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same time, passed the floor at the same time, and now we're bringing it back here to see if we can get it all the way through to the finish line. the bill is one that we have talked out for quite a while. but it also has, i think, three significant things it accomplishes, why it has to be in bill form and can't be administratively negotiated in some way. the first one obviously is it does nullify certain restrictions that were imposed by the state of california's conservation law. even if that restriction to the land title was not a problem, it also solves the problem that was necessitated because the obama administration b.i.a. appointees in their haste trying to approve a fee to trust land acquisition, they cut some legal corners, they cut a lot of legal corners, which added to a lot of appeals and litigation, all of which cost everyone a whole lot of money. . second thing, it prohibits gaming in this camp four area
which is a concern of the county of santa barbara, when this passes, there a great deal of jurisdiction over the land in that area. and finally what this bill does, is it references the memorandum of understanding between the tribe and county of santa barbara that they negotiated. this m.o.u. addresses the concerns they had and puts it in perspective and will solve a lot of the problems and efforts that have gone on in the past. this is a good bill bringing people together solving certain situations together and solving problems and the last bill we passed, this bill has no significant costs associated to it. mr. lamalfa, you can maintain your status as a true fiscal conservative in the bills you bring to the floor. and with that, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from utah yields back. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. van drew: mr. speaker, i
urge my colleagues to support this legislation. and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new jersey yields back. will the house suspend the bills 317. ss the bill h.r. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended. the bill is passed and without objection, is laid on the table. the gentleman from new jersey. mr. van drew: mr. speaker, i raise a point of order that a quorum is not present. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, further proceedings on this otion will be postponed. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess until 6:30 p.m. today. .
host: john crush are from "national journal" joins us come along with eliza collins. thank you for being here. i will begin with you. let's talk about the two weeks that lawmakers have been back in their districts, in their state spirit what are they hearing from their constituents, and how is leadership alan singh the desire for, by some in the democratic party, -- how is leadership balancing the desire for, by some in the democratic party, with the legislative agenda? guest: the hearing is about the legislative agenda they are not hearing about impeachment.
people are not talking about russia. aids, even the most liberal districts, they were not talking about that. they talk about potholes and the high cost of their health care. that is really what leadership is having to balance, because there are not the members that do want to impact -- there certainly are the members that want to impeach the president. they have wanted to impeach the president, thinking that what was in the mueller report were impeachable offenses. they will have to think about how i -- having to go forward with this robust legislative agenda. there is all sorts of drama surrounding that. there is the need for this -- these vulnerable members and competitive districts, they need to pass legislation that can be signed by the president they have passed a bunch of messaging bills that are going nowhere in the senate, but there is a sense that especially from the moderate numbers, that they need
to have legislative wins that they can go back and say look i worked with republicans. guest: the politics are fascinating because nancy pelosi knows that impeachment is a looping -- a losing issue for democrats. a love democrats do not want the an investigative posture. base that isa clearly -- on the cable news shows, some of those progressive members -- that is going to push the party in an investigative posture. they want to go to the left of where leadership is comfortable with. those tensions will be dominant. you watching for with the ag barr hearings this week? guest: we are not even sure he is going to come to the house. the senate is a friendlier environment. lindsey graham is a republican,
an ally of the president. barrys he will bring in first. thendiciary committee will -- the judiciary committee will then bring barr into they wanted it to be a hind close bars -- closed doors with their counsel. he might not even come in. the judiciary committee is now threatening, or at least likelying, saying it is that the administration does not cooperate, discussing things like finding members of the administration if they do not play ball. this could get messy quickly. 's are waiting and seeing barr schedule. they made the request for mueller to come in. not clear if he will. committee has asked for trump's tax returns, they were supposed to get an answer by may 6. all of these things could be pretty explosive. guest: the tension between
whether barr is going to come on the hill or not reflects the democrats' desires to have the staff attorney questioned the attorney general. and the more talented questioners getting extended time. if they can pin him down, talk about the inconsistencies in his summary versus the mueller report, it can be an effective moment for democrats, giving them political victory. but as you know, with all these political hearings -- with all these committee hearings, it gets very partisan and unproductive. that is what democrats are trying to avoid, and that is why the white house is reticent of having barr testify. host: our viewers who watch the hearings, lawmakers -- they know lawmakers get five minutes to ask questions. .ome take 4.5 minutes , it is theirembers
moment. some are good questioners, but not all of them. and they all get equal time, at least under the current format. host: we will be at the william barr hearing at the senate judiciary committee on wednesday, 10:00 a.m. eastern time, on c-span3. c-span.org also, and with the c-span radio app. eliza collins, talk about the blocking by the white house for these subpoena requests, for these documents. if you can, sort of run through the big ones right now. where is there tension between the democrats and the white house? guest: the democrats have amped up their investigations and requests. one request was to get the president accounting firm to come in for questioning. the white house has actually sued to stop the president's attorney from coming in -- or
accountants from coming in, not attorney. we have got the request for barr, which looks at this moment like he is still scheduled. as we said, that could change. there has been a request for robert mueller. barr has said that currently mueller is still an employee of the justice department. barr has said that he is ok with mother coming in, but we have not gotten any answer on when mueller will come in, if he is going to. there are also the tax returns, ways anddent's -- means committee chairman richard neal made a request for the president's tax returns to the treasury, which is part of the tax code allows him to do that. and the treasury has blown past a couple of deadlines, even when the treasury secretary got back and said we have some questions, we feel like this is partisan. we will get back to you by may 6.
the white house has said no way they are getting the president's tax returns. it is the president's administration, so i imagine may 6 is not just going to be a handover tax return type of thing. week,another issue this democrats would like more focus on, is there medicare for all hearing. they will held the first one -- they will hold the first one tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. when we talked with a viewer this first hour, it was a mix between the mueller report and the investigation and please do something about medicare. politically, what do they need to do? poldoes medicare for all l? guest: health care is a major issue for democrats. hot potator all is a for democrats because you listen to the rhetoric from a lot of the leading 2020 candidates -- namely bernie sanders, elizabeth
warren -- they favor a single-payer option, a government-run elf care program. when you look at polling data, -- government-run health care program. when you look at polling data, the idea of having more benefits, government paying for health care, but when you look at the details, public support drops significantly. nancy pelosi knows that. democrats in leadership and moreand-file members are supportive of incremental legislation that would not overhaul the health care system like some of the more progressive members support. democrats are cautious. they know health care can be a winning issue, but they do not want to talk about the revolutionary plans for 2020 candidates. host: run through what else is on the agenda this week, both in the house and senate. guest: the senate will continue to move through nominations, but they also -- the house and senate have to do something about disaster aid. fight oversically a
puerto rico. the president has taken issue with puerto rico, he says, the way they have spent money and that they are not grateful enough that the -- over what the administrator and has done. blaming thee president, the president is blaming democrats. it is messy. a bunch of states need disaster aid. in another time, this would not be a partisan issue. we have to see some movement on that. house and senate democrats reintroduced a new bill that was fuller, including more recent disasters, and there will be negotiations. there is acknowledgment that something has to be done. we will see that. barr will take up a lot of oxygen. in the house, they are expected to move. they say they will get back into the paris climate agreement. that is something they say they are aggressing -- they are addressing climate change. if not this week, than next,
there will be some movement on the green app. -- the dream act. there is something that the house is pushing through. --ority leader mcdonnell has majority leader mitch mcconnell has introduced a bill raising age for tobacco purchasing from 18 to 21. i think there will be movement for that. where all this partisan bickering is going, we could see major change. host: another big event or meeting that people will be watching, is when the president gets together with speaker pelosi and chuck schumer. that is on the schedule for the president, it is open up to camera -- we will see if it is opened up to cameras. from our republican line, good morning to you. caller: good morning.
in all fairness, i think that underlying our nation, whereby we always claim it is so odd that we are -- underlying that is fairness. does anyone believe that mueller 's team was fair with 18 democrats and tribbett into hillary's da campaign, and one republican? and now that the reports come out, do they think it is fair to take further money and time without passing legislation that will benefit the country? whether you are a republican or democrat or not even involved in politics, we do not have time for this nonsense. let's get on for the country, come together whether we like order not. we do not have to kiss each
other, but let's get on and do something out there. host: ok. bill is talking about the political perils. guest: i think there is a bipartisan consensus before it came out. if you look at mueller's favorability, republicans were relieved that the president was cleared of collusion or any kind of conspiracy with russia. , a wide-open set of facts when it comes to obstruction. ultimately, both sides were content with the conclusion. the big question is how it will be handled in the aftermath. democrats have opportunities to define the president as abnormal in his activities for the russians, postured towards them in the 2016 campaign. heis a hot potato because has risks that you could overreach and focus on the russia investigation, mother report. roy, st. louis, missouri, independent. caller: hello to your guests,
and thanks for this excellent program. i want to sort of point out the obvious, that it is already baked into the population. russia did intervene in the election on behalf of president trump, and the reason why people are not saying it is a major issue is because they already realize it has happened. and the fact is trump has done absolutely nothing to ensure it does not happen again. in fact, he won't even take questions about it from his own cabinet. he will not hear from them. they are told not to talk to him about it because it makes him angry. well, it makes me angry that something like that happened and that it could happen again, because they say it is going to happen again. the reason people are not listing it as a top thing, they
know what happened, they just do not know what to do about it. the president certainly does not plan to do anything about it until the next election. so we are waiting to see if anything is going to happen with the investigations in congress because that is our only option right now since the president vetoes everything that comes to him, or he absolutely d funds people who are trying to fight ds or he absolutely defun people who are trying to fight the cyber attacks. guest: there are some members on both sides of the isles who came out of the report -- both sides of the aisle, who came out of the report, and there were members of both parties who said let's make sure that this does not happen again. coming out, there were statements. there are discussions over at the capitol about how to do that, how to fund programs.
nothing major has passed, but the mother report, there is something that there is bipartisan support for, and we could see some movement because it does allow them to come together in an otherwise bipartisan issue -- an otherwise artisan issue. democrats.m marilyn, -- j from maryland, democrat. caller: not to take away from your guests today, and i know that you all do not take any ratings as far as demographics and so forth. -- i think it is absolutely shameful that we have newspapers, and i never see any representation from those medias, including howard university. my question is, my comment, joe
biden is pretty much the czar of mass incarceration that has grief,so much hardship, anxiety, and the black community . and for anybody in the community who would even vote for him, yeah, it is wrong what happened moreanita hill, but even greater impact that has spanned generations is him being the author of that crime bill. for him to even be considered is just ridiculous. jay, josh crush kraushaar withush more. theer: if you look at
polls, african-americans support joe biden more than any other candidate. the big question is, his position to the center of party that potentially alienates black is the close relationship between him and president obama good enough to win the lion's share of african-american voters? of bottom line, the votes african-americans, he needs that to be successful in the democratic primary. there are aolina, lot of key elected officials including james clyburn, in elected leadership. he needs strong support to win the nomination of the african-american community. c-span3verage begins on , c-span.org, to listen to the folks -- to what he has to tell
the folks there on c-span radio. you can get the app for free. kraushaar. it is the first 24 hours. how did he do this week with fundraising? guest: he raised more money in the first when he four hours than any of the other presidential candidates, including bernie sanders. about 6.5 million in the first day. you should expect the former strongerident to have connections than other political candidates. you have bernie sanders and elizabeth warren who some donors.f they want something one who is electable against president trump. but the big test over the three month period, how many small
donors, biden has never had as much success with that group. host: eliza collins, what are you watching for as the vice president unveils his third bid for the white house? guest: well, the vice president has experience, right? he has been in office for a very long time. he has lots of legislation that people can cling onto as either failures or successes, unlike some of the other candidates. , inre seeing pete buttigieg his 30's, that is half the age with much less experience. so i am curious to see how joe biden does with this very long history that people can cling onto. as josh mentioned, he is the former vice president who has a large donor base, but this is a different time. bernie sanders came into 2016 and shook the whole fundraising world with grassroots money.
a lot of the other candidates have followed suit by swearing off big money. biden is not able to do that. so how is he able to fund raise, and who is donating to his bid? it is interesting to watch right now. it looks like the front runners are joe biden and bernie sanders, who are very different. so what groups are the democratic party aligning themselves with, each one? host: don from mount victory, ohio, republican. caller: how are you folks? my question, i am going to keep it in health care, although i have a lot of questions for you folks and your business. i think one of the problems in this goes with health care. you said earlier, one of you did, that people do not like to get into the details. well, that is where the answers in the problems are, in the details. inn will one of you folks the journalism business, who, for the people who clamor for
health care for all, get down and ask them questions about, this is a price control procedure -- a price control, procedure can come home -- procedure control, and my question concerning politicians who want health care for for all -- is it going to affect them? washington people too often impose their ideas upon the rest of the people and do not live by what they vote for. so in health care for all -- and i am going to pick on aoc here because she seems to be the whipping post for things to go wrong, and i do not agree with her policies at all. in fact, i think she got cheated at boston college where she went. is she going to get the same doctor that is going to be put upon the people who get health care for all? the house rules committee
takes the subject up at 10:00 a.m., i believe, tomorrow. collins,gine, eliza that lawmakers are going to be asking some of these questions. caller: absolutely. they will have those five minutes to ask those questions. people on both sides of the aisle will be able to ask actual professionals who understand the topic very well, on both sides of it, what it means, how to pay for it, who will be affected. we will get a lot more answers this week at the hearing. proposal, legislative proposal,re for all is bound to deal with resistance from voters. voters do not like change. we are incremental. anytime you propose something with a wide reach on the public -- president obama learned this technocraticairly obamacare, which gave more coverage to folks who were uninsured with pre-existing
conditions, but he dealt with huge opposition from not just republicans, but from voters who did not like change. guest: i will point out the democratic party is not all aligned around this. the actual members of congress are very divided on this and have been. i was out covering the 2020 election, as josh was as well. talking to more vulnerable members, they were very unhappy with the proposal and wanted to focus on bolstering obamacare, lowering the cost of prescription drugs. we have the hearings on medicare for all, but they have also introduced legislation that would help bolster obamacare, and that is probably where leadership will be moving first because the majority of the caucus is not actually on medicare.
host: from new jersey, democratic caller. caller: good morning, everybody. i am a registered democrat. i voted for obama. i voted for trump. i absolutely love the man. he is shaking up all of washington, draining the swamp. but what i cannot get over with the news media is you are not following through. you want to talk about the russian collusion, but you do not follow through with what hillary did. i do not get how you are not talking about hillary, buying the dossier, paying for it. the woman is corrupt. i know you know it. you want to spend taxpayer dollars and time investigating hillary clinton, even though she is not in office anymore, because of why? caller: because she started this
whole thing. one in spite, she was so devastated. that woman took a hit and she could not even come out to concede the election. she had a nervous breakdown. when you see her now, she is horrible. you could see it on her face. you see it with everything she is doing. she is so bitter, angry. she did all that she could do to not only not get trump elected, just like she did with bernie sanders in that election. but you have got to look at what she accomplished here. host: i will leave it there. laura, choi, michigan. independent. caller: good morning. c-span, before i voice my opinion, i want to thank you for book tv. i have read more books that i never would have even thought about due to that wonderful program. host: that's great. caller: i have a couple of comments to make.
if a lie is repeated often enough, sometimes people think it to be the truth. mueller group of attorneys are not all democrats. i do not know how many times i have heard people review how often some of them, most of them, are republicans. it does not make any difference. if you are honest, you are honest, whether you are republican or not. another thing that drives me crazy is, the attorney general is supposed to follow the law, not the law as he sees it. another thing is that donald his health,mpeting how joe biden is sleepy i'd and everything. something donald trump has forgot to mention, as far as his
wonderful health, he forgot to mention that he is definitely obese when i saw a picture of him playing golf with rush limbaugh, used to be kind of a chubby guy, donald trump is now chubby or than rush. donaldet's talk about trump second term here. how is it looking? guest: right now, the president is a front runner as presidents tend to be. he had a really hard time getting over a 45% approval rating, which means it makes it difficult to win the white house. 2016hat did not happen in -- but what is happening that did not happen in 2016 is a giant operation. he is fundraising. it has been reported in politico about how republicans who swore off him in 20's 15, supporting int romney and jeb bush, -- 2015, supporting mitt romney and
jeb bush, they are not only donating to him, but he has a strong staff behind him, and he is the president, so name recognition, he needs no help there. people know who he is. we heard from callers who really support him. you will have to figure out -- he will have to figure out how to get his approval rating up and get some of those voters in the middle, some of those independent voters. that depends on who democrats nominate. ushaar, hiskras approval rating? guest: his campaign strategy relies on rallying that base. like him, republicans will show up and organize for him. , he knows thaty he won in 2016 not because people loved him but because
people viewed hillary clinton as being less palpable. he is hoping that democrats nominate somebody who is too extreme, someone like bernie sanders, who is far to the left. with a good economy, do i really want to take a risk with someone talking about pretty progressive policies? california, arom republican. welcome to the conversation. caller: good morning. i would like to know when the democrats are going to stop it with the lies about the so-called manufactured crisis at the border? i was at the border in san isidro there there is nothing manufactured about this crisis. it is real or they are pouring in left and right. i do not understand how it is that the democrats are posing -- closing their eyes to the crisis going on in california and texas and arizona. when are the democrats ever going to do some work?
all of this investigating on trump is ridiculous, and it is just taking taxpayer money, throwing it down the toilet, because we know there is nothing there. they hate trump because he is an outsider, and they hate trump because he beat them at their very own game. kraushaarll have josh give us an update. where are we at the border wall with the efforts with funding? guest: we are getting nowhere because democrats and republicans are miles apart. the dreamers, for example, children of illegal immigrants, are looking for legal status. jared kushner, interestingly, has floated a proposal that skilledioritize immigration, as opposed to family connections with those in the country. could the jared kushner wing of
trump world -- it is much more supportive broadly of legal immigration, and they are more likely to view some type of deal as opposed to hardliners like stephen miller. but the odds of immigration -- we have been talking about immigration, a comprehensive deal, for over a decade. the odds of that happening under trump seem as remote as ever. mentioned you dreamers, those who have come to the u.s. as children for a long -- it wase president rewarded and that is a sticking point. it used to have republican cosponsors, and now there is broad support from both parties to not pick those people out, how long they should stay, whether temporary or permanent, has completely broken down. so we are going to see democrats bring up that legislation in the house, and they are hoping to
press some republicans on the senate side. few months ago, we had a government shutdown over the wall. that was a huge, the longest shutdown on record. the president wanted more money for his wall. the democrats in congress would not budge. we had a divided government. both sides dug in their heels, and in the end, the president got less than $2 billion for his wall, less then what was originally offered six months before from democrats. that is where we are. everyone's heels are dug in, and they cannot agree. host: there is another spending deal that is necessary to make, looming over lawmakers as well. explain what is happening there. guest: the government funding runs out in the fall. it took a long time for them to be able to hash out how to fund
all of these government agencies. but a lot of it is very bipartisan. last year congress actually passed more sections of the funding bill than they had in a very long time. but the sticking point was the department of homeland security and that wall money. allgovernment set down not of it, but the agencies that they could not get funded, because of a fight over one tiny section. so all of this other stuff, there was very strong bipartisan agreement. appropriators agree on a lot. they really work well together. that is one of the few committees left that is very bipartisan. they might be able to hash out most of this, but hot button issues like immigration, especially with this president, who has made that his one signature issue, it is going to be difficult. if they were not able -- if they were not able to do it before and they still had divided government, i am not sure that
they will do it now. host: climate change legislation is on the floor this week, dealing with the paris climate deal. is this the green new deal? guest: absolutely not. this goes to the medicare for all argument. that they are the progressive wing of the democratic party that would like to make these massive changes to the whole system. the green new deal is that. we are talking about congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. this is her legislation and it would be huge overhaul to the country's infrastructure and how it deals with climate. that does not have. party -- that does not have full party support. but the party would like to go back into the paris climate accord. it is unlikely mitch mcconnell will bring this up in the senate, but it is something where they do have agreement. it is a very modest step or at how speaker pelosi does not --
it is a very modest step. says thatker pelosi other committees will have a piece of the climate conversation i interviewed her last month and asked about the green new deal. she very promptly dismissed it and said that is not even a legislation. it is just a budget idea. she said they will do actual pieces of legislation that are kind of hard bills that they can do, the first one getting back into the paris climate agreement. host: the politics of climate change headed into the 2020 election. guest: it is challenging because people innately support tackling climate change. they realize the mistakes, but republicans and even independents do not even want to take the steps to mitigate. not only do democrats and republicans have different views on how to deal with these issues, but they often do not know what the top issues are
anymore. republicans look at national security, immigration -- they will put them in the top three. democrats put climate change in their top three. republicans do not even think it is an issue. so you talk about the divide in congress. not only is it difficult for them to solve problems, they do not even agree on the significance of climate change urgency and dealing with it as democrats believe. host: from west virginia, a democrat. caller: i have several comments. first, the lady in california -- as a democrat, i am concerned about the crisis at the border, but i see it as a humanitarian crisis. i also see that the wealthy have exploded the people of south america and their resources. second thing, there is so much vitriol on both sides. you get on facebook and you are talking, and as a democrat, i cannot even say that i think
melania trump is a good mother because she takes care of her son and keeps him out of the spotlight. i am bombarded with stuff. well, the third thing i want to say is, in the original what they call obamacare, it has a part where you could buy into medicare. the republicans had it stripped out, and they would not even vote for it. so my thing is, we should be able to have people be able to then if medicare, and they want to pick up extra insurance, they can. change, welimate have to as a nation start doing something. even the simplest things like we used to have recycling in our town. there is no recycling. everyone-- well, not -- but there was a lot of put in
there to be recycled, and we do not even have that. that is my comment. beach,tephen, west palm florida, independent. caller: hello. can you hear me? host: yes, go ahead. caller: i want to bring up some things. i know quite a bit about government and politics, and i thought about this stuff, why we keep having these same debates over again. i think there are basic principles of good governance that we seem to be violating over and over again. we are confused why we have all this conflict. let me give you an example. with the health care law, the whole idea was to put all these people in a pool so that we would drive down the cost of health care for everybody. instead, they skyrocketed for everybody. please do not tell me that was going to happen anyway. so what does that represent for somebody? if you are somebody who has to get health care -- just about all of us do -- what does it
represent? it represents an indirect tax. taxation without representation. nobody said that was going to happen with health care. second, when it comes to these principles, we hear constantly about -- you hear patty murray all the time, a budget is a values-based document. government is not about ethics and values and morals. how do we know that? is there a good foundation for that in our system? yeah. forbids anxpressly established religion by the government. host: you are breaking up a little bit there. guest: caller: part of th -- guest: part of the challenge of governing in washington is that parties are divided on values. issues likes to health care and immigration,
you're dealing with divided values that cannot be papered over so easily. health care, even when satisfied with health care and people like the status quo. in people are satisfied with obamacare, which is remarkable. that is a lesson for congress. you do not want to upset the apple cart too much you want to make incremental change. health care is going to be an issue in 2020 because they have a democratic nominee who is calling for more widespread change, calling for all. host: eliza collins, this meeting between the president and the democratic leaders in congress -- it is expected to be tomorrow on infrastructure. where are they with having some side of -- some sort of bipartisan agreement? guest: when you talk to both sides of congress, they insist this is one of the topics they can get something done on.
the white house says the same thing. withw the report come out all of this mudslinging. out of that, the president announced they would be meeting on infrastructure. so it is something they seem to feel they can block out the noise on. the problem is that when they get down to it, there is disagreement on how to pay for it. again, it is not something you can paper over easily. both sides agree something needs to be done with the country's infrastructure, but how they proceed is a real breakdown. democrats say they are working on legislation that should be out this summer. i am not really sure what is in it, and i am not sure -- they say they are working out legislation. it is very critical here. there are reports that the president is willing to spend big on infrastructure, but that would put him at odds of his own party, who does want different pay for it. we will have to see how this comes out. i am not sure we will be able to
proceed in this narrow lane when all this controversy is swirling around. we can see that congress is finding members of the trump administration for not showing up for subpoenas. i just do not see how that does not affect legislation. host: we will go down to macon, georgia. tony is watching their, a republican. caller: how are you all doing? i used to be a democrat, but i switched to republican because one of the things that affected me was obamacare because i am retired, a business owner, and i pay out of pocket for my insurance. thatemocrats are the gift keeps on giving. there is medicare for all, reparations, the green new deal. they are going to be the gift that keeps on giving for trump. as aitch mcconnell -- leader, he did not do anything on immigration. liket feel as a republican
our senate is being held up because of people like mitch mcconnell. can you speak to that? guest: the caller respects a pretty -- the caller reflects a pretty sizable constituency. they do not like mitch mcconnell or republican leadership. when you look at the loudest voices, there is a line on cable news, far light or -- far right or far left. most polls show that they are in the middle. i think there is a hunger that whichever candidate comes up in the primary can be more pragmatic. whichever candidate is more in the middle, more in the mainstream of the country. host: mitch mcconnell is up for reelection in 2020. has he changed the way he conducts himself as majority leader when he faces voters in two years? guest: he always has a
challenge. kentucky,s, even in are not the strongest for republicans. but he has -- he is a very savvy tactician. democratsady -- the -- there was a tough campaign in a republican district. she is talking about a possible challenger. but mcconnell money and savvy, he has been able to win a bunch of campaigns in kentucky. that will scare away a lot of the democratic opponents. has hishile mcconnell critics, he has grown support in the republican party because he is aligned with the president. he has been able to push through a massive number of judges and rework the whole system of the court. he got brett kavanaugh on the supreme court, which was quite a fight.
while he and president trump disagree on a lot of things, they have been able to push that aside. -- that has earned him some respect there. was going to say, the opening video of mcconnell plus reelection campaign mentions cavanaugh, cavanaugh, cavanaugh. that went over with the base and with swing voters. host: a democrat, hi there. caller: yes, hi. hi, c-span. how are you all doing? i am a moderate democrat. different sides of the fence. i have been with the federal government since december 1, 1973. by keeping it under my belt. a nutshell, this fall, i
have been studying. legal, some dear to our hearts. none,mes they take sometimes they take $4.50 an hour. sometimes they may get their off.rs cut it doesn't make me become a moderate. , louisianathe wall to the west tip of california. host: we understand you are for the wall. what are you getting at? guest: this is it. the solution in those days was, illegals could have working
wage., get minimum they could skip that job, go to another job. that was the solution. that was the idea. host: eliza collins, let's talk more about immigration. jared kushner has a plan, and when will we learn more about it? guest: it is supposed to come out, i believe, over the next month and he has said that he has united multiple different wings in this administration, which there certainly are many wings on the immigration issue. what kushner does have, which many people in the administration do not, he has experience actually working with lawmakers on a bipartisan basis to pass major legislation. he works on criminal justice reform -- he worked on criminal justice reform for quite a long time. and republicans sat at a table and hashed it out.
that is one of the only bipartisan pieces of legislation that passed in congress during the president's term. i do not know if the immigration plan -- i think it is a tricky issue. -- withde room justice criminal justice reform, there was more success. in the crosshairs of the mueller members of congress sat in the fight. i am not sure what is in the bill. host: we will go to jacksonville, north carolina. jackie, independent. caller: hi. here is what i think about at least health-care. -- they spend $10 trillion on nafta -- on nasa.
people, we do not need nasa. we need health care. hospitals,ent pharmaceuticals, research should be done by the government. that way it is cost effective. people will go to the doctor once or twice a year. prevention will help you, you know. you go to the dentist twice a year. you do not get a mouthful of cavities. all your teeth do not fallout. if you find out you are diabetic, you can take cautions -- you can take precautions. the hospitals, the research, the pharmaceuticals, and the insurance companies are just making billions and trillions of dollars off of people who get no benefit. host: that is jackie, in jacksonville, north carolina. an independent who says she
wants congress to work on health care. we are talking about the week ahead in congress. on the agenda, several things -- climate change, infrastructure meetings or you have william barr testifying both before the house and the senate judiciary s.mmittee and there is a back-and-forth over subpoenas. done in lynchburg, virginia. republican. good morning to you. caller: good morning. i believe in global warming. other than that, we would be in the ice hp the biggest cause is we have cut down trees. it releases oxygen, which is what we want to have. in the 50's, you could look over the countryside and find a
smokestack. we were producing more pollutants in the 1950's than we are now by a longshot. one comment. in the last 10 years, we have had about seven of the coldest winters in the north american and european arctic at have ever been reported. they have only been reporting maybe since the 1870's, but we have seven of the 10 coldest winters ever. the global ice cap is coming back in the last 10 years. it has not receded. host: got your point. fred in pennsylvania, a democratic caller. caller: yes, ma'am. i am worried about why nobody is talking about social security and medicare and why they are going to fund it. they should be cutting the tax cuts of bush and trump. they should raise the age to 70 with no early out. a 5% raise on the tax of your social security.
on the payroll check. i think there is no reason why -- they are talking about this foolishness with mueller and all these other things when they should be talking about the biggest economic bomb that is going off if they do not have money to pay for social security. host: let's talk about it. guest: that is always the biggest political challenge for both parties. raising the social security eligibility age or cut benefits, neither party wants to engage in that. in the past, paul ryan, a former speaker, that was his big issue when president trump came to office. really criticizing that type of mentality. no party would be willing to touch this. you need bipartisan support whenever you're going to take something away or raise an entitlement age there there is no appetite in congress now. no one wants to eat their
vegetables, and in this environment, it is hard to see how entitlement reform or any of those structural reforms will be done. medicare by 2026, social security a few years after that. guest: as josh said, this is an onue the president ran protecting, so it makes it very difficult for his own party to break with him. republicans have been sounding the alarm for a long time on this. this was house speaker paul ryan's big issue. this is the one thing he felt like he was not able to accomplish when he left. the white house saying that he is going to protect these issues, in congress -- and a congress that is very partisan right now with lots of other things to talk about. it makes it easier to avoid this issue. but we are hearing alarms that congress needs to do something. host: robert, arkansas, democrat. caller: i am glad we are talking
about entitlements. we need to look at the andnition of "entitlement," i understand it as government subsidies. for some reason, we only limit that to welfare, social security, food stamps. when you look at it, businesses, lunches, mar-a-lago -- all of that comes back in a tax credit and a subsidy. i am sure you all have defined benefits in your plans. what is happening, there are people who do not have that opportunity. yet we see people -- what i see as missing and the real hypocrisy -- social security has a limit. food stamps, medicare, medicaid -- they have limits on your income. but when you get to the more defined benefit programs, there is no limit. you can make millions of dollars and still take advantage of having your meals paid, your
housing, your automotive. all of these. my question to you -- do you two make enough money that you could do without your subsidies? and if not, how much money can a person make and get no subsidies? i will take my answer off the line. host: would either one of you care to answer? guest: in the form of deductions, if you're talking about the tax cut bill that passed congress and is now law, the big challenge is that reformers wanted to cut these deductions in the favor of a flatter tax. there were tax cuts. i think in the case of taxes, it is more a case of deductions people than favor favoring avenger industries. tom, an independent.
caller: i do not know if there is any research being done on eligible voters in this country what, why they do not show up to vote. guest: the midterm turnout in the 2018 elections is as high as we have seen since 1914, over 100 years. so under president trump, that may be changing. younger voters, voters who have shown engagement, have become more engaged. that is a big question for the next presidential election. who shows up? turn up -- turnout has been up. it is on the rise. in 2018. i would expect very high turnout in the 2020 election. host: let's start with both of you answering the stories you are following this week.
guest: joe biden's announcement. i think the first month of his campaign is going to test whether he has what it takes to be a front runner to really show that he is the most electable and centrist democrat in the field. if he doesn't prove his mettle than this could be a wide-open affair. this is going to go a long, long time. gets backgress tonight. i'm really curious about this a discussion on impeachment following the mueller report. we have seen some reaction to the mueller report but they have been able to avoid reporters. they weren't hearing about impeachment at home so what do they do now and are they able to ,o the parallel tracks infrastructure, health care at the same time as conducting what's going to be pretty messy oversight? host: if you want to follow eliza collins reporter -- reporting, usa today.com.