tv Washington Journal Anna Giaritelli CSPAN August 22, 2019 1:23pm-1:36pm EDT
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could you explain this proposal from the trump administration and how it changes from the current policy? anna: yeah, back in 2015, a judge of the central district of california ruled in the florez settlement that children in ice custody, and any person with a child, could not be held in nice custody more than 20 days. this is under the obama administration, and at the time, you had families going through dhaka, seeking asylum, who were being held 45 days, sometimes 90 in hand wase issue you cannot just indefinitely detain a family. now, what we have is any family weather they present at a port and does not have documents or illegally crosses and says i have a credible fear of
returning to my hung country -- home country will be taken into border patrol custody, border patrol will process them, supposedly in 27 -- 72 hours, and hand them over to i.c.e. ice will decide this person gets deported or we will hold onto them. i.c.e. can only hold that family 20 days and they only have so much room to house families. the issue we have today is tens of thousands of families coming over the border every month. with i.c.e. unable to hold people 20 days, they are releasing people. i wrote a story last month saying since december, i.c.e. has released 218,000 people into the u.s. who arrived at the border with a family member. >> the headlines all use the word "indefinitely." if this proposal comes about, what is a realistic number to that term?
[laughter] anna: that is the thing we don't know yet, how long can people actually be held. is the trump administration going to surge immigration judges and asylum officers and other necessary officials down to the border, uscis, can get through all of these cases? you have 900,000 cases waiting to be decided in the system. anyone coming over today and claiming asylum is at the bottom of that list. we also don't know where people are going to be held. remember, these i.c.e. facilities are completely overwhelmed. they do not keep single adults in the same places they will keep me and my child, obviously. the facilities, to pick the, where they would hold someone where they could within 20 days, and even up to 20 days for
family, they are not like border patrol stations. they have amenities. they are meant for longer-term -- i don't want to say detention, but it is detention. these are the questions we don't know yet and the interesting thing is julian castro said we searching judges asylum officers down to the border. you could see how there might be away way for democrats and republicans to work together on this. what is scaring them is the word indefinitely. how long is this actually going to take? i am sure there will be cases and exceptions where you see someone was held a very long period of time because you see that even with border patrol. people fall through the loophole. generally speaking, the trump administration is doing this so
people don't feel like they can come in, apply for asylum, and take years to hear their case and whether they show up to court or not, remain in the u.s. indefinitely after that. the trump administration, in their arguments to put this proposal out, one of the ideas was to keep families together in reaction to criticisms it received over the treatment two children? -- to children? exactly. that has been there point, it is going to keep children safe and families together. you remember during the zero-tolerance policy last spring, families came over together even seeking asylum, the parent would be referred for prosecution, therefore separating the two. right now, any family released from ice custody is together, so it is a very technical thing the administration is trying to play the high road on -- it is saying
if somebody wants to apply for asylum, they should keep the parent in custody or someone together -- it is a very technical thing. but, at the end of the day, they are right, families will stay together, i think, is a better way to saying -- as opposed to they would not stay together. it was stay together anyway, but it is a matter whether they would sit together and be released into the country or held in custody. host: walk us through the timeline. when does this proposal become policy? guest: they announced it yesterday and they have had about four years, the government in general, the obama and trump administration, to put forward a final rule and that is what we have been waiting on. dhs has been working on this policy for the past two plus years, and the reason they have gone about it this way is
congress has not gone about a legislative fix. you have heard plenty of lawmakers in the white house saying congress needs to deal with this legislatively. we don't want our hands on it. the they have the authority toe authority to put his regulation out there because a judge ordered in 2015. blurry,line is still one of those other things we are not totally sure of yet. e yet. certainly, it will start having a very quick effect. it looks like it will be rolled out soon. giaritelli covers homeland security, telling us about this proposal from the trump administration when it comes to the >> live now on c-span, the national press club, a news conference about to begin about state efforts to stop unwanted robocalls.
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