. to make matters worse, this piece of legislation even exposes members of the law enforcement community to personal litigation if they mistakenly question someone's ability to carry a concealed weapon. mr. speaker this is not just some small issue limiting a law enforcement officer's ability to carry out their job. this limit on challenging concealed carry permits will cost lives. in fact a recent study conducted by stanford university found that when states weaken law enforcement's authority to deny permits to those who pose a danger to the community, violent crime goes up by 13% to 15%. this research is clear. convincing. and not at all difficult to fathom. when you lift limits on who can
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carry a concealed weapon, gun-related crime goes up. it's that simple. mr. speaker, among the many important issues this body must address, the following stand out. as of this moment, we are roughly 72 hours away from a government shutdown. we have 800,000 persons that we refer to as dreamers who continue to wait for us to do the right thing and bring them fully into the only country that they know as home. and we have nine million children and their parents facing an unconscionable lapse in life-saving funding for the incredibly important children's health insurance program. given all that, what does the republican controlled congress do? they bring a bill to the floor
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that will make it easier for domestic abusers to cross state lines with concealed weapons. this is shameful and no way to run a government. last night, i fought actively, too long, trying to go to sleep, about what the acronym g.o.p., grand old party, the conservatives, the states' rights conservatives. the fiscal conservatives who are about to dump a serious debt on our children should be called now by their acronym. rather than g.o.p. in light of the choice that they make with reference to guns, perhaps g.o.p. should stand for guns over people. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves his time.
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the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time it's my privethroge yield three minutes to the gentlelady from massachusetts, mrs. hartzler who has some language in this bill and i would like to thank her support of this legislation, and i yield three minutes to mrs. hartzler. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mrs. hartzler: today i rise in support of h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act, which bill, which reaffirms the second amendment rights of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms in every state, includes a a provision i introduced earlier this year as the police officers protecting children act. my provision would help protect our children from school shootings and empower local law enforcement to respond rapidly in the case of an emergency. mazz of you who represent rural areas know, in sparsely populated regions our local law thin.ement is stretched
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my amendment would allow off duty and retired police officerses to are carry firearms on school campuses to respond quickly in the case of a crisis. it would expand the reach of local police officers, decrease emergency response time and put more choice back in the hands of our local school districts. it's a win-win-win. as we've learned over and over, localities are much better equipped to know what works for their district rather than the federal government. in fact, the idea of my bill came from a constituent who is a retired police officer and served his community for 30 years. this gentleman came to me because he wasn't allowed to use his weapon to protect his grandchildren at school even though he had decades of experience and continued to pass an annual recertification test. additionally, the sheriff of a county in my district said not allowing current law enforcement officers or qualified retired law enforcement officers to carry weapons at schools simply
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puts children's lives at risk. i agree. i thank the judiciary committee for including my legislation in this important bill and i urge my colleagues to support the rule and the underlying bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: i'm pleased to yield to a very good friend of min -- of min, this -- of mine, the gentleman from new york, mr. engel. the speaker pro tempore: hutch time does the gentleman yield? how much time does the gentleman from florida yield to the gentleman? mr. hastings: one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. engel: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in opposition to h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act this dangerous bill is an attack on commonsense gun laws across the country. it will force states like mine in new york with carefully
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crafted gun laws to recognize a concealed carry permits from all other states this bill doesn't create a national standard, instead, it lets the states with the weakest laws dictate the safety of everyone else. 31 states require safety training. 35 states prohibit domestic abusers from carrying concealed weapons. 27 states prohibit people convicted of violent misdemeanors from carrying concealed weapons. all of these states' laws will be overridden if h.r. 38 passes. it's unconscionable in the week wake of two of the worst mass shootings in modern american history, republicans are still trying to dismantle gun laws. it's like alice in wonderland. we must fight on behalf of safety for all americans and pass comprehensive gun safety laws, not this dangerous bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. it's my privilege to yield three minutes to a fellow member of
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the judiciary committee, the gentleman from iowa, mr. king. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. king: i thank the gentleman from georgia for yielding. i rise in strong support of the underlying bill, h.r. 38, or maybe that's the lead bill and there's an underlying bill attached to it. i want to speak a little bit here, mr. speaker, about this process. first of all, though, we have a concealed carry bill before us that is a good and excellent bill, that's been hard work and well vetted. i want to thank mr. hudson, richard hudson, for his diligent work on this for a number of years. a year and a half or more ago, we had this bill about ready to go before the judiciary committee. i raised an issue my concern was it didn't allow for the proper respect for the states, seven then, 12 now, who have a legitimate constitutional carry which is, since you have a second amendment right you have a right to carry a weapon and under this bill now having incorporated amendment that i had prepared a year and a half or so ago that allows then for the residents of the state who
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was constitutional carry to then travel into other states if they're legally in their home state, they're legal in another state, under this bill without having to require the states that respect full constitutional carry to produce permits for their citizens and their residents to travel into neighbors states or anywhere in the country. i think that's a significant improvement and i thank mr. hudson for his cooperation and work on that. . i am concerned about this process. when i hear the gentleman, mr. hastings, speak this is the 54th closed rule we have seen. i want an open debate. i want to fight it out in committee and on the floor. the founding fathers set this system up today. they said to all of us, go to your district, pull the best interests, generate your good ideas, bring them here and compete in this marketplace of ideas. but if we don't have the window to compete with ideas, if we
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don't have the opportunity for debates, to force votes on amendments, then the best that america has to offer eventually doesn't show up in law or to the president's desk. this is one of those circumstances where we learned a bill that didn't have a number the morning that we marked this up in committee is now the fix nics bill. there was not a full opportunity to vet the fix nics bill. i am very apprehensive what it will do to this country. i'd like to have hearings and learn what kind of law-abiding citizens will be disadvantaged by the fix nics bill, whose names get on that and why, how do you get those names off when you need to be cleaning up the list. i want to have everybody on the list that belongs on the list but i don't want anybody that doesn't belong on the list on the list. i want to protect the american people and constitutional rights. we didn't get an opportunity to look into this. and anybody that brought an amendment to the rules committee that came to the floor under a closed rule and so i am.
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i am concerned. i'm apprehensive about this. in fact, when i look through these provisions, section 103, vicky hartzler's section of the bill, i strongly support. and section 104 -- could i ask for another 30 seconds? mr. collins: 15. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 15 seconds. mr. king: i support the section about the judges. i offered an amendment in committee that too many members weren't there, at least 10 republicans were gone, to protect congressional members of congress in the same way as the judges. we didn't have that opportunity to actually have a hearing on it in the committee, legitimate one, and we didn't have an opportunity to bring that amendment to the floor. i have this apprehension. i urge we get back to regular order and i thank the gentleman for yielding to me. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from georgia reserves. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, my friend from iowa, mr. king, had two amendments that were rejected last night in the rules committee. i join him in saying that we
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need to get back to regular order. mr. speaker, would you be so kind as to inform me and my friend from georgia how much ime we have remaining? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida has 11 3/4 minutes. the gentleman from georgia has 18 minutes. mr. hastings: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i am very pleased at this time to yield one minute to the gentlewoman from washington, ms. jayapal, a distinguished member of the judiciary committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. jayapal: thank you, mr. speaker. thank you for yielding. i rise in strong opposition to h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act. our country is still reeling, mr. speaker, from two of the worst mass shootings in modern american history. from the 58 people murdered in las vegas to the 25 killed in a texas church, how can we he face the families of these people and say that this bill is the best we could do?
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studies show that states with laws permitting concealed carry experience an estimated 13% to 15% increase in violent crime than there would have been without the right to carry laws. but we don't need academic studies, mr. speaker, to know this bill is wrong. we just need to look at real people. one of my constituent's sisters was shot in las vegas and survived. she's one of the lucky ones. they won't have any empty spots at the holiday table this year because they lost someone to gun violence. over 14,000 americans, including parents of nearly 700 children, are not as fortunate, and my heart goes out to them, especially as we enter the holiday season. today we have a critical opportunity to say enough is enough, and i strongly urge my colleagues to stop this heinous bill from moving forward. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i yield four minutes to the gentleman from michigan, fine member who is a
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strong supporter of this bill, appreciated, and we recognize him now four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for four minutes. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in support of the concealed carry reciprocity act and the underlying rule. the second amendment right to bear arms must stand resolute as should all our constitutional rights. mr. mitchell: this legislation simply affirms the right of law-abiding citizens to exercise their right in other states as they do at home. 42 states broadly recognize the right of law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns and most states allow some form of concealed carry. state recognition of concealed carry licenses from other states is not uniform or consistent. those who wish to carry a concealed weapon across state lines is subject to confusing patchwork of state laws that make it difficult for law-abiding citizens to travel with a firearm without fear of prosecution. mr. speaker, contrary to contractics who have you believe this legislation does
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not up-end state laws or expand access to firearms. states will still have the right and the ability to set specific conditions for residents to conceal carry and individuals from other states must abide by those laws and rules when they carry in other states. this legislation does not lessen limitations on gun purchases. if you are prohibited from purchasing a firearm now, they will continue to be prohibited a firearm if this bill is passed. if you can't legally own or carry a firearm today, this legislation will not allow you to do so after it is passed. this legislation is about respecting your constitution. our other constitutional rights like free speech do not expire when we cross state lines, they are not restricted by state lines. so why should we also allow the second amendment to be limited by state lines? indeed, the core of the second amendment is self-defense and the ability to carry a firearm outside your home is a critical
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component of that constitutional right. that is why 24 states' attorney generals, including michigan's attorney general submitted a letter supporting this legislation. they know like i do that this legislation is common sense. it prioritizes the rights of law-abiding citizens to conceal carry and the ability to travel freely from state to state without worry about conflicting state laws and prosecution. mr. speaker, each of us takes an oath of office. in that oath we swear to uphold and defend our constitution, the constitution of the united states. that's what this legislation exactly does. it makes sure it exercises our constitutional rights throughout the united states. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle questions proceeding with this legislation while funding for the federal government hangs in the balance in the next 72 hours. i agree. we must keep the lights on. we are all responsible for keeping the lights on.
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in the past there has been a bipartisan agreement. suddenly the other side of the aisle says if we don't get exactly what we want on terms we have, including on daca, we'll take it to the precipice. a solution on daca is there if my colleagues wish to take it. at this point so far they haven't. but there are some things that aren't malleable. there's right and there's wrong in this. i suggest we solve it in the next 72 hours and we keep the lights on because we are all equally responsible for that. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from georgia reserves his time. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, i'm very pleased to yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from oregon, my good friend who is a member of the ways and means committee, mr. blumenauer. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. blumenauer: thank you. why should the united states of america be the only rich
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country in the world that cannot protect our families from gun violence? it doesn't have to be this way. in fact, there are a number of states that have enacted gun safety protections, and in those states that have done so there are fewer gun deaths and there are fewer gun injuries. my state of oregon is one of those that has enacted them in part because of votes of the people, not politicians. this proposal would strip away protections of oregonians because there are 12 states that basically, if you're 21 and have a pulse, you can carry a firearm. others have much less restrictive proposals. this eliminates the ability of states to protect its own citizens. it's shameful. it's wrong. someday congress will come to its senses and enact reasonable
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gun safety legislation for the country, but until we do, for heaven's sakes, don't punish states that have accepted their responsibility to protect their families. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves -- from florida reserves his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. at this time i'd like to yield two minutes to my colleague from georgia, drew ferguson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. ferguson: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in support of h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act. as a life-long gun owner and staunch advocate for protecting our second amendment rights, i'm proud to co-sponsor this legislation. h.r. 38 would protect law-abiding gun owners with concealed carry permits like the single mother of pennsylvania. many of you have heard this story i know the author of this bill, mr. hudson, has told this story many times where mst allen was arrested in new jersey during a routine traffic stop because her valid
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pennsylvania concealed carry license had no legal standing in new jersey. our constitutional protected second amendment rights should not stop at a state line. this commonsense bill would ensure the concealed carry permits holder rights to carry across allstate lines exist. t will allow georgia's 600,000 concealed carry holder. and states will report those to the f.b.i. national instant criminal background system, otherwise known as the nics system. this would not put an additional burden on law-abiding gun owners or make it harder for them to purchase a firearm. makes shurs that agencies a advancing the law. i support this legislation and urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this rule and the bill. thank you, mr. speaker.
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i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from georgia reserves his time. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i'm pleased to yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from north carolina, my good friend, mr. price. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. price: mr. speaker, the bill before us creates a dangerous race to the bottom, forcing states to accept concealed carry permits from all other states regardless of their training standards, their background check system, or their safety requirement. make no mistake, this bill would make it easier to cross state lines with hidden loaded weapons, threatening local communities by making it harder for law enforcement to determine who's lawfully carrying a firearm. no wonder this was, police chiefs, other law enforcement agencies oppose this bill. what a shame it is that after the terrible mass shootings in las vegas and texas the first gun-related bill this house considers would actually make it easier for dangerous people to carry concealed weapons in more places.
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mr. speaker, these tragedies aren't inevitable. they are the result of policy choices. we could be working together to enact commonsense measures, to respond to the gun violence epidemic facing our country. but as long as our republicans are beholden to n.r.a. extremism, these proposals, i'm afraid, will fall on deaf ears. i urge my colleagues to reject this shameful proposal, work instead to address the root causes of gun violence in this country. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida reserves his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: thank you, mr. speaker. this time it's also my privilege to yield two minutes to the gentleman from augusta, georgia, rick allen. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. allen: all right. thanks to my colleague and, mr. speaker, i rise today to urge my colleagues to support h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act. since i was elected to congress in 2014, i have been devoted to preserving the constitutional
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rights of americans, including the inalienable right to bear arms. despite our second amendment protections, many states have laws restricting the ability of citizens to carry concealed weapons. principally out-of-state residents. this is particularly confusing and burdensome for law-abiding citizens who choose to conceal carry and live near a state line. for example, the district i represent borders south carolina on the savannah river, but many of my constituents, the closest grocery store, bank and even their work may be in south carolina. thankfully for my constituents, georgia and south carolina already have firearm permit reciprocity, but this is not the case everywhere. as the law currently stands, americans in other states are losing their right to bear arms on a daily basis simply because they live near a state line.
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just as your right to free speech doesn't change from one state to another, neither should your right to protect yourself and your family. i hope my colleagues will see this and join me in voting for this commonsense legislation to solve this problem. with that, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: i'm privileged to yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from new jersey, my good friend, mr. pascrell. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. pascrell: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise as co-chair of law enforcement in the congress of the united states this bill is terrible. concealed carry reciprocity act should not be voted on. as a may issue state, new jersey allows local law enforcement the discretion on issuing concealed carry permits. in order to receive a permit, applicants must demonstrate an urgent need to carry a concealed weapon, pass a safety course on
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par with firearms training required of police officers. h.r. 38 would undermine the good reputations of new jersey as -- has in place by forcing new jersey and other states to recognize the concealed carry standards from every other state even if the regulations are weak or nonexistent. allowing state it is with the weakest concealed carry requirements to set the national standard creates a race to the bottom. aside from the outrageous fact that house republicans are pushing a bill to weaken states rights, this bill makes it harder for local law enforcement to do their jobs. this bill does not establish a process for officers to easily verify that someone is carrying lawfully because officers would be essentially required to know the permitting standards of every state. a heavy and unnecessary burden, mr. speaker. most alarm, the bill opens up
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aw enforcement -- i yield. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: at this time it's my privilege to recognize the gentlelady from wyoming, liz chaney, for such time as the she may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. chaney: i rise in support of the rule for consideration of h.r. 38, and the underlying bill, the concealed carry reciprocity act. second amendment protects the individual right of american citizens to keep and bear arms. ms. chaney: this is a fund -- ms. cheney: this is a fundamental right in our republic. we know this is a god-given right endeadlined -- enshrined in our constitution, which is why wyoming is a constitutional carry state. wyoming is not alone in this constitution-based conviction. across the country, mr. speaker, 42 states broadly recognize the right of law-abiding citizens to
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carry concealed handguns. further, all 50 states allow some form of concealed carry. and many states, but not all, mr. speaker, already recognize the gun laws of other states. however, mr. speaker, those traveling through or living on the border of a state that does not recognize their home state's laws could have their gun rights stripped when they cross state lines. that's wrong, mr. speaker. this puts otherwise law-abiding citizens in a situation where they may be criminally liable for simply carrying out their constitutional rights to -- right to keep and bear arms. the constitutional rights of the united states citizens should not change or end at state lines, mr. speaker. the concealed carry reciprocity act ensures the rights of law-abiding citizens to travel across state lines without worrying about the conflicting
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tax work of state concealed carry laws or regulations. this bill is crucial to protecting our constitutional right. therefore, mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to support this rule and the underlying bill and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from massachusetts, my friend, mr. mulder. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mulder: thank you, mr. speaker. 26. that's how many people were gunned down at a texas church. 59. that's how many were murdered at concert in las vegas. 489. that's how many law-abiding americans were injured in that same attack. ladies and gentlemen, it's been weeks after those shootings and we haven't taken a single action in the united states congress. stop the gun
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violence epidemic plaguing america. instead, republican leadership is pushing a bill with blood money from the n.r.a. that will create a race to the bottom where states with the weakest concealed carry requirements will rewrite the laws for everyone else. meanwhile, we all know there are bipartisan bills that will reduce gun deaths, including my bill to ban bump stocks. those bills have been denied a vote. mr. speaker, we have lived through too many massacres and at this rate, i garne tee we will live through more. let's stop this nonsense and work together on commonsense solutions. the majority of americans want. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves. the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: i'm pleased to yield one minute to the
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gentleman from rhode island, my good friend, mr. langevin. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. langevin: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i rise in strong opposition to h.r. 38, which unconscionably combines needed reform to improve background checks with a wholesale abandonment of sanity with respect to gun permitting. the fix nics act would improve notification about criminal activity for background checks which i strongly support, a system that tragically failed prior to the texas shooting. this is tied to the concealed carry reciprocity act which would endanger millions of americans and undermine well-established state laws with respect to con sealed carry. my home state of rhode island has strong, sensible procedures for getting a concealed carry permit. in rhode island you must be at
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least 21 years old, trained in gun safety and must have just cause to carry a concealed weapon. domestic abusers are not eligible. h.r. 38 would override these commonsense laws, putting our residents at risk. it would allow anyone denied a permit in rhode island to permit shop in states with weaker laws and would allow residents of states with weaker requirements to carry freely in our neighborhoods. mr. speaker, gun violence is an epdepem nick this country. we should not be taking steps to put more guns on our streets. i urge my colleagues to heed the warnings of law enforce. officers and reject this dangerous bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves. the gentleman from georgia. reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: i yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from colorado, mr. perlmutter. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. perlmutter: thank you, mr. speaker, mr. hastings. i can't think of a more
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breathtaking display of nerve or brass than what the republican majority is doing with this bill. after the tragedies we offered -- we suffered in las vegas and orlando, aurora, colorado that i represented, to race to the bottom to have the easiest laws, and no offense to georgia but georgia has no business and no right to tell colorado what its laws concerning the health, safety, and welfare of coloradans should be. under the 10th amendment. instead of taking up real legislation on assault weapons or bump stocks that make those assault weapons machine guns, that mowed down all those people in las vegas, we're saying no. whatever state has the weakest, most lax gun laws, that state is going to criminal all the other states. that's wrong.
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that's unconstitutional. and this bill should be rejected right here and right now and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves. the gentleman from georgia reserves his time. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: if we defeat the previous question i'll offer an amendment to the rule to bring up h.r. 3440, the dream act. mr. speaker a group of 34 of my republican colleagues sent a let they are week to speaker ryan urging a vote before the year's end on legislation that would protect daca recipients. i ask unanimous consent to include that in the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. hastings: i ask unanimous consent to insert the text of my amendment in the record along with extraneous material immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. hastings: and to discuss our proposal, i yield one and a half minutes to the gentleman from arizona. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. grijalva: i thank my
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esteemed colleague for yielding. each day that congress delays action on the dream act, 122 people lose their temporary protected status granted by daca. since the trump september 5 announcement, 11,182 young people have lost their daca status and face a daily threat of being detained and deported. time and time again house democrats have pleaded to republicans and their leadership the urgency of finding a legislative solution that will permanently protect dreamers. we have pleaded and explained the economic benefit, $23 billion yearly contributed by dreamers to the g.d.p. of the nation. we have pleaded with the leadership, republican leadership to bring the dream act to the house floor that is just and fair without the trap offings xenophobea, division, or hate. we have pleaded that dreamers have not committed a crime, it was not an act of volition on their part as children.
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we must move beyond the political calculations about race, us versus them divisions in this country, and scapegoating this ehose tissue the house has an opportunity and the authority to vote on a clean dream act and embrace the shared value and humanity of the nation while rejecting the political, manufactured hysteria. i ask for a no on the previous question so h.r. 3440 can come to the house floor and i yelled back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from florida reserves. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: i do reserve but i do ask the gentleman from florida, how many more speakers? you do not? i guess we're about ready to close if the gentleman from florida is ready. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, i've watched this year as members of the republican majority have worked diligently to repeople the affordable care act. which would have been a failure for the american people but
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great for special interests. i've watched members in the republican majority work relentlessly to push a tax scam bill through this body that will certainly be a failure for the american people but great for corporate america and the ultra wealthy. i've watched members of the republican majority here today and yesterday in the rules committee champion a bill that will be a failure for the american people, especially survivors of domestic violence but great for the powerful corporate gun lobby and gun manufacturers. i sense a theme. for my friends across the aisle. and it's a shameful one. mr. speaker, our country faces a gun violence epidemic. and we here in congress should be doing all that we can to put it to an end. the opportunity to pass a bipartisan measure to strengthen our background check system has presented itself.
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but apparently the majority, without hairings, would rather drown bipartisanship in the dirty watters of the corporate gun lobby and gun manufacturer. i've said it before and i'll say it again here today. those who stand in the way of legislation that will address our country's gun violence epidemic are increasingly culpable for its needless continuation. and that's why i dubbed and gave the acronym, g.o.p., guns other people. i guess i should have used the acronym, good old puppets of the gun lobby and gun manufacturers. i urge a ♪ no vote on the rule and underlying bill and yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: mr. speaker, i do appreciate the time we have today. i do appreciate my friend from florida. we have many lively debates on the floor and many lively
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debates in rules committee. but you know if you really want to see things going in really a tone and the nor on this floor, let's get back to saying there are ideas we agree with and ideas we disagree with. there are ideas of taking a constitutional right and bling able to apply that in a concealed carry reciprocity act which is what we're talking about, irregardless of who might find that appealing, that's a constitutional right we're fighting for. but in this regard of of saying puppets, the moment that a group who enjoys killing babies says you need to make sure that right is available, then my friends across the aisle are quick to jump their strings to say yes, i want to do that. when they wanted to have government control more health care they also said but our insurance companies we need to have a position for them in which they're taken care of, i guess that was another puppet string, mr. speaker. i think the bottom line is, let's quit.
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knowing that many of us on both sides, we have our positions. we have people who like our positions on both sides whether they be democrat or republican. but one of the reasons that the american people are very frustrated with this body is because the tone and the nor is not on policy which we candice agree on, it is who controls the other. if we wanted to lay out a laundry list of supporters of the democratic party and maybe supporters of the republican party and say that's all that matters, then fine, if we've denigrated to that, so be it but shame on us. whether you want reciprocity or not, good. argue it. whether you want to have another thing about tax reform and you believe tax reform could be done a different way, argue it. but when we denigrate out to who is puppets and who is not, then we're also racing to the bottom. we're racing to the bottom of the civil discourse that the american people are tired of. look at the last election.
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so when i look at this today, mr. speaker, i look at a bill -- and we also heard interesting things that was said saying, officers will be in trouble and possibly can be sued. look, what language was put in the bill, they are protected from suit. what they're not protected from is unlawful arrest or unlawful time, then they will be held liable. or maybe it's also been said, we will turn all these concealed carry permit owners like myself and my friend from florida, we are going to turn them loose on the country and terrible things are going to happen. may i remind us here on the floor that florida, which has issued nearly two million permits, have only revoked 168 due to gun crimes committed by permit holders. that's .008%. the fact that concealed carry permit holders are generally more law abiding than the general public. we can disagree, mr. speaker, and that's part of this body.
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we can come to different conclusions. that's the reason we have a debate floor. but when we start to try and bring in other things and who's controlled by who, then i just simply, mr. speaker, ask that the other side cut their strings first. with that i yield back the balance of my time and i move the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. moves the previous question. the question is on ordering the previous question on the resolution. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. mr. hastings: mr. speaker, i ask for the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman asks for the yeas and nays. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, further proceedings on this uestion will be postponed.
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for what purpose does the gentleman from texas, mr. green, seek recognition? mr. green: mr. speaker, i rise to a question of privilege of the house and offer the resolution that was previously noticed? the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: resolved, that donald john trump, president of the united states, is unfit to be president and is impeached for high misdemeanors and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the senate. articles of impeachment exhibited by the house of representatives to the united states in the name of itself and of the people of the united states against donald john trump, president of the united states and maintenance and support of his impeachment against him for high misdemeanors committed as president constituting harm to american society, to the manifest injury of the people of the united states. article 1, in his capacity as president of the united states, unmindful of the high duties of his high office, and the
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dignity and proprieties thereof and of the harmony and courtesies necessary for facility within the society of the united states, donald john trump with his statements have done more than insult individuals and groups of americans, gives harm to society of the united states, brought shame and dishonor to the office of the president of the united states, sewing discord among the people of the united states by associating the majesty and dignity of the presidency with causes rooted in white supremacy, bigotry, racism, anti-semitism, white nationalism or neo-nazism or one or more of the following occasions. on august 15, 2017, donald john trump made a widely published statement characterizing a group of anti-semithes, big ots, racists, white tionalists and ku klux klansmen as very fine people. hate groups returned to
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charlottesville, to the statue of robert e. lee chanting, "you will not replace us." since this event on october 7, the president has made many statements like one by the national football league but has not condemned the hate groups for returning to the place where an innocent person lost her life at the hands of ate. the video's purported to show various violent acts committed by muslims and were entitled "muslim my grant beats up dutch boy on crutches. muslim destroys a statue of virgin marry. an islamist mob pushes teenage boy off root and beats him to death." . the intent of the post was to demonstrate the alleged propensity of muslim my grants, immigrants to engage in violent cts.
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sharing these with his followers on twitter, donald john trump has intent to create division within american society. in all of this the aforementioned donald john trump by his statements, unmindful of his duties of high office and the dignities and proprieties thereof and of the harmony, respect and courtesies necessary for stability within the society of the united states has undermined the integrity of his office. has sown discord among the people of the united states. has brought ridicule, disgrace n the presidency, has acted in a manner anti-theycal to society and has betrayed his trust as president to the manifest to the people ofs the united states and committed a high misdemeanor in office. therefore, donald john trump, by causing such harm to the
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society of the united states is unfit to be president and warrants impeachment, trial and removal from office. article 2, of the harmony and respect necessary for stability within the society of the united states donald john trump has done more than simply insult individuals and groups of americans. he has harmed the american society by publicly casting contempt on individuals and groups, inciting hate and hostility, sewing discord on the basis of race, national origin, gender and sexual orientation on one or more of the following occasions. on january 27, 2017, donald john trump issued executive order 13769 providing for a partial shutdown of immigration formerly mainly muslim countries to fulfill a campaign
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promise that read as follows -- donald john trump statement, new york, new york, december , -- donald 7, 2015, "donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our countrys representatives can figure out what is going on. after consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised that the united states government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the military. our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with a tremendous medical cost and disruption that transgender in the military would entail and thereby casting contempt on
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transgender individuals, inciting hate and hostility, sewing discord. on september 23, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows -- wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, get that son of a b-i- tmbingeds c-h off of the -- b-i-t-c-h off the field. e's fired, he's fired. cagsing contempt on the professional players, mothers, by calling them b-i-t-c-h-e-s, effectively calling these mothers dogs. thereby inciting hate and hostility and sewing discord among the people of the united states on the basis of race and gender. on september 30, 2017, donald john trump made a public
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statement as follows. they want everything to be done for them when it should be community effort. in the aftermath of hurricane marina, thereby casting contempt on puerto ricans citizens and sewing discord among the people of the united states based on national origin and race. on october 3, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement as follows -- i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack because we spent a lot of money on puerto rico. that's fine. e've saved a lot of lives. but he did not make similar widely published comments about texas or florida. treating the puerto rican citizens of the united states thereby casting contempt on puerto ricans insay thing height and hostility and ensewing discord among the people of the united states based on national origin and race. on october 19, 2017, donald
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john trump made a public statement as follows -- the fake news is going crazy with wacky congresswoman wilson, d, who is secretly on a very personal call and gave a total lie on content. thereby casting contempt on an african-american member of congress inciting hate and hostility and sewing discord among the people of the united states based on gender and race. on october 21, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows -- i hope the fake news media keeps talking about wacky congresswoman wilson and she as a representative is killing the democratic party thereby casting contempt on an african-american female member of congress, inciting hate and hostility and sewing discord on the people of the united states based on gender and race. on october 22, 2017, donald john trump made a public statement substantially as follows -- wacky congresswoman wilson is a gift that keeps on
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giving for the republican party. a disaster for dems. you watch her in action and vote r, thereby casting contempt on an african-american female member of congress inciting hate and hostility and sewing discord among the people of the united states based on gender and race. in all of this the aforementioned donald john trump has by his statements brought the high office of the president of the united states in contempt, ridiculed, disgraced and disrefute, has sown discord among the people of the united states, has demonstrated that he is unfit to be president, has betrayed his trust to the president of the united states to the manifest injury of the people of the united states and has committed a high misdemeanor in office. therefore, donald john trump is causing such harm to this society of the united states, is unfit to be president, warrants impeachment, trial, and removal from office.
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the speaker pro tempore: the resolution qualifies. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i move to lay the resolution on the table. the speaker pro tempore: the question son the motion offered by the gentleman from -- is on the motion offered by the gentleman from california. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. mr. green: mr. speaker, i request a roll call vote. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman ask for the yeas and nays? mr. green: the gentleman does. the speaker pro tempore: the yeas and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yeas and nays will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes y electronic device. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, this 15-minute vote on laying the resolution on the table will be followed by five-minute votes on ordering the previous question on house resolution 645, adopting house resolution 645, if ordered, and suspending the rules and passing senate 1266. this is a 15-minute vote.
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the speaker pro tempore: on his vote the yeas are 365.
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 364. the nays are 58 with four voting present. the motion is adopted, without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the unfinished business is the vote on ordering the previous question on house resolution 645 on which the yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the resolution. the clerk: house calendar number 107, house resolution 645, resolution providing for consideration of the bill h.r. 38, to amend title 18, united states code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a state whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the state. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on ordering the previous question. members will record their votes by electronic device.
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ordered. the question is on adoption of the resolution. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. >> i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote is requested, those in favor of a recorded vote will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: senate 1266 an act to authorize the secretary of veterans affairs to enter into contracts with nonprofit organizations to investigate medical centers of the department of veterans affairs. the speaker pro tempore: the question is, will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 423. the nays are zero. 2/3 having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed, and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.
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for what purpose does the gentleman from ohio seek recognition? >> thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent that my name be removed as a co-sponsor f h.r. 3524. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia seek recognition? mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, pursuant to house resolution 645, i call up the bill h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017, and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: union calendar number 320, h.r. 38, a bill to amend title 18, united states code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a state whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the state. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to house resolution 645, in lieu of the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the committee on the judiciary printed in the bill, an amendment in the
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nature of a substitute consisting of the text of rules committee print 115-45, is adopted, and the bill, as amended, is considered as read. the bill shall be debatable for one hour equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking member of the committee on the judiciary. the gentleman from virginia, mr. goodlatte, and the gentleman from new york, mr. nadler, each will control 30 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and tend their remarks and include extraneous materials on h.r. 38. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. goodlatte: i rise in strong support of h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017. the speaker pro tempore: the ouse will be in order.
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the gentleman may resume. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, throughout my career in elected office, i believed in and adhered to two fundamental principles regarding firearms policy. first, the right guaranteed to law-abiding americans by the second amendment must be aggressively protected and preserved. second, the laws we have on the books need to be enforced to the fullest extent possible. the bipartisan bill before us today does both. h.r. 38 ensures that law-abiding citizens' second amendment right does not end when they cross state lines. mr. speaker, the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. please take all conversations to the cloakrooms or off the floor. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: the bill allows
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law-abiding gun owners with valid state issued concealed carry firearm permits to -- or those who live in so-called constitutional carry states, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state that also allows conceal carey. we know citizens who carry a concealed firearm are not only better prepared to act in their own self-defense but also in the defense of others. take, for instance, an incident that occurred just last november on a highway in florida. lee county sheriff's deputy dean bards had just concluded a high-speed chase just off interstate 75. as deputy bards approached to apprehend the suspect, the suspect, edward struther, violently attacked the deputy. a witness on the scene told reporters that the attacker just started punching him and hitting and hitting. i was afraid for the police officer. i thought he was going to kill him. fortunately, for deputy bards,
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aschad russell, a concealed carry permit holder, saw this. he approached the altercation. he told struther he would shoot him if he did not stop beating the deputy. the state attorney's office said struther ignored russell's commands to stop beating the deputy so he fired him three times, hitting and fatally wounding the assailant. he is harolded a hero. this bill also contains the fix nics act of 2017. this is a bipartisan and bicameral measure. the fix nics act takes steps to ensure that state and federal agencies enter all relevant records into the f.b.i.'s national instant criminal background system. this bill will help ensure people who are legally prohibited from having guns, like those with violent felony convictions, do not obtain them. the shooting at virginia tech and the church shootings in charleston, south carolina, and
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sutherland springs, texas, are tragic reminders of what can happen when all relevant records are not entered into the system. our nics system is only as good as the information within it. this important piece of legislation will ensure that more of the information already required to be uploaded to nics under current law is actually placed in the nics system. taken together, the concealed carry reciprocity act and the fix nics act preserve and protect the right guaranteed to us by the second amendment and ensure that those prohibited by existing law from receiving a firearm are prevented from doing so. i urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this legislation. i want to thank the lead sponsor, mr. hudson of north carolina, for his hard work on this bill, and i would also like to thank the authors of the fix nics provisions, mr. culberson and mr. cuellar, for their important contributions
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to the legislation before us today. and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. : thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in strong opposition to the concealed carry reciprocity act. this bill would not protect us from gun violence but would make us far less safe. under current law, each state makes its own determination about who may carry a concealed firearm in public, including deciding which other states concealed carry permits to recognize. this bill would eviscerate the core public safety determination that each states makes concerned kerning the concealed carrying of guns in public based on the unique circumstances of each state and the desires by its citizens.
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31 states and d.c. require gun safety training to carry concealed guns in public. 21 of those states require live fire training. they prohibit people with misdemeanor prohibit. and prohibit stalkers from carrying concealed guns. 34 states and d.c. prohibit those under 21 years of age from carrying concealed guns. many states prohibit gun possession and conceal carry by abusive dating partners, exceeding federal protections against abusive spouses. all of these states would have their carefully considered laws overridden by this bill. the obvious solution to the varying state laws is to continue to do what it's currently done by many states which is to choose which other state permits they will recognize. some states, including my state of new york, have chosen not to
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recognize permits issued by any other state. most states, however, have chosen to recognize permits from at least some other states. basing the choice on the strength and standards employed by the other states. we should not disregard these determinations which is what this bill would do. instead, this bill would say that every state must under the concealed carry permit of every ther state. and what this bill would do in effect is to say that if new york or illinois have strict requirements for concealed carry and someone comes in from a state that doesn't, they have to let that person have concealed carry in their state. in effect, it uses the power of the federal government to import the laws of one state and make them enforceable in the other state. in addition, i'm deeply disappointed that the version of this bill before us today includes the bipartisan fix nics
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act, a measure that should be enacted as a stand-alone bill without delay and that was supported by the judiciary committee. that bill would address shortcomings with the national criminal background system. as the recent mass chooting at the church in texas illustrates, we must ensure all relevant records are submitted to the data bases. no one should pass a background check that he or she should have iled was not included in the system. there is broad bipartisan support for the fix nics bill here in the house ap the senate. that proposal which would actually save lives should not be intelligentered to the reciprocity provisions of this bill which would serve to endanger our citizens. he answer is not having people
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carrying concealed permits. on some other countries, this figure barely exceeds 100. in 2011, the united kingdom had 146 deaths, denmark, 71. japan, just 30, the united states over 30,000. the study in the american journal of medicine compared to 22 countries, the gun murder rate in the united states is 25 times higher. the -- the lack of such easy availability of guns. our country is awash in guns and we have the shameful death toll toe show for it. we need to adopt meaningful legislation that strengthens our gun laws and we must not undermine the efforts of states to defend their citizens against these arms. the dangers posed by the concealed carry reciprocity of is bill greatly outweigh the
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benefits. i oppose this bill and urge my colleagues to reject it. i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: i yield four minutes to the lead sponsor of the legislation, the gentleman hudson.th carolina, mr. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hudson: let me tell you a story, a story about an african-american single mother, two kids living in south philly, after twice being the victim of muggings, she decided to go out and purchase a legal firearm to protect herself and gets trained and applies for a concealed carry permit. sometime thereafter, she crossed the state line into new jersey and in a routine traffic stop did what she was trained, handed her driver's license and
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concealed carry permit and let him know she had a pistol in her purse. the state of new jersey doesn't recognize the concealed carry permits of their neighbor in pennsylvania. so this poor single mother, who never had a brush with the law spent almost 50 days in jail and was looking at 10 years in prison. are you serious? we have to make sure that never happens again. the other side today is going to argue that we are violating states' rights but the full faith and credit clause of the constitution says every state should give full faith and credit of documents of every other state and the congress has the responsibility to determine how those documents are recognized. a driver's license is recognized. if i get married in north carolina and move to arizona, i'm not a single marn.
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that's why divorce decrees are recognized. the concealed carry permit should be recognized the same way. but this is not trampling states' rights because states can determine and set any limits about how weapons are carried in their municipalities or their states. for example, if you visit the state of new york, they have a limit on the size of the magazine on a pistol. you have to follow that law. if they want to set restrictions about places where you can't carry, even with this legislation, that law would have to be followed. the states retain this right just like a driver's license. the other side is going to stand up and claim all kinds of doom day's scenarios and increase crime and increase the number of weapons and turn cities into the wild west. we are being lectured from people from big cities that have
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some of the worst crime in the nation and worried about people coming from other places where we don't have crime. but the truth is over half the states already recognize the permits of every other states. 19 states already do this. states and municipalities as i mentioned, retain the right to restrict where guns are carried even under this legislation. and if you look at the empirical evidence places where you have concealed carry and constitutional carry, when you instituted this right, violent crime went down. gun crime went down and seen less crime, not more crime. there's actually a study done in florida and texas and showed off-duty police officers commit crimes more than concealed permit holders. police officers don't commit crimes very often. these are not the people we are
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worried about. these are not the vial ent criminals that we are worried about in our cities. this is a commonsense measure that upholds our constitutional right and makes sure that a law-abiding citizen doesn't become a criminal simply because they cross that line. for every american who exercises their second amendment right, this is your day. for 15 million concealed carry permit holders out there, today is your day and the single mothers out there who want to protect themselves and their families, today is your day. i thank the chairman for his leadership on this. i ask my colleagues to join me in voting for this commonsense legislation. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield three minutes to the distinguished
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gentlelady from texas, the ranking member of the crime subcommittee, ms. jackson lee. the speaker pro tempore: the entlelady is recognized. ms. jackson lee: let me thank the ranking member for yielding. and let me say that the problems that my good friend just mentioned on the floor can be solved by real sensible gun safety legislation. unfortunately h.r. 38 is not that. and it is not that because it has ignored the pleas of law enforcement and it has ignored the rational addition of amendments that would save lives. h.r. 38 is dangerous and reckless and secretly packaged a fix to gun violence by instead
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and laced with lethal elements of catastrophic proportion. in the midnight hour it deals with the background checks with the concealed carry reciprocity. that is patently unfair, mr. speaker. then it would not allow reasonable amendment exposing victims of domestic violence and expose them to victims of domestic violence, to stalkers and those who have been involved in domestic violence, to gun violence or death, will entice those who perpetrate hate crimes or add to the alarming death rate. where we could have fixed the nics act, it does not do that. 556 women have be murdered alone by intimate partners. my amendment would have been made it safer.
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didn't want to have it. other 14 sensible amendments were blocked. 4.9 million have been threatened by abusers. hate kimes, those worshippers in charleston, south carolina were killed by a person who came there with hate. my amendment dealing with not allowing someone convicted of a hate crime, even though they say that it is the federal law, why not have it in this underlying bill where so many people are killed. let me give you an example, under the brady campaign, 114994 americans are killed by guns including those at las vegas and pull -- pulse nightclub and those who mentioned in charles lotville and sandy hook. 17,000 children are gunned down by guns. 12 states have an open carry law with no rules. that means if you are in
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washington where heads of state and other dignitaries come and someone can come on the street. do we even listen to police officers? the major chiefs association has indicated that they are opposed to h.r. 38 because it will require those making legitimate legal stops as law enforcement officers seeking to come home to their families, being subjected to individuals whose documents they may not know are credible or whether they are fraudulent or whether these individuals legitimately should have a gun. i can't understand why this is not understood. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. ms. jackson lee: it is usually understood we respect the contusion nationality of states. it is a bad bill and ignores sovereignty and should vote it down because people are murdered by guns without safety regulations. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i yield myself 15
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seconds and will submit for the record an article good samaritan kills active shooter in sports bar in which a shooter with two guns and two knives entered a sports bar and was shot by an individual that the police labeled a good samaritan who happened to be eating at the restaurant and he was a concealed carry permit holder and told his wife to get down on the ground and shot the assailant. it will be inserted into the record. mr. goodlatte: it's my pleasure to yield to the chairman of the crime subcommittee of the house judiciary committee, mr. sensenbrenner, three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. sensenbrenner: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i'm pleased h.r. 38 as amended includes the fix nics act. i have long supported nics. nics is about saving lives and protecting people from harm by preventing guns from falling
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into the wrong hands. it does this without interfering in the timely transfer of firearms to eligible gun buyers. i was the original co-sponsor of the brady handgun violence prevention act of 1993 and worked diligently for its passage. i strongly supported this bill because it makes sense to prevent convicted felons and individuals judged to be menlt tallly ill of obtaining guns. i insisted on the inclusion of a nics program. under this system, fire arms' dealers uses the nics system to cross reference with a known convicted felons, drug users, illegal aliens and those convicted of domestic violence. as i have indicate -- stated many times, the nics system is only as good as the records put into it and people who would not get a gun and buy guns.
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after the recent shooting in sutherland springs, texas, us air force disclosed that it failed to report the man's history of domestic violence to the data base, which should have prevented him from purchasing a firearm in the first place. this legislation will provide a much needed push to speed implementation in conducting bab ground checks. at the federal level and would require cooperation in providing relevant records to the attorney general for inclusion into the nics. it holds federal agencies accountable if they fail to upload relevant records to the background system. by prohibiting bonus pay for political pay. at the state level it will incentive advise them to make sure reporting is up to date by giving grants to states which comply. let me be clear, this bill is
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not about expanding background checks. this is about ensuring that the existing law is working. there are strong bipartisan support for improving what has become the systemic problem of missing information in the data base. accurate reporting is essential to ensuring that the system works as intended and i urge my colleagues to support this legislation and yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: before i recognize the gentlelady from connecticut, i recognize the gentlelady from texas for a unanimous consent request. ms. jackson lee: i ms. jackson lee: mr. speaker, i'd like to put in the record, ask unanimous consent, good guys can guns can be dangerous too. don't gut concealed carry law, why is congress about to vote to loosen gun laws again by mark kelly. major cities chiefs association
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opposing h.r. 38, ask unanimous consent, and ask unanimous consent to put in the record the chief of police from the city of houston, unanimous consent, and finally, i ask to put in the record the national -- the national domestic violence report. i ask unanimous consent to put those into the record. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's requests are granted, without objection. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield two minutes to the gentlelady from connecticut, ms. esty. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady has two minutes. ms. esty: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise in strong opposition to the so-called concealed carry reciprocity act. it is outrageous that today of all day, one week before the five-year anniversary of the horrific murder of 20 schoolchildren in my district of newtown, six educators, two months after the slaughter of 50
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americans watching a concert, that we are about to act on a bill to put more guns in the hands of more dangerous people. rather than helping raise the standards, nationally for gun safety this bill would override and lower most states' concealed carry laws, making it easier for domestic violence abusers, stalkers, and violent criminals to carry across state lines loaded, hidden guns. this bill should be called the act to carry any gun, anywhere, any time, by anyone. the concealed carry reciprocity bill is an outrage and insult to the families in newtown and to the hundreds of families who are lost -- who have lost loved ones to violence who are fwathered here today at the capitol for the fifth annual vigil to end gun violence. in the five years since sandy hook, this is the very first bill we have been allowed to
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vote on in this chamber and it is a reckless giveaway to the moneyed gun interests. mr. speaker, since 2012, gun violence has killed over 170,000 americans. it's time for this house to truly honor the victims of gun violence and their families with action. instead of caving in to gun lobby yet again. i urge all my colleagues to oppose this dangerous bill. thank you, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: it is my pleasure to yield two minutes to the gentleman from texas, mr. poe a member of the judiciary committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has two minutes. mr. poe: mr. speaker, history is a great educator. we remember american history, the war of independence started when the british tried to take away the firearms of americans. lexington and concord, that revolution was successful because americans were able to be armed. the texas war of independence
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started when the mexican government tried to take away the firearms of texans. that started at gonzalez, texas, and it was successful and we became an independent country. the second amendment is a constitutional right that americans have. my friends on the other side seem to want -- they don't like the second amendment. they wish it wasn't there. they do everything in their power to restrict the privilege and the right that we have under the second amendment and we get it because of our history. to protect us from government and also for self-defense. my friends talk about gun violence, you got to remember, gun violence happens in many times where people are disarmed and it usually takes a gun to stop that gun, just like it did at the church in texas. another situation. if i were to drive my jeep to california and i get stopped by the california highway patrol, which maybe would occur, i would
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show them my texas driver's license and they would let me drive even though the laws in california are different on driver's licenses. second, my registration of my jeep in texas would pass in california even though if i had to get it done in california, it probably wouldn't pass. but they recognize that because we have laws that recognize that. my marriage license would be acceptable as well. the right to bear arms, the right to have a concealed carry weapon, is based on the second amendment of the constitution. this law, all it does is allow us to exercise that right in every state. and that's just the way it is. i'll yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reyields back. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield three minutes to the distinguished democratic whip, mr. hoyer. the speaker pro tempore: the
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democratic whip is recognized for three minutes. mr. hiier: i want to thank mr. nadler -- mr. hoyer: i want to thank mr. nadler for yielding. mr. speaker, that's just the way it is. since the start of 2017 more than 14,340 people have been killed by gun violence in the united states. more than any other country on earth. that's just the way it is. more than 29,150 have been wounded. more than 680 of those have been children. in october, 58 people were killed and 515 wounded in las vegas. in the worst mass shooting in our nation's history. but we don't have a bill on the floor to prevent the creation of machine guns, which are illegal,
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by bump stocks. just five weeks later a gunman entered a church in southerland springs, texas, and killed 26 worshipers, wound 20g. the majority's response, bring to the floor a bill that makes america less safe. more replete with people carrying and concealing weapons. in our communities. this bill says if you want to carry a concealed weapon in a state that doesn't allow it, constitutionally, no problem. get your concealed carry license in another state that does. in other words, every state, no matter their own judgment, talking about states' rights, no matter their own judgment, must be subjected to the policies of the least protective state in the nation. instead of addressing the very serious problem of rampant gun
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violence in a constructive way, the republican majority is bringing to the floor a bill hide kes it easier to dangerous weapons. newtown. aurora. orlando. las vegas. southerland springs. and community after community after community. what will it take for this congress to act? what will it take to face this challenge instead of ignoring it no how many more will not live to see the new year or begin it with debilitating injuries they'll carry for the rest of their lives? how many times will we have a moment of silence and a year of no action. defeat this bill. its rational provision of nics, making sure people report, does not justify the danger it
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expands. support the rights of states to protect their residents from hidden firearms. o not ignore the crisis that confronts our country. have a moment of action a moment of legislate manager safety, not less. not simply a few seconds of silence to lament the loss of life, whether it be in las vegas, orlando, or in our own communities. defeat this bill. come back and do some positive, constructive work that makes merica safe again. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i yield myself 15 seconds to submit to the record
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a letter signed by 23 of those states attorneys general general who say in part in this letter, strong evidence indicates that concealed carry permit holders actually deter and reduce crime. this is taking action by passing this legislation. and now it is -- i will not yield to the gentleman. we have limited time. mr. hoyer: the maryland attorney general is not one of those signatories. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's request will be put into the record. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i thank the speaker. it is my pleasure to yield to the gentlewoman from alabama, ms. robey, two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady has two minutes. mrs. roby: i rise in support of h.r. 38, the concealed carries prerest prossity act of 2017. our founders laid out certain rights in our constitution. not to empower the government but to empower the people.
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certainly among those the most fundamental of those rights we have as americans is to keep and bear arms. h.r. 38, concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017, simply ensures all law-abiding citizen whs meet the requirements to obtain concealed carry permits in their home state can exercise the right to protect themselves in any state provided that they obey the local conceal carry laws. mr. speaker, some opponents of this bill claim that we are somehow making it easier for dangerous, unqualified individuals to obtain and carry guns. that is absolutely not true. if a citizen is currently prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm, this bill does nothing to change that. on the other hand, mr. speaker, others will tell you that we are making it harder for law-abiding americans to exercise their second amendment rights. that's not true either.
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h.r. 38 does nothing to infringe upon anyone's right to keep and bear arms. the bill simply ensures that our current national instant criminal background check system, or nics, is enforced and working properly. those of us who respect the second amendment and dedicate our careers to defending it will always fight to protect this fundamental right from those who would erode it. but mr. speaker, we also have a responsibility to uphold and enforce our current laws to ensure dangerous people can't obtain weapons. in fact, it is precisely because we want to preserve our second amendment rights that we must ensure our criminal background checks system works properly. i urge my colleagues to support this bill in order to ensure that those who obtain a concealed carry permit in one state are able to enjoy the freedom in any state to make sure -- and to make sure our current background check system is working the way it is
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intended to work. thank you, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield one minute to the gentleman from tennessee, mr. cohen. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from tennessee, one minute. mr. cohen: thank you, sir. firstly, the nra put a bulletin out to urge people to vote for this. they said we must ensure that anti-gun jurisdictions do in the harass travelers. that's the purpose of this bill from the n.r.a., that non-- anti-gun jurisdictions, state legislatures that have restrictive gun law, cannot harass travelers, cannot see that their state has the same laws that their citizens have from people out of state. when my friends on the other side talk about being concerned about the second amendment and dedicating their lives to it and seeing that irresponsible people don't get gun well, tried to bring a no fly new york buy law they weren't for it. they talked about due process. they brought a due process bill to the floor for people on the
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no fly list? no. social security, people on social security who can't manage their own affair, they passed a law that says they should get guns when they couldn't before. that's not in keeping with what they're saying. this bill violates states' rights, puts guns in hands of people that states don't want to have it in. seven states don't allow people under 21 unless they're in the military to have a gun permit this federal law would override those seven states. this is a bad law. it's the n.r.a.'s law. we should have had amendments considered in committee. but we didn't because the n.r.a. didn't want them. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields, the gentleman from new york reserve the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: at this time it's my pleasure to yield one and a half minutes to the gentleman from texas, mr. farenthold, a member of the judiciary committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas, one and a half minutes. mr. farenthold: i'm here to support the concealed carry reciprocity act which will allow a person who is licensed in one state to carry their firearm, to
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carry it in other states. it works like your driver's license. my texas driver's license lets me drive in virginia, lets me drive in florida, lets me drive in california and i'll tell you, when i was child growing up in texas, my family taught me the importance of marksmanship, gun safety and the second amendment. i've long said that when it comes to reducing violence, it's the individual, not the weapon, we need to be focused on this bill helps ensure americans' right to carry is not enfringed on when crossing state lines, enhans public safety. as the chairman stated earlier on here today a peer-reviewed study shows states with more restrictive conceal carry laws had higher gun-related murder rates. that's why we need an armed citizenry to oprotect ourselves and each other. as we saw in the terrible texas church shooting in southerland springs recently, the death toll could have been much higher had not an armed citizen been there to condition front the gunman.
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those claims are far from true. gun laws from accessing guns are already there in their home states and going to remain undisturbed. i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment and the constitution as i expect most of you all are and believe gun control is hitting what you aim at and nothing else. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, i now yield to the gentleman from florida, mr. deutch. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida has two minutes. mr. deutch: mr. speaker, it's been almost five years to the 26 and 27-year-old babies were slaughtered in
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babies. it has been a year and a half since 49 people were killed in my home state of florida, 58 more being injured. in october, people were killed in las vegas and in november, 26 people were killed and 20 injured as they worshipped in sutherland springs, texas. the response to all of this tragedy is a bill to make it easier for people to carry concealed weapons in every corner of this country. i don't know whose idea, other than the gun corporations, i don't know whose idea it was that this will be the way that we honor the memories of those who have been killed. instead of commonsense gun safety legislation, that the overwhelming majority of people in this country support, we get a bill to make it possible to
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carry a concealed weapon in every state in every corner of this country. and when my friends say it doesn't override any laws, that is absolutely untrue. in states that have state laws that govern where you can and can't carry a gun, this bill overrides that and says you can bring any gun into the state, whatever your regulations are about what you can carry. this is a bill that doesn't make us safer. it doesn't make us stronger, but make no mistake, it makes the bottom line the process of the gun makers of this country a little bit healthier. and as we enter the christmas season and we think about the 26 and 27-year-old kids whose lives were taken away five years ago today and parents suffer every day with that loss and aren't there to receive christmas
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presents, i ask my friends why is it we respond by giving this to the n.r.a. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i submit for the record two articles, one from tennessee and one from florida in which concealed carry permit holders stop dead in their tracks people who are going to commit murder. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's request is granted. mr. goodlatte: i yield 1 1/2 minutes to the the gentleman from florida, mr. gaetz, a member of the judiciary committee. mr. gaetz: i don't know why democrats are afraid to allow people to have exercise their constitutional rights. in my state we have 1.7 concealed carry permit holders.
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they are less likely to commit crimes. if they have their way, we would take the bad acts who break the law and deprive that as an excuse to deprive law-abiding citizens. i rise in support of the constitution and correct a common mistake. the rights that are enumerated in the constitution are not granted to the american people but god-given rights. for too long the government has failed to protect the constitution and has stripped law-abiding citizens of their freedom. states recognize driver's licenses but nowhere are they mentioned in the constitution. carry permits from other states even though the constitution states that the right of people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. mr. hudson's good bill restores constitutional liberty and i
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join in sponsoring this legislation and stand with the constitution and against those who wish to dismantle it. i urge my colleagues to uphold to defend.ey swore and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield to the gentleman from rhode island for a unanimous consent request. mr. cicilline: my friends on the other side of the aisle that if someone has a concealed weapon america will be safer. two studies rebut that. 2017 study found in states that dopted the most permissive carry laws, the crime rate was higher. and 2017 study by boston university found that states had 10.6% higher handgun murder
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rate. i ask both of those studies that disprove the claim that america is safer if they carry a hidden firearm -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield to the chairman of the democratic caucus, mr. crowley. mr. crowley: i must have missed something in my religious 11 ning, were there commandments by god? i know there are 10. i missed that one, that god-given right? was it a god-given right to take that right and execute 58 people at a concert? was that a god-given right? mr. speaker, the american people have spoken. they want congress to keep their
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families safe by passing commonsense gun safety legislation, legislation that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. protecting those who want to want to cause terror in our churches, in our schools, at concerts and our communities from getting those firearms. the bill before us does the exact opposite. it would force states like new york to weaken their own gun safety laws and allow concealed carry. and puts families at risk and for what? to appease the n.r.a.? that's shameful. in the 6 days since the las vegas massacre, congress has done nothing, absolutely nothing to address the clear loopholes in our laws that allow a man to kill so many. 66 days since the republicans denounced the bump stocks and
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only to turn around and do this bill. we have seen one horrific mass shooting, republicans are putting a bill that would put each and every american in harm's way. this comes before the 5th anniversary of the tragic shooting at sandy hook and put us in further danger of another las vegas, another orlando and sandy hook. the american people are sick and tired of this. they want this congress to protect them, not enable criminals. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: may i ask how much time is remaining on each side? the eaker pro tempore: gentleman from virginia has 11 3/4 minutes and the gentleman from new york has 13 minutes.
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the persons in the gallery are guests of the house and any approval or disapproval of proceedings is in violation of the rules of the house. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i yield two minutes to the gentleman from florida, mr. ruther forward, a member of the judiciary committee. mr. rutherford: mr. speaker, in my 41 years of law enforcement, 12 years as a sheriff of duval county, florida, i have seen many, many times where good law-abiding citizens use legal firearms to stop dangerous people from harming them, their loved ones and even their neighbors. mr. speaker, as a law enforcement professional, i want good people carrying firearms. the fraternal order of police who represent thousands of officers all across the united states of america supports good
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people carrying firearms. you know why? because we know as law enforcement officers, we understand that our agencies, our priority response time target is seven minutes and in a life and death situation, we target getting there in seven minutes. that's in a well policed community. so i want to put republicans, democrats everyone on notice that that for seven minutes, you better be prepared to protect yourself. so if an active shooter in a mall, in a school, in a church like we just saw in sutherland springs, texas is killing five people per minute, that's an average of 35 dead unarmed citizens before the police can even arrive at the scene.
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believe me, we want good law-abiding citizens who are authorized to carry firearms to have the ability to intervene in a violent situation before law enforcement can even arrive at the scene. we need the concealed carry reciprocity act to ensure these citizens to retain their constitutional right to bear arms and legally cross state lines and hopefully be able to stop a violent incident. mr. speaker, none of our other constitutional rights stop at the state line and our second amendment rights should not stop at that right either. i encourage my colleagues to support h.r. 38 and save lives. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i now yield two minutes to the the gentleman from rhode island, mr. cicilline.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cicilline: we just heard some of our other colleagues speak about the god-given right to carry a concealed loaded firearm. what about the god given to live and be free from gun violence? we have seen the two deadliest shootings in american history, 20 children slaughtered and the list goes on and on. our republican colleagues will do nothing about it. they won't pass universal background, no fly, no buy and prevent bump stocks and what is their answer? everyone in america can carry a concealed loaded firearm, even people who are violent criminals, stalkers, domestic abusers can carry concealed firearms. make no mistake about it, this legislation allows someone to go online and you don't have to have training, you can be a criminal and don't have -- go online and get a permit in that
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state. you only have to go there and travel america with a loaded concealed firearm and jofrle the people of that state to impose responsible limitation on it. and endanger police officers who could be sued to have the audacity to detain them. they have a cause of action against the police officer and attorneys' fees, unprecedented. this is the response to a country that is pleading for responsible gun safety legislation that is living with the carnage of gun violence and asking this congress do something about it, protect us from this violence and our republican colleagues muster up the courage to pay whomage to the n.r.a. to make it easier to sell guns so people can carry concealed loaded firearms all across this country. shame on you. shame on you. you have a responsibility to
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work with us to protect our constituents from gun violence, to enact gun safety legislation that will reduce the incidents of gun violence. the claim that it makes it safer is refuted by the empirical evidence. you know it is. shame on the republic cangs. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman should be reminded to direct their comments to the chair. mr. cicilline: shame on the republicans. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i now yield to the gentleman from louisiana, mr. johnson, a member of the judiciary committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from mr. johnson: i rise in support of h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017. our constitutional right to keep and bear arms shoult not be confined by state lines. yet currently a person who has been allowed a concealed carry
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rmit in one state can be denied that right in other states. when a louisianan leaves the state, our valid, concealed carry permit becomes void absent an agreement with the state we're in or traveling through. the abill today ensures americans are not denied their second amendment rights because they are in another state. it does so while also recognizing state's rights by noting that concealed carry holders must follow the law of each and every jurisdiction. as a constitutional law attorney myself, it's critically important to me that the fundamental ithe of -- right of every citizen is protected. yes, this is about preserving our god-given freedom. it's about public safety and demon sense. as noted, our letter by 23 states attorneys general,
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including my home state of louisiana, affirms that concealed carry laws deter crime. as my friend and colleague sheriff rutherford said , he reminded us law enforcement wants the good guys to be armed. this protect ours second amendment right and i encourage my colleagues to support this legislation. i want to thank congressman hudson for introducing h.r. 38 and chairman goodlatte for advancing this legislation through our hughes judiciary committee. i'm proud to be part of this historic legislation. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield two minutes to the gentleman from maryland, mr. raskin. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has two minutes. mr. raskin: there have been 914 cases of nonself-defense killings by private citizens holding permits to carry concealed loaded handguns in the last 10 years, which translates into 1,119 americans dead by
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homicide, mass shooting, suicide, and murder of police officers, under concealed carry permit laws in the states. in florida, for example, i saw my friend mr. rutherford up there , in august, concealed handgun permit holder everett miller shot and killed two kissimmee, florida, police officers. if you want to give everybody the right to a concealed carry permit in your state, fine but don't impose that on the people of maryland. we've got our own laws, thank you. since january, we have had 397 gun massacres in america, designs as a slaying of four people or more. two of them, las vegas, which left 5 people dead and southerland springs massacre which left 26 people did, are among the 10 worst massacres in american history by gun. the american people want to end this reign of terror. what do your friends do? do they bring us universal background check legislation favored by more than 90% of the
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american people of every political party to plug the gun show loophole, the internet loophole, the 7-eleven parking lot loophole? no. do they bring to the floor the bill to criminalize bump stock which they promised to us? no such luck. instead they bring forward a bill that would wipe out the vast majority of concealed carry laws in the united states of america, trampling states' rights and wrecking the painstaking work of legislators all over the land, drags us down to the most lax and permissive states in the land. it's not a race to the bottom, it's a plunge to the bottom they've engineered here this has othing to do with reciprocity. states have the ability to negotiate reciprocity. your bill destroyses preprossity. it brings us down to the lowest, most permissive law in the country. my state doesn't give concealed carry permits to domestic abusers, to violent offenders and dangerously unstable people. it duncht -- a dozen states --
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expire. mr. raskin: protect states rights. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: at this time it's my pleasure to yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. culberson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has one minute. mr. culberson: thank you, mr. speaker. the difference of opinion on this bill vividly illustrates the profoundly different worldview of democrats versus republicans. democrats instinctively trust the government and instinctively distrust individuals. republicans instinctively distrust the government and trust the good hearts and good sense of individual americans to be the best stewards of protecting themselves, their family, their property, and their freedoms. our founders understood this and this is why the first amendment protect ours freedom of conscience and the second amendment follows it immediately so we have the ability to protect ourselves, our freedom of conscience against the overpowering force of the government. we in texas enacted in 1995,
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while i was a member of the texas house a concealed carry law and we've had over 20 years data. people can go to the department of texas public safety website and look under conviction rates and see that the concealed carry permit holders in texas, over the last 22 year, are 21 times less likely to commit a crime than the average texans. the seven minutes that sheriff rutherford mentioned to us is a lifetime. if you, your family or neighbors are at risk of attack, if the individual, law-abiding american is going -- is going to carry a concealed weapon, they've had a background check, been trained in the use of the weapon and know the law. we all as americans should work to preserve the second amendment right of every american to keep and bear arms of every -- no matter what state they are. in i urge my colleagues to support this leg. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from texas, mr. o'rourke.
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has one minute. mr. o'rourke: i grew up in a household that honored a tradition of gun ownership for hunt, collection, and sportsmanship and also honored gun safety. i was taught to shoot my my -- by my uncle raymond o'rourke, jail captain and marksman in el paso. i also have a state -- live in a state that has a license to carry process that requires classes. to quire that someone conceal carry be 2 or older 15, states do not. texas does not grant licenses to violent offenders. 22 states do and texas does not grant licenses to people convicted of stalk, though 21 other states do. what h.r. 38 does, mr. speaker is it subjects every texan, every el pasoan i represent to the lowest common denominator in
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the united states. it will make our state less, not more, safe. that is why i oppose h.r. 38 and i ask all my colleagues to join me in doing the same. with that, i yield back to the gentleman from new york. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentleman reserves, the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i yield myself 15 seconds to point out that the attorney general of the state of texas has signed a letter, along with 2 other state attorneys general , in support of this legislation and pointing out that authorizing permit holders to carry across state lines will not result in an increased risk of crime, further strong evidence indicates that concealed carry permit holders deter and reduce crime. speaking of texas, it's now my pleasure to yield two minutes to the lead democratic co-sponsor of this legislation, the gentleman mr. cuellar, two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has two minutes.
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mr. cuellar: for the fix nics act of 2017, i rise in support of this legislation which has been combined with the reciprocity act which is again another section that i support also. on the fix nics i certainly want to thank senator cornyn, representative culberson, representative esty, for their leadership on this particular issue we've been working on. a few weeks ago, 26 members of the southerland springs community, in my district, were killed by someone who should have never had access to firearms. the investigation into the shooting revealed that the shooter had a criminal history. the defense department and the air force missed six times, six times, in time where the criminal justice process should have reported the history to the nics database. as of 2016, the air force which should have entered the southerland springs shooter's criminal information entered a total of one active record in the nics record.
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if the air force would have met the minimum obligations, the gunman never would have been able to legally purchase a firearm. this is why we introduced the fix nics act of 2017. this legislation ensures that the federal and state authorities comply with existing laws and accurately report relevant criminal history accurately to report these records to the nics. it also provides consequences for federal agencies who fail to report the relevant records and ensure that states improve their overall reporting. the fix nics act is important in ensuring someone like the southerland springs shooter never slips through the cracks again. as to the reciprocity part of it, again, i the that both sides have spoken oen that. again, as a supporter of the second amendment, i believe that the second amendment doesn't stop at political state lines. that's something that applies as part of the u.s. constitution
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and should apply across. so again, i rise in support of this legislation and i ask my colleagues to support this bill and i yield back the remainder of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. nadler: thank you, mr. speaker. it is now my pleasure to yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from california, the chairman of the -- of the gun violence prevention task force, mr. thompson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is yieldsed two minutes. mr. thompson: i rise in opposition to this dangerous bill. you know, i asked my local law enforcement enforcement what they thought of folks from out of state who don't meet our local requirements kohl g -- coming into our communities with loaded, concealed firearms. these are the folks who are on the front lines of fighting gun violence. we should listen to what they have to say. our sonoma county sheriff opposes this bill and says it would negatively affect our
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community and put citizens and his deputies in greater danger. chief of police from my hometown said as a lifelong proponent of the ability to own, possess and carry firearms within the provisions of the law, i am whole heartedly against h.r. 38. like many of us, he asked, how long will it take before someone who can't meet the legal requirements to conceal carry in california goes to some other state with little or no standards and get a permit from that state? our chief of police in martinez opposes this bill. says it's a race to the bottom. overwhelmingly, law enforcement in my district strongly oppose this bill. moreover, there's a reason no major law enforcement organizations have come out in support of this bill. it's dangerous and it's unnecessary. i think my colleagues should
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stand with law enforcement to -- the people who keep us and our families safe, and oppose this bill. every example that was given from my friends across the aisle don't pertain to this bill. they talked about in their states, concealed carry. their states, texas, was the last one, in texas there's a standard you have to meet. to get a concealed carry permit. if this bill passes, you erase that standard. somebody from out of state who is a violent criminal can come in with a loaded concealed firearm in the state of texas. someone who is a criminal in the state of texas, where there are rules, can go to another state, get a concealed carry permit and bring that loaded, concealed firearm into the state of texas. this is bad policy, it should be opposed. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from new york reserves. the gentleman from virginia.
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mr. goodlatte: at this time it's my pleasure to yield one minute to the gentleman from florida, mr. dunn. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has been yielded one minute. mr. dunn: mr. speaker, i rise today in support of h.r. 38, the concealed carries prerest prossity act this commonsense legislation ensure ours second amendment rights don't end when we cross state lines. we are all aware of the story of shah never-before-seen allen, a mother of three, pulled over in new jersey after committing a minor traffic violation. she told police legally she had a handgun on her person and a concealed carry permit. she was unaware that the permit was not transfer to believe new jersey and she had no prior criminal record. nonetheless, she spent 40 days in a jail cell. americans like shah never-before-seen are exposed to -- like shaneen are exposed to real risk simply by exercising their constitutional right. this bill ensures that valid, concealed carry permits from one state are valid in all other states. it protects, it creates legal
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protections for law-abiding gun owners against states that violate this statute. mr. speaker, i encourage my colleagues to support this important legislation and show that the mesh people the second amendment is safe with us. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, how much time do we have? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york has six minutes remaining. mr. nadler: it's my pleasure to yield one minute to the the gentlewoman from new york, mrs. maloney. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york has one minute. mrs. maloney: mr. speaker, we have a gun violence epidemic in this country. it's glaringly obvious to anyone paying attention that our federal gun safety laws are pathetically weak and in major need of improvement.
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this house is passing a bill that undermine gun safety laws and puts more guns on the street and more lives at risk. believe me, if more guns make this country safer, we would be the safest country on earth. under this bill, someone who couldn't get a concealed carry, someone could bring it into new york if they had a permit from another state. and this puts us all at the mercy of the weakest gun safety laws in the country. this bill is opposed by major law enforcement organizations across this country. i urge this body to listen to their advice and vote against this reckless assault on state and local gun safety laws. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york
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reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: i yield one minute to the gentleman from north carolina, mr. budd. mr. budd: i rise today in support of mr. hutson's concealed carry reciprocity act. each state currently determines its own concealed carry reciprocity laws and some states don't recognize concealed carry permits from other states. it forces lawful gun owners to sometimes surrender their second amendment rights. the current system has ruined lives and punished gun owners because they fell victim to complexity and uncertainty in the law. my colleagues' bill addresses this problem by bringing much needed clarity to the system. this is a simple proposal and a necessary one and if it's enacted will allow lawful gun
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owners to carry their guns into other states. this would be very similar to a driver's license. h.r. 38 would not create national standards for concealed carry nor would it take away a state's right to govern their own concealed carry laws. no. this bill simply uses congress' 14th amendment power to protect peoples' constitutional rights from state abuse. sam you ell adams said, the constitution should never be construed to prevent the people of the united states who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. this powerful line from mr. adams sums up my feelings much better than i can. i thank mr. hudson and the chairman for his leadership on this issue. i urge adoption. and mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: i now yield two minutes to the gentlelady from
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demmings.s. mrs. demings: one of my colleagues talked about the 1.7 million permits that are should in florida. those permits are should to floridians for floridians not to any person from any state at any time who wants to bring a gun into florida. and different from my colleagues, mr. speaker, i rise today to advocate for the safety of every american. and for the safety of our first responders who are entrusted with that awesome responsibility. as members of congress are questioned should be, what can we all do to make living in america safer? every day, every day, law enforcement officers risk their lives to keep our communities safe. last week, i was honored that the house passed the law
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enforcement mental health and wellness act unanimously. police officers have a tough job. and i think we can all agree on this point, that job is getting tougher. mr. speaker, we must ask ourselves why would would any member, republican or democrat support this legislation that would make a police officer's job harder and more dangerous and open our officers up to personal liability for simply doing their job? this reckless piece of legislation would allow persons from outside your state to bring their firearms anywhere, including school zones, without applying the guidelines, laws, restrictions or oversight of your state. mr. speaker, i want you to envision this situation from the perspective of a law enforcement officer. an out of state armed individual is stopped by that officer.
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maybe that individual's license is legitimate, maybe it's not. the officer is on the side of the road facing an armed individual trying to figure out whether the individual's permit is authentic, which the officer is obligated to do. if the permit is fake, failing to stop that individual puts the community at risk. if the permit is real, the individual has opened the officer up to potential personal liability. in the last year, i have heard my colleagues on the other side talk about how we should better empower states to decide what's in their own best interests. could i have an additional 30 seconds? mr. nadler: i yield the gentlelady an additional 30 seconds. mrs. demings: this legislation strips individual states of their power and puts our public safety officers and legal and personal jeopardy.
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supporting this legislation is reckless and irresponsible and as a former chief of police, i urge my colleagues to vote no on h.r. 38. thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from virginia. mr. goodlatte: may i inquire how much time is remaining on each side? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from has 2:30. and the gentleman from new york has 2:30. mr. goodlatte: at this time, i yield 1 1/2 minutes to the gentleman from maine, mr. poliquin. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maine has 1 1/2 minutes. mr. poliquin: mr. speaker, for generations maine families have enjoyed the great outdoors that means fishing, camping, and hunting. that is part of our way of life. and part of that way of life is
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responsibly and lawfully owning firearms. we are comfortable with them and have for generations. . you hudson's bill is a commonsense fix to a patchwork of state laws that will confuse and do confuse law-abiding americans who have valid concealed carry permits in their own states issued by their own states when they want to travel to or other states which have different concealed carry laws. h.r. 38 does not allow travel as long as the holder of a concealed carry license does not obey the laws of the states that he or she is traveling to. and i read directly from the statute, that this bill shall not be construde to limit the laws of any state. the other side of the aisle needs to make sure they get this exactly right because they have
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not been correct on this fact. mr. speaker, mr. hudson's bill actually and additionally strengthens existing regulations by requiring federal government agencies to promptly and accurately require a reporting rather, to the f.b.i., someone who is mentally ill, someone who has committed a serious crime or someone who is in the country illegally and should not have a firearm. this is a commonsense bill that will help law-abiding citizens to help keep our families safer. i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from virginia reserves. the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, we are prepared to close if the other side is prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york. mr. nadler: how much time do i have? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has 2 1/2 minutes. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, this
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bill is advanced -- i'm not sure in the name of what, but it is going to do is make us less safe and to overrule all our states. under this bill, someone who lives in new york could go to another state, doesn't even have to go to another state, just apply to the other state, get a concealed carry permit from that state and never set foot in that state and then use it in new york, thus overriding new york's laws. now we have heard it said that we have -- that this bill is necessary to protect the second amendment constitutional rights of gun owners. but the fact is, there is no second amendment constitutional right for concealed carry. in the district of columbia versus heller case in which the supreme court said the second amendment established a personal right, justice scalia's opinion was that it was entirely
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consistent with the constitution and said the majority of american courts to consider the questionville held that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the second amendment or state analogies. so the second amendment argument is simply wrong or disingenuous. we are living in an epidemic of gun violence. 33,000 americans are killed every year. no other country approaches this. no country other than those at war, but no country in peace ime has 172, and we have 33,000. it's not because of mental illness but large presence of guns. 2017 stanford university study found a direct correlation with the most permissive concealed carry laws and violent crime. general studies have shown the direct correlation of the
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presence of the number of guns and murder rates by guns. so this is a bill that is a death sentence for many americans. that's what this bill is, a death sentence without trial for many americans by increasing the danger of guns by overruling states that fear that we don't want weapons on the new york city subway or chicago metro or other places with great concentration of people. we are going to say the states with the least restricted, maybe most rural, may be most sensible and impose those restrictions on the other states. it is wrong and death sentence for many americans. and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia is recognized. mr. goodlatte: for the purpose of closing arguments, i yield to the gentleman from arizona, mr. schweikert. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arizona is
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recognized. mr. schweikert: this is one of those -- we all have subjects that we find fascinating and for 25 years i kept files of abstracts on this because i actually participating in writing arizona's 1993 concealed carry law. i wish this was an honest conversation about the data because we all want our communities and families to be safer. i believe i can show you the statistical abstract data, states like arizona, adjusted for population, the violent use of firearms is almost one half of what it was before the adoption of our concealed carry law. concealed carry response i will for that? of course not. some of it is mental health, some of it is law enforcement, some of it is incarceration. it's complicated. but if you look at these data abstracts of crime statistics in the united states with the misuse of firearms, turns out
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that states that have adopted concealed carry compared to states that have gone other directions, states have gotten safer and there is some on brilliant articles when you compare florida and illinois, big populated, complex states, florida has gotten dramatically safer. illinois has not. this, if you really love our families and love our communities, this needs to be an intellectually sound discussion of what factors make us safer as a society. i believe this bill leads us in that direction. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: all time for debate has expired. pursuant to house resolution 645, the previous question is ordered on the bill as amended. the question is on engrossment and third reading of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. third reading.
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the clerk: a bill to provide a means by which nonresidents of a state whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the state. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> i have a motion to recommit at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed to the bill? >> i am opposed. the clerk: mr. thompson of california moves to recommit do the committee of the judiciary with instructions with the following amendments. page one, line 1, strike a and insert a-1. strike one and insert a. . mr. thompson: i ask that you dispense with the reading. the speaker pro tempore: is there objection to dispensing with the reading? the suspension of the reading -- the reading is dispensed with.
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pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from california is recognized for five minutes to upport his motion. the gentleman is recognized. mr. thompson: the final amendment to the bill which will not kill the bill, nor send it back to committee. if adopted, the bill will immediately proceed to final passage as amended. mr. speaker, next week will be the fifth anniversary of the hideous mass murder at sandy hook elementary, where 20 kids and six educators were slaughtered in their classroom. this year we've witnessed two of the worst mass shootings in recent american history. in las vegas, nevada, and sutherland springs, texas. and every day more than 30 people are killed by someone using a gun. this should be a call to action for everyone to work together to help prevent gun violence. that's why 90% of americans support strengthening our gun laws, not weakening them. let's be clear about what this
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congress is going to do today. instead of taking serious action on bump stocks or expanding background checks, the majority party is undermining the very laws that work to prevent gun violence. for example, some states allow people who have been convicted of some violent crimes to carry a loaded concealed firearm. 30 states and the district of columbia currently deny permits to people convicted of those violent crimes. such as assault and battery, threatening or crimes committed with a weapon. so if you're from any of these states, alaska, california, connecticut, delaware, florida, hawaii, illinois, iowa, kentucky, louisiana, maryland, massachusetts, michigan, minnesota, missouri, montana, nebraska, nevada, new jersey, new mexico, new york, north carolina, north dakota, ohio, oklahoma, oregon, texas, utah, virginia, west virginia, or from the district of columbia, a vote
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for this underlying bill is a vote to undermine your own state gun violence prevention policy. because this bill says that even if your state prohibits its own residents who have been convicted of certain violent crimes, you can't prohibit someone from another state with the same criminal record from carrying a loaded concealed firearm in -- if their state allows it. this motion to recommit would state that a person who has been convicted of a violent crime within the proceeding -- preceding three years may not possess or carry a concealed handgun in a state that prohibits a person from doing so on the basis of a conviction for that very same offense. this would be people convicted of crimes such as resisting arrest, assault, permitting sexual abuse of a minor, aggravated assault, or a violation of a criminal sexual
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assault protection order. all violent crimes. an aye vote on this motion to recommit is a pro-states' right, pro-second amendment, and anti-criminal vote. i'm a gun owner. i have been all my life. i'm not opposed to concealed carry. but i am opposed to violent criminals having guns. and you should be too. i urge you to support this motion to recommit. and if you vote against it, you're voting to allow violent criminals, convicted criminals, to carry loaded concealed firearms in your community in your state, in your district. that's wrong -- community, in your state, in your district. that's wrong. we should protibt that -- prohibit that from happening. and it's a real easy fix. could have been fixed in committee. could have been fixed in committee. you could have taken care of the concerns that you have with the restrictions on concealed carry,
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and you could have stopped criminals, convicted criminals from carrying loaded concealed firearms. but the committee didn't do it. we have a chance now, it's the last chance to do it before this bill comes to a vote. and i urge my friends on both sides of the aisle to vote for this motion to recommit. and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia seek recognition? mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, i rise to claim the time in opposition to the motion to recommit. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia voitsed. mr. goodlatte: mr. speaker, with this motion to recommit, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are trying in vein to hamper the passage of this important -- vain to hamper the passage of this important legislation. h.r. 38 alowls law-abiding citizens the ability to exercise their second amendment right when they cross state lines. the supreme court held in district of columbia vs. hell that are a second amendment -- heller that the second amendment rotects the use for firearm.
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further, the court concluded that the second amendment guarantees the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation and that's central to this right is the inherent right of self-defense. quote-unquote. additionally, in mcdonald vermont city of chicago, the supreme court -- vs. city of chicago, the supreme court ruled that the right of an individual to keep and bear arms as protected under the second amendment is incorporated by the due process clause of the 14th amendment against states. an individual's second amendment right is no different than the first amendment's protections on speech and free exercise of religious expression. and the fourth amendment's prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure, or the eighth amendment's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. can you imagine, my colleagues, outcries if any of the aforementioned rights stopped at their state's borders? believe me, i can. they'd be loud and boisterous
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about it. and justifiably so. despite that fact, here they are trying to derail a bill that affords the second amendment the same respect. now, this motion to recommit attempts to extend the law, the federal law, which already bars people from having firearms if they've been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor, domestic violence crimes, by saying any violent crime be covered. and they define violent crime by saying it means any offense that involves injury or the threat of injury to the person of another. in my state of virginia, and in most other state, it's up to the police officer in a traffic accident, if you rear end somebody and you injure them, whether or not you're simply charged with a traffic offense or you're charged with a criminal offense. and that should not be the basis of denying somebody their second amendment rights under the united states constitution. i will not yield. i urge my colleagues to oppose
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this motion to recommit and support the underlying bill. and i yield back. >> will the gentleman yield? the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the previous question is ordered. on the motion to recommit. the question is on the motion. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the noes have it. the motion is not agreed to. mr. thompson: mr. speaker, i ask for the -- a recorded vote. the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman asks for the yeas and nays. the yeas and nays are requested. all those in favor of taking this vote by the yeas and nays will rise and remain standing until counted. a sufficient number having arisen, the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes y electronic device. pursuant to clause 8 and clause 9 of rule 20rks this 15-minute vote on the motion to recommit will be followed by a five-minute vote on the passage of the bill, if ordered. and the motion to suspend the rules and agree to the house concurrent resolution 90. this is a 15-minute vote.
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the speaker pro tempore: -- on this vote the yeas are 190, the nays are 236. the motion is adopted. the question is on passage of the bill. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the yes have it. the gentleman from new york. >> on that i ask for a recorded
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vote. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has asked for a recorded vote. is a recorded vote is request -- a recorded vote is requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is order. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 231, the nays are 198. the bill is passed. without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the unfinished business is the vote on the motion of the gentleman from california, mr. royce, to suspend the rules and -- gree to house resolution house concurrent resolution 90 as amended, on which the yeas and nays are ordered. the clerk will report the title of the concurrent resolution.
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the clerk: house concurrent resolution 90. concurrent resolution condemning ethnic cleansing of the rohingya and calling for an end to the attacks and an immediate restoration of humanitarian access to the state of row kind in burma -- could he kind in burma. -- row kind in burma -- row keen in burma. the speaker pro tempore: this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 423. the nays are three. 2/3 having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended and the concurrent resolution is agreed to and without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. without objection, the title is amended. for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia seek recognition? mr. woodall: mr. speaker, i send to the desk a privileged report from the committee on rules for filing under the rule. the clerk: report to accompany house resolution 647, providing for consideration of the bill h.r. 477, to amend the securities exchange act of 1934 to exempt from registration brokers in connection with a transfer of ownership of smaller privately held company, providing for consideration of the bill h.r. 3971, to amend the truth in lending act, and
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the real estate settlement procedures act of 1974 to modify the requirements for community financial institutions with respect to certain rules relating to mortgage loans, and for other purposes. and providing for consideration of the joint resolution, house joint resolution 123, making further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2018, and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: referred to the house calendar and ordered printed. the chair will now entertain requests for one-minute speeches. for what purpose does the gentleman from illinois seek recognition?
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>> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the house will be in order, please. please take your conversations off the floor. the house will be in order. the gentleman is recognized. mr. hultgren: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to congratulate the batavia high school bulldog football team on winning the illinois class 7-5 state championship. holding off the undefeated lake zurich bears and winning the thrilling final in overtime, the team ended the season with an overall 13-1 record. crucial to the victory was quarterback riley cooper. he completed 28-42 passes for 295 yards and three touchdowns in the championship game. the final score was a 10-yard touchdown pass to subtle in overtime securing the 21-14 win at huskies stadium in dekalb. leading the team throughout the great regular season and playoff win was the coach who has headed the team since 2010
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and who is a 1983 batavia graduate. this is the school's first state championship since 2013. students who cheered their siblings and friends on in 2013 bulldog team are now carrying the torch and celebrating their own victory and members of the -- as members of the 2017 team. congratulations, batavia bulldogs, past and present, for your achievements. your success is well deserved, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california, for what purpose does the gentlewoman from california eek recognition? without objection. ms. pelosi: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today to honor the extraordinary life and legacy of my dear friend, naomi, who died on december 4, in her beloved san francisco. life for her fighting for values, ideas and issues we hold dear.
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born and raised in san francisco, she attended loyola high school, san francisco state. her parents were prominent leaders in the san francisco jewish leader. their activism, particularly of er mother, who brought food, entertainment and joy to the litary in world war ii, made her political activism to begin in the 1950's. most prominently working with cesar chavez and the farm workers. she mobilized the fight toned segregation and expand access to quality education for all. her commitment to upholding the dignity of every person knew no bounds. her and her husband were force supporters of israel and tried to help strengthen u.s.-israel relationship. she was a pillar of the san
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francisco jewish community where she was dedicated to forging connections between young jewish connections and the state of israel. her leadership in spear heading the san francisco holocaust memorial and training generations of volunteers around the country will benefit the jewish communities for years to come. in conclusion, mr. speaker, i say that many leaders depended on naomi's wise counsel and we have lost a dear friend. we will all profoundly miss her warmth and wonderful friendship. she was passionate about her family, her husband, bob, and her four beautiful children, her grandchildren and her great grandchildren. our families were close neighbors and remain good friends. with -- i family was we celebrated together just as we organized and worked together. may it bring comfort to the family that so many share their sorrow at the passing of this
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much beloved and inspiring person. i thank you, mr. speaker, for allowing me to make this statement. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from minnesota seek recognition? >> to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> mr. speaker, when one thinks of poverty it's likely they envision poverty in an urban or maybe a rural setting. mr. paulsen: it may come as a surprise but poverty in the suburban communities is on the rise. the number of people living outside the twin cities in minnesota increased 93 between 2000 and 2015. the suburbs are thought of places as comfort if not wealth. however, when considering suburban areas, it's estimated there are more than 187,000 people in poverty in the twin cities. organizations in our communities like people reaching out for other people, prop, the lake winds co-op, southwest news media and mark, brian and alex, are shedding light on the issues of suburban
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poverty and making a difference. mr. speaker, the holiday season that we're in now is a time to come together and think about others who may need a little extra help and generosity. it's the perfect time to start helping neighbors and friends in our communities who are struggling. awareness is just the first step. taking action should follow. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. payne: mr. speaker, new jersey has one of the 10 lowest firearm death rates in the country. that's because the people of my state has set the bar high for public safety. but the bill my republican colleagues just passed would undermine the will of the people and make new jersey less safe. mr. speaker, in new jersey, gun owners who want to carry a
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concealed weapon in public must meet stringent public safety requirements and have a really good reason to carry a concealed weapon loaded while in public. the people of my state can feel secure because they know that the people licensed to carry these guns in public are carrying their guns safely and responsibly. mr. speaker, the concealed carry reciprocity act is the peak of federal overreach. it is a special interest bill from the n.r.a. that will overturn laws and undermine the safety of the state of new jersey. today's vote was bad for new jersey and bad for our nation. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? mr. poe: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: ithout objection.
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mr. pe: mr. speaker, when we turn on the tap, clean water flows out and we hardly think about it. same thing when we turn on the shower or flush the toilet. but far lot of the world this isn't true. according to usaid, over 700 million people lack dependable access to clean water. it's not just water. one in three people don't have access to a toilet. many don't know basic hygiene practices. as a result, 800 million children a day die. however prorkgress has been made. the water for the world act that representative blumenauer and i made great strides to guarantee safe water, sanitation and hygiene to everyone. but there's still work to be done. 80% of the countries receiving aid report water issues remain. the poorest still lack water and sanitation. with our god-given resources we have an obligation to make sure
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people receive the basis of life, clean water. that's just the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from new jersey seek recognition? without objection, -- without objection. >> next week is the fifth anniversary of the tragedy at sandy hook elementary school. just over two months ago, a mass shooter took the lives of 58 at a concert in las vegas, and 31 springs, outherland exas, was changed forever. mrs. watson coleman: but just moments ago, my colleagues memorialized those deaths by increasing the risk of those happening in communities like yours and mine. to pass a bill written by the
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n.r.a. at the expense of the safety and security of residents and law enforcement is an absolute disgrace. to allow people, including those with dangerous histories, carry hidden loaded guns anywhere across the country is simply shameful. first by stripping health care, and now this, it seems the republican agenda is fostering death over life. with that, i yield back. froip for what purpose does the gentlewoman from new york -- the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from new york seek recognition? without objection. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to support h.r. 38, the concealed carry reciprocity act of 2017 which passed the house with just a bipartisan vote a few moments ago. as the representative of a district with a large number of law-abiding firearm owners, i know many individuals who have conceal hfed carry permits who use their firearm for personal protection. ms. tenney: this commonsense
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measure would allow qualified, law-abiding citizens who obtained concealed carry permits to carry their firearm across state lines into another state. since 1991, the number of conceal carry permits have dropped -- have risen dramatically, while the rates of crime have dropped. additionally the fix on the nics provision of the legislation would add an extra layer of accountability to the national criminal background check system for individuals legally prohibited from obtaining a final. as one of the leading advocates for second amendment rights in new york state, i was the first to introduce a full repeal of gnchor cuomo's gun-grabbing, so called safe act. i believe our second amendment rights are got-given by the constitution and something we need to defend each and every day. i yield back, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from colorado seek recognition? >> i do move that the house
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adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. a those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted. accordingly, the house stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow for morning hour debate.rks.
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the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. green: mr. speaker, once again i am accorded the pre-eminent privilege of ddressing the house. i consider this one of the great honors of my life to be able to address the house of representatives. and today after this one-minute i consider remark, mr. speaker, i will present a privileged resolution . i want to thank the many persons, especially my staff, who have assisted in the drafting and crafting of this resolution. i'm grateful to the many

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