tv President Trump Marks 50th Anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon Landing CSPAN July 20, 2019 7:33pm-8:02pm EDT
interpreting the law as written, it creates a political situation and it's not altogether surprising that the process itself becomes political. , a guide toeastern understanding the u.s. constitution. lot onestion i get a television and regular conversation is, can he do that? can the president do that? my answer is, that is the wrong question. my answer is, if he does that, and we have had presidents who don't cross certain boundaries, what are the consequences? >> watch tv every weekend on c-span2. trump marks the 50th anniversary of apollo 11. at the white house, he welcomed two of the three mission
astronauts and the son of late astronaut neil armstrong. commented on his remarks about democratic house members. >> tomorrow is 50 years since we planted a flag on the moon. we are going a lot further now, to the moon and then to mars. i think importantly, all of you folks know from the standpoint of defense, it is so important. we will be doing the space force
, i assume you are in favor of the space force. to be doing the space force, we are close to getting that completed and operating and it will be very exciting. a lot of things are happening. we have with us buzz aldrin, who has been an incredible gentleman. i've known him a long time and we have been friends a long time. just a fantastic man. michael collins you all know flu apollo 11 overhead. aldrin and armstrong walked on the moon.
these are great men and women. great genes. tomorrow is a great day, 50 years. have jim, the head of nasa. nasa has done a whole different thing. , it isdy wanted that job a love for space that is unparalleled. we felt strongly about jim and gave him the job and he has surpassed our expectations. nasa is back. we are having a rich guys use it and pay us wretch -- pay as rent. i like that. a lot of rich guys have been sending of rockets and that goes to our credit and their credit, but we like it. we opened up our field.
they were covered with grass and broken and in bad shape. you look at kennedy in florida, where every you want to look, it was not a pretty picture. abandoned andst now they are in tip top shape and rockets are going up all the time. we would lease rockets from russia and other countries to send people up and we appreciate the relationship with russia, but we will be doing it ourselves heard -- ourselves. we are in a position we have not been in in many years. space is important for defense and offense. about going to the moon and mars because we don't know what we will find on mars but it is certainly a trip that will be very interesting. to get to mars, you have to land on the moon, they say. going directly without landing on the moon, is it a possibility?
>> we use the moon as a proving ground. because only go to mars, we will be there along time. >> how long a trip to mars? >> about seven months there. earth and mars are only on the same side of the sun once every 26 months so we have to be prepared to stay on mars for long periods of time. we prove that on the moon. >> if you miss the timing, you are in deep trouble. you don't want to be on the ship. what do you think? >> you come back and try it again. >> how you feel about it? >> mars directs. direct.ems to me mars who knows better than these people? what about the concept of mars direct? >> the challenge is, if we go
directed to mars, there will be a lot of things we haven't yet proven. we need to use the resources of another world in order to live and work for long periods of time. the moon has hundreds of millions of tons of water ice we discovered in 2009. that represents life support. it is also rocket fuel. hydrogen and oxygen. mr. president, that is an available market where some of these commercial guys are interested in going to the moon fortilize the resource their own space on the moon. it could be for tourism or resources. >> they haven't landed that close to that portion of the moon you're talking about. >> that is correct, in the apollo era, it was in the equatorial region.
and 2009, many believed the moon was bone dry and now we know there is water. we need to learn how to use it so we can live and work and ultimately late gives us the opportunity to go to mars. >> you feel that landing on the moon first and figuring it out and getting ready to launch -- you feel launching -- you are essentially launching from the moon to mars. >> the best way to think about it is we learn how to live and work on the moon but we launched to mars from a space station we have in orbit around the moon, which we call gateway. it gives us access to the moon but ultimately becomes the deep space transport for mars. with a gateway, we will have more access to more parts of the solar system with humans than we could have otherwise he comes from the moon, it is very easy because the moon's gravity is very small. just so you know, jim was a
great congressman. he was with me most of the time, not all the time. it was not that easy of a decision for me, but that is ok. got to knowonce i him and once he got to know me, it was a different ballgame. you've done a fantastic job. you love it. he loves appeared -- loves it. where is mike? tell me what you think of what jim is doing, nasa is doing. what you think of the job they are doing? >> thank you, mr. president. enthusiasm for our nasa administrator, he has done a phenomenal job. into practice your vision for reviving american leadership in human space expiration. -- space exploration.
ovalto be here in the office with buzz aldrin, michael collins, and the family of strong -- family of neil thetrong as we celebrate 50th anniversary of the apollo 11 mission is very humbling for me. leadership,for your you provide to the national space council. you asked us to lead it and we have revived american leadership in space. we are launching a space forced to make sure we can defend the nation and the outer reaches of space. because of your leadership, everyone gathered here, i know these families are excited to know that within the next year we will be able to return american astronauts to space on american rockets from american soil. that is all a result of your leadership. [applause]
>> the family of neil armstrong, please hold up your hands. do you have any questions? one thing i think before we go, i do have one question -- private wealthy guys are spending a lot of money with you right now, a lot. -- aree they are losing using the facilities to send of the rockets. charge them because they have so much money they don't know what to do with it. you have to like rockets.
how much of the work you are doing is privately financed? bezos, or ier it is could name -- many involved. how much of the work is private versus government funding? >> right now on the international space station, we are commercially resupplying the international space station by buying service from these commercial providers who have invested their own money, because they are looking for a market, they are looking for business that is not necessarily us. which means our costs go down and our access goes up. that is resupplied to the international space station. now we are doing commercial to
the international space station, and the value is this. this is a public-private partnership where we are going to have the opportunity in the future to have nasa be one customer of many customers in a very robust marketplace in lower orbit, where the costs go down, access goes up, but we also want to make sure, this is important, we have numerous providers competing against each other on cost and innovation. and as they compete, our costs will go down and access goes up. the goal being we want more access to space than ever before. that is ultimately how we are going to go to the moon. that is how we are going to get to mars, and there are markets out there that are not nasa. that is a good thing for our country. president trump: what about our defense industry? >> nasa has a lot of technology we developed that the department of defense takes advantage of, and that goes back to alan shepard launching into space. he launched on an icbm. there is a lot of back-and-forth between what nasa does for science and technology and what the department of defense does for the national security interests of the country. i have been very public about
it, the united states air force is an amazing institution. the challenges to their budget are pretty steady, and yet the greatest threats that the air force deals with are in space and cyberspace. these are areas where the air force is going to run out of capacity from a national security perspective. we need to take that element and create a separate space force where we can organize and equip a cadre of professionals that keep us safe from that keep us safe from a space perspective. by doing that, we would have more opportunity to explore space than we otherwise would. president trump: fantastic job. michael collins flew apollo 11. what is the difference, that was a long time ago, with that, and what they are doing today, because you are abreast of what they are doing today? >> the whole system has advanced. we are talking a minute ago about private funds. i think that is wonderful. the more the merrier.
the money that musk and bezos, money out of their own pocket, it is all one lump as far as i am concerned. maybe the budgeteers don't agree, but the more the merrier. private funds, appropriated funds, we need them both. let's go with both. president trump: you like that total concept? >> yes. president trump: do you see a tremendous advancement from apollo 11? elon musk, i see the propulsion systems come back, and they reuse them again. that was unthinkable a long time ago. >> yes, that was one-shot and they fell into the ocean in a tremendous waste of five good rocket motors for every saturn five that you sent up. that's the most dramatic new idea, the reusability.
how many things in our life to we use once and throw away? too many. maybe that reusability doctrine could be more widespread and the rest of our economy. president trump: very good point. vice president pence: mr. president, you signed the directive saying america was going to return to the moon, then mars, was one of the first acts of the administration. but this president has also taken action to streamline regulations for private space exploration. the president's vision is that we will continue to have american leadership in space. some of that will come from nasa, some of that will come as a part of our national defense, but much of that will come by unleashing the entrepreneurial energy of american space entrepreneurs, and all of it represents what i know all the families are excited about, renewed american leadership in human space exploration.
and it all comes through articulating and putting into practice your visions, mr. president. president trump: thank you very much, mike. buzz, maybe say a few words. you have been watching the space program closely, and what a career you have had. great careers. what would you say? >> i've been disappointed in the last 10, 15 years. we were able to achieve so much, maybe because of conflicts in had tost asia, we terminate the apollo program and moved in other directions. but in the last 50 years we had a rocket, saturn five, and it took a command module, a spacecraft, and the lunar module, but we all went together and we got into the lander and we landed. and we came back.
we have the number one rocket right now in the u.s., and we have the number one spacecraft, and they cannot get into lunar orbit with significant maneuvering capability. that's a great disappointment. president trump: how do you feel about that, jim? >> we are working on it. the orion crew capsule is amazing, and we need it to go to the moon in five years. that is the direction we are on right now. when we are there, the gateway is going to attach to a small module and orbit around the moon, think of it as a small space station, and that is going to give us that maneuvering capability to go out of lunar orbit and back up to a lander. those are the pieces of the architecture we are working on. president trump: some people would like to do this a different way. listen to buzz.
i know this has been going on, and we are so advanced, but i would like to hear the other side. >> yes, sir. the other real benefit of space is the inspiration it provides for all the kids out there, not just the u.s., but around the world, to focus on achieving their dreams, studying science and math and engineering, and i have heard from so many people who have said, i was inspired to be what i am because of what i saw in the apollo program. the value of that is tremendous. i think we need more of that. i'm really hoping that days like today will help do that, and with the increased activity in space we are all talking about here, will all help that.
president trump: you have a great family. thank you very much. we are bringing the glamour back to it, because it lost the glamour, it lost everything. if you would have seen these fields when we took over, it was unbelievable, a year ago it , looked like an abandoned town, and now there is beauty, there is beauty, and there is a lot of things happening, a lot of great things are happening so we are really proud of that. thank you all very much. we appreciate it. thank you. [indiscernible] >> you shot down a drone yesterday. there is no doubt about that, right? president trump: no, we shut it down. i'm behind a desk in the oval office, but john, john bolton, are you there? >> there is no question this was an iranian drone. the uss boxer took it out, as
the president announced, because it posed a threat to the ship and crew. it was entirely the right thing to do. >> are you concerned about a broader clash with iran? president trump: not at all. we have the greatest people, greatest equipment, greatest ships, most deadly ships, we don't want to have to use them but they are the most deadly ships ever conceived, and we hope for their sake they don't do anything foolish. if they do, they will pay a price like nobody has ever paid a price. reporter: you said you were not unhappy about that chant, but the chant was repeated. president trump: you know what i am unhappy with? i'm unhappy with the fact that a congresswoman can hate our country. i'm unhappy with the fact that a congresswoman can say anti-semitic things. i'm unhappy with the fact that a congresswoman, in this case a different congresswoman, can call our country and our people garbage.
that is what i am unhappy with. those people in north carolina, that stadium was packed, it was a record crowd, and i could have filled it 10 times, as you know. those are incredible people. those are incredible patriots. but i'm unhappy when a congresswoman goes and says, i am going to be the president's nightmare. she is going to be the president's nightmare. she is lucky to be where she is, let me tell you, and the things that she has said are a disgrace to our country. thank you, very much. >> [indiscernible] president trump: a$ap rocky is a situation in sweden. sweden is a great country. they are friends of mine, the leadership, and we are going to be calling, talking to them, we have already started.
and many, many members of the african-american community have called me, friends of mine, and said, could you help? so i personally don't know asap rocky, but i can tell you he has tremendous support from the african-american community in this country, and when i say african-american, i can say really from everybody in this country, because we are all one. i have been called by so many people asking me to help asap rocky. the one who knew about asap rocky was our first lady, right? she was telling me about asap rocky. do you want to give a little statement on that? mrs. trump: i will be working with this state department and we hope to get him home soon. president trump: we had a very good relationship with sweden, as you know, we've had a very good relationship in sweden, so that is pretty much it. thank you, all, very much. [shouted questions]
president trump: hopefully we are in good shape on the debt ceiling. i can't imagine anybody even thinking about using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge. when i first came into office i asked about the debt ceiling, and i certainly understand that the highest-rated credit ever in history and the debt ceiling. i said, i remember, to senator schumer and nancy pelosi, would anybody ever use that to negotiate with? and they said, absolutely not, that is a sacred element of our country. they can't use the debt ceiling to negotiate. don't forget, president obama, during his eight years, he created, he doubled the debt. you take every president, every president prior to president obama, he then took it and doubled the debt, over $10 trillion. $10 trillion with a t, not a b, not $1 million, not $1 billion, president obama put $10 trillion and doubled the debt.
it went from $10 trillion to $20 trillion and some even went above $20 trillion. some of it is attributed to him. when you start talking about using the debt ceiling as a wedge to negotiate or things that they want, they have told me very strongly they would never use that. that is a very, very sacred thing in our country, the debt ceiling. we can never play with it. so i would have to assume we are in great shape. but just remember also, the previous administration doubled the debt in our country. you take all of the presidents that came before, doubled the debt. pretty big statement, and certainly it's a big statement to be talking about for that party to be talking about using the debt ceiling. and i don't think they are. it has been mentioned, but i don't think they are, i don't think anybody would want to play that card. >> boris johnson, it looks like
he is going to be the new british prime minister. what you think? president trump: i like him, i like boris johnson. i spoke to him yesterday. i think he's going to do a great job. we are going to have a great relationship. they have done a very poor job with brexit. the previous prime minister has done a very bad job with exit. -- with brexit. what can i say? it's a disaster. it shouldn't be that way. i think boris will straighten it out. i like boris johnson. i always have. he is a different kind of a guy, but they say i'm a different kind of a guy, we get along well. i think we will have a great relationship. thank you. >> [indiscernible] ongoing tension? president trump: ongoing tension between japan and korea, yes. the president of korea asked if i could get involved. i said how many things do i have to get involved in? i'm involved in north korea, i'm involved with so many different things. we just did a trade deal, great great deal, with south korea. but he tells me they have a lot of friction going on now with respect to trade, primarily with respect to trade, and japan has
some things south korea wants, and he asked me to get involved, so maybe if they would both want me to, it's like a full-time job, getting involved between japan and south korea. but i like both leaders, i like president moon, and you know how i feel about prime minister abe, very special guy also. so if they need me up there, hopefully they can work it out, but they do have tension, there is no question about it. trade tension, ok? thank you. [shouted questions] >> thank you, very much. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> tonight on c-span, cbs news
broadcast of the apollo 11 moon landing from 1969, anchored by walter cronkite. then, remarks from members of the u.s. house of representatives on the 50th anniversary of the moon landing. c-span's "washington journal," live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. morning, we talk about public opinion and campaign 2020. then, we discuss "american carnage." be sure to watch "washington journal" sunday morning. join the discussion. cronkite with cbs news
apollo 11overage of arriving on the moon in 1969 and the moonwalk of astronauts buzz aldrin and neil armstrong. it included scenes of mission control in houston and live pictures from the moon itself. president nixon also made a telephone call to the astronauts after they planted the u.s. flag near the landing site. >> we are getting a picture on the tv.