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i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: frup does the gentleman from washington seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman s recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, i rise today to honor the memory of clyde owen of moses lake, washington. an individual who dedicated his life to serbing the country and improving his community before passing on july 1 at the age of 100. mr. newhouse: he was a pilot during world war ii and the only member of his air crew to escape enemy fire during the landing at anzio in 1943. surviving these adversities, he continued to serve in the air force, traveling the world before settling in moses lake in 1961. there he served as the last commander of the larson air force base, overseeing crucial tanker and bomber floats before its closure in 1966. far from ready to retire, he
went on to work as the first executive director for the port of moses lake. working to foster economic development and create opportunity for the people of central washington. i urge my colleagues to join me in honoring clyde's long life of service, his commitment to the united states, and the people of moses lake. thank you, madam speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman rom illinois seek recognition? without objection. the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> i would like to recognize the storic feat of boys 11-13 in my district. roberto clemente humble park made history by becoming illinois champions and advancing to the regionals.
they are the first to qualify and represent the city and state of illinois. it's exciting to know these kids have a real chance to making it to the little league world series. as a father and grandfather and avid baseball fan, their achievement makes me proud and showing us the power of sports and community. i would like to congratulate them, their coaches, their families for their determination, the roberto clemente is bringing pride to the 4th congressional zigget and the state of illinois. go roberto clemente little leaguers. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman -- arkansas >> ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without
objection. the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> i rise today to honor major general mark barry, commander of the arkansas national guard. after a long career of dedicated service, march general barry is retiring on august 10, 2019. he was the ajut dant general of the arkansas national guard. prior to the post, he was the assistant to the director of air national guard in arlington, virginia. in addition to his highly decorated career, he is a man who goes out of his way to protect and serve his fellow countrymen. he provided critical and immediate assistance when flooding devastated many parts of arkansas. i worked side by side with him during flood relief efforts and saw how he worked around the
clock to save lives and protect homes and businesses. he is a great leader, a great friend and a great american. i thank major general barry for his service and wish him all the best in retirement. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from colorado seek recognition? >> ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> i rise today in solemn memory of the 12 lives lost and the many lives changed forever seven years ago in the aurora theater shooting. i have come to know the victims' families and stand in awe of their courage and strength and they have become stewards in our community and their example is an inspiration to us all. representative tom sullivan serves in the colorado state legislature and fighting for commonsense gun legislation and the phillips who lost their
daughter and advocate for survivors around the country. my wish is to tell them we haven't forgotten. it may seem like we have moved on in the seven years since, little has changed. our country is no safer. we zpwree about how to solve the problem. there is a public health kice is in our country and doesn't matter if you live in a red or blue district. i stand here committed to making a change and showing families in our community that just because our time has passed, to address gun violence has not. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from indiana seek -- for what purpose does the gentleman from mississippi seek recognition? >> ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mississippiago, the
test facility now known as the space center carried neil armstrong, buzz aldrin and ichael collins up to the moon. this was due to the men and 2,475 man years of engine rocket testing to make sure that the astronauts carried the ingenuity to the stars and return home safely to a proud nation. following the successful mission, the space center team continued to support the apollo program by performing tests on the saturn 5 rocket and continues to support nasa in our exploration of space. as a citizen of mississippi, we
remember the crucial role we played in this historic accomplishment of our great nation. thank you, madam speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from maryland seek recognition? >> ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. >> madam speaker, all of us who serve in this house are deeply indebted to our hardworking staff. mr. hoyer: they enable to serve our constituents and meet the demands of this job. in particular, all of us are grateful for our district directors as we are for all of our staff. but our district directors are us for so many instances to so many constituents and so many different events. they represent us when we cannot be here when we are in washington.
they are our eyes and angels on our shoulders who remind us that everything we do on a national level needs to benefit our constituents back home. for the past 30 years, i have been blast, the 5th congressional district has been of ed to be a colleague betsy bossert. i love her and my constituents love betsy. before she served as my district director, she was my administrative assistant who made sure my office ran smoothly and served as one of my chief advisers. betsy joined my staff on march 3, 1989, 30 years ago. and until she retired sadly, from my perspective, last month,
she served the people of the 5th district and our country every day. her departure from is diminished by the end of her extraordinary service. she gave her time and energy selflessly to the people of the 5th district working many, many late nights, many weekends and long days. she has taken meetings with every organization and visited every nearly every school and government offices. she has been so successful as my district director, because she is an excellent listener and has a deep well spring of empathy for people. she has been a role model for others on my staff and a coon and advocate for young people coming into public service and waiting to make differences in their communities and in their country. she has been an unsung hero of
my team for three decades. it is largely because of betsy's hard work behind the scenes that we are able to reorganize the program, christmas in april, in all five counties in our district. the day of service that brings people of all works of life to repair hopes, revitalize communities and help our neighbors. because of betsy's efforts, we have the annual 5th district women's luncheon and raising awareness of women leaders in the 5th district and our country. because of her, we have a robust support for the network of early childhood centers in maryland named in memory of any wife judy who had a beautiful relationship with betsy. it will be a part of betsy's
legacy. and thousands of children and families who benefited may not know betsy to make the judy centers possible, but they will always and her colleagues who partnered with her, a debt of gratitude. along with her friend and my friend betty richardson, another long time member of my team who remains active in our district, has partnered, betty and betsy were instrumental in launching e 5th district black history breakfast. all the young people who participate in the greater washington soap box derby, have betsy to thank being able to use the capitol grounds. i will look back with many, many, many fond memories. my time working with betsy bossert, my friend, my
colleague, my co-worker who i had the opportunity to work with to advance the interests of our district. we traveled together to south africa and met with nelson mandela discussing rashe justice and we have attended so many events across prince georges county and making sure that voices are heard loudly and clearly in congress. asthma the gentlewoman reserves the balance of her time. leader and democratic whip over the past 16 years, i had to balance service to our district with responsibilities to our caucus and to our country. betsy has spent every single day of that time making sure that our district always comes first. .
god bless. a wonderful friend. mr. wilson: today is legislative ay five as spouses equity act. i'm grateful that 86% of congress, 371 members have co-sponsored this legislation who were recruited by determined widows and the veteran service organizations. as minority whip steve scalise noted, here is a bill that can get to the president's desk and gets included in other pieces of legislation that might come months away. here is a bill, under the rules that were created and unfortunate the rule to bring the ndaa bill to the floor turned off the consensus calendar specifically for that bill, one bill, which happened to be the first bill that met
that requirement, end of quote. we should work together bipartisan to bring the military surviving spouses equity act up for stand alone to alimb fate the widow'ses. god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, the way we finance campaigns in this country is a true threat to our democracy. this is leading to political paralysis. in the book "bark money," it was written, in 2006, only 2% of outside political spending came from social welfare groups that hide their donors. in 2010, this number rose to 40% masking hundreds of millions of
dollars. since 2010, citizens united and related decisions, this number is even greater today. the massive amount of money flowing into our political system corrupts the political process. that's why i introduced a proposed constitutional amendment to reform our broken campaign finance system. my amendment would eliminate political action companies and dark money. funding for a candidate or ballot measure would be limited to be used for a public financing system or donation given directly to the campaign by individual citizens. this would end much of the corruption in washington. i urge my colleagues to do everything possible to help limit corruption in washington including supporting this legislation. yield back. the speaker pro tempore: under the speaker's announced policy of january 3, 2019,, the gentleman from texas, mr. gohmert, is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the
minority leader. mr. gohmert: thank you, madam speaker. it's now my privilege to yield to my friend, also from texas, lso a former district judge, udge carter. for such time as he may consume. mr. carter: i thank my good friend, mr. gohmert, for yielding to me. rise today to honor my dear friend, congressman richard hudson of north carolina. congressman hudson served as my hief of staff of 2006 to 2008, and is now forging his own path right here on capitol hill. some time ago congressman hudson gave me a hard time about other members being recognized as honorary texans by governor abbott. well, after speaking with the governor, we have gone one step
further with our recognition here today. and i am pleased to swear in admiral richard l. hudson to the texas navy. i will now read the certificate granting his commission. in the name -- in the by the name of the state of the authority of the state of texas, all to whom these presents shall come, greetings. know ye that richard hudson is hereby commissioned an honorary admiral in the texas navy. with all rights and privileges and pertaining thereto, with a duty to assist in the preservation of the history, boundaries, water resources and the defense of the state. in testimony whereof i have signed my name and caused the seal of the state of texas be fixed at the city of austin, this 5th day of may, 2019,
signed the governor of texas. i will now read the oath that mr. hudson will take as he takes this commission. i, richard hudson, do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution and the -- of the united states and of the state of texas against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and i will obey the orders of the president of the united states and the governor of texas, and the orders of the officers apointed over me. according to the regulations and the uniform code of military justice, and i will remember the alamo, so help me god. i now yield back to mr. gohmert. mr. gohmert: i yield to mr. hudson. mr. hudson: thank you, mr. gohmert, for yielding, and thank you, judge carter, for this incredible honor. you are a dear friend and someone i admire very much and your love for the state of texas
is unmatched. this truly is an honor. i'm proud to be a north carolinian. but i do love the state of texas. i would first suggest that we should all remember that seven north carolinians, if if my recollection is correct, died defending the alamo. i also have family ties to texas. my great uncle joseph wesley humphrey was a deputy sheriff, a member of the texas legislature, and then county judge. another great uncle was the methodist minister in st. augustine county, texas. i believe that might be in mr. gohmert's district. in the church and the cemetery there is still named mccray after my great uncle. so i do have family ties. i do love the state. i am deeply honored to receive this commission, honorary as it may be. and i'll be proud to recite the oath. i, richard hudson, do solemnly
swear that i will support and at the fend the constitution of the united states and the state of texas against all enemies, foreign and domestic, i'll bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that i'll obey the orders of the president of the united states and the governor of texas, and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations of the uniform code of military justice, and i will remember the alamo so help me god. thank you, judge carter. and with that, i'll yield back to my friend, mr. gohmert. mr. carter: congratulations. i thank the gentleman for ielding. mr. gohmert: well, it is wonderful to have a new admiral in the texas navy. and we welcome congressman hudson to that role, an honorary role in the texas navy, grateful to judge carter for his role in making that happen. and to our great governor, greg abbott. hank you both. so it's nice to be able to do
something that brings a smile. but i think, you know, for texans to ask that people emember the alamo harkins back freedom within us that and liberty is something worth dying for. that's what all of those texans did. to my due deference friend from tennessee, marsha blackburn, yes, i know we're grateful for tennessee for their contribution at the alamo and to texas as well. but those people had a choice. were they going to run or were they going to stand for freedom? stand against dess toities much. -- despotism.
and they chose to stand. 163 years later, and we still remember and we're still inspired. and ty comes at great cost we're forever grateful to our god and to our predecessors that took such a stand against tyranny. there's a lot of tyranny going on in the middle east and there will be until the end of time. but each of us have a responsibility to do what we can to help accommodate and protect those that can't help themselves. that's why some of us are
pro-life. but when it comes to life in the middle east, it's been shocking now for years, under the previous administration, the people that were supported, the to ons that were provided people that were called the moderate rebels against the leader of syria. and yet we saw over and over again those so-called vetted moderate rebels were constantly allowing their weapons to be seized. some questions whether they were actually turned over. t to radical islamists who hate americans. who made clear, yeah, they're fellow y about some muslims, but they like them a whole lot better than they do the united states and christians.
so it was tragic in years prior when our current u.n. general secretary was in charge of the , andee program at the u.n. , under thennoticing the head of the refugee program in the u.n., now general secretary, they were noticing that, gee, you're helping all these muslims, which is onderful, but there is a significant percentage in those areas, some areas there that are being overrun by isis, where there are christians and the christians appear to be the target of a genocide. and it's been a long time since i read his quote, but in essence it was basically, well, you know, those christians are very
important to those areas historically where they are and so we think it's important to just let them stay in those areas. well, what christians had found was if they tried to go to the refugee camps where they were unwelcome and brutalized, they were lucky if they got out with their lives, but they weren't welcome and the head of the refugee program did nothing that we can find to accommodate christians to the extent that he was accommodating muslims. i don't know if it was an innate bias, prejudice, bigotry that he had. maybe he still has. or whether it was just sheer ignorance on his part, deciding to save some people and not save a big bulk of the christians. so they were being wiped out. there was a genocide going on. and i saw this story today by
edwin morrow. the title of the article is, "hope is back, trump helped save christians, yazidis in iraq from extinction." it goes on to say, u.s. president donald trump's administration is helping bring christians and yazidis in iraq back from the brink of extinction, fomented by a genocidal campaign at the hands of the islamic state. religious minority representatives declared this week at the second ministerial to advance religious freedom convened by the department of state. the u.s. government has officially determined that isis committed genocide against christians, yazidis and other religious minorities during its reign of terror in the middle east that began in 2014. of course, that was when the
obama administration was in its hay day. of course we didn't realize how much the d.o.j., f.b.i., some of the intel community had been eaponized and actually corrupted. the article goes on, echoing yazidis activists and u.s.-based catholic iraqi priests, who oke to breitbart news, a catholic priest from a christian iraqi town, indicated that hope for the future, along with security improvements, have returned to religious minority ommunities devastated by isis. courtesy of the trump administration efforts. their comments came during a three-day ministerial summit, while delivering a speech during
the vent on wednesday, catholic priest from iraq, thanked the trump administration for its assistance. and this is what the father had to say. i wish to give thanks to the government of the united states for including us in this important conference, in a special -- and a special thanks to the administration of president trump for his concern and commitment to the persecuted minority communities in iraq. i can say this conference gives us hope. our greatest fear in the early years was that the world would forget us. this conference tells us, we're not forgotten. nearly half of the christian families who fled the area were lick ray -- liberated by u.s. and local forces in november, 2016, they've returned, the
father expects many more to come back in the coming year. although isis burned down the homes and churches in the christian town, we're determined to return and rebuild. today we have 45% of our families returned and we hope in this next year we will see many more. he went on to say that the iraqi government needs to do more to bring about real change and support for the protection, safety and equal rights for the minority communities in iraq. the u.s.-funded nation building efforts, coupled with, let me make clear on that, talking about helping others build their nations, for those who claim that america's trying to build higemany, emny, -- has impeeleristic notions, they had terrible history teachers. they're not intelligencely spreading untruths, they're just
ignorant. they don't know what the real truth is. because the real truth is, we've never been an imperialistic nation. if we were, if we had been, then english would be all that was spoken in france, in germany, in japan, many other nations. that's not who we are. it's not who we've been. . we have given american lives for other people's freedom. back to this oorl, it says the u.s. rendered efforts coupled with assistance from the catholic group knights of columbus, the government of hungary have rendered the town, a story of success and we are ptimistic it will survive. northern iraq's province is
historical homeland of iraqi christians and largest concentration of religious minorities in the country. it also talks about the help it has been to the yazidis and this week we had resolutions or amendments to condemn and xpress the majority of the house's sentiment that we shouldn't do anything to help in the effort against those who are killing, persecuting and trying to commit a genocide against the yazidis in yemen. but thankfully, that's only from the majority in the house that's really unfortunate. but there's also been news this ek we may have a very strong
anti-israeli resolution filed. why not. the majority doesn't ever by emn any anti-sentism members here in the house, so why not file a resolution. we'll see if it gets fileed, that supports the boycott against israel, even though the people that that resolution would support, would be the very people who say they want israel wiped off the map. they want no israel from the river to the sea. they want it gone. they want a genocide. they want the jews wiped out and that was the goal and goal of arafat. of why the prime minister israel when president clinton was twisting his arms so
strongly, offered arafat everything he wanted. i think had a case where this is aoh. ardened fate of phar his heart was hardened and he got everything he wanted but turned it all down. if he accepted it, it would have been basically impossible for israel to defend itself under anything but nuclear means. no conventional way to defend israel if arafat had accepted that what i would consider an outrageous proposal. fortunately, he didn't accept it. so israel has been able to defend itself since then. but the attacks are daily. they're ongoing. it is an ongoing effort by enemies of israel that are being
promoted by some democrats, some in congress, some outside of congress, that's who they are supporting, people that are every single day smuggling rockets into gaza, smuggling weapons, trying to smuggle weapons into israel and ontinuing to teach hatred, lying bigotry against the jewish people, against israel. so i would be thrilled if that resolution did not get filed. but it's up to individuals in congress. everybody has a right to file whatever bill they think will be most helpful. but, i have looked for scripture those whole that says curse or seek to harm israel will be blessed and it's just not there.
so it causes me grave concern to think we may have people in leadership positions in the united states again who really want to harm israel. they want to died it. i know we have a growing group that don't believe anything in the bible. but those of us who do, when we're told any nation that divides or attempts to divide israel or bring -- will bring down judgment on itself, that causes me great concern for the country for which i have taken an oath to defend repeatedly. as a member of the united states army, as an assistant district attorney, as a district judge, as a chief justice and as a member of congress. and that oath means so much to me that i think it would be a
good idea to be supportive of the nation of israel. and i'm thrilled we have a president that is doing that, even though reports -- i have heard from people that were there, he had cabinet officials telling him he was going to start world war iii if he recognized jerusalem as the capital. and some of the stories of lincoln being told by every member of the cabinet it would e a disaster if he finalized the emancipation proclamation. lincoln knew it was right in his heart and every cabinet member essence, ainst it, in the ayes have it. he was the only one. here you have most of the cabinet hammering president trump not to recognize jerusalem
as the capital. he knew in his heart it was the right thing to do. said he would do it, he did it. me can't find anything admirable about president trump and so blinded by their hatred, but i think that is an amazing thing that president trump has done and now to hear from christians in the middle east who were the objects of genocide being wiped out, killed, destroyed, being taken off the map completely without anything helpful from the so-called united nations. it's amazing. it's amazing what president trump has done in that regard. when i hear friends across the aisle saying we've lost respect around the world, they're not
seeing and hearing what i am. last poll i saw were that around respectd, there is more for our president than prior administration. and the truth is, in respect, there is a little element of fear. you can not like somebody, but till respect them. and fear can be involved. we have a reputation that is growing again that i have a president that will do what he says and talked out of taking steps like bombing and killing 100 or more in iran. but what we're seeing in iran is
amazing because their economy is suffering dramatically so much you see them lashing out and trying to -- whether it's use ing ships, trying to whatever they can. the pressure is intensifying and i would humbly submit this will not be a president who in response to the biggest supporter of terrorism in world palletsful ofthem billions and billions of dollars in cash to help the biggest supporter of terrorism who has been responsible for the death of more american military than anybody else in recent decades. so they can say about what they
want about our president. he is doing amazing work. and it's interesting, i keep hearing this term racist. and the president keeps talking about american citizens. it's ntil recent days never been arraysist to talk about american citizens. and in fact, going back again to the comment of benjamin franklin after the constitutional, it's a republic, madam, if you can keep , he few that the very few that had been established, that means they elect representatives, it's not the totally democratic governing city as for athens as a
state, they had a democracy and what historians have seen, there clearly is when it's a true democracy when everybody participates, they had 501 jurors in a court case and that would lead to mob action. people get stirred up and end up coming out for a sentence that was found beyond anything appropriate whatsoever. take an innocent man and have him put to death simply because he had too many jurors that got each other worked up. so that is where rome made a great stride forward. you know what, there were oblems with it, a complete
democracy where everybody participates in our governing decisions, except jurors and that's 501. but rome figured out we need a representative form of government. that re are parts of it democracies and in part it's a representative government so it's a republic. and until ceasar and crossed the rubiconcxds con and made it into a dake tatorship and that didn't last long. brute us said is an honorable -- brutus was an honorable man. there was trouble in the roman empire. they began to have a flood of
ople that were not roman citizens. they gave away way too much in what was considered welfare, bread and circuses. and as i recall, there was it was decided that maybe we are corrupting people by providing this form of welfare and entertainment, but by that point it was to late to rein in and for all of these factors and others coming into play, people crossing their borders and taking their toll, the roman empire was lost. no country is going to last forever. i love this country. i have offered to die for this country. that's what you do when you stand up and take an oath in the u.s. military. but when people begin not to
appreciate the good things that their nation does and is doing, has done and they buildup hatred toward their own nation, you really are on the downhill slide and you are moving ever closer to the dust bin of history. basically every country is going to get there. but our goal in this body should perpetuate this experiment of self-government, the best ever contrived, keep it going as long as possible. don't let it die on our watch. but it's in trouble. and as we have bills -- i don't know anybody on this entire use floor, either party, who
is against standing behind helping those incredible american heroes from 9/11 and the days following. we're all for that. but then we have people in the majority that see an opportunity , let's run -- instead of doing what we normally do and have an authorization for five years, five years, 10 years, we had a bill that was extended to 2092. there will not be a firefighter or policeman who is alive anywhere close to 2092. first responder that was during 9/11 and doing these heroic works. so why would they choose 2092? . . the saying in washington is, no matter how cynical you get, it's
never enough to catch up. people in this body often, and it's happened on both sides of the aisle, they like to get a bill, especially with money, get it extended out as far as possible, way beyond the existence of people for whom it's dedicated, and then when those people eventually pass away, you will see an effort come in here and say, wow, we we've this money that passed overwhelmingly, and now the people aren't there that it was originally meant for. so let's start giving this money to other people, people that we want to curry favor with, and that's not the way it's supposed to go. i voted for it out of respect
for our heroes, but for goodness sake, 2092, seriously? how could anybody with a straight face say, oh, if you're not for paying out billions and billions of dollars in 2091 to 2092, then you must hate the first responders of 9/11, that's ridiculous. they've inspired me from that time. and in my hometown in east texas, and in other -- our towns all over east texas, it's all the same thing. people lined up to give blood. first time i went they said, there's hours and hours of wait to give blood for people in new york. so we would ask that you come back tomorrow. you couldn't even get in. that was true all over east texas. and all over the country. people care deeply about what
they'd seen happen -- cared deeply about what they'd seen happen. we were under attack from outside. there were no hyphenated americans. we were all just americans wanting to help each other. and help those that had been harmed. so, i hope that the senate will ake a look at that and be able to be more responsible so that the 9/11 fund will truly be for the people that the 9/11 fund says it's supposed to be for. i mean, we're loading up future generations with so much debt, that alone could be enough to bring down our country. it's time to become responsible. and i know across the aisle, we've had these hearings on the bills, the equality act, for example, and i understand the sentiment behind it is to try to , oid any type of discomfort
uncomfortable feelings by their chosen e of gender. but as we brought out at our hearing before the equality act was passed in committee and here a danger,or, there is and it's not about making people a little uncomfortable because they're biologically male but they want to go to a women's estroom, because as a former felony judge, i've heard the testimony about the trauma, i've seen the effects of sexual assault on women. i have read and understand that women who are victims of sexual assault have three to four times pst -- ptsd, e of
and explanations of why they have a higher rate of ptsd than even our soldiers in combat. but also that a trigger for eliving the horrors, the awful crime against them and their person is to be in a small, confined area and have someone f the opposite sex come in and we were laughed at, belittled when we brought up that concern. and the story was contained in another story, it was about a british leader who was pushing for transgender bathrooms. it's now under criminal investigation or charges. but this was a story i missed trans february that a
woman, meaning biological man, but considered himself, herself, whatever you want to say, to be a woman, was allowed to walk free from a sheriff court in scotland after being convicted of sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl in a supermarket restroom. the attacker, whose name is given as katie, waited for the young victim to come out of a toilet cubicle at a supermarket, then grabbed her by the face, orced her back inside. katie told the girl to remove her trousers and said a man outside would kill her mother, but she fought back, striking the pedophile in the face, belly, crosh, tearing away to her father and siblings outside. katie had attempted to photograph a 12-year-old as she urinated in another supermarket a month prior. but judge james williamson decided not to send the sex
foneder to prison. instead, handing down -- offender to prison. instead handing down a tagging order and community service order. girl's mother was horrified, saying she felt very let down. she did not have any confidence whatsoever that katie would not go out and do something equally as bad or worse. and it is important to still discuss this because the senate hadn't taken it up and i hope they won't take it up. because of the problems this so-called misnamed equality act, it's not equality for female sexual assault victims, that's for sure. but then it contained another reference to girl guides, like girl scouts. expels leaders who oppose trans shower sharing policies. and this insert says, two girls guide leaders were expelled after they opposed new rules which compel units to let transgender identifying males share showers and other facilities with girls as young
as 5. there were other references like allegedly transgender prisoner gets life after raping two women, sexually assaulting inmates in the female jail. another, mother arrested in front of her children for . lling a trans activist a man the woman was arrested for calling a trans activist mannion line, and a judge has -- man online, and a judge has banned her from identifying their former male identity. so there was a time when people could say hurtful things in america. but as we see with any declining society, not declining in goods and services, but declining in morality and as a society, we
see it in l.a., the most so-called liberated and liberal leaders of cities in america seem to have more homelessness, more deafcation on the streets, more pollution. where are all the green activists, by the way? i mean, these people are polluting like crazy. and, you know, they're out there with signs picketing everywhere else. but for some reason they don't seem to be bothered by the destruction of an orderly society. you go back to some of the great city, states. one of their big problems was sewage. if you have too much homelessness, you encourage it, bless it, then it can cause problems for any society. but that also brings us to our southern border. the continued expressions from
this body about wanting to get rid of any enforcement of our border, of -- and refusing, in the $4.6 billion that was passed out of this house, not one dime for a detention bed, not one dime to help the border patrol do their job to secure the border. not one dime to help build wall, barrier, where we need it. when we basically, because of liberals who may mean well, but they're basically turn -- they've basically turned over our southern border to drug cartels. those evil people -- some of the most evil people in the world. these drug cartels. and we're not going to enforce our border? that message from the majority has gone out over and over again and what it does, as the border patrol will tell you, if you go down there as often as i have,
every time one of you guys in congress talk about amnesty, legalization, not enforcing the border, any of those things, we get surges. and they'll also tell you, and i've seen it for myself, the drug cartels control everybody when and where they cross the border. and they will send groups and the border patrol knows when they send a group in the middle of the night, they have to stand there and go through in-processing all these people, asking them their questions, and despite what some of our colleagues across the aisle have said, these are sympathetic border patrolmen. i've seen it over and over. seen hundreds of very sympathetic border patrolmen. but they are at their wit's end. an article here, talking about sick, exhausted border agents stoke exodus fear in migrant
surge. the migrants, the illegal aliens coming in, and i've been castigated for referring to them as aliens, like they're from some other planet. and i had to remind my colleagues, the very bill that they were supporting referred to them as aliens, and they were a little embarrassed because they didn't realize they referred to them as aliens. they thought it was just mean-spirited republicans. kind of interesting when you see that kind of thing. but it is a tragedy and it's a humanitarian crisis on our southern border. and it's no longer just a humanitarian crisis for those who are poring over our border illegally. they're taking their toll on the order patrolmen, and some have suspected that, gee, maybe that's a strategy of the democratic party. you keep talking about amnesty,
about getting rid of border enforcement, which will encourage more and more people to come in, you keep claiming that people, no matter whether they came in illegally or legally, should be allowed to vote. and keep encouraging people, and you refuse to give a dime for border enforcement, you refuse to give a dime for beds to house people that are poring in illegally, for what they need to be able to detain people that have committed criminal acts in coming into the country, you continue to talk about doing away with any criminality to violating the law, and more people come in, you devastate those officers who have taken an oath to defend our border and our constitution, and they're already having recruiting problems. why would somebody want to come work where you've got the major party, a major party of the two
in the country that castigates you as every turn, says you n't or won't protect babies, children, you don't care, you're mean, you're evil, when you're out there doing everything you can and you're being harassed, not being given what you need, and then we have this bill this week in judiciary talking about it was going to add millions and millions and millions of dollars of requirements for the border patrol to have to follow, lest they be pursued with some kind of charge or allegation. and yet note give them a dime to do -- not give them a dime to do those jobs, knowing that the result will be more and more people flooding in, more and more humanitarian crisis, then you blame the humanitarian crisis on those that are trying to secure our nation, and then
you allow -- give allowance for all of those people who have pored in illegally, many of them don't speak english, they don't know what's going on, they've never been educated on how you sustain a self-governing country . nd all i can figure is the assessment has to have been made, yes, it will have our country in chaos for a little while, and we'll have to take away some freedoms because of all the chaos, but that will, as people, as democrats have said, that will end the republican party nationally as the democrats were able to do in california with two or three million poring in and voting that had come in illegally after the amnesty in 1986.
actually after 1986, when they were given amnesty, now it's legal for them to vote and that changed california into a very democratic state. and there is aan assessment to eliminate the republican party. and once we do, and it's taken quite a toll on the country, we'll get control back again, we'll rein the chaos and the republicans will be gone and we will be a one-party country. somebody must have made that kind of assessment to be pushing the kind of bills that they are. to annot allow that chaos as r and to build because historians throughout time have country e you have a
that has had great freedom and it loses that freedom, it doesn't come back. reagan said, not in that generation. but i have trouble finding wherever it came brac once a nation of freedom lost -- back once a nation of freedom lost it. and if we done get things under control, god has blessed this country more than any country. i know solomon's israel was an absolutely amazing place, but there's no place that has ever had our opportunities, our individual freedoms, our individual assets. never in the history of the world. and there's nothing wrong with recognizing the greatness that america has been. it's only in recognizing
america's greatness that you can determine we want to perpetrate that for future generations to have those opportunities, those freedoms, those assets. but we're in trouble. nd there's got to be a change. or our time as the greatest country in history will become a self-fulfilling prophecy of those who say, agh, it was never a great country. i have always been embarrassed about america. that will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. we will lose our greatness and freedom. and having said to three individuals from australia that were here on capitol hill a couple of years ago, people have said, when we lose our freedom,
we can come to australia and one f them said, if you do not understand, china will take over australia before you get there. america is a shining light on the hill. we give people hope. i have heard it and seen it from africans with tears in their eyes and yeah, maybe are christians and maybe you would be prejudice against them, but they said we need america strong if we are going to have any chance of security and freedom in our country. let's keep america strong. let's support israel. let's support enforcing the law as it is, as it has been and as we need it to prolong and perpetrate this incredible country. with that, madam speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the
gentleman yields back the balance of his time. under the speaker's announced policy of january 3, 2019, the gentleman from hawaii, mr. case, is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority eader. mr. case: i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend tear remarks and include extraneous material on the subject of my special order. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. case: thank you, madam speaker. i rise as a proud member of the democratic blue dog coalition. for a quarter century, the blue dogs in congress have focused on
three missions, fiscal responsibility for our country, strong national defense and commonsense solutions to practical problems. we are 27 proud democrats with democratic values. our individual views and votes on the broad range of issues that come before this congress run the gambit from progressive to moderate, centrist and beyond, but together we have believe that the best way forward for our country on all of these issues is an underlying focus on fiscal responsibility, a strong national defense and commonsense solutions wherever they may be found to practical problems. today, i wish to focus on fiscal responsibility. and i do so as co-chair with my colleague from utah, mr. mcadams
of the task force on fiscal responsibility and government reform. and let me start by saying unfortunately and very directly that it is very arguable that at no point in our entire history have we operated our government in as fiscally irresponsible a manner than we are operating today. there is lots of evidence out there, but no where does it show up more directly and stare us straight in the face than our national debt. let me say what that is. our national debt is exactly what it sounds like. it is the amount that our federal government, you, owe to everybody who has loaned us money to pay for government. why do we have to do that? because we are not bringing into government the receive news that are sufficient to match and pay
for what we are paying for out of expenses. and we are now operating at a chronic and exploding deficit and we are borrowing with abandon to make up the difference. this particular chart is taken from the congressional budget office. you will not find a more sitive nonpartisan group studying our fiscal responsibilities and our budgets than the congressional budget office. i urge everyone to look at their materials at cbo.org. just one of their many publications. c.b.o., the budget and economic outlook, 2019. they are not only responsible what is happening today, but responsible tore taking a hook at the long-term as any one of us would want to do with our own
budget. and what this chart shows is outlays are spending on the top line and receive news on the bottom line. in this particular chart, we are matching outlays over time, the time frame here is about 15 years against gross domestic product, the percentage of gross domestic product. why is that important? it is important because one could have outlays and revenues coming in, but the only way to match it up is how much is the strength of your economy overall? it's like asking yourself, in my household budget, what is my level of spending and borrowing and level of income as opposed to my overall financial situation. and here we have the percentage of gross domestic product over on the left on the vertical axis and down here time. and we can see as we look out over a long period of time, this
is the c.b.o.'s projection, out 30 years, 2049, but if we continue on, we would see massive continuing spread of the two lines between expenses on the top and receive news at the bottom and to amplify this situation, when we look at where we are currently, 2019, that dotted line right over here, that's about a trillion dollars, that gap. a trillion dollars. $1 trillion in one year of a deficit. not only are we in a difficult situation today, but if we do nothing about it, it will spread over time. what finances that difference? we go out and borrow it. it doesn't arrive in an unmarked bag, we are operating at a chronic and exploding deficit and borrowing to make up this difference. i'm a returney.
i served from 2002 to 2007 and i tend to match up my experience versus then and now. 12-year absence. half a generation. when i left congress in early 2007, our national debt stood at $9 trillion, $9 trillion. today, our national debt stands at $22 trillion. and by the way, if you want a harrowing view of something, look at u.s. debt clock and watch the numbers turn over as rapidly as anything you can see. and what you can see from studying the debt over time is an incredible increase over on the right side of this chart. $22 trillion today. that's $68,300 for each and every citizen of this country.
$1883,000 for each taxpayer. 230 years in our country's country to get through the national debt of $9 trillion. but just 12 years later, increasing by 250% to $22.5 trillion? again, we just can't look at the absolute numbers because they don't tell the full story. if we had a thriving economy, some of these figures wouldn't make as much sense. take the total debt against the total domestic product. we can see here if we chart total debt against g.d.p., on the far left side, we have g.d.p., as a percent of g.d.p. and down here, we have a period
that starts at the origins of our country and concludes in 2049. from the start of our country to 2049, you can see the peaks. obviously our country was in bad shape at the beginning. d you can see the civil war, wars are times when we have to borrow money. wars are times that are difficult for economies and our expenses are up and people have needs and during that time we borrow money and we always tried or tried to pay it back down because we don't know when the next emergency will come along. we can see another peak here, world war i. we see the great depression right here. the great depression and franklin roosevelt's new deal which was financed with borrowing and then the tragedy of world war ii, the absolute
peak of our debt versus gross domestic product. and why not? our world was at war and the economy was in a shambles and we had to finance that war. not only did we finance that war but the recovery of the world, the marshal l plan and rebuilt our cities and national highway systems and incured that largely through debt. and we see again some peaks that were related to great recessions and downturns in our economy where we had to borrow for a little while and we came back down and come to the last 15, 20 years. up until this point, we operated fairly responsibly. 15 to 20 years, we abandoned fiscal responsibility. and we started down a road of
accelerating debt unrelated for the most part to wars owner iraq and afghanistan, which definitely had a consequence to our national debt. but mostly a result of the failure of this body and the administration to balance budgets as we went along. and here we are in 2017 and 2018 nd 2019 and what is more scary thing than anybody else? the c.b.o.'s projection of where it's going over time. through the roof, straight up. we can see here that this is not a partisan issue. this particular graph, graphs, again, percentage of g.d.p. over on the left, access and then on
the bottom, vertical access over time, in more recent history, the post-war period by presidencies. we have democrats in blue and republicans in red. we see over here president truman in the late 1940's had the high threshold of debt to g.d.p. a little over 100%. and then of course it came down after that as we recovered. and it went up in the era of some of our great recessions and of course our wars. and then we had really the period when we did the best, which was an evolution from president clinton into president bush, where we actually -- where the last time we balanced our budget. and then here's that spike, starting with president bush and through the last presidency and especially off the current presidency into an ascending column that is a projection from, again, the congressional budget office. these are scary projections
because c.b.o. probablies that if we do nothing -- projects that if we do nothing, we will see our debt climb to around 144% of g.d.p. within a couple of decades. now, where does that rank us in the world? because after all, we have other governments that have had high debt, we've had other governments that have collapsed. we have other governments for which their budget problems have caught up with them. let's take a look at that. this chart shows the period projected from the current year out only five years. and it asked the question, what is the growth in our debt to g.d.p. as compared to the rest of the world? how fast are we growing in our debt versus the rest of the world?
and unfortunately the line on the right is us. we project that our debt to g.d.p. will grow 11% over the next couple of years. the next line here is italy. we've got korea, we've got japan . but the rest of the world seems to be getting their growth under control. some of these countries are recovering from recessions. but some of these countries just have sound economic practices. the embarrassing thing about this chart, the scary thing about this chart, is we're not the world's leader. we're the world's loser in terms of controlling our national debt. now, why should we care about all of this? one of the questions that's asked sometimes is, why does debt matter? well, i think the first and foremost obvious answer is, debt costs something. it's not free. you borrow money, you pay interest. that's what everybody that loans us money expects. they expect to be paid some interest. and these interest payments accelerate rapidly in times of
accelerating debt. we see here a projection, again, based on figures from the congressional budget office, of interest spending over time. the next 10 years in this particular case. and we see here that today we have interest of somewhere around $400 billion a year. but accelerating at a very rapid rate over the next decade, up to close to $1 trillion a year. and the red line is a scenario that is very likely, if we do not actually make some tough decisions. so that gets us even higher. so this is the actual trend that we're looking at. now, that's a lot of money to be paying just for interest. to make matters worse, try to compare that level of interest
spending against some of our other spending. in this particular chart, we see here this line is our interest spending. kentrelltively modest until recently. but then accelerating very rapidly as was indicated in my prior chart to the levels that re out to 2029 and are truly scary. that's not the scary part, if that's not scary enough. this line here is our total spending on our children. so what do we do to take care of the children of our country? and that's our spending line. interest is just crossing it right now. this is our total defense spending. our total defense spending projected out over time with interest crossing over. so what this shows is we're about to pay, in a very short period of time, if we don't do anything, far more money in basic interest on our national
debt than we are spending on our children and on our defense. and that's an inexcusable situation for us to be in. so, the first basic problem is we crowd out spending for other federal purposes which forces us, by the way, to borrow more, which forces us to have higher debt, which forces us to pay more interest. everybody who has been in a business or a personal situation knows this. second basic problem with that, why should we care about debt, national security. where does this money come from? ho is lending us this money? 2/5 of our interest payments go overseas. 2/5 of the people in this world who are loaning us money, 2/5 of our total debt, is loaned to us basically by other countries. and other countries here, 26%, but this is the line that scarce you. china, up to 7% now. and growing.
japan, ok, fine, we welcome japan loaning money to us. but on balance i'd rather the blue be the blue. rather than owing the money to other countries. because who knows what's going to happen over the next 10 or 20 years or generations? and so this is obviously not just an issue of our own fiscal stability, but it is a question of national security. and another question of national security is we need this money in case we get into other situations in the world, hopefully not. but prepare for the situation where we may have to have massive increases in defense spending over the next generation. these are areas where we have traditionally tried to pay down our debt so that we can borrow back up to finance these additional expenditures without destroying our economy. and yet when we borrow in good times to finance even larger federal spending, then we have
very little safety net to be able to borrow in bad times. that's not just a matter of budgetary stability, that's a matter of national security. and then finally, why should it matter, economic damage. economists, most economists, there's a school out there that is trying to justify more debt, which is largely not agreed to by most economists, but most economists agree that over time large levels of debt, large levels of interest payments drive up basic interest rates. they drive up basic interest rates and that's bad for an economy. they drive up inflation and that's bad for the economy. they lead to a situation where the markets out there, the people that are loaning us money, the people that are relien -- relying on the united states for its full faith and credit, start to doubt our basic fiscal solvency and they start to not only not loan us money, but they start to charge us more interest.
and that causes an economic problem. and then finally, it's just bad budgetary practice to skate too closely on thin ice. so this is why we should care. because our interest payments are crowding out our spending. because it's a national security issue. and because over time it's an economic issue. how did we get into this mess? obviously we're spending more than we're taking in. our long-term deficit buildup and short-term tax reduction in spending increases are really the issue. this chart -- and spending increases are really the issue. an illustration again based on c.b.o. information of where our deficits are coming from today. and when we're talking about the level of deficits total among the deficits of closing in on $1 trillion, we see that absent recent legislation, so we're
talking about just the last five years or so, we had a chronic deficit going of close to $400 billion a year. which is pretty bad since if you take $400 billion and times it by five years, all of a sudden you're at $2 trillion of debt. but then we made major mistakes from a fiscal responsibility perspective in the last few years. first of all, we had tax extenders that were not paid for. we'll get into that. so we had tax credits, tax reductions, tax rates that were extended without accounting on the other side for the spending. we had a major tax bill, which is still debated in this chamber , as to whether it was the right idea or not. but what is indisputable about that tax bill was that it drove incredibly increasing deficits and incredibly rapidly increasing debt. and then finally, we had a budget agreement last year to raise the amount of spending. now, there's nothing wrong with raising the amount of spending per se if it's a public judgment and a policy judgment, that
that's the best thing for our country. what is wrong is to pretend that there's no consequence to our deficit, to our debt, and to our national fiscal policy. so, what do we do about it? and by the way, i just want to go back to that point for a second. we are not debating here whether our government should be bigger or smaller. we are not debating here whether taxes should be higher or lower. we can have that debate. it's been going on, after all, for a 2 -- for 250 years, and even before that, back to the colonies. we've always talked about how big government should and shouldn't be, how much we should or shouldn't spend through government. we just had that debate here on this floor today. we've always talked about the overall level of taxes. should they be higher, should they be lower, should we have high taxes to pay for spending? should they be lower to generate economics economic growth? those are good, solid policy decisions to be made.
that's not what we're talking about here. what we're talking about here is the fiscal reresult when you don't balance your spending and your revenues. the result when you don't balance your spending and your revenues. so you can choose to have high spending, but if you don't generate the revenue for that, then you're going to end up with incredible taxation. you can choose to have -- i'm sorry, incredible deficits and debt. you can choose to have lower taxes, but if you don't adjust the spending at the same time, you're going to end up with high-def sits and debt. it -- high deficits and debt. it just makes perfect sense. so that's all we are talking about here. we are willing and able to have the debate over the size of government and taxes and, again, within our blue dog caucus, we have disagreements on that. but where we have a centralization of agreement is in the constant -- managing the consequence of that debate and having it be an honest debate. not a debate that pulls the wool over our fellow citizens' eyes
on the consequence. so what do we do about it? i think, first of all, we start talking about it again. you know, it's really hard, 20 years ago, in the great times when we actually did balance the budget, in the late 1990's and early 2000's, public sentiment was high on deficits and debt. people cared about this. people understood the risk. and then all of a sudden politicians started -- stopped talking about it. they did, on both sides of the aisle, what many of us do when faced with a major issue. we deny it. we don't want to acknowledge it. it's too much trouble. we don't want to say that when we cut taxes and we don't adjust spending, that there's a consequence through our deficit and debt. we don't want to say the reverse of that. and we want to tell everybody that everything's ok. after all, you can have your cake and eat it too. i don't want to go back to my district and say, well, you know, i can't vote for a tax reduction, because it's going to blow our deficit and debt.
this is an insidious situation. these things don't catch up. the consequences of deficits and debt are not apparent right out front. they don't catch up with you for a long time. but i think we all know deep down we have a problem and it's not true. and the second thing we have to do at some point is simply make a plan and implement it. and that's what our democratic blue dog coalition has done. and will try to do going forward. we have tried to come up with a blueprint for fiscal responsibility. which today we endorsed and released. and these are a series of points that we believe need to be pursued in order to have some chance at fiscal responsibility and sustainability over time. and from that perspective, i'm very pleased that i'm joined today by my colleague from utah, mr. mcadams, my co-chair of the
blue dog task force on fiscal responsibility and government reform, to share his views and to outline some of our agenda items. i yield. mr. mcadams: thank you, thank you, representative case, for organizing this special order today. and thank you for your outstanding work as co-chair of the blue dog fiscal responsibility and government reform task force. i'm lucky to serve alongside you as co-chair and i also want to thank stephanie murphy for her tireless leadership in congress and with the blue dogs. . washington has an addiction problem, it is hooked on deficits and debt and our entire nation and our children and their children will pay the price for this addiction. on march 2, 2019, the debt limit was reinstated at $22 trillion, as representative case so appropriately outlined, and to operate the government at that limit, the treasury department
deployed extraordinary measures, accounting maneuvers allowing government operations to continue. but if those measures run out and our cash reserves are depleted, the federal government would reach the unprecedented day on which federal -- our federal government cannot meet all of its obligations in full and on time. the consequences of defaulting on our obligations are unknown but could be economically devastating, not only for the united states but globally. as fed chairman said about the prospect of not raising the debt limit, it's beyond even considering for the united states to not honor its obligations and pay them when due. it's something that can't even be considered, he said. we know that the cost of barreling towards this fiscal clife are mounting. american taxpayers foot the bill on additional borrowing costs. in previous years, uncertainty
has caused interest rates on some treasury bills to spike in anticipation of going over the fiscal cliff resulting in millions and billions of dollars. as we have done more than 100 times, we are now preparing to vote to raise the debt limit. raising it does not authorize new spending, but enables the government to pay its bills and avoid the reality of becoming an untrustworthy borrower. what better time to pair that vote with a plan to reform government spending. it's not as if we woke up this morning to face this fiscal calamity, it has been building for decades. both parties and republican and democratic administrations have contributed to the problem. the question is, what are we going to do about it and when we will start to get our borrowing
and spending addiction under control? the blue dog coalition of which i am a proud member has a well deserved republic putigse of talking the talk and walking the walk. look at the blue dog priorities on fiscal responsibility and you will see a list of steps we can take some of which we have already taken. for example, blue dogs support the house pay-go rules. one of the first things we fought for and i was pleased to see the house keep pay-go rules. we don't want those rules to be waived but if they are, a vote should be held on waiver. we support a constitutional amendment to require a balanced budget every year except in times of war, in times of national emergency or recession. my first bill introduced in this congress was this exact balanced
budget that the blue dogs endorse. we want to return to regular order. passing a budget every year and on time and avoiding omnibus appropriation practices that do not align. as a former mayor who had to balance a budget every year and do so in a bipartisan fashion, i was then as i am now accountable to the taxpayers for every dollar we spent. to elected officials face tough tradeoffs? absolutely. it comes with the jobs. such as hardworking families and business owners must do, we must work together to set priorities and make sure the checkbook balances at the end of each month. it's important we fully offset the cost of spending and fiscal revenues. with spending cuts and revenue increases, we must make those tough choices. we need to ensure a fiscally
responsible budget. the blue dogs support better oversight over government spending. the g.a.o. is an important entity that holds federal agencies accountable to taxpayers and recommends improvements. we believe that congress should know what it is voting on by having every conference report and bill that comes to the floor of the house accompanied by a cost estimate prepared by the nonpartisan congressional budget office and should be done 24 hours in advance of the floor vote. committees should identify proper and related offsets before the legislation is reported out of committee. $22 trillion debt burden is a heavy burden to eliminate, but at the very least, we should agree not to take on new policies that add to that debt. we teach our kids if they want
something badly enough, they have to figure out how to pay for it. tax reform should be deficit neutral and spending plans should be paid for and emergency spending which should respond when our communities need it most, should include a plan to for it and we can plan ahead for those emergencies and get away from the emergency spending and figure out how to establish a rainy-day fund which 45 states have. every man and woman and child in america owes $68,000 as their share of the national debt. we will all be morally bankrupt as well as financially bankrupt if we don't stop kicking the can down the road and making future generations liable for decisions . my colleagues ask me why
deficits matter. my answer is because future generations will be forced to bear the burden of our failure. the cost of paying interest on our debt is the fastest growing part of the budget. we will spend more on interest than on defense by the year 2025. that's six years from now. let that sink in. the government is projected to spend $383 billion on interest payments for its debt this year alone, this year. $383 billion. so why do i care about the debt and deficits? it's because a strong fiscal house means we have a stronger country. that $383 billion spent on interest payments on our debt is $383 billion we can spend on other priorities such as clean energy, education and affordable
health care. the interest we are paying on the debt is be coming part of the debt. if you care about health care and care about climate change and building a 21st century infrastructure system and care about affordable housing and any other investment that the government can make, i urge you care about the debt and deficits because every dollar spent paying down on the interest of that debt is one more dollar that could have been invested in priorities that strengthen our country and strengthen our national defense and strengthens the american people. it is clear we are on a dangerous and unsustainable course. the decisions will not be easy, but our children and our grandchildren are counting on us to make this right. we were elected to make tough decisions. thank you. i yield back to representative case. mr. case: thank you so much to the gentleman and i'm privileged
to be your co-chair. would you engage me in a colloquy? mr. mcadams: i would be happy to. let's talk about your proposed balance amendment which i'm a proud co-sponsor. some people criticized the balanced budget amendment that would have to be ratified throughout our country as an overly restrictive measure. as your balanced budget amendment is crafted, is there flexibility to borrow money and deficit spend in times of genuine national need? mr. mcadams: there may be emergencies that are unforeseen and unplnd for. the language in my amendment would allow deficit spending to help our communities in times of need and types of natural disaster. mr. case: we have the ability to override the basic provisions without balanced budget amendment in congress where we believe that we do have to
borrow that money. this is a mechanism to introduce the same fiscal discipline that a well-run business or household has to follow. mr. mcadams: that is correct. mr. case: 49 out of 50 of our states who have a similar balanced budget amendment in their statute? mr. mcadams: my state has established a rainy day fund that when emergencies arrive, they have funds available to account for that and i would urge us to not only have that flexibility built into the language of the amendment but to plan ahead. we don't know what the next emergency will be or where it will strike. we know dark days will be ahead of us and there will be national emergencies. mr. case: you made reference to the fact that you were a mayor and i made the comment to you that all of the public officials i ever worked with, i think mayors understand fiscal
responsibility the best. and how you made reference to the fact that you fentioned under a balanced budget as a mayor. was there any magic doing that? how did you do that? you had a requirement, so what did you do? mr. mcadams: one thing i know from experience balancing budgets are hard. we have to make tough choices. there are things that may not be meritorious expenses that are easy to say no to. we have to make tough decisions. we can't do it all even though we want to do it all. and what it takes is first of all having a relationship, a bipartisan relationship where people put their priorities on the table, discuss what they want to accomplish and how they want to get there. and then you have to work together to refine proposals and make sure every proposal you cut the fat out of proposals and make sure they are well refined.
and ultimately, we have balanced the budget and have to make tough decisions because there is that expectation requirement that we get there. mr. case: my experience in hawaii where we had a balanced budget in long time and i was a state legislator and i had ghts whether it be increased spending, it was always against the backdrob drop and the folks that we represented understood that that presented us as a series of tough choices and understood in the big picture d the tough choices were for the long-term big picture fiscal health, economic health and social health of hawaii. did you have that experience in you ta? mr. mcadams: it made us bad, we ad a aaa bond rating and the
faith in our ability to pay our debt meant we paid lower interest rates. and we saved tax dollars because people knew we could balance our budget. and i would like to add one point, fiscal responsibility is important, it's important for our state and our country. another element that i found in the process of balancing a budget, when we had to make the tough choices, when the lemminger had to balance, we were forced to look at every expenditure and asked ourselves can we stretch our dollars further, is the program or endeavor we are engaged in the lowest cost alternative, tax dollars being spent wisely, programs invested in our citizens, whether it's a program to reduce crime, improve early childhood learning, we were expected to look at the if he
cantiveness of each and every program because we had to make competing choices and choosing between one good and a better good and that required us to quantify the outcomes we were receiving from our programs. that was good for fiscal responsibility but good for the people we were serving because the programs were expected to improve and we held those programs to a high standard on behalf of the citizens we served. mr. case: what you are saying in a very gracious you ta way, you had the recourse to just borrow money and kick cans down the road, this incentive advises the government funds, taxpayer funds because after all if there is waste in that expenditure, there is a safety valve, where the budget drives a certain discipline. mr. mcadams: waste is in piling snow or fixing street lights is one thing, but programs that
serve our residents, there is a human costs to programs that aren't held to a high standard. it takes toll on individuals and families, people promised with one scrout come. there is a human cost. . . you referenced pay-go. of course we throw pay-go around here all of the time. and sometimes people's eyes kind of blank out when you talk about pay-go. can you just talk a little bit more about the simplistic, you know, the basic approach that pay-go --, what does that mean and how does it affect the work we do? >> the rules of the house require that any legislation that would have a fiscal impact has to be paid for. we can't simply add that on to the tab. mr. mcadams: put it on the taxpayers' credit card. but every legislation has to be paid for up front. mr. case: in other words, not financed by additional debt.
mr. mcadams: which would have the result of driving up the deficit and the debt and interest payments. mr. case: that's right. mr. mcadams: i describe it as saying, first rule when you find yourself in a hole and you're not sure how to get out, stop digging. mr. case: right. let's take a pretty straightforward example. let's say that we want to reduce taxes. pay-go would say that in order to make taxes budget-neutral, and by the way, we can acknowledge there's a debate about whether reducing taxes does in fact generate revenue or not. but for these purposes and spermy -- especially the reason large -- recent large tax cut, we did not see a return on revenues from those tax cuts. but let's just stick with the fact. if you reduce taxes, then you've got to either increase another tax and/or reduce government spending somewhere to be able to have a budget-neutral, a deficit-neutral outcome. is that correct? mr. mcadams: that's right. every activity, whether reducing revenues or increasing spending,
should not -- should be neutral as it relates to the federal deficit. mr. case: ok. and then conversely, if we want to increase federal spending, we've either got to reduce some other federal spending or increase taxes, correct? mr. mcadams: correct. mr. case: you said the house rules already provide for pay-go, so why are we so concerned about it? mr. mcadams: one of my concerns is the willingness with which both sides, both parties will waive pay-go. it takes a simple majority to waive pay-go. and we've seen that happen from time to time. whether it's exidgent circumstances like emergencies. but other things that we can plan ahead and should look ahead for. mr. case: so we have a rule that's honored in the breach. mr. mcadams: yes. mr. case: and this is one of the elements of our blue dog fiscal responsibility blueprint is to tighten up the rules on pay-go so we do stop the bleeding on debt and deficit spending. mr. mcadams: exactly. mr. case: i thank you very much. again, i'm honored to be your co-chair and thank you for adding to our debate today.
mr. mcadams: thank you. mr. case: i want to make one other point before i close on this subject. and i wanted to emphasize one of the points made by my colleague from utah. he talked about restoring the budget and appropriations process. now, this starts to be real inside baseball. the process by which congress goes through establishing a budget, which is the overall outline of federal spending for the next year, because we do everything on a yearly basis for the most part, and then passing appropriations bills that are consistent with that budget. in other words, we make the big picture decision up front in a budget, and then we have our appropriations bills, with which -- which must match that budget. then what we refer to here as regular order, what we would do is we would first have a budget resolution which passes the house, passes the senate, is agreed to by both of the house and the senate so we know what our road map is, and then we would take each of the areas of
government that needs appropriations every year and there are, the way we do it, 12 separate appropriations bills. and we would individually pass each of those bills. consistent with the budget. and we would do all of that by october 1. which is when our fiscal year starts. and we would call that regular order. and that would be quite regular order for any business, any personal budget. the last time we followed regular order was 1995. the last time we went through a full budget process and individual appropriations bill process was 1995. and that has simply thrown our federal fiscal house into disarray. we saw that with an incredibly tragic, unnecessary federal government shutdown just late last year and earlier this year. that was in part to be laid at the feet of our failure to
follow basic budgetary and fiscal and appropriations procedures. we have tried on a bipartisan basis to fix this. in fact, just last year we had a bicameral, bipartisan committee set up to reform the rules of the house and the senate as to the budget and the appropriations process. and i want to read just a passage from that committee's eport. this was the joint select committee on budget and appropriations process reform. republicans and democrats, house and senate. and here is a quote from the committee's report in late 2018. there have been numerous breakdowns in the budget process in recent decades. fiscal year 1995 was the last time congress passed a conference report on the budget resolution, followed by passage of 13 separate appropriations
bills before the beginning of the new fiscal year. we now do 12. continuing resolutions, c.r.'s, have become the status quo for funding the federal government. demonstrating congress' failure to complete its work on time. c.r.'s create uncertainty for agencies and the american people. and by the way, i stopped to describe a c.r. as a resolution that says, sorry, we can't figure out what to do in this next fiscal year, for that fiscal year. so while we're trying to figure it out, all we're going to do is continue to spend the way we did in the last fiscal year. no adjustment of spending levels or priorities, no update for current situations, let's just kick this can down the road. that's a c.r. back to the report. in many years there has been concern that parts of the government would have to shut down due to the failure to enact, even stop gap -- enact even stop gap appropriations and shutdowns of various drations have already occurred. in the 115th congress alone, the most recent congress, there have
been two government shutdowns. whether it was federal employees being furloughed, national parks shutting down, adverse effects on defense and law enforcement, shutdowns inflict severe damage and uncertainty on the nation's fiscal state. additionally, multiple members of this committee expressed frustration regarding the lack of legislative tools available for congress to address national needs or the national debt in a bipartisan manner. the committee's report was submitted very, very late in the last congress. so there was really not enough time to debate it fully and to proceed. but the report certainly remains highly relevant, together with recommended legislation. me, r blue dog, excuse committee believes that reform along those lines is necessary. finally, and i don't speak now for the blue dogs, but i do speak for myself and i believe many individual blue dogs and
perhaps overs -- others. we have another mechanism available to us. a mechanism that we shouldn't have to follow, but sometimes may be the only way to cut through the political dialogue and the fears of people to make tough decisions. and that is to develop independent commissions outside congress of experts, hopefully on a neutral basis. hopefully on a nonpartisan, bipartisan basis, who are charged with reviewing and making decisions on revenue and spending matters and reporting their results back to congress, hopefully for an up or down vote. because if congress gets the opportunity to pick at a report, a balanced report, once it comes back, then it defeats the purpose of the commission to start with. simpson-bowles was one very well known commission which failed. there have been others. but it is certainly conceivable that if we can't get our act in order in congress, as we should be able to do, as i believe the
american people want and think we should do, then we need to resort to some other mechanism to get this house in order. finally, we need public support. we need to get people involved again in this issue. as i said earlier, the late 1990's and early 2000's were the height of public concern over the deficits and debt. and it resulted in external pressure to congress to balance our budget. and a succession two presidents with bipartisan congresses, by the way, got it balanced. the public demanded it, we delivered. now it's a forgotten issue almost. it doesn't even rank in the top 10. -- 10 of major issues. we have many, many major issues. but i'll tell you one thing, the issues that are in the top 10 are solutions to those issues -- our solutions to those issues will be crippled if dwonet get our basic fizzle -- if we don't get our basic fiscal house in
order. the blue dogs do believe we are in fact in a national crisis. we stand ready to work with nyone and everyone towards commonsense, mainstream solutions. thank you very much. yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. does the gentleman have a motion for adjournment? mr. case: madam speaker, i move that the house do now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted. accordingly, the house stands adjourned until
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remarks from 2020 presidential democratic candidate bernie sanders and spoke about his medicare for all proposal yesterday at george washington yesterday. this is about 45 minutes. cheers and applause] senator sanders: let's make a political revolution. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: let me thank all of you for being here this afternoon to discuss one of the country,ses facing our
crisis that is on the minds of people all across the nation and let me thank the dozens of organizations throughout america who have supported my medicare for all bill and let me thank the tens of thousands ofdom tors and nurses and other health care professionals who understand that we cannot continue with the current dysfunctional health care system and let me thank the 14 co-sponsors of my legislation in the senate and the over 100 co-sponsors of similar legislation in the house. and mostly, let me take this opportunity to thank the american people, who increasingly understand that health care is a human right,