tv Campaign 2018 Ohio Governors Townhall Debate CSPAN October 5, 2018 12:05am-1:06am EDT
cable or satellite provider. ohio voters will choose republican mike dewine or democrat richard cordray for the next governor. they participated in a hour-long debate in marietta, ohio. this is courtesy of columbus. 2018 ohio to the gubernatorial debate hosted by marietta college and media partners. good evening and welcome to the arena on the beautiful campus of marietta college in southeastern ohio. i am colleague marshall. along with my media partner, we welcome you to this town hall style debate. this debate is brought to you by
nbc four. all of the questions tonight come from you, the voters of ohio. some of the voters asking questions will be live with us in the audience. some of them, you will see on tape and some of them came to us for -- via social media. make no mistake. this is your debate. andblican mike dewine democrat richard cordray. each will have 90 seconds to respond to the questions. each will have the opportunity to make a brief opening statement. might the wind be going first tonight. i asked the audience to join me in welcoming both of these men to the stage. richard cordray and mike dewine. [applause]
colleen: good evening gentlemen welcome both of you. please give us your opening statement. mr. cordray: i want to thank marietta college for hosting us. you have done a great job. a gorgeous day and a gorgeous campus. i am particularly excited about southeast ohio. a lot happened in the last eight years. unemployment eight years ago was double what it is today. potential for some many counties in this part of the state. great opportunities for businesses to come to ohio because ohio will have the cheapest natural gas in the entire world. comingn that we hope is
will create huge investment. with great economic spinoffs. it is important for those in government to make sure that we do the right thing, to make sure that this goes forward. john hughes didn't i have a plan. it is a jobs plan. it is a prosperity plan. it is a plan for children and a plan to have to deal with our problem in regards to drugs. it is important for all the state of ohio come not just for southeast ohio. we want every child to graduate from high school, truly college buddy. -- college ready. to do that, we will focus on childhood development and our career centers. we have great career centers. we are going to have the opportunity to take them to the
next highest level. our planning in regards to drugs , we have a 12 point plan. it will make a difference. thank you very much. colleen: thank you very much. mr. cordray? mr. cordray: thank you to everyone here and everyone watching at home. this is your debate tonight and i look forward to answering your questions. when i get the chance, i will try to focus as much as possible on one topic, health care. it is so important to so many ohioans. preventeen his job to price gouging by drip -- drugmakers. watch, ourine's costs are among the 10 worst in the u.s. and we pay the third-highest to that the bull's of any state in the country. it is no wonder the companies
have given millions of dollars to the mike dewine campaign. he has been detecting them, not you. if you or someone in your family have a pre-existing condition like asthma, diabetes or cancer, you should know this. mike delight took your tax dollars and sent attorneys to court to allow insurance companies to deny you coverage or raise your premiums when you get sick. think about that. he sent lawyers to court to wipe out the medicaid expansion that governor kasich later brought to ohio. we will work to improve health care for all of us. we will battle the greedy .iddlemen to bring down costs we will fight to keep medicaid expansion for the uninsured and we will protect everyone with a pre-existing condition to make sure they do not lose their coverage. there is no issue on which might the line and i disagree on than
health care. there is no issue more important to ohio families. i will stand up for you. his campaign should carry a warning from the surgeon general. electing mike dewine as governor will be hazardous to your health. colleen: our first question tonight -- [applause] colleen: our first question .onight is going to a student she is a sophomore majoring in sports medicine. what is your question? programs, policy changes or measures are you currently working on to keep our schools safe from gun violence? mr. dewine: everyone in a school bus goes by our house and has two of our grandchildren.
john hughes did and i have a plan. it is a plan that we will put into place. number one, we will have a person available, who is a mental health specialist to every student in the state of ohio. important.very we have suicides going up, but toalso have the opportunity find out if someone has a problem early on. we will have a center in on what where we focus is going on in social media to help schools. we have some schools that have already hired people to do this. if there is a problem that we pick up on social media, we will be there to help the school and tell the school. i believe every school should have a school resource officer.
i think a school resource officer brings about several different things. one is an opportunity for that student to interact with the law enforcement officer and it is the production that is there. colleen: mr. cordray? mr. cordray: my wife and i have two team -- teenagers. , youis remarkable to me asked about what we can do to reduce the gun violence and mike dewine never once mentioned the word guns. we have to be more realistic and forward thinking about how to see our -- solve this problem and reduce the violence. we need the leadership to have universal background checks so that guns are kept out of the hands of criminals, mentally ill and abusers. --need to be an bump stocks
ban bump stocks. this is the anniversary of the las vegas massacre. we need to respect the second amendment, but we can also move forward with common sense provisions that will help to reduce gun violence. we should have school resource officers in our schools. i think we need to work with law enforcement to reduce the violence on our streets and in our cities where people are killed by ones and twos each day. problemto face the real in our society, which is how do we reduce the gun violence that is out of control on our streets. [applause] this question goes to you first, mr. cordray. >> good evening. the population is aging, especially in rural areas.
how will you maintain quality of life? thank you for asking that. i will say that as a gold cross ohio, i hear about senior citizens cutting their bills in half. we need to reduce health care costs across the board in ohio. this is back to how important it is for people in our society. what we will do is negotiate more aggressively with the drug companies to bring down the price of prescription drugs. that is very important. we will reign in the greedy middlemen. fight to keep the medicaid expansion that might the wind five against for years,
trying to make sure that it was wiped out across the country. we need to make sure that we keep it in ohio. at the same time, people need to be able to retire with dignity, which means spreading opportunity through the state so that people have a chance to maintain the lifestyle, sable little for retirement and pay their bills. we will work on that and i am governor. excuse me for not answering your question directly for a moment. mr. cordray, unfortunately is wrong. he knows he is wrong. i have come out in favor, throughout my career, in favor of protecting people and making sure that they have coverage in regards to pre-existing illnesses. i can go back and show you in
different campaigns where i have said that and not for that. i will continue to do that. the second day, let me talk about the medicaid expansion. savordicaid expansion, i the medicaid expansion. he thinks that the status quo is good. i would add that it would not be punitive in any way, but rather getting people treatment. if they have a drug problem, try to get them the skills that they need. regard to aging, i apologize, i have to talk about that. we want choices. we want choices for the elderly and we want people to have options that they want. we want them to have the ability to stay in their home, if they can do that. authored the act in the u.s.
congress and i am familiar with all the issues. the next question is for you, mr. dewine. the next question comes via videotape. local 1219. we are having some trouble with the sound. luckily, i transposed her question, so i can read it for you. ,f you are elected governor will you protect ohio's working-class families and retail the right to work bill? yes.ewine: the answer is this is not a debate or fight that we need.
ohio has many issues and challenges that mike dewine and john used it once to take on. this.not need a site like we have a great opportunity for the state to move forward. i am very optimistic about where we are going. about the moment ago skills gap that we are going to close. what our career centers are going to do and are doing already. we are going to the next highest level. regard.a plan in it is a holistic plan. i will tell you about it. you can find it on our webpage. it covers the most important part, prevention and education.
, k-12, vigorous plan every single grade with something that will help them to resist drugs in the future. andas been proven to work is age-appropriate. mr. cordray? [applause] mr. cordray: i have said consistently that i will veto it. that hedid not say is would also like to see this reading put on the ballot to let the people of the state decide. ohio is not a right to work state. this was on the ballot 60 years ago and we voted it down. seven years ago they tried to take away collective-bargaining rights. mike dewine did not come out against that measure. it was voted down by the people.
they are very fair. they understand that we should have good, working conditions for people who work hard every day. i will try you another thing that mike dewine did that i find shameful. people who work overtime, people who come in early or ask to stay late deserve fair pay for that overtime. might the line used your tax dollars to send lawyers to court to impose regulation that would have mandated fair pay for overtime for 327,000 ohioans. thanks to his efforts, those workers are not getting overtime now. that lawsuit prevailed and we are not getting overtime. people who work hard deserve fair pay for fair work, including overtime. that should be the way it is in ohio. [applause] i know it is fun to
clap, but if we could hold the applause until the very end, we would appreciate it. mr. cordray, this question comes from social media. from hall from central ohio. from central ohio. how and why did break his -- prevent it from happening under another attorney general? mr. cordray: i appreciate her raising that issue. -- it has not been portrayed correctly. backing to the office was being tested and returned. however, it came up in july that due to the anthony soul murders,
the cleveland the police -- cleveland police department had sids that had never been -- kit that had never been sent out for testing. we got robotics into the crime labs so we could deal with extra evidence on top of the flow. we insisted that the kids bees -- kits be sent in for testing. it took him seven years to test all those. if i did it in seven months, why did it take him seven years? , itt took him seven years is a bogus claim that i should in less time. they have endorsed me, not might dewine in the governor's race area they know that i will be effective on crime. colleen: your time is up.
inc. you. mr. dewine? -- thank you. mr. dewine? mr. dewine: let me tell you what really happened. you, didid not tell not share with you is that the day that he left office, if there was a rape in your community or a serious crime, no dna was taken to the crime lab. it sat there for a hundred 25 days. , we can turn them around in 24 hours or less when we have to. fundamental difference. let me talk about the old rape kits. i read stories in the cleveland paper about untested rape kits in the state of ohio. mr. cordray did not know about that. when i took office, i was proactive. they were not sitting in the
office, but we knew where they were. i put the group together. and said whathem is the protocol? he said every week it should be tested -- they said every rape kit should be tested. on a huge number of these and we have justice for victims, justice for victims. i am very proud of what we have done. more importantly, there have been justice for those families. colleen: this question is from mark. >> as a retired nurse, i am interested in the best medical care. we have to go to larger cities for expert care. many do not have the means to travel to these hospitals. will you attempt to bring affordable transportation to rural ohioans?
mr. dewine: it is a problem as far as health care. we have hospitals that closed in some of the rural areas. people have to go further and further. we have an obligation to partner with the local community. this is something that i am very concerned about. i understand. i think the nature of that sureem -- we need to make that our elderly have the care that they need. a lot of this comes down to transportation. we have this problem in our cities as well. we have to focus. we have to focus on giving rural communities the help that they need. when i think is the most there is one thing
i say tonight, i would ask you to remember that i am a local government guy. i am someone who started my career as a county prosecutor. i know that the answers do not just lie in columbus. they lie in washington county and communities around here. we will go to the elected officials and say what role can we play to be of assistance to you? mr. cordray: thank you for your question. what are we going to do about the lack of public education in rural areas? he did not have anything to tell you. here is what i will do. we will put a package on the ballot to fire up infrastructure in the state. jobs will be spread throughout the community, not just in a few places, all over the state. infrastructure to me means
fixing roads and bridges. roads. to fix our infrastructure has to be broader than that. access to broadband, which has been promised for years but never delivered. involvesso said it public transit. 27 counties in ohio have no public transit. no way to get there must you have a working automobile or someone will take you. we have no source of funding for public transit in ohio. we need to do that here. it is about how people get from home to work. it is about how they get from home to doctors offices. we need to push forward. i will do that. the next question comes
from thomas johnson who is mayor of somerset, ohio. >> tell you make sure that communities have the ability to attract talent and business? i am familiar with your area. what we willbout do to spread out opportunity across ohio. we have so many towns in ohio that have great quality of life but they need opportunity to thrive. we will support our small businesses around the state. i provided low-cost financing to them when i was treasurer. we help small business across the state. we can do more of that. we also will fire up the
infrastructure, lots of good jobs that will read through the state when we do that. we have not seen anything from washington. we will hold their feet to the fire and get our program in place. we will invest in clean energy that we should be bringing to ohio. , the last eight years they have been taking money at not bringing it back. we will get that money back to your community. >> thank you. mr. dewine: thank you very much for your question. you have a beautiful county and a beautiful community. we can help in several ways. legacies,ll, on the it is a cool that i think we can use very well. , all thement to you
sure thatwe will make they are focused on those counties as well. between you, me, john houston and our team. .here is a reason the state has my cell phone. these are important things. we have to pro-business and pro drops -- jobs. it was going to cost a lot of small jobs and mall businesses. in addition to that, we will focus a great deal on education.
what happens in your career centers, in your high schools is vitally important. we will have less testing. we have more things to talk about later. colleen: the next question comes to us from social media. it comes from pamela, a retired teacher from columbus ohio -- columbus, ohio. what was the delay in investigating the funding issues ecot?con -- were you influenced by contributions? mr. dewine: thank you for your very important question. mr. cordray was attorney general before i was. he took no action. after thetion department of education found
that they were not following the law. we have a lawyer who is going after them. we have won every case in court so far. we are going after not only them, but the people behind ecot. how do we avoid this in the future? you had to look at all my schools as a great option for some parents, but you need to look at it. is do ite going to do with the help of state legislature. the company providing that your child will not get all of it until it is fully determined that your child has gotten the education they are supposed to get. it is good for the taxpayers of the state of ohio. what you find again
wasagain is every problem caused when i was attorney general, but while he was the attorney general, he is somehow not responsible. it does not add up. let's talk about it. there is a lot of accountability that was lacking. this was a charter school that provide its latest dealing millions of dollars from taxpayers. it should have been in the classroom. ands the attorney general responsible for taxpayer dollars. if you cannot do anything about it until towards the end of his term -- how much money have we recovered? zero. how much without the door? $180 million. i got a decision from the bets and you can hold them personally accountable
for the money lost. he should have used that decision, but he did not. he got tens of thousands of dollars in contributions. they have not been returned. his running mate was speaker of the house when accountability was stripped out that would have colleen: stop this from happening. would have stopped this from happening. colleen: this next question on those first to mr. cordray. in marketing.ing he is also from columbus, ohio. what is your question? mr. cordray: what -- >> what programs would you implement to make sure that kids from low income communities are able to attend college, be successful in college and complete their degrees? mr. cordray: understand -- i
understand this is on your mind at this age. let me talk about it. middle classo the in ohio, we need to understand that there are multiple pathways and we need a flexible spectrum. looks open them up more broadly. we need skills training, all things that will make people more viable in the workplace. we also need college affordability. 45th in college affordability. it is not working for the young people and their families. we can better optimized for families how to handle student loans and grants. it is something that we can do in ohio. we can also get more college credit into high schools so you can get a head start and reduce
the cost. we are working to do that and we can do more of that. you can go the first two years at a community college, more affordable, cheaper and you can transfer to a college that is four years. we need to focus on this and understand that if we do not support the young people, our leaders who come out with millstones around the next in student debt, we are cutting off our future for ohio. mr. dewine: thank you for your very important question. i want to say something about the last question that was asked. you might find it interesting that when richard cordray and i ran against each other the last time, ecot gave him money, not me. i don't think he ever gave it back. i'm not really sure about that. very important question. there's nothing more important than the future of our young people. fran and i have eight children and 23 grandkids.
we get the cost of college. i think one of the sad things is we're seeing young people who are graduating from college who have huge, huge debts. that is affecting their lifestyles and affecting the job they take and affecting whether they get married and have children. one of the things i'm going to do is every state college in ohio will have -- be able to have a contract with you or anybody else who goes there that for four years that price of that college is not going up or that university is not going to go up. i will appoint people who are on the board of trustees of state universities so that people can tell them one of our main goals is to make sure we do not raise the cost of college and we need to get that college down. in addition, part of our plan we have a specific raising of the money that would go to young people from the state of ohio who go to ohio colleges not just the state universities but the other colleges as well.
colleen: our next question goes first to mr. dewine from rebecca clutter. you can stand up. she came here from medinah. what is your question? rebecca: ohio is in the heart of natural gas territory. what are your plans for natural gas protection and how does natural gas production play a role in your job creation plan for ohioans? mr. dewine: thanks for making the trip. natural gas is one of the great things that occurs now in the state of ohio. we have to take care of the environment and we have to make sure this is a friendly place for companies to come and expand. if you look at the future of southeast ohio, it is very
exciting. as i mentioned before, the cracker plant we hope is coming to belmont county, that will make billions of dollars in investments directly into the state of ohio. in regards to the shale play that is occurring, the cheapest natural gas you have in the world, so why is that important? it is important because companies here will have cheap natural gas and this will entice others and make us competitively and a great advantage to other states. we will get more jobs that come in here. what we have to do as form and this makes your communities are ready and if they are ready, we have to have young people who are educated, they have to have a skill set, and they have to be ready to go so we can expand that and it will keep going further.
have a point of privilege here. mr. cordray: mike is weak on this question. he actually criticize me because over the course of my time in efice, i received $600 from cot. i return the money to my school, but he has not returned tens of thousands of dollars from his campaign fund. let's talk about natural gas. natural gas is one of the clean energy sources that we can push forward with, much better than some of the other things we can do that is winning in the marketplace right now. we need to fire up more energy production in ohio and i am for all of the above. mike describes the situation and i see it the same way, but that is just description and reporting.
what we need to do in ohio is look for how we can improve our infrastructure and i've got the program i laid out in terms of how we will fire up infrastructure, that will be critical if we bring that production here and win the competition among pennsylvania and other states to make sure those facilities are here. we also need to make sure that resources and revenues from fracking is returned to the local communities who bear the front. that is important and people in ohio understand that. we can i keep returning to the communities, that is critical. colleen: a lot of our questions came from social media, from facebook and twitter, and a lot of people had questions about this next topic. we picked the question we that -- thought was most representative and we are talking about school funding. this question comes from alexis and she is employed by a school system and works for berkeley
city schools. alexis says ohio school funding formula is unfair. it creates massive inequities between districts, it has been declared unconstitutional by the ohio supreme court several times and yet, it persists with no change in sight. if elected, do either of you intend to tackle the situation and if so, how will you do it? mr. cordray? mr. cordray: i have a few good friends who came out of the school system and they had talked about their backgrounds and patrick now works with the foundation in ohio to provide leadership opportunities to high school students so there can rise. these are the things we need to do. does start with fair and equitable funding for our schools. when i was state treasurer, we put together funding to improve the school buildings and facilities across the state and
we made a lot of progress. the legislator never followed with operating funds. betty sutton and i have pledged that the decision was correct and the funding system remains unconstitutional at the horizons of a child feature should not be -- a child's future should not be bounded by the zip code they are born into, nor should the teachers in the classroom be bounded by that either. what we need to do is rein in the failing charter schools, get the money back in the classrooms, $1 billion or more were taken away, let's get that money back in the classrooms. we will work with legislatures to improve the formula which is outdated and needs to be upgraded. we will also work to reduce unfunded mandates that make it so hard for teachers to teach students the way they are trained to do. let's trust our teachers, let's take the shackles off and let them do better work in the classrooms. that is important. all of these things will help create a school funding system and a more effective school system and our teachers at the
heart of it. colleen: time. thank you. mr. dewine? mr. dewine: thank you very much for that question. i will submit a budget to the state legislature that is focused on our poor children and poor schools. that is the budget we will present and that is the budget i can convince state legislature to pass. i have been pretty good throughout my career working with people to get things done, i intend to do that. let me talk about something else before a child goes to kindergarten and that is early childhood development. if you look at our plan, you will find the most aggressive plan in regards to early childhood development that has ever been presented in the state of ohio. we will triple the first year, the number of families that get a home visit, families that get a home visit, these are at risk moms, you will try to reach them when the baby is born early on
in the pregnancy to get health all the way through. after that, it will help the mom to read to the child and do other things that need to be done so when that child gets to kindergarten, they are ready to go, and they are up to the front . colleen: thank you, mr. dewine. this question also goes first to mr. dewine and this question is from deborah. deborah: what would you do to ensure natural water resources are safe for consumption, irrigation, recreational activity, fishing, and general use by the public? mr. dewine: thank you very much. our department of natural resources is a jewel of the state. as someone who likes to camp and fish, this is very important.
something directly relevant to this community. i sued dupont. in what they've done over many years in making teflon products here, they knew there was a problem, they knew it was dangerous, they continued to put it out and we have sued on behalf of the state of ohio. we face other issues, we face an issue at lake erie and somerset certainly in the ohio river valley as well in regard to algae bloom and growth, i support a plan that was introduced to legislature by randy gardner which would be a bond issue, an issue over a ten- year period of time that provides the money and resources we need to clean up our lakes and cleanup our streams that are going in. we have to pull together the agricultural community and the
rest of the community, people who love to fish and love our lakes and streams, pull them together, put a plan together, but you have to have money, we will provide that money with a bond issue. colleen: mr. cordray? mr. cordray: thank you for asking about our environment, our legislature has been so backward on this. goes to clean and renewable energy, and our waterways. we are steps away from the ohio river. we have problems with the ohio river, we have problems with lake erie, and waterways in between. clean water and clean air should be a basic in the state of ohio. the environmental groups have endorsed me and not mike dewine because they know his record for the environment has been very mixed. when he talks about the algae bloom, it's blossomed on his watch. he has not been effective in containing it. there's no plan in place to address this issue. he talks about supporting this and supporting that. there's been no actions.
actions speak louder than words. i have said that we will put a plan in place immediately, it has to be immediate because it will take several years for us to work through. farmers have to be at the table. the state has the right support. our infrastructure plan will also help us to protect the clean water and our community. we can't have a city like toledo, a major city in ohio, have its drinking water unsafe because of algae blooms in lake erie and people in the state office won't recognize that the lake is impaired until very recently. too little too late. colleen: this next question we received so many comments on relating to public discourse. some of the comments we got were kind of angry. i'm going to let you hear from the multiple people on facebook
we got this question from. kevin of central ohio, kenny thomas from central ohio, glenn , from howard ohio, and roy of central ohio, all of them say they are very concerned about the tone of public discourse. here is how glenn fisher put it. there seems to be a growing level of destructive, negative discourse around the political arena that is growing more vicious and less based in fact. each election appears to reach a lower level. we all need each other for democracy and our economy to work. if elected, how do you plan to mend the fence? mr. cordray: everyone who raised this issue is on the mark and a wad of this poor tone and divisiveness and getting people
against each other is coming out of washington. i want to stand for something different in ohio. i went to stand for politics we can respect and be proud of. i want to stand for being able to reach across the aisle and get things done and by the way, i am increasingly optimistic that we can read across the aisle and i can work with legislatures on education. i believe i can work with them on infrastructure and criminal justice reform. i would like to have some path forward rather than a failed status quo year after year with nothing being done to combat it. when i was in the general assembly in the democratic house, we worked together to get things done. i got a lot of bills passed and made a lot of progress. when i was state treasurer, we had a republican legislature and i was a democratic official. we worked on budgets during financial crisis and i worked well on bringing money back from wall street to protect our pension system.
we can do this together but we have to maintain the right tone in our campaigns as well. people have to tell the truth, people can't lie their way to public office, that is not the right answer and voters will be the judge of that. colleen: thank you. mr. dewine? mr. dewine: throughout my career, i have pulled people together. my experience has been when people work together, they can get things done and solve problems. i'm a problem solver. i don't solve problems by myself. when you look at the rape kits, i pulled a group together, they were democrats or republicans,pulled victim rights advocates together with the protocol, you test everyone and i work with the democrats in cuyahoga county. and they indicted over 700 of these people so far. going back to when i was in the united states congress, i got things done.
we were able to pull things together. if there was an issue that had to do with foster care, i worked with rockefeller of west virginia, if it was a case about aids, something we wanted to do about aids, i worked with dick durbin who had a passion to help people overseas or the united states. we pulled that together. we don't agree on everything. chris dodd and i put together some amazing legislation that provided that when drugs are made by the drug companies, that they are tested so that there is a protocol for what kids can take. i have a long track record of getting things done. i will pull people together, democratic and republican, we will make things happen. colleen: time. [applause] this next question will
go first to mr. dewine and will come as a shock to some of the students here at marietta college but people still communicate by letter. we got this letter from guy morrow from newark, ohio. this goes first to you, mr. dewine. he says in view of the devastating business losses, general motors departs dayton and d.h.l. departing wilmington springs to mind and the coda automotive not coming to columbus. i believe candidates should be asked directly. what steps and what we will do if elected to encourage business here in the state of ohio. mr. dewine: guy, thanks very much. that's a right-on question. i will keep taxes down, i will keep regulations rational and reasonable, those are good things we will focus on education because no business is going to come in here unless
they can get people to work and that is a deal stopper. a lot of what john husted and i are talking about is focusing on education and the career centers and when they work together as they do with business, we see magical things happen because kids come out of there and go directly into business. i will be a governor who is focused on jobs every single day. the drug problem is a huge problem and it is not only killing many people, it is slowing our economy down. so many businesses tell me they can't find people to work because they can't pass a drug test. there is a fundamental difference between mike dewine and mr. cordray on this issue. we have a holistic 12-point plan and tragically mr. cordray does not. his plan is state issue number one. and he's almost all by himself, he and the aclu and i'm not sure who else but even the democrat
nominee for attorney general is against state issue one. it is more drugs and more fentanyl. if you live in marietta, ohio, or on the border, they'll be coming over from west virginia and other states. that's what's going to happen. colleen: time. mr. cordray. mr. cordray: the question wasn't about number one. although that seems the only issue he knows to talk about. he has been a grotesque failure, we had 70 deaths per year on fentanyl and last year lost 304 all on his watch. the drug cartels flooded ohio with fentanyl on his watch. what i want to see on that issue is some sort of change. we can't just maintain and double down on the failed status quo of mike dewine.
we have to do something different. it could be issue is one or a legislative package. i will make any progress on it and it's a critical issue. let me go back to the question which was about how we will spread opportunity across the state and make a future here and bring businesses here. i have said that we need to spread opportunities by supporting more effort on our small businesses, firing up our infrastructure, bringing clean energy to our future and bringing money back to our local communities. let me talk about mike's policy. he talks about jobs that were lost 10 years ago during the national recession. it was millions of jobs all over the country. they weren't lost because people weren't working harder, i was attorney general for two years. it was because of his policies in washington and tax cuts for the rich and taking the reins off wall street and bad deals that failed ohio. colleen: time. mr. cordray, this question goes first to you.
this also comes to us via social media. from dana. she says ohio's chronic pain patients are being denied their quality of life opioids because of new controls tied to the states opioid crisis. are you going to untie the hands of doctors and allow them to prescribe medications that they see fit for medical reasons to give to their patients? how are you going to help chronic pain patients? mr. dewine: again, we're back to health care. this is such an important issue for so many ohioans. here we are talking about managing pain. the wrong way to do it is to allow open prescription of -- over prescription of addictive painkillers which is the path we went down. we need to crack down on overtly prescribing painkillers and we need to get those pills back out of our medicine cupboards and get them out of circulation in society. there all other alternatives. medical marijuana has been approved but it has not been implemented.
we need to implement it cleanly, fairly, and quickly, and get that into circulation in the community. we also need other alternatives and this is where by my appointment to the pharmacy and medical board, we can ensure alternates for people. we also need to keep the medicaid expansion which helps people have coverage so they are in the system, so they can manage their pain and manage their healthcare. pushing them out of the system or shrinking down roles would be a bad thing for ohio, it is not the right approach. and as i said, the cost of health care is so important. people talk about managing pain, can they get the right prescription? can they pay for those prescriptions? betty sutton and i will use the negotiating leverage of the state to aggressively fight to keep costs down for people so they can manage their pain. colleen: all right. time.
mr. dewine: first of all, i can understand what you're saying because i had people come up to me in identical situations that you're in. i'm very sorry for that. i'm very sorry for that. it was not the intent for you to suffer. and through your doctor we hope you can find other alternatives. one thing we have to make sure we do is have insurance companies cover other alternatives. insurance companies were very eager to pay for the opiods but not long term work with a chiropractor or other possibilities out there. we have to expand how we look at this. i will tell you how this came about because if you go back about 20 years ago and drug companies told doctors they are wonder drugs and not very addictive. we know they are addicting.
the reason i sued the drugged companies is get money back for ohio to help people who are addicted, to put real focus on k-12 education, so that we can do all the things that we need to do, because they cause this problem and i am the one that sued them, we are going after them, we will make them do everything they can to pay for that. -- to make them pay for that. colleen: this hour has gone by very quickly, that was the final question. we want to remind the voters around the state of ohio that you still have time to register to vote. these two men are in a neck and neck race and every vote will count on election day. they will be meeting again face to face one week from tonight in the final debate, it will take place in cleveland. we thank you for being with us,
we thank our broadcast partner wtap, we thank the college here, marietta college, for hosting this event tonight. and we thank all of you for being such a wonderful audience. again, we remind you, register to vote, pay attention, and we hope you had your questions answered tonight as you heard these men speak from the heart about the issues that are important to you the voters of ohio. i asked you earlier to not to applause but now ask you to give -- i ask you to give these men a round of applause. [applause] >> with the control of congress in question this election day, see the competition for yourself on c-span. watch the debates from key house and senate races. make c-span your primary source for camping 2018. -- campaign 2018.
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