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i was born and raised catholic, and i am just as ticked off as everybody else is over what has happened with the church. having said that, i would add this. when i was a young teenager, i attended a catholic boarding school run by the oblates of mary immaculate. 250 students, other boys and i, spent three years sharing the same accommodations 24/7, with 44 priests. not once in those three years was there any sexual misbehavior. boys are pretty sharp. we talk. we would have known. i believe there are catholic priests out there who are able to minister to their congregations without preying on the young people. as pennsylvanians know full well, it doesn't only happen in the catholic church. it happens in politics, college
-- >> we are going to leave the pennsylvania governor's >> we will bring you back as soon as the house wraps up at session. speaker p tpore: the the c ls bere the us a mmunicatiofrom the speaker. thspkepro teore: t speaker's rm, oober 2, 2018 i hereby appoint the honorab andy harriso act as speer pro tempe on this da sign, ul d. ryapeer the house of representati the speaker pro po: the ay wile offered b chaplain, father conroy.
chaplain conroy: let us pray. eternal god, we give you thanks for giving us another day. we thank you once again that we your creatures can come before you and ask guidance for the men and women of this assembly. bless the people of this great nation with wisdom, knowledge, and understanding during this campaign season that they might responsibly participate in our american democracy. please keep all who work for the people's house in good health, that they might faithfully fulfill the great responsibility given them in their service to the work of the capitol. bless us this day and every day and may all that is done here be for your greater honor and glory, amen. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 4-a of house resolution 108 4, the journal of the last day's
proceedings is approved. the chair will lead the house in the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. under clause 5-b of rule 20, the achair announces to the house in light of the red ig nation of the gentleman from west virginia, mr. jenkins, the whole number of the house is 428. the chair lays before the house a communication. the clerk: the honorable the speaker, house of representatives, sir, pursuant to the permission granted in clause 2-h of rule 2 of the rules of the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on september 28, 2018, at 6:22 p.m. that the senate passed without
an amendment h.r. 6897. that the senate agreed to senate concurrent resolution 49. signed sincerely, karen l. haas. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 4 of rule 1, the following enrolled bill was signed by speaker pro tempore mooney on friday, september 28, 2018. the clerk: h.r. 6897, a bill to extend the authorizations of federal aviation programs to extend the funding and expenditure authority of the airport and airway trust fund, and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house a communication. the clerk: the honorable the speaker, house of representatives, sir, pursuant to the permission granted in clause 2-h of rule 2 of the rules of the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on october 1, 2018, at 11:45 a.m., that the senate passed senate 2515. signed sincerely, karen l.
haas. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house a communication. the clerk: the honorable the speaker, house of representatives, sir, pursuant to the permission granted in clause 2-h of rule 2 of the rules of the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on october 2, 2018, at 11:04 a.m. that the senate passed without an amendment h.r. 4921. appointment, social security advisory board. signed sincerely, karen l. haas. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house the following enrolled bill. 2269, an act te to re-authorize the global food security act of 2016 for five additional years. e speaker pro tempore:
without objection, the chair lays before the house the following senate concurrent resolution. the clerk: senate concurrent resolution 49, concurrent resolution providing for a correction in the enrollment of senate 2553. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the concurrent resolution is agreed to and the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. pursuant to section 4-b of house resolution 1084, the house stands adjourned until 9:30 a.m. on friday, october 5, 2018.
house you're on c-span, we will take you back down to the pennsylvania governor's debate. the latter we are going up has regulation on the books. >> wire those regulations in place? -- why are those in place? >> regulation makes sense. that is one of the things that a responsible government is supposed to do. we want to make sure that we are creating enough trading -- training opportunities for people to take jobs. one of the things the chamber has been an amazing partner. the state in the last budget has
appropriated tens of millions of dollars to create more systemic education. -- more stem education. we are doing a lot of things to create the training and the skills that the economy really needs. these are the things government should be doing i appreciate the , partnership of the chamber in getting that done. >> let's switch to education. i'm sure you agree that education we provided today is the economy of tomorrow. and an educated society is a more prosperous society, less crime, less poverty and better health care. let's talk about that. the largest share of state spending is for education. mr. wagner, i am going to put you on the defensive for a few moments. in 2015, you said the state
spends enough on schools. thecould lay off 10% of teachers and they would not be missed. then you took a reporter on a helicopter flight over york county to show how well some of the schools were doing. they had swimming pools, tennis courts and modern buildings. then you criticize governor wolf, saying that he wanted to raise taxes to put a billion dollars more into public education. you said we do not need it. the problem's mismanagement of school funds by local government. then you said the problem was that most of the funding was being used for pensions and not making its way into the classrooms. then you revealed your education plan and that called for an injection of a billion dollars into education without raising taxes. it seems to me that you have done a full 180. you started by saying that they do not need any extra money. now i am going to put a billion extra dollars into education.
>> here is a fact. the governor did not put any money into education in the first years of his administration. he did not sign a budget. the legislature did that. only this year did the governor put money into education. if you do not find a budget, the -- if you do not sign a budget, the money is not going there. but here's a fact, approximately $2 billion went into the education system. years, the quarter philadelphia inquirer did a story, probably in the last month, that $1.3 billion went to pensions. we have a pension crisis. we could have solved that pension crisis. first by setting up a comprehensive bill, and he vetoed. the government employee unions did not work. >> hasn't he made pension reforms that you have voted against?
>> at the end of the day, and i don't want to offend my colleagues, it does not do anything. ask people in the financial world. it did not do any heavy lifting. we need to go into a 401(k) program after specific dates. we have a $70 billion pension crisis. you cannot get rid of that unfunded pension overnight. it will take time. >> this is a massive problem. meanwhile in 2016, in one of our pension funds, we accepted a return of 1.29%. when the benchmark goal was seven and a half percent. we overpaid money managers $5.5 billion. nobody wants to do any heavy lifting. that is what we need to start doing. >> a lot of protesting here.
there is a bipartisan effort to do something about management fees. i'm not sure you have been supportive of that. we had a pension reform bill in the washington post editorial page and the washington post editor -- and the wall street journal editorial page thought was really good. we had a liability issue and we need to do something about it. we are doing something that most states are not and that is addressing the issue in a bipartisan way. >>'s been my experience that almost every state in america has an unfunded pension liability problem. but let's talk about education. >> let's just keep playing the violin for the next 10 years. it is an obligation to do something now. >> but it's an obligation and you have to recognize and satisfy that obligation. >> alex, i recognize that, and we have to solve this problem. i have school teachers coming to my office, please do not take our pensions away. the government sector unions
corrections officers, school teachers are all telling their members that if wagner gets elected, he is going to take a pensions away. that is not true. i am the cleanup guy. but i'm telling you, we can do better. to accept 1.29%. governor wolf, you did not do anything about it. >> let's talk about your education plan, since that is what we were going to discuss. you were going to put $1 billion into education. show me the money. where is it coming from? >> i'm going to go to zero-based budgeting. we are going to balance our checks book -- our checkbooks, something we have not done in 30 years. i presented a plan to the governor in 2016. it was a taxpayer caucus report. we presented potential savings between $3 million and $4 billion. we never heard from the staff or the governor. you know what?
we have to turn over every single rock in harrisburg and start finding money. >> you have a structural deficit in this state, you balance budgets by drawing on one time elements. >> that is not true. we have a balanced budget. there was a one time deposit in our budget last year. we had a lot of one time elements and that structural deficit. we have a balanced budget at the end of last year. i tracked the financial condition of the state on a daily basis. we are doing very well right now. >> with regard to education, pennsylvania is not doing that well. of state funds go to k-12
education. most states are 10% above that. some states are 50%. dark are you talking that the proportion of the funding that goes into education state versus -- >> are you talking about the proportion of state funding that goes into state versus local? >> for higher education, it is even worse. forth from the bottom of the 50 states. you have been shortchanging education in this state for decades. the money spent to educate the youth keeps going down and the expenses keep going up. >> can we do more? absolutely. you are right. that is true. are we doing more than we were before? the answer is yes. i put $1 billion back into education. we have a ways to go, but we are on the right track. there are two things that we need to look at.
one is, are we doing enough? yes, we can do more. but are we doing more now than a few years ago? wagner you mentioned that , he did not put any money into education but you have proposed -- >> in the constitution the bill becomes enacted by being signed, or in 10 days becomes law. what you have not mentioned is that education in pennsylvania whenred seven years ago governor corbett knocked off a billion dollars. >> that is false. those were federal dollars. governor wolf went around and told that. it was a lie. governor corbett -- the stimulus money came in during governor rendell's administration.
people need to know that governor corbett did as much for education as any governor. he needs to be remembered for that. he did not cut the billion dollars. it was a billion dollars of stimulus money that came in. they were told, do not hire teachers. they did all that. guess what? here is the problem with the system. the billion dollars is gone. we have nothing to show for it. , and i appreciate your comment that the percentage of dollars, we have a swim coach at one of our universities that just retired, getting a pension of $50,000 a month. -- $15,000 a month. and he has paid up health care for the rest of his life. a great deal. >> there are some people abusing the system. >> there are a lot of people. there is a great story that just came out in the philadelphia
magazine about the drop program. there are councilman and women in the city of philadelphia that can resign their position two days before the election and $500,000300,000 to pension cash fall, and then be elected and swung back into the system. >> we do not have much time left. >> corruption has a lot to do with funding not getting where it needs to go. [applause] >> only enough time to talk about one tax that you have been proposing that the past three years. that is a severance tax on natural gas. pennsylvania the only major producing state that does not have a severance tax. why have you not been able to get that tax put into effect? >> we got it passed the senate two years ago. i'm not sure why it did not get past the house. i will keep proposing it and looking for people to support it. texas, louisiana, alaska,
-- we are the only major national gasper -- natural gas producing state that does not have it. texas, louisiana, alaska, oklahoma, they all have it, but we do not. >> the severance tax would bring in a lot of money. no? >> no. >> who says no, it would not. you have the impact fee and you are telling me that a 6% severance tax would not bring in money? >> i do not know anybody who would be proposing. >> you are not part of the debate. these two are. >> the combination of severance and impact fees would be in charge -- in line with i what other states are charging and it would bring hundreds of dollars to pennsylvania for schools, roads, bridges, things we need
to make the lives better. >> before i get you to make your closing statements, i would like to offer a suggestion to the people of pennsylvania. for this election, forget that you are republicans or democrats. we just had a few heated words about the severance tax. if you believe it would be beneficial and bring in hundreds of millions of dollars that would help with education and other problems in the state, call up the people that are running in your district. ask them a question and say are you in favor of the seventh tax or against -- severance tax or against? if they are in favor say i will vote for. if they happen to be for your party, good, from the other party, vote for them. if you are against the severance tax, same deal. call them up and say, are you for or against? if they are against, vote for them. >> alex, we are the only state that has an impact fee.
the governor does not talk about that. there was a deal done in 2012. impact fee was imposed. he talked about that. >> as he mentioned a few moments ago, you can combine both of them or you can impose -- >> that is not the deal. if you pass a severance tax, it is in the bill. it was voted on and signed by the governor the impact fee goes , away. last year, the impact fee generated $217 million. we are taxing the gas companies. to the people believe we should tax? we are. >> we are not taxing them that much because most are based in texas. >> we are out of time. what did i tell you at the beginning? no booing or hissing.
now you're directing it at me. governor, your closing remarks. >> thank you for moderating this. i want to thank the chamber for actually posting this, and organizing this event, and thank you for running it. democracy, we need does candidates, at least, to show the contrast of the two different visions we have for pennsylvania. minas simple. if you start from where i started three years and eight months ago, pennsylvania was underfunding its schools, we need to do a better job. i have put a billion dollars into our school. ,ennsylvanians have health care some who did not have health insurance three years ago. wehave focused better -- have put money into the rainy day fund for the first time in over a decade and i'm doing it
with integrity. these things matter for our democracy, the commonwealth, and the future. if i have the privilege of continuing for another four years i will continue to put pennsylvania on the better trajectory. for a better future. thank you. [applause] >> we have had a great evening tonight. the people here at the hershey lodge and convention center. the servers, did you notice how they served 1700 meals flawlessly? [applause] >> why am i telling you this? because the kitchens working here, but it is not working in harrisburg. if you think i am kidding, i am an operations guy. i know what it takes to put hundreds of trucks on the street. i know what it takes to have men and women leave when it is dark out. agencies in harrisburg are not working. if i was going to write a book
or produce a movie it would , because government gone wild. do you know what dep stands for? don't expect permits. that is what it stands for. we can talk about gas taxes in pennsylvania. we do have the highest gas tax in the nation. i am ok with that. but you know what? we should not have more potholes than ever in the last four years. there is more trash along the highways. listen. if you do what i have been doing for the last year, over 600 stops, talking to people in truck stops, diners and manufacturing plants. natural gas drill sites. go to elks county to the beautiful visitor center. visit the lumberman museum. going around pennsylvania and talk to the people of pennsylvania. they have a completely different opinion of governor wolf. things are not working and it is about time it changes.
i am not trying to be politically correct and i cannot -- do not need this job or this money. i have a great career. i want to tell you something. i've met some of the greatest people in pennsylvania. they need someone who is going to fight for them. i pledge to people of pennsylvania, if you elect me of -- as the next governor, i will get more done in the first six months that you have seen the last 12 years. i have one other pledge. if i am elected governor, i have this stage. he is not taking it away for me. here is my closing. when i am elected governor, if i do not do anything in four years, i pledge to you that i will change my name to tom wolfe. >> ladies and gentlemen, i want to thank both candidates.
if i have managed to offend both sides, i have probably succeeded. one final word. that is, the answer, the correct answer to the very first question i asked this evening is who is chris long? let's hear it for the candidates. [applause] >> have i upset both of you? live on c-span, the ceo of j.p. morgan chase, jamie dimon, we'll talk about the financial policy with the american enterprise institute president, arthur brooks. at 2:00, hillary clinton at the atlantic magazine conference in washington, d.c., after that we
will hear from former governor chris christie and presidential advisor, kellyanne conway. starting live at 2:00 eastern. here on c-span. the cease and buses traveling across the country, on our 50 capital store. we recently stopped in springfield illinois, and looking forward to the november midterm elections, we are asking folks which party should control congress and why. >> i think the party should -- that should control congress after the election is democrats, it is obvious we need some checks and balances on what is going on in washington. there is so much that is contrary to what i believe is best for the electorate in the united states, so i think with the democrats controlling congress, that will definitely bring some checks and balances to the process, which is much needed. >> i would like to see the republicans retain control of congress in both chambers after this election.
,s a supporter of donald trump i think the republican party will do a better job of advancing the agenda, and the democratic party will obstruct him. >> i want women to control congress. i'm tired of people who do not live my life telling me what i need to do. we need more women in all sorts of powerful positions. in congress, as the president, state and federal. bad fornk it would be the country if impeachment proceedings failed, because they will initiate if democrats i think ie house, would like to see a sweeping so theyic victory, could get in a full impeachment, or to