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line spending levels. so the fact that budget cap talks are actually kicking off is hopefully a positive sign. we have the four corners, nancy pelosi, kevin mccarthy, mcconnell, they're all getting together next week with officials from the white house. i believe acting chief of staff mick mulvaney and treshy secretary steven mnuchin will be involved. you know, we had a story earlier this week that the president himself is open to a deal that would raise discretionary spending caps for defense and nondefense spending, but you're getting all these messages from some of his senior advisors, like mulvaney and like the folks over at the office of management and budget saying we want to adhere to these strict caps. discrepancy ort of at the moment in messaging. this is hopefully positive. >> we'll continue to follow you on twitter. the hander@caitlinzemma.
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and your reporting at "politico." thank you for joining us. >> next, house foreign affairs ranking member michael mccaul talks about u.s. foreign policy, including the north korea nuclear talks, iran's nuclear threats, and u.s. relations with china. held earlier today at the heritage foundation, this is 50 minutes. >> so i already introduced you nd you were great. i'll start with this question even though it's not un-- one of the things we talked about. so that was j.b. he's our air force expert at heritage and i brought him in and it was some of the things i
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thought would come up anyway. not to throw a curveball at you, but the issue we were talking about was we have this situation which has come before your committee where we have in one case a strategic partner, india, talking about -- in the other case we have the turks who have purchased but not taken possession of an s-400 and we have i think a very clear u.s. policy now that this is just incombatible, that the s-400 and f-35 won't be both controlled by an ally in the same theater. and so i would be interested in kind of your take on this tug and also the role that you think congress will play in dealing with in it? mr. mccaul: well, the distinction is that turkey is a nato ally and nato was formed initially as a defense against the soviet union. and so when eliot engel and i met with the foreign minister
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of turky we made the point, look, you're a nato ally. and you're buying russian s-400's. and by the way, that violates the russian sanctions that congress passed so it's your question about what congress is doing. eliot and i put together a resolution that will be i think on the floor next week ondemning our nato ally, turkey, from purchasing the s-400 from russians, violating the nato principle and we hope -- i know in talking to the administration, putting a lot of pressure on them. that they will back off this deal and we offered, and we offer in the resolution, our patriot missiles, they can buy our patriot missiles and not the s-400. we hate to see turkey go down
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this path and i think it would be a dangerous move for them. james: well, thank you for being here. mr. mccaul: thanks, jim. james: what i really want this to be as open as possible and you're willing to take questions from the floor? mr. mccaul: sure. james: in the time we have and -- mr. mccaul: sorry i'm late. we had votes. votes always get in the way. james: and really give you a chance to kind of lay out what your agenda is for the committee. and so if my questions don't get to that, please feel free to ignore them and make sure we get it on the table. do i have a couple things i know we want to talk about. one is an issue that's always been very close to you which is e -- and i think some in the administration has done well is the middle east security structure and one of the things that eats like that as an acid is this b.d.s. campaign. i know it's something you
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personally taken a lot of interest in. what's the role for congress in dealing with that? mr. mccaul: well, one of the first bills i introduced with my new head on as leader on foreign affairs was the israeli assistance package, the jordanian assistance package, the anti-assad sanctions, and then the b.d.s., the boycott divestment sanctions bill. and the senate, in very short order, introduced a companion .nd passed it in february i thought eliot engel is very pro-israel and is very anti-iran. i thought this thing would've been marked up in short order just like the senate. we had 77 senators senators vote for this bill, bipartisan, and unfortunately that did not happen. we could not get it to the markup, so now we we're using
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the procedural mechanism which is called a discharge petition. if we get 218 signatures we can put this bill on the floor for a vote. that's where it stands right now. i think certainly, i mean, israel is in a rough neighborhood and we have to defend and assist israel. they are also from a technology cybersecurity standpoint, they are very advanced. they're a great ally for us in the region. it's a $30 billion package over 10 years. we have jordan ally and then deal with assad and his regime, what he's doing. we're hopeful that get the signatures, this will go for. b.d.s. -- my home state already passed legislation. basically says any state that does not want to play along with b.d.s. can do that. t's kind of a states' rights issue, and no federal preemption. i want to try to get at
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the top issues and that if you're okay we'll open it up to the floor. before i do that you were an outstanding leader in the house homeland security committee. one of the things that took up more than a little bit of time was issue of border security and immigration enforcement, which also impacts on what you do at legal immigration reform, whether that's an injustice. you've been, i think, up close and personal with this issue almost whether anybody in congress the last couple of years and am interested in your reaction to the president's speech yesterday and we think this whole debate is going. mr. mccaul: i was there yesterday. i met with jared kushner. he put this plan together with leader mccarthy yesterday, and it's a tough issue. any time try to tackle this, you get battle scars. as you know chairman goodlatte nd i had a bill, the
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goodlatte-mccaul bill that had border security, merit--based immigration, legalized daca and, unfortunately, it failed by 20 votes. i could do sort of a postmortem on that that would take 30 minutes. there were some i think things that were not done right. i think messaging-wise. it could've been done better and it's unfortunate because we had the opportunity to get this thing done. i think in this congress with pelosi and having lost the majority i don't see a lot of prospect for that. i think the bill the president is outlining now is very sort of positive, intelligent, respective. that is they take my border security bill, which secures the border and then they reform the visa process where it's not a random lottery. it's not random process but it's more merit and skilled based. a little bit of the -- i think
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they broke -- i've always been a proponent of high skill bill where they have broken i think in a positive direction is to allow people who are educated in the united states, particularly engineers that we need, scientists, to be able to stay in the united states instead of their country of origin but rather stay here. i think it's a very smart immigration plan and smart border. technology is a big piece of it that i've been pushing. the president has backed offer the 30,000-mile wall. technology, where it works in my state with rivers and canyons and all that. i think we're getting there, but do we have the votes in the house? under the current political climate i think would be very difficult. james: the president talked about that in the speech, i'd love to do
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this but if -- i will come back in 2020 and do this. it will be interesting as a reaction from washington yesterday, but they're not the american people. it will be interesting to see at the american people react to taking what you did and adding some stuff to it and if people, if there's a real constituency there for this reform agenda. so you are one of the building blocks for that. we'll see how it goes. mr. mccaul: i applaud jared kushner for taking this on. he brought a very intelligent -- i think the language is better. to your point, it may be more of a messaging document going into 2020 and let people decide what they want. james: lightning round. let's start with iran because we are going to have war and if not, what you want to tell us about iran? mr. mccaul: i hope we don't have a war. iran is kind of like iraq and afghanistan put together. it would be very difficult. however, they're desperate.
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i think the president made the right move pulling out of the jcpoa, the iran deal. the sanctions are having an impact. they're getting more desperate now, and now they're asking the europeans, look, abide by the deal i will start rebuilding the arak facility in 60 days. at the same time we have specific and credible threat against our military in iraq using proxies. the head of the quds force met with the iranian shiia militias and hezbollah and said, prepare for war. and so in response to that intelligence we have put several of our ships into the persian gulf along with everything that comes with it, all the assets, to adequately respond. i think we can hit their nuclear facilities without putting troops on the ground. i would not recommend an ccupation of iran.
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james: do you feel we're ok right now? mr. mccaul: it's kind of like when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar and you take it. iran, they know that we know. once they know that we know i think they will kind of back off a little bit. don't think it's in their best interest to do that. they know, you know, you have 100,000 diplomacy going into the persian gulf, that would be our naval ships, that's a strong statement. james: two more real quick and then with it would open to the floor so be ready. if you have a question raised your hand and wait to be recognized. just state your name and affiliation, that would be awesome. also, wait for the microphone so you can get your -- get your -- everybody can hear your question. so venezuela, where are we? where are we going? is there a road for a congress there? mr. mccaul: i took a trip down with eliot engel. 50,000 people cross from
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venezuela into colombia every day. 3,000 to 5,000 stay in columbia. -- stay in colombia. it's unsustainable. it's the biggest humanitarian crisis in western hemisphere. it's all caused by one man and that's maduro. the socialist dictator. if anything can speak to the downfalls of socialism, to those who tout the greatness of socialism, take a look at venezuela. look at the destruction. they have destroyed what was one of the richest, most prosperous nations in the western hemisphere by bringing socialism. chavez and maduro into venezuela. where are we now? you know, guaido is a legitimate president. maduro, there was a -- we thought a coup that was going to take place where the head of the supreme court, the head of intelligence, they met the -- let the opposition leader to go. maduro was actually on a tarmac getting ready to fly to havana when the russians intervened
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and persuaded him to stay in venezuela. there is a lot of talk on the left about united states intervention. the only intervention, for intervention i see are the cubans, the 20,000 security officials in venezuela propping up the military and maduro, and the russians. . the russians have put military assets in the likes of which we have never seen. there's a lot at stake. if democracy and the people of venezuela prevail it will impact cuba, nicaragua, bolivia, the rest of latin america i think is going in the right direction in way. u.s. james: last question, lightning round. the debate over huawei and the
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executive order, what we should do about the chinese investment infrastructure or just more . oadly in chinese mr. mccaul: china announced initiative, dominance by a military power by 2030. it's been deceptive but i think people are waking up to the fact that we are everywhere. when i go to latin america, to africa, they're there. what they do is it's called predatory lending or debt traps where they loan, they come in under the us a pises of we're going to invest, we're going to build roads, you know, we'll build ports, but the problem is, it's a debt trap and they end up taking over these facilities
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with that one -- without one shot fired. a good example, sleelan character they built a port in djibouti. they own both ends of the panama canal. tedy roosevelt, we built that canal. now the chinese own it. that's incredible to me. el salvador. they were going to put two ports in el salvador. fortunately, the incoming president decided that's not a good move. africa. they're all other africa. how do we persuade these countries to reject the chinese? we have to explain it's not in their best interest. it's going to be long-term pain for you. ut we have to compete. we passed this ebuild act to put opec on steroids, we passed my bill the championing thru diplomacy to make sure we're advocating for american nterests abroad.
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the technology piece is what keeps me up at night. quantum intelligence, cyber security, 5g. if you look at the global map, it's about 50% of the world right now where china is moving in with that 5g. they're like tentacles moving in. once 5g is put, in they control. they control the tai tafment they control everything. we have to compete with them on 5g. we have at&t and verizon and some other countries. we can't just say the chinese are evil. they steal intellectual property, blueprints into the pentagon, they steal our cyber weapons. but the fact is, we have to compete with them to win. that has to be an investment that the united states is prepared to make with the private sector. james: where's my first question
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guy? there he is in the back. we've hit on china, on latin america, on b.d.f. are there other things on the committee, on the agenda this year you won't folks to know is coming down? mr. mccaul: when i was chairman of homeland, it was an nteresting time. i saw the rise of isis, i warned the administration at the time of the threat. the -- it was frightening. we stopped about 95%. in my threat briefings i worked with the f.b.i., intelligence community, homeland. only about 5% happened and those are the ones you know about.
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with the collapse of the caliphate the threat briefings have gone way down if that's not to say the threat is still not there. they are embedded. if you talk to military, it's moving into the sahel region which is middlebelt of africa, destabilize nations. lindsey graham and i introduced the global for julie active in usaid, state and defense together to try to stabilize this region. it's more preventative -- preventative than just reacting. if we can't went on the preventative diplomacy side, that's when you put your military in. the dod is interested in this program as am i. i think it's the right approach. james: ok, we go to the back, wait for the microphone, state your name, affiliation and ask your question. >> voice of american persian service.
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my question is about iran. president trump has said as recent as today that he doesn't seek war with iran. is this a clarification of the u.s. position or is it a change in u.s. policy toward iran altogether? and if i may ask a follow-up to what you said in the last part of your remarks on iran. you mentioned nuclear facilities could be bombed or targeted without sending u.s. ground troops. can you elaborate on that? mr. mccaul: i don't think, look, we want to put maximum pressure on a van so that the iranian people can rise above this theocracy of oppression. i think 80% of the iranian people don't agree with the ayatollah, they don't agree with he thee og -- theocracy that's oppressing them. we want to give them every ability, just like venezuela,, the people in venezuela, the people of iran.
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but we're not going to sit back idly if iran gets our military. if iran strikes our military we will respond. if iran starts to build a nuclear facility, we will respond to that. and i think that's kind of policy. we're not going to allow iran to become a nuclear power. i think getting out of the jcpoa s had a good effect on the economy, has put pressure on them. and again what i see what they're doing right now is weakness and desperation. and i think those are all positive signs in the right direction. >> i'm with the foundation, one thing i want to talk about, pakistan, pack stan looked in the past the journalist they tchilled journalist daniel pearl found america lane,
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terrorists are still freely moving over there and pakistan is treating people very badly. congressmanwant one the congress that's anti-pakistan, like dana rohrabacher. mr. mccaul: dana was a good friend of mine. dana always talked about the man who helped us and is now in pakistani prison and i don't think we did enough to get him out. was in abad bad -- abadabad about a month after capturing lane. there was a feeling of anger at the time. they said your c.i.a. never told me he was in my country. maybe so but the i.s.i.
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certainly, i think, knew. he's in abadabad, which is like the west point academy. i think they harbored him. and the i.s.i. is complicit with extremists. they're not helping nuss afghanistan at all. they're a threat to india, as you know, and kashmir. and we have aid. the tricky part about our aid is predominantly it's there to secure the nuclear arsenal that a.q. khan built. a.q. khan exported that to iran, he's the muslim father of the atomic bomb. james: i was thinking about the reference about abawdabawd and west point, but my first year at west point i did feel terrorized. >> as someone remodeling my house i hope the tariffs end in
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china. given the terrorist attacks in sri lanka, the recent declaration by isis claiming a province in india which is going through an election right now and the increase of islamic terror activities. is that the next front in the global war on terror and what can we do to support u.s. allies like india and others in the region to confront and -- who are literally on the front lines of that war. mr. mccaul: i think with the collapse of the caliphate in they nd syria, as i said, cannot conduct external operations from space they cannot govern. i have an isis license plate in my office. islamic state in syria. >> were you driving there? mr. mccaul: delta force -- the owner is no longer with us.
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but to your point, they're going underground. but where they're popping their ugly heads up are i think in asia, as you point out and articularly -- as i talked about earlier. this is where we talked to the defense department they tell you this is going to be the next hot spot. if we don't start dealing with it now we have to deal with external operations that kill americans in the united states. so from homeland perspective and this is where lindsay and i are on the same page, we can do a lot of good things right now to try to stabilize these countries. with india, they have the mumbai attacks, it's nothing new to them. certainly in the philippines, there's an al qaeda-isis threat, ma lisha and indonesia as well. i don't think it's going to -- i've always said it's not going to go away in our lifetime this radical islamist behavior. but i will tell you, i feel safer just because the caliphate
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as been the stroyed. james: you make a distinction about where they can organize a one-off attack in sri lanka and india, and places where you think they could put down the infrastructure for campaigns of operations and that's why you focus is on sahal. james: any power vacuum, we saw it in afghanistan with 9/11 and in iraq and syria. any time they can put down a governed space and control it, that's where they can conduct external operations. aqap was the one we kept an eye on, we were worried about aviation attacks, laptop bombs and that kind of thing. a lot of scientists that worked at mosul university. they have proven to not be very effective. >> we'll take two questions here in the middle.
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>> i have a question about north korea. south korean government announced today they will provide over $8 until humanitarian aid to north korea by international organization. they gave per noigs south korean businessmen to invest. and the second question is about north korea's provocation. as you know, north korean wash warned the u.s. should change position by the end of this year, otherwise it's going to get some consequences and then north korea launch it, a short-range missile last week. how to see the north korean and what abasia? mr. mccaul: i'm all for humanitarian aid. i think it flies in the face of the maximum pressure campaign.
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the south korean president moon has -- there's a split within south korea. the right way to proceed with north korea. i think think maximum pressure, i think we have to engage with kim jong un because the stakes are too high. other the last three decades and presidencies, we have made concessions to north korea, now to the point where they have an intercontinental ballistic missile with nuclear warhead capable of hitting the continental united states. we have to engage with him. the question is how to get them to stand down. what's interesting to me is, is it all or nothing? is it something where denuclearization completely or incrementally? i think the south koreans will probably tell you, doing it overnight is not realistic. you have to take an incremental approach to this. and negotiate it piece by piece to the point where they
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completely de-escalate. and i don't know. i mean, this is a big question mark. it's a crystal ball that i don't have an answer to. i do see some merit in the incremental approach though. i don't think -- you need a face-saving measure with any dictator. dictatorships never are easy to negotiate with. but i think you need a face-saving measure for them to get out of this. i think he probably wants to get out of this if we promised a brighter future, economic brighter future for him and his people. but remember the biggest thing they have is, they're a player. they're in the nuclear small club. of nuclear powers now. to get them to give that up is difficult. it didn't work with pakistan.
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i think it's very difficult to get him to give that up. james: let me interject, a quick three-part question. we don't want to forget. western balkans. black sea, which is increasingly an issue we want to talk about, the black sea security. and ukraine. mr. mccaul: i was over in ukraine, i think now we have comedian entertainer as president now is the latest i heard? ames: he's a politician now. mr. mccaul: i think a lot of entertainers are winning presidencies. we're looking at him closely to see -- he had some ties to a russian oligarch. we want to make sure that he's not tied to any -- he has no russian influence.
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the ber attacks they hit ukraine with every day, they test their weapons in ukraine. i don't want to to digress but there's a bank in ukraine, russia hit the bank, the bank, haersk shipping had an account at the bank, it destroy 20 years maersk shipping and shut down the los angeles port. that's an example of what cyber can do we worry about putinning who wants regain the glory of the old soviet empire, he wants to be sta ill -- stalinesque. yeltsin gorbachev and are traitors to their country.
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building this bridge to block off the ukrainian port into the black sea. why are they in syria? they wants the -- they want the port into the mediterranean. they dominate with russian submarine the mediterranean. they'll say we have to deal with the russians because you weren't there obama decided not to -- we weren't there, the russians are there now. that's seriously probably the most complicated foreign policy challenge of our lifetime. james: but you think the u.s. has to be engaged in that area as a key to stability? james: i would argue, and have supported arming the ukraine with nuclear weapons because there's a united war on that front against the russians. james: we'll go there next. >> i'm with the quaker lobby in
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the public intrens. we appreciate your leadership on the global fragility act, it's a great step toward strengthening u.s. capacity toward preventing conflict. what other steps do you think congress and the administration can take on the conflict prevention front. mr. mccaul: thank you. i know the one campaign is very supportive of this initiative. lindsay and i are push, this is going to pass. lindsay and i were just over in africa to assess the situation, and it is -- this is going to be the largest populated continent in the world. you look at climate change, there'll be droughts in central africa as well. that will exacerbate the problem as well. we need to address this right now. because time and time again when we don't, then we have to put our military in with -- i'd
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the state department than buy more bullets, have to kill people. it's a prevention piece. we've done a good job defending the united states from terror attacks. we've done a very good job offensively killing the terrorists. the piece we haven't done very well in my judgment is what you're talking about, the prevention piece. that's what the global fragility act is designed to do. >> here and then to the back. >> thank you for coming. regarding north korea once again, along with the previous questions, where do we stand on the missile defense? i do know japan is trying to cooperate with us. -- ccaul: yeah, the sad
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putting into south korea, japan is concerned, they are in the bull's eye. i think we need to arm japan with the same sort of defense missile system. that we have with south koreans. i'mg back to your question, part of the childhood cancer caucus, we pass a lot of good bills. we have gotten to the point where 0% of children with cancer survive. you go to africa, 90% of children in africa die. 90% mortality rate. pep farr, the h.i.v. program, we passed and there are clinics all over africa now. texas children's has a global ope initiative to bring cancer medications to africa to help save them thm -- save them like pepfar saved a generation. i'm working with the committee and i've been working with the
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ambassador of pepfar, been working with bristol myer squib. and a whole host of -- st. jude and all these stake holders. to lay out the predicate of pepfar to bring in medicines to save these african children that could be easily cured, they just don't have access. james: being the nonpartisan guy that i am if there's a question on the far left i'd be happy to ke that lt >> recently i had to stop at navy credit union and up on the screen comes an event, kind of a surprise, why kiki beach is being threatened by the rising sea. sort of, you know, southern part of our nation in some ways, close to the equator, 2008 i came up with asen trifffwal
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force theory on the rise of the sea. belting ice at either end, flows toward the equator due tosen triff gal force. have you thought of addressing this issue in congress? i've been to the academy of sciences and they looked at my plan, they said it's too much engineering, trying to flood an area that's below sea level could create a huge lake like lake ontario. i wonder what's the latest -- there's miami beach, of course, a huge city in our nation which is also threatened by flooding. so far only my -- only 20 days a year are critical due to the tide where the moon lines up with the sun and creates a higher tide and the sea level is ising. mr. mccaul: the paris agreement had a lot of flaws to it where we had to comply but the chinese
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had until 2025 and they're burning a coal plant every week and their emissions are a serious problem. in the that we shouldn't negotiate with foreign governments on. this just to back up. but i had a nasa scientist in my office who sort of walked me through, he said i'm not a policymaker, i'm a scientist. let me show you the data and what will happen in the next 20 to 40 years and it was very persuasive. it is changing. i think there's a tendency for some on my side of the aisle to put their head in the sand and pretend it's not happening but it is. i think the question is, how to deal with this in a sensible way that makes sense and i think -- i've got a lot of technology, i live in austin, great tech companies. i think technology and innovation is going to be the key to this. in terms of lowering carbon
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emissions. from the atmosphere. go to alaska, you see the glaciers, you have the arctic circle this echinese are looking at how can they do shipping across the rktic. because it's breaking up. to me that speaks volumes. we have to do something. it's happening and the question is how much is manmade, how much is natural cycle but we do know that some of it is manmade. we have to, in terms of reducing emissions, you know, talk to about the manhattan project for clean energy. why can't we have nuclear power. unfortunately, three mile island and chernobyl were disasters, set back our nuclear program, you know, decades. however, i think it could be done safely today with zero emissions. we need to really be looking at all this stuff. and i don't think -- it's no
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longer like a democrat-republican thing. i know the democrats are all in favor, the republicans are neanderthal, head in the sand. > i'm not even a republican. r. mccaul: i think people -- james: this will be the last question. >> my name is anthony, i'm an intern for kevin mccarthy, probably shouldn't have said that. r. mccaul: he's a great guy. >> you mentioned chinese debt trap strategy especially in latin america and in africa. but i think that the chinese are -- a lot of their multilateral agreements are long-term and not debt traps, like their take over the part of haifa in israel which is where the sixth fleet is right now. how do you reconcile cyber security, especially if we're stationing our military in a
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chinese port, as well as in terms of like kushner's peace project with the west bank and that region as well. especially if the chinese have a greater interest in the israeli economy. does that mean they'll have a greater interest in humanitarian and philanthropic efforts? mr. mccaul: i met the israeli ambassador and asked him this question, what's going on with chi in in your port? he assured me that they don't own it. they just helped build it. but the problem is, when they build the stuff, they end up taking it over. what we're seeing time and time again. so please reassure me on this one, you will not allow 5g on israel. israel is pretty good at its cyber. they're extremely -- that cyber spark. their university has the academia there, they have what
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would be like our silicon valley and the military. all in one incue bhator. they're a great ally for us on technology. we have to respond on the 5g. i think, you know, talking to your boss, we need to come up with a package that can compete with the chinese on artificial intelligence, quantum computing, cyber security and finally 5--- 5g. on the global map they are putting 5 it is g in about 50% of the world right now. which means they'll dominate and control 50% of the data that comes out. they put it in big data. so this is going to have to be a public-private partnership. we're going to have to invest at the fall level to compete. and i think people are just now waking up to the china threat. you didn't hear a lot about this two years ago. i hear about it but i don't -- but i think now everybody realizes what's happening. they're waking up to the fact, i
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think it's a call for action we need to take. i look forward to working with your boss. i think it's a total bipartisan issue. james: one of the interesting things we do, we do a u.s.- israel tri-lateral. that's been a good forum. i don't think anybody understands the chinese pressure better than indians. bringing the indians and israelis together get a deeper appreciation for managing chinese investment. it's been productive. people are waking up to the issues you talked about. i will give you the last word. what's on your agenda that we have missed today, we've covered so much ground on what the committee is working on, this has been so instruct i and helpful. we're really appreciative. but what else do we need to know that's on your plate before we let you go? mr. mccaul: i've covered a lot but in broad terms, in terms of
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foreign policy, look at the ken burns documentary "vietnam." when you get your foreign policy wrong, you put the military in, the communist threlt was real but there was also independence from china, independence from the french and the americans came in. got to get your foreign policy right before you put the military in. that's what we'll talk about in the sahal in africa. diplomats, when the diplomats fail that's when we go to war. i think part of this projected strength, i'm a churchill guy, he said weakness invites agregs. he stood up to hitler. a visionary about hitler. i think kennedy was strong against communism. reagan, peace through strength. those are axioms i live by in my political career. i think at the end of the day in the previous administration i saw this theme where our allies
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no longer trusted us and our enemies no longer feared us. condoleezza rice said you want everybody to like you, but they're not always going to like you. if they don't like you, you want them to fear you. you want to work with them but you have to negotiate out of trength. i think this president has negotiated out of strength. i think we're changing our doctrine where our allies like israel now do trust us. we don't have the iran deal. i mean, israelis felt very slighted by that iran deal. it terrified them. so our allies i think now do trust us and our enemies i think like china, russia, iran, north korea, and maduro, do fear us. i think that extends a strong foreign policy where we can get things done to keep the world at
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peace. which is what we all want. on this planet. it's going to be an interesting new journey for me. i've gone from terrorism, still involved in it now, to the entire world and foreign policy. it's very interesting. james: we wish you luck. join me in thanking the congressman for his time. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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