tv National Governors Association Summer Meeting Day 2 - PART 1 CSPAN July 28, 2019 4:05pm-5:24pm EDT
african-americans. that is a disgrace and that is why we will defeat this president. the national governors association held its annual summer meeting in celtic city. next, we hear from jody singer. mission.ut nasa's discussionlowed by a on how to make roadways safer. this is about one hour and 20 minutes. >> and now we welcome to the podium nga's chair, governor steve bullock. gov. bullock: good afternoon, everybody. i hope everyone enjoyed yesterday's policy sessions and social events. we had governors only breakfast. oh there is governor herbert. governor herbert, again, i think i could speak for everyone in saying that the tabernacle choir
was just absolutely incredible. [applause] gov. bullock: so thank, not you, but the first lady, because i know she did most of the work the last couple days, hosting us at the s i, you have a wonderful office building. today, we kick off a celebration of america's space program. the one instruction to me about -- i cannot take this to my 12-year-old son, so i will not touch it, but to get us started, i will recognize my friend and nga vice chair governor hogan of maryland. [applause] gov. hogan: good morning, everybody. as you know, we are celebrating the 50th anniversary of apollo
11. and the moon landing represents one of humanity's greatest achievements. this story is often told through the eyes of three courageous astronauts. but what we could not on our television sets that night was the years of painstaking work. done by more than 400,000 americans who made this historic 24,000-mile journey to the stars possible. it truly was a feat of american ingenuity and spirit. at the heart of this effort were the men and women of america's space program. and this anniversary is a great opportunity to say thank you. in maryland, we have the goddard space flight center, which is home to hubble space telescope operations, and goddard served as the main control center for communications during all apollo missions in the 1960's.
marshall space flight center and governor ivey's state of alabama, is one of nasa's largest field centers with 6000 employees. marshall developed rocket engines and tanks for our space shuttles and built sections of the international space station, and it was at marshall where they designed, built, and helped launch the saturn 5 rocket that carried the astronauts of apollo 11 to the moon. we were very fortunate to have with us today the director of the marshall center. her 32-year nasa career includes decades in the space shuttle program. she guided the successful fly out retirement of the shuttle in 2011. she was one of the program's managers for the space launch system program, where she helped lead the development of the most powerful rocket ever built. among the honor she has received the nasa outstanding leadership metal and the presidential rank of meritorious executive award, the highest honor for career federal employees.
so please join me in giving a very warm welcome to jody singer. [applause] dir. singer: good morning. this is a wonderful event to participate in. i am looking forward to telling you a little bit about nasa. on behalf of the national aeronautics and space administration, nasa, i thank you for the opportunity to tell you about my job, tell you about
my passion and talk about what we do to explore, discover, and inspire the next generation. but first, i would like to start with a video about nasa and our plans to return to the moon. so, jordan, if you could roll the video. [video clip] ♪ >> ignition sequence start. >> all engines -- >> we have taken tremendous steps. pres. kennedy: we choose to go to the moon before this decade is out. >> we have achieved the earthshaking, the breathtaking, the groundbreaking. mr. armstrong: one small step for a man. >> and left a mark in the heavens. our successes build one upon the other and amplify what is possible. it is time we take the next great leap. we are building the next chapter of american exploration, returning to the moon to stay, so we can go beyond, to mars, to expand what is possible and
further our understanding. the architecture for these missions is already taking shape. we will go with new systems, bold designs, and a sustainable mission. you can hear it, taste it, touch it, we are going. we are training, testing, pressing our pioneering spirit into every component, defining our resolve with every line of code, and securing our success with every launch. -- with every welcome to partnership. this is not hypothetical, this is not about flags and footprints. this is about sustainable science and feeding forward the advance of the human spirit. because we are the pioneers, the star sailors, the thinkers, the visionaries, the doers.
and because we stand on the shoulders of giants to go farther than humanity has ever been, we will add our names to those of the greatest adventurers in history. every day, every mission, we advance this cause. we are nasa. and after 60 years, we are just getting started. ♪ [end of video clip] dir. singer: so hopefully that woke you up. [applause] dir. singer: so i am blessed to get to work on the nation's program. and i'm very proud. but one of the things i want to make sure you walk away today
with is understanding the investment in space, and it provides direct economic benefit and creates a variety of jobs in each of your states. i hope each of you see some of the goodies that we put in front of you. you have a nasa sticker, nasa pin, and you also have a bumper sticker that hopefully you will display on your bumper, you want to take home with you, and it basically says space runs through exploration. i picked governor herbert of utah. since i happen to be in utah. it is a fun bumper sticker. please enjoy. i want you to know you are part of it. also, i'm a little bit of show and tell, too. hopefully each and everyone of you finds this little thing that says the united states. i can say stars that have fallen all over the united states, and the reason i have that chart is it shows more than 3000 companies across the u.s. over the 50 states, so, yes, your state is actively involved in the exploration program. you can look and see different stars were different sizes. those different sizes to pick the amount of companies that you have, and if you would like to provide the different companies
that support aerospace and our mission, not only human exploration, to science, technology, i will be glad to provide that at some point in time. so, again, you are part of it. now i would like to talk about how nasa is doing. i want to talk about our plans, and how we can use the moon to go further, and we say the moon lights the way. so lying in wait, obviously we have to talk about apollo. those who are old enough, hopefully you remember what you were doing, probably watching it on a black and white tv. you remember maybe what happened. those who weren't alive, i will tell you. hopefully you understand the benefits that it gives. so last week, we celebrated the apollo 11 mission, which captured not only our nation but the world's attention.
it demonstrated the power of america's vision and technology to inspire. it represents the greatest engineering and scientific achievements of our lifetime. many of those benefits we enjoy today come from those missions. can you think about how you would do it today without your computer, without your cell phone, without tang?
[laughter] dir. singer: could you survive a minute without your cell phone? so, returning to the moon will only do more for us to be able to change civilization. that is why nasa is committed to achieving the goals of space exploration, innovation, and discovery. so, the charge. many of you have heard the president and vice president in march challenged us in huntsville, alabama, my home base at marshall space flight center, but he challenged all of nasa and our space center there and said i want our nation to be committed to returning americans to the moon and charged us to accelerate having boots on the moon by 2024 and have a sustained presence by 2028. this accelerated approach brings our nation, our workforce and economic base into play. we are thankful for the bipartisan support that is helping us pave the way for a sustainable return to the moon and taking this on to the next giant leap, which is sending astronauts to mars. so the best accomplish this goal, nasa is going forward to the moon under a program called artemis. the artemis program, if you didn't know, artemis is the twin sister of apollo. the twin sister of apollo, artemis, is the goddess of the moon, so very appropriate. so artemis personifies nasa's path to the moon. so these sustainable steps is we are building on missions the -- that takes a sustainable presence not just going and planting a flag but sustainable presence that will take us forward. so why go to the moon? many of us could pick different reasons. we could talk about strategic leadership, we can talk about
global participation, but one of the things that is passionate to me is talking about the s.t.e.m., the science, technology, engineering and math. we know that apollo spun off many folks that were inspired to go into s.t.e.m., and what we want to do today, if you think about youngsters in the class today, the ones in junior high or grammar school are the next astronauts going to mars. we really want to challenge them to go the route. telling you how we will get there. i will give you a quick summary. if you look at the top of the chart, it talks about how we will be able to go from earth's surface and think about today, we have an international space station 200 miles out. we have vehicles going
commercial to do that. we are trying to go to hundred 50,000 miles out and eventually on about 2 million miles out. so it requires a different vehicle. that vehicle is the space launch system and the orion vehicle, which is capable of taking them there. it is broken into missions, which is a crewed mission, an uncrewed mission in the 21 timeframe and the artemis mission, artemis 2, which is the first time we will have humans on the surface of the moon, not just going to the surface of the moon but going to the south pole for the first time. in addition, there are other assets we have to have been place. a gateway to allow flexibility for safe return, pressurized crew module and the artemis 3 in 2024. in parallel, there are other things we are supporting, with commercial launch vehicles, the systems we have to have in place to go forward, because that will be part of understanding the solar and understanding the moon, understanding the soil, and understanding where we want to land to get the critical information we need. again, really kind of giving it better access, that is, a parallel path to success, not an "or," it's an "and," the ability
to launch crew on the orion and sls and the ability to launch cargo on commercial crew. so it truly is an "and." i would love, i get to take this rocket home with me. i will tell you, this is the space launch system. it is built by contractors all over the united states, from utah to the motors to the engines. you think about california, you think about all over the place, as well as colorado, you name it, and it is over 3000 employees involved, excuse me, 3000 companies that are involved over the 50 states. it truly is a national program that gives over 60,000 jobs, so it truly is a national vehicle. the success of artemis will provide a sustainable presence in space, but what else needs to be sustainable? i will tell you, not only having the largest vehicle ever built but also takes you on a mission but also having skills to build
it and all the things we need. it is more than an economic benefit but inspiration and investments that we have a big investment is in our workforce. the workforce nasa is passionate about, as the chart says, inspire, innovate, explore. we promote education. we have a large component of what we do, and i personally go out and talk to young folks and encourage them to follow s.t.e.m., and it is critical we hit them at an early age. enhancing education opportunities, internship programs, pathways, cooperative programs, engaging k-12, examples include in the right-hand corner, where we have a rover, you have teams that come together from all over the united states and the world to be able to compete in these competitions. they have to put together these machines, they have to be able to operate it, and we put them through obstacles just like they are on the terrain of the moon and mars. it is 18 building and character-building exercise, and we have folks that volunteer.
also we have participation where we look at new technologies, new technologies in each of your states, that we are participating with you in and that includes advanced manufacturing, material processing, advanced things we have to have where life systems get involved, very critical. we promote these engagements and it results in spinoffs. did you know that more than 1800 recorded spinoffs come from nasa and the participation that we have with many of your contractors and communities? so the artemis program will continue what apollo did, what shuttle did and continue to have the spinoffs that include examples of advanced manufacturing where you have to have parts that are made in half
the time and have to still perform in the space environments and withstand it. it is amazing, that ability. i will tell you in closing the benefits from exploration have a significant impact, and we will see many more as we explore the future. the future is so bright, it is unimaginable the things, things we knew before, we can't imagine what we know today and what we will know in the future. things we will be doing 50 years from now when i'm speaking at a governors convention. it will be something. i may be in a wheelchair but we will see. they will prop me up, but do keep in mind, all seriousness, every dollar invested in space doesn't go to space, it stays here on earth. it helps communities grow, helps economic benefit, gives inspiration, it gives academia a place to definitely work and partner together. apollo missions were what was good for space, good for the united states, and it's even more true today. just like apollo, we expect artemis investment to pay off, dividends on our economy.
result in new and game-changing activities, and definitely to be an inspiration to the future generations. i love what i do, i encourage everybody participate in it. we have a tremendous challenge, i won't tell you, cheating gravity and being part of space exploration is not challenging. we learn something every day, because we are doing something that hasn't been done before, we are doing it in a different way. and challenging a diversity team to be able to do that too. we have a tremendous challenge ahead. the payoffs and benefits are wonderful. today, we must decide as a nation. if you want to continue our legacy of american preeminence, in technology, and science and exploration, or do we want to take a backseat and watch as other nations define our future and define where we can be? i don't know about you, but i can tell you, just like the chart says, let's go. the time is now, i am ready to go, i'm ready to lead, and thank you for your support. let's go launch. [applause] dir. singer: thank you, so much. i know we are trying to adhere to schedule.
i work for nasa, so we have to launch and land on time. but it is up to you, any questions, or anything i would be willing to entertain, or if not, during a break, i will be around and i would love to do that, too. gov. bullock: i think we have time, if anyone has questions? governor herbert? gov. herbert: thank you for the presentation. i have lived long enough to watch the apollo landing and in the beginning, i heard president kennedy saying we are going to go to the moon. charge us all up. tell me on the fiscal side of it, because washington doesn't seem to have any way to balance their budget now. is this going to be an added problem? how we are going to pay for it? and how it is going to cost -- buzz aldrin wants to go to mars as soon as we can. what is the cost of this going to be? dir. singer: from the budget we have today, it is critical, the bipartisan support makes a huge difference, and the ability to
have sustained funding makes a difference for us to have a sustainable path of being able to get there. nasa's budget is somewhere in the $21 million, and that is only a fourth of a percentage point of the national budget. so we do a lot with a little, but we do know every dime count, so i will tell you the budget we get, we appreciate. we put it to definite use. we are very conscious of spending the dollars. it does matter to have the same process, because not only does that sustained funding make a difference for our large companies, it also makes a difference for the vendors, because the vendors also need in each one of your states needs that sustained funding to keep going, to keep the technology
going and for us to have boots on the moon by 2024. gov. herbert: there is also an economic benefit we received from the space program. we joke best night about tang. i know we joked about that last night. dir. singer: [laughs] i picked that up from you last night. gov. herbert: there are a lot of things we enjoy today that came out of the development of the space program. is there any economic estimate of what that spun off to be for us for our economy? dir. singer: i know we have over 1800 spinoffs. i don't in front of me have the exact dollar value. there is spinoffs we can talk about and then intangible benefits like we talked about, the use of your cell phone to -- phone, help in medical activities, think about things even northrop grumman in your state, which has talked about the ability to work with landmines, get rid of those, the things you see in a safety airbag to the medical as well as medical equipment that is used, but i would be glad to be able to get that information and give you specifics. that would be great because it
really does, the spinoff does make a difference. gov. bullock: one last question, governor ducey. gov. ducey: great presentation. i am a big nasa fan. it is my first television memory, that moon landing. can you speak a little bit to governor herbert's question regarding where we are fiscally as a nation? i certainly think this can be a wonderful investment, you mentioned sustainability, exploration. pioneering. can you touch on the national defense aspect of it? dir. singer: from a nasa perspective, i will tell you, having national defense and our ability to safely launch and have the ability to have world peace in a global environment is a top priority of nasa. from talking about the defense, that would not be my area, that would be the defense area. i would tell you we do find synergies for the defense, because of our supplier base. there are many suppliers that support defense activities that are the vendors and suppliers we work with at nasa so the ability, we look every day to find synergy not only in
technology but the business spaces and the communities we can support. gov. ducey: and the relationship with the department of defense, or the coordination with defense? dir. singer: the relationship, we definitely have two different swim lanes. ours is definitely exploration and discovery, where the defense is defense, but there is definitely synergies you can find from the technologies and how we work together to try to do what the common goal is particularly with our vendors. gov. ducey: thank you. gov. bullock: please join me again in thanking ms. jody singer. [applause] gov. bullock: and now we will immediately go into our first plenary of the morning driving the conversation, safer and smarter roadways led by governor gretchen whitmer and governor jared polis. gov. whitmer: good morning, everyone. i am pleased to host with governor polis this presentation
on improving the safety of our roadways, which will highlight strategies to address traffic fatalities, improving impaired and distracted driving policies, support for advanced transportation technologies and investments in infrastructure, to improve safety for all road users. despite several years of an improved safety on our roadways, traffic safety remains an issue of concern for every one of us governors. as nearly as 40,000 people are killed in motor vehicle crashes annually. 94% of those crashes are caused by human error, and a significant portion involves some form of impairment, drug, or drunk driving. there are other causes that contribute to traffic related fatalities and injuries, including distracted driving. each day, approximately 9 people in the united states are killed, end 1000 are injured in crashes that involve a distracted driver. with 22 new governors, now is an important time to recommit to addressing issues of impairment. some of the most important levers that can be used to create opportunities and partnerships to reduce the number of traffic related injuries and fatalities.
in my state, in the state of michigan, we have taken steps to work collaboratively across disciplines with public safety, public health, and transportation agencies. with private partners and organizations and foundations like in my state, the keifer foundation, which was established by steve keefer after his son was killed by a distracted driver a few years ago. efforts to bring awareness to traffic safety and reduce the number of traffic deaths make all our roads safer and families
safer. today we are going to hear from a group of great experts. we have dr. grant baldwin here at the panel. he is the director of the division of unintentional injury prevention at the center for disease control and prevention, mr. brian barnard, senior advisor to the secretary of the u.s. department of transportation, and helen witty, the national president of mothers against drunk driving. our important federal partners will give us perspective as we have an important conversation how we decrease fatalities and serious injuries, but before we go on to our speakers, i would like to invite governor polis to share his thoughts on the importance of this issue, and some of the things he has been able to work on in colorado. gov. polis: thank you. i am excited to be part of this conversation. it's a very important one. over 50 years ago, in 1966, our nation faced a record number of traffic deaths and fatalities. it was governors at the nga meeting that identified traffic safety as a priority and joined with local leaders to improve
safety. 50 years later traffic deaths again are one of the leading causes of death nationally and just as governors did then, today we recognize how safety impacts our state and the lives of our citizens. tragically cleaning 40,000 lives each year, traffic crashes impose a large financial and economic toll in our states. in 2016, the stated cost of -- the estimated cost of motor vehicle deaths and injuries and property damage was $432 billion. that includes lost wages, medical expenses, employer cost, property damage, a holistic look at all of the costs associated with traffic accidents. of course, most tragically traffic fatalities and serious injuries leave a long-term impact on loved ones, on families, on friends, kids, neighbors, colleagues, the
broader community. as governors, we have an opportunity to directly impact policy levers that can reduce fatalities and injuries on our roadways. it's not just an issue for civilians, but it is also an issue for law enforcement and our department of transportation workforce. i have been in office six months, and i have already attended two funerals of state troopers who were killed when they were struck by vehicles, and we lost two department of transportation workers. in colorado, we are taking commonsense measures like clearer stripes on roads, building better shoulders and passing lanes in rural areas, new education programs to reduce impaired driving, new laws to prevent passing of snowplows. the most importantly we are talking about creating a culture of safety, culture of saved driving behavior, through an extensive outreach program through the department of transportation called the whole
system, whole safety. for this session, we hope to continue this conversation that we began over 50 years ago about how states can leverage efforts and advancements made over the last several decades to truly improve safety on our roads. gov. whitmer: thank you, governor polis. i want to extend a warm welcome to our guests here and thank you for participating in this, hoping perhaps each of you will share some opening comments with us on the issue. dr. baldwin, if you kick us off, that would be great. dr. baldwin: thanks. it is really an honor and privilege to be here.
in my five minutes, i want to tell you a little more about what we know in terms of burden and risk factors. i will talk about what we can do about it, including a vision for the future, and finally i will talk about what cdc specifically is doing. regarding that 40,000 death for every single that there's eight people injured and 99 people who are treated and released from emergency department. you heard about the economic costs and how staggering they are. there is real gains for us to make. some of the risk factors we talked about over the course of the hour are consistent over time. i will mention three of them. restraint, speed, and alcohol, and now drugs. in terms of restraint we seen a huge increase since the early 1980's. it has gone up from 10%, 90% of our fellow americans are buckling up, that leaves 27.5 million people who aren't buckled up. we know upwards of 50% of people who die in car crashes were not restrained at the time of the crash.
alcohol continues to be involved in one-third of all traffic fatalities, we know from data from cdc, we know there are 121 million episodes of self-reported alcohol impaired driving annually, less than 1 million people arrested for dui, 70% of people who die in alcohol impaired driving related crash had a bac level above .15. in terms of speed, 50% of us report driving over 15 miles an hour faster on our highways and over 10 miles an hour faster on our city streets than the posted speed limit, and we know that just a 5% reduction in speed can reduce crashes by upwards of 30%. so what do we do about it? nga as part of a larger initiative that i suspect brian may talk about called road to zero. the vision for this program is fairly simple. get to zero traffic fatalities in the next 30 years. what undergirds that vision is these two core principles, it is unacceptable to lose a fellow american on a u.s. road and recognition that we are all human, we make mistakes so we need roads and cars and rules that govern our driving behavior
that keep us safe at every turn. there is real power and promise and one of the core tenets is to double down on evidence-based intervention and so some of those include like restraint, high visibility reinforcement, media campaigns to increase seatbelt use, and making sure kids up to age five, after age five are restrained in an age-appropriate booster seat, as a specific example. alcohol, we can talk about sobriety checkpoints, ignition interlocks, improved use of drug recognition experts, and potentially lowering the bac standard, which was done here in the great state of utah. finally in speed, obviously there's enforcement capacity, automated speed cameras that can be helpful as well as other traffic measures, roundabouts and whatnot that can make a big difference in terms of reducing speed. so in my remaining time, i will tell you a couple of things about what cdc is doing. we have a program called motor vehicle prioritizing intervention and cost calculator for states. what you do as a governor is your state highway safety office has a budget, they enter that budget into this program, and it looks and identifies what interventions, if stood up, could save the most lives and over -- avert the most cost if implemented in full-scale. it is a program nga has helped support over time. we have grown and evolved. it is much easier to use. i encourage you to look at it,
and i would be happy to provide the links to that. and finally, this is something we will be releasing later this year. a program called lincs, or linking information for non-fatal crash surveillance. we exist in a sophisticated environment where we have multiple data streams that can be connected from health data to police crash report data to dmv data. we are china think creatively about how to do that work, and we are releasing a guide to do that work more robustly. i think that is my time. i will i guess turn it over to brian but eager to participate in the conversation for the next hour, so thank you so much. m. barnard: good morning, everybody. i will speak to you about the national highway traffic safety
administration for us at d.o.t. our mission is to save lives, prevent injuries and reduce the economic cost associated with roadway crashes on the nation's highways. we do that through three main buckets. we conduct vehicle research, vehicle safety research, and that includes crash testing and the 5-star safety rating you're probably familiar with when you buy a new car, the end program. we also do research into different safety measures that are incorporated into vehicles, and you've seen a lot of new technology come onto the market in the last few years that we have been doing a lot of research into proving out and helping the development of. secondly, we do behavioral research, so we do research into motorist behavior, distracted driving, impaired driving, speeding and occupant
protection, like seatbelts. to make sure everyone using the roadways is buckling up, obeying the traffic laws in states and driving sober and not distracted. our third bucket is the partnership with the state, and that is where you can help. we give out over two-thirds of our budget every year to the states, that is over $600 million some of that is formula funds the go to support your highway safety activities in the state that you generate a highway safety plan in partnership with highway safety office, and another part of that is instant grants which are law based. if your legislature passes certain laws on impaired driving, distracted driving, occupant protection, you will get additional grant money to use at the state level. finally i want to talk about our communications and high visibility enforcement campaign. we conduct research into developing nationwide campaigns. i'm sure you are familiar with
most of them. click it or ticket has been around for a long time. we also have drive sober or get pulled over. and actually this last winter, we released a brand-new campaign, which is, if you feel different, you drive different. drive high, get a dui, which is targeting from all the anecdotal evidence we have seen, increase in drug impaired driving. i'm looking forward to the conversation and answering any questions you might have today. thank you. ms. witty: thank you and good morning. it is an honor to be here. thank you to the nga for having us at the table, and thank you, governors, for making traffic safety a priority. it is an honor to sit next to these two experts. more americans have died in car crashes in the last 19 years than in both world wars, according to a story by the "washington post" just this week. as national president of mothers against drunk driving, i
represent hundreds of thousands of victims of drunk driving crashes, and despite decades of progress, we are still facing drunk driving deaths that are up 11,000, almost 11,000 every year, drunk driving, drunk driving is still the number one cause of death on our roads. each death is preventable, and it causes a ripple effect across families and across our nation. and i know that pain, because on june 1, 2000, a sunny afternoon, my 16-year-old daughter went rollerblading.
"don't worry, mom, i will stay on the bike path. i will be right back." she reached the end of our driveway, flipped around backwards, blew me a kiss, and that was the last time i saw her. her 13-year-old brother was on -- was putting on his rollerblades to go with her, and she said "mom, keep him home. i want to go fast." she was my first born, she put me through my mom paces. my husband and i had our dream family. they had the perfect names, john and john and helen and helen marie. she was helen marie because i didn't want to be old helen or big helen. that was where we were. a teenager, impaired on alcohol and marijuana, ended our dream.
my daughter looked up and saw a car spinning on that bike path, and there was nothing she could do but die. that is what we want to stop. i can't even begin to explain what those first years of deep, dark grief were like. a funeral for 16-year-old. packing up her things. a husband who identified her at the crash site when he went looking for her, because she didn't come home. nobody should have to do that. nobody. and that is why i am so grateful for your emphasis on this vicious crime. thank you.
we are working hard, because, you know what? madd was there for me. i can't tell you about those first few years, but madd was there. they gave me a platform, they educated me. i'm standing here on that platform, because i understand, i hear the stories across the nation in all our states, what happens to families. in 2006, madd promoting a -- promoted a campaign to eliminate drunk driving. the very first part of that is law enforcement, as you all recommended. we have got to support law enforcement. they are the number one people out there right now on our roads that are protecting us, and it is dangerous work, dangerous work. that is our number one. we are also deeply concerned, because drunk driving arrests have gone down, and as they have gone down, the deaths have gone up. so we need to support those law enforcement officers that are out on our roads.
sometimes their presence alone saves lives, it stops all crime, not just drunk and drugged driving. and as a governor, you can make the difference by making traffic enforcement a priority. second, madd believes that every convicted drunk driver should be -- should have an ignition interlock. we are working hard to pass laws in all the states, we have 33 states now with ignition -- all offender ignition interlock laws, and it is a small breathalyzer that a person who has been convicted of drunk driving, if they start their car, they have to have a breath sample, and it allows them to keep working. taking away their license just doesn't work. up to 75% of people with revoked licenses continue to drive anyway. so it is killing people. 33 states.
new mexico was the first one. and as a governor, you don't have to wait for your state lawmakers to propose these laws, you can propose policies on your own. we have seen this happen. in 2011, governor cuomo in short -- insured -- ensured that counties would have the resources they need for leandra's law. he also worked hard to require ignition interlock for all offenders. in maryland in 2016, governor hogan made it clear that he would support noah's law, when a dui traffic officer was arresting a dui was killed.
thank you, you worked hard. and also have been outspoken to make sure the dmv keeps that up. you worked hard from the day it was proposed until the day you signed it. thank you. and in massachusetts this year, i got to visit governor baker. he had proposed legislation requiring interlocks for all convicted drunk drivers. i had the pleasure to meet with governor baker this year and we hope massachusetts will be the next state that will have all-offender interlock laws. thank you. the third step of our campaign to eliminate drunk driving is technology. technology joining in is going to stop drunk driving. there is a specific technology that requires breath or touch sensors. this is different from ignition interlock. this would be a technology, and brian can really talk on this, it is a passive system. if a person is detected through breath or touch, the car won't start. how about having that as a standard safety feature in all our new cars? and finally, our campaign calls for personal responsibility. talk to everyone in your circle
of influence. we can do this. if you drink, don't drive. if you drive, don't drink. it's a simple equation that we can all get behind. there are so many other opportunities nowadays for getting home safe. let's get everybody home safe so that i don't have to meet any families, or hear anymore heartbreaking stories about senseless deaths. so, on behalf of my daughter, helen marie, and those victims who are not here today, thank you for making this a priority. together with all of us together, we can make this a nation of no more dui victims. thank you. [applause]
>> thanks for those remarks, and, helen, thank you for turning tragedy into a passion and a mission around making sure that others don't have to go through what you went through. let's go to our fellow governors to see if you have any comments or questions or anything going to share about anything going on in your state. governor pritzker. gov. pritzker: first i want to thank the panelists. thank you for your time for coming here to the nga. it means a lot to all of us, and an particularly for those of us who are new governors to have
the opportunity to hear your thoughts, ideas and direction i think is highly educational. and as governor whitmer said, there are 22 new governors, and so this this is a great time for you to renew the effort to focus on traffic safety and smarter roadways. i wanted to go to a question, i'm highly sympathetic with everything that was said about the issues around drunk driving and impaired driving. i have a 16-year-old daughter who's just a new driver and a 14-year-old who will be getting his permit starting sometime soon. and i worry a lot about the peer pressure that goes along with being a teenager and the driving -- some other nodding heads around the room with teenagers. i wanted to go to a different question around the technology that is available today for safer roadways. and in particular this vehicle to everything technology. maybe brian, you could start
with some remarks about this. but there are two standards as i understand that exist out there. nothing has been decided upon which of these standards or vehicles will carry, but it will make driving safer for everybody. i worry because we are going to make substantial investments in illinois in expanding broadband, expanding communication coverage to areas of the state that have never had it before. i want to make sure that we are doing it in a way that feeds into the need for v2x technology. and if we go the wrong weights -- the wrong way, it's going to cost us a lot more than if we figure it out up front.
can you tell us where that cellular technology, wi-fi technology, what is it that we should be thinking about in our states in order to feed into the future of cars? >> sure, that's a great question, i would be happy to answer it. since 1999, the f.c.c. has set aside a certain amount of radius spectrum for intelligence transportation system, i.t. s. and that basically enable dedicated short-range communication, which is fancy wi-fi for cars to communicate with one another through transponders and transmission on the vehicle. there will be able to death they will -- they will be able to communicate with another vehicle in the range, and infrastructure that is connected in the range as well. there's a lot of possibilities there. we are most interested in the safety possibilities because there are plenty of times we
have roadway intersections, collisions where a driver will say, i didn't even see the other guy coming. i had no idea he was there. that technology can really help make a difference in cutting down those traffic crashes. so we're really interested in the safety potential. as to your point about two technologies being there, right now dcrc -- dsrc is the only one that can use that radio spectrum. the fcc is taking a look or has mentioned that they will be taking a look at what might come from that, what other technologies that can use the band as well, that dedicated spectrum. cvx is another one, that one is cellular. so you have fancy wi-fi and cellular. cellular also holds significant potential and we're doing a lot of research to try and prove it out there. we are working with fcc and the department of commerce, ntia, to do phase two of our testing. we are going to do it on a test track and that's going to start later this summer. we're going to do it at aberdeen, at the u.s. army base in maryland. we will do track testing to see how that technology works. we are looking forward to sharing those results with
everybody, probably towards the end of this year. >> can i just follow up with, if the problem with dsrc as i understand it, is we have to put in all new technology. you may have reserve spectrum for a, but that means new equipment and new towers and new coverage where cellular mostly already exists. and this is maintained by the cellular providers and wouldn't cost the state much anyway. i worry about the cost going forward, going one technology route versus the other. >> that's a great point, governor. it's something we've heard from a lot of the states that trying to make those investments in dsrc or v2x. they want to know where the marketplace is going. we are hopeful that the technology may become interoperable in the future but for now the only one that's been proven and is allowed on the spectrum is dsrc. and that is d.c. controlled, that spectrum. we have to work with them. >> thank you.
>> thank you, the panel, and helen. i'm sorry for your loss. thank you for sharing your story. and thank you for the work of madd and the work you have done. you have truly changed the culture of the country, and i know there's much more work left to do, but i am convinced that young people are making better decisions than were made in the past. in arizona, we were able to defeat recreational marijuana in 2016. we do have medical marijuana, and i know these initiatives are spreading across the country. i'm curious to what madd's involvement is. you have made such a difference, mothers against drunk driving, and we have both science and technology to prevent and identify on the alcohol side. i think it's more ambiguous on
the drug side and it concerns me. i am just curious as, first with helen, but what the rest of the panel can tell us how we are going to have safe roads in these situations. helen: thank you, governor. it's a challenge. it's a challenge. my daughter was killed by a alcohol and drug use. use. we knowug that drunk is still the number one killer, drugged driving is coming along. so madd has added that to our mission. we are indeed fighting drug driving. in my state of florida, where i'm from, it is medical marijuana. madd wants to fight against using marijuana and driving. we do not take a stand against marijuana at all, because for some places, it is legal. to me, i wish the science had been definite before this process started.
because the science isn't there yet, but the science that we have shows how dangerous marijuana is, especially for our young people. i went into schools with madd for nine years, and i had students say to me, don't worry, we drive better when we're on marijuana. and what was really stunning, i had parents say to me, don't worry, they aren't drinking alcohol. they are only smoking pot. so this is a huge issue that i think we all are facing, and so madd's out there. poly-drug use, specifically alcohol and marijuana, is more than double the impairment. that's an education piece. thank you very much. i will turn it over to my cbc expert, mr. bernard. >> i'll just add a couple of things. my division also responsible for the response to the overdose
epidemic. as you know, 70,000 americans losing their lives to drug overdoses. two or three of those are open your -- opioid related. we seen a huge increase in meth -- 60% live in recreational marijuana states. the patterns that we are seeing. use is going up, but frequency of use is going up. the potency of the products that are being used is changing, and the modality of use is also changing. smoking is the most common modality of use, but edibles are also on the rise. and the physiology of how thc is metabolized, depending upon the use patterns, they really impact impairment.
we were talking before this session started about the national roadside survey. we do know marijuana or thc is on board. it is the most common drug on board for the last national roadside survey. unfortunately, the ability for officers to detect impairment is largely uneven. i think arizona is the state that has drug recognition experts. the challenge is there is not enough of them and the ability to deploy them frequently as needed is a challenge. unlike alcohol or you have a roadside test that can be done efficiently, that does not exist yet for marijuana. it's an area of activity and research that may be brian can speak to this. i think we are getting closer. the whole issue of impaired driving and polysubstance, as helen pointed out, is very concerning, and should be >> from our perspective, at
dot, we are focusing on research and also getting resources out to law enforcement to make sure they have the tools they need to combat impaired driving. earlier this month, we announced a $2.3 million cooperative agreement award with the international association of chiefs of police to help train law enforcement to become dre at the state level. you will need more than one across the state, obviously, if we can increase the number of trained officers that can successfully identify drug impairment on drivers it's going to make a big difference. hopefully that deterrent effect can reduce the number of impaired drivers on the roadways. >> i know that colorado has been a leader on cannabis reform. our new effort include allowing delivery of marijuana. so we are moving away from the risk of people driving while impaired, by legal delivery to people's homes. we just passed the legislation
enabling around that beginning with medical marijuana and then moving to full regulated sale of marijuana so people can exercise in our state. it is a constitutional right to use marijuana in their home without the risk of them using somewhere else and driving. so we are looking at a wide variety of tactics to decrease that risk. governor herbert. >> thank you. again, a very important and emotional issue. i don't think anybody supports driving while you are impaired. sometimes where we define impaired, though, is where we are having some problems. as some of you know, certainly i hope helen, you know, that utah has reduced a blood alcohol content from 08 to .05, the lowest in the nation. not without controversy. and it's probably too early to say whether we're going to be
successful or what the outcome of that will be. but at least our duis are down right now so maybe it's having an impact. it appears more people are getting on board with the phrase you used, if you're going to drink don't drive. heineken beer, jackie stewart is their spokesperson, the famous racecar driver, does a commercial on that where he says, if you are going to drive, don't drink, period. that's maybe a cultural change that we need to address. i am curious to know if any other states are thinking of reducing their blood alcohol content from .08 to .05 or lower. in europe, some countries have it there or lower. some have zero. around the world, that certainly is a trend that seems to be taking place. also as we are entering the age of the jetsons, who knows what's going to happen over the next generation? unmanned vehicles, i came from the paris air show and saw
drones that are not only going to be carrying packages but eventually people, like cabs, and we will have streets in the sky. what's going to take place there and how will that help us? when we see the statistic that 94% of our crashes are human error, i guess the question to you is, what can we do in all the different arenas to reduce human error? for example, i'm just totally sick and tired of people driving down the road talking on your cell phone. looking in the mirror, fixing their hair, eating a hamburger. the distracted driving is a big issue i think for us. we're trying to work with our legislature to pass a law on that, but we're having some resistance, surprisingly so. so, in the age of the jetsons, how will we eliminate human error? dr. baldwin: i appreciate your comment about .05.
cdc has funded some work to look at what if every state had .05, what would be the impact? 600-1200 lives, just shy of 50,000 injuries and have a direct cost benefit of $34 million. these are real numbers, real lives, real people named helen marie whose lives would be saved if every state had .05. just to put the benefit in context from cdc-supported work. ms. witty: yes, and i'll be the emotional part. thank you. thank you for .05. impairment is impairment, and .05 is impairment. the data is there now. so it is, it would be wonderful. madd is happy to support any state that wants to bring forward .05. i was in michigan just recently.
also in new york and california. so we are hoping that this will happen, but thank you for your leadership, governor, and let's get this conversation rolling. thank you. dr. baldwin: governor, i can add on the distracted driving front, one of the best things that you and your fellow governors can do is to support your law enforcement high visibility enforcement campaigns on that. we have some safety materials we have some safety materials that are all available for free, trafficsafetymarketing.gov. support your law enforcement when they are making stops for folks who are driving on their cell phones. it is really important to show that you are prioritizing it at the state level. all of those materials, if you can share them on social media, or weave them into your statements and press releases, that would go a long ways as well. thank you. gov. lee: i have a question for you about those information approaches you take in public
campaigns and we're seriously trying to improve safety. we just passed a hands-free law this year. we are looking at other ways to do so. but you talk what if you drive different, if you drive differently or click it and ticket. do you have substantive data that shows how states invest in those kinds of public relations campaigns in partnership with dot that actually shows returns for those, that they seem like a good idea? you talked about anecdotal stories around the return on that, but i would kind of like to know data. dr. baldwin: that's a great question, governor. so, here's how it works. congress gives us about $30 million every year to partner with the states to help fund the overtime for law enforcement to go out there three different
times a year to focus on click it or ticket and to focus on impaired driving. so we put out the messaging. we do all the safety campaigns and materials. at the state level, you have law enforcement go out there into - and do the high visibility enforcement because you need both sides of it. you need the public education and awareness, and you need the enforcement, the visible presence of law enforcement. the best part of that is it does make an impact. the problem is, from the data that we have seen, it is an impact only during those times that we have an increased enforcement presence. once that enforcement goes down, you see an increase again in the prevalence of that bad driving behavior. i would be happy to pass that along to your office. gov. burgum: if a plane crashes on the other side of the world, it's front-page news in america for days and weeks. and as was pointed out by the
panel, we are killing a plane crash a day, day in and day out. we've been doing that for decades. brian, when you're talking to road to do, and had a 30 year time horizon, with the technology that's coming, i guess i'm questioning, why 30 years? why that time horizon? then also to the whole panel, a cultural issue, because if we have had one death in america in commercial aviation in the last nine years, just one, and that was the individual who was sitting by the window when the part flew through the window, when we have autonomous vehicles represent an opportunity to be better than humans, because if 94% of this is caused by human error, we have to be better than humans. yet we we're holding autonomous to standard of perfection, where if there's a single death, then
there is a hue and cry to get all the autonomous vehicles off the road. but if autonomous vehicles only killed half as many people humans, i think we should all be cheering for autonomous vehicles because we would save 20,000 lives a year. but for those of you who work in this field, just share with me your perspective on both autonomy and the time perspective on why 30 years on road to zero versus something shorter. dr. baldwin: sure. so, you're asking one of the toughest questions that we are grappling with right now. how do you provide safety metrics for deployment of automated vehicles? a lot of people would say it needs to be at least as safe as a human driver before it can go on the roadways. we have over 37,000 fatalities on the roadways right now. do we think human drivers should really be that standard? i think that's debatable. but we are looking at how we can prove these out and how we can make sure that when they are
deployed they are done safely. right now there's nothing on the roadways that is fully autonomous. there are some test vehicles that are under research and development, but they all require a human safety operator who is in the vehicle or in very close proximity. when it goes back to your other question of why a 30 year time horizon, even if these vehicles were ready to go today, you would still have, someone mentioned it earlier, the lifespan of the vehicle right now for an average car, a new car is 12 years. so you would have 12 years before the turnover of the fleet occurs, and you would have more and more of those automated vehicles on the roadways. anything we can do to make a dent in the number of overall fatalities is important, but it will take some time. in the interim, we are focused on improving behavior to make sure motorists are driving more safely. dr. baldwin: i would just add that are part of road to zero, there are three core components to road to zero.
doubling down on the proven interventions the technology, , autonomous vehicle technology that exists is a second pillar, the third is looking for ways to change the culture around safety. i mention that statistic from the early 1980s around seatbelt use rates. the social norm for a seatbelt use has changed in this country. i think more broadly as we think about a safety culture, we need to own up to and lean in on the importance of safety. because comparative, the u.s. compared to other high income countries, we have nearly double the crash rate of other high income countries. the country with the best rate is a quarter of the rate that we have here in the united states. again, there's existing both evidence-based interventions and rules that govern how we all drive that can lower the rate quite substantially. ms. witty: and i would like to add on the technology part,
while autonomous vehicles are decades away, we have the technology with the sensors. that is not decades away, that is years away. that would be if a person gets in the car, it simply won't start through breath. and touch sensors. and we need to get that commercialized and in the fleet in the next few years rather than decades. so that gives me hope. gov. hogan: first of all, i want to thank the governors for polis, ford bringing this to the discussion. i think this one of the most informative discussions that we have had. and want to thank our panelists for being here and for sharing so much. helen, i especially want to thank you for sharing your story and your commitment to madd. this is i think a discussion we are all grappling with, which is why there is so much interest in
dialogue. in maryland as you mentioned, helen, we passed noah's law where we required ignition locks for the very first offense. we also pushed for tougher mandatory sentences for repeat offenders because many of these folks continue to repeat. we have with us our secretary of transportation and our director of state highway administration. they been working on a really innovative program called maryland towards zero deaths. tzd. it is all encompassing. we have 500 people die on our roads last year. and we talked about some of these issues, but it is truly a comprehensive look. it's impaired driving. it's distracted driving, which also is a big killer. aggressive driving prevention, occupant protection. highway infrastructure and how we go about making our roadways more saved. more safe. and pedestrian and bicycle safety. i guess the question, somebody said, i think it was governor herbert, that nobody is against impaired driving, which should
be true. but we actually had difficulty passing tougher sentences on impaired driving. i guess the question for some of the governors and for you, what do we do about trying to get some states and some of our legislatures to take this issue more seriously? because we are killing more people than both world wars and we have got to do something about it. ms. witty: thank you, governor. you know where the heartbreak is? sometimes it takes personal involvement. and do you know where personal involvement is? it can happen to anyone at anytime, boom, just like that. and so i believe our stories are what unite us. but i would bet our experts also have a story that -- i wish i could make this personal for everyone before it comes to your front yard.
>> let me add, you raised, governor hogan, ignition locks. 35,000 ignition locks through 2017 at the end of year. 384000 on the vehicle. ignition interlocks installed in a vehicle reduce recidivism by upwards of 65%. they are very, very effective but you mention a repeat offender and that resonates with me. there's an innovative work happening in places like florida, where they are coupling ignition interlock with substance abuse treatment programs, and they have shown 30% reduction in repeat offense after that. so it's not just stopping people who have alcohol addiction from getting on our roads but putting
them on a path to long-term recovery. i think that's a powerful model as well. >> i can also add we have grants. we have federal grants that go out to the states the pass laws that enable ignition interlock for first-time convicted offenders. there's a lot of requirements that go into it and the political will has to be there, but we have federal grants that will help at the state level if the state enacts laws that qualify. so i am more than happy to provide information on those, on occupant protection impaired driving and ignition interlock. gov. whitmer: governor polis had to leave and i don't see any other governors looking to ask questions, so i have a few questions, if you could shed some light on them. data is becoming so much more and more critical and transportation design and confronting any sort of
decisions around transportation and a road safety. i'm curious if you had experiences or have advice for states in terms of how we are using data and how we should be collecting or analyzing data that we can prevent fatalities relating to impaired driving in particular. ms. witty: one of the things i've learned in my work with madd is that the data for drunk driving arrests are not happening. they are not being counted. so that would be a place to start, is to make it all the same type of data collection so that we know in each state and across states. one of the things i faced early on was somebody getting at a dui in one state and then that's not communicated to the state next door. so that could save a lot of people because this person over here in this state is not known. dr. baldwin: i will just add, the data that comes out of the
fatality analysis reporting system (fars) that's run by nhtsa is on the toxicology of what drugs are on board in terms of the fatal crash are not great. as part of our response to opioid overdose epidemic we are funding a program with a reporting system, and part of that is to support medical examiners and coroners to catalog all the drugs on board at the time of death and a much more complete picture. that data is essential for us moving forward. one thing a colleague of mine raised that is quite interesting is if an arresting officer has evidence that there was alcohol impairment, that they stopped from doing any subsequent testing about other drugs that may be involved because they have reached the threshold for making that arrest. so there's huge gaps. as i mentioned in my opening remarks, there's opportunities
to connect data across multiple platforms, including from the health outcomes side, which is within the cdc purview, with the law enforcement side and other aspects of data, including data that the vehicles we all drive today are very sophisticated in the data the vehicle telemetry that exists. so there is some really real opportunities there. >> and to dr. baldwin's point, on the data we found, to the point earlier about polysubstance use, we found we only were allowing for states to put in three different drugs on the fars submission for the toxicology collection. so as part of our overhaul of the data collection, we added subsequent fields so we can capture all of the different drugs that are in the bloodstream of anybody who is actually arrested and convicted.
gov. whitmer: well, i simply want to thank all of you for being a part of this discussion today. i think it's been incredibly helpful and certainly a lot of my governors i know participated which shows how we are all grappling with trying to make our roadways safer. we appreciate the work you are doing in each of your disciplines, and i think one of the most amazing things i've ever seen is a parent who turns grief into a cause to protect other people. so just appreciate your sharing your story and the work you are doing. but for each of you, you've added to this thoughtful conversation i think, inspired a lot of us to go back and get to work on improving some of the systems in our home state. thank you all very much. [applause] >> thank you, governor whitmer. that concludes our morning session. [gavel] [inaudible conversations]
evening try to open -- override president trump's veto of writing the sale of arms. of reddit temps are expected to fall short after initial resolutions of disapproval passed with 51 and 53 votes, well short of 67 votes needed to override a veto. the president vetoed three resolutions of disapproval on wednesday. was new ski is senior stennett staff writer. on monday the senate begins a is the week before recess. the chamber holding three votes monday on whether to override the president vetoes, resolutions blocking u.s. arms sales to saudi arabia. why did the president veto those resolutions? believed thatnt this is generally speaking and undue interference by congress in his conduct of foreign