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watch the interview sunday at 10:00 and 6:00 eastern on c-span. >> c-span's campaign 2020 coverage continues now with remarks from democratic president of candidate steve bullock. he spoke at a politics and eggs breakfast in new hampshire. this is an hour. breakfast in new hampshire. >> good morning, everyone. good morning, everyone. want to welcome you all to another great segment of politics and eggs at a little bit different location. i am glad you all came here.
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finally we found our way here. it is a great location for our series. we will be moving around the state as we can. banners ofhave our our sponsors up. different rooms, says as you will see on your tables, you will see the list of our sponsors and the list here. without them, we cannot do this great series that has taken place for so many years and inrted by our own fred coker 1997. [applause]
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i know that many of you are saying the same thing as the man with perfect attendance, jim brett, i've never gone to any event he was supposed to be that and was not at. every new england council event, he is always there. today he is unfortunately at a funeral. he is not here today, so larry will do the q&a part. we have been training him on this for days on end. [laughter] he is very good. next week we are back at the institute of politics. a whole series of things coming up in the future. very excited. we have a very special governor who has come quite a long way this morning. governor steve bullock, montana's former attorney general and was elected montana's 24th governor in 2012. just to put that into perspective, our own governor sununu is the 82nd governor and he is the 24th of montana. just a little bit different. bullock, 53 years old,
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is a proven leader who has successfully brought people together to get things done in the state of montana. he has spent his career fighting on behalf of workers, students and families. to makenor, works montana stronger for future generations, ensuring his three children are able to enjoy the same opportunities afforded to all of us who grew up there. working with republican legislatures, the expanded medicaid passed in earned income , tax credit, established the pre-k, andt public passed one of the most aggressive anti-dark money bills in the country. he was the first governor in the country to protect net neutrality through executive order, and every day steve heads to work at the capital, committed to ensuring that montana remains the second best state in the nation to live, work, and raise a family.
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[laughter] without further ado, governor bullock. [laughter] -- [applause] governor bullock: i appreciate the opportunity to be here, you didn't note that you can fit 14.7 new hampshires in the state of montana. there is a reason why we only have 24 governors, because we serve a full term which would be four years, not every two years. i did something last night and somebody said congress, when they set it up, the thought was it would always grow with population, so isn't it time we have more members of the house. the whole crowd in new hampshire was just like, no, do not do that, whatever you do. it is great to be here. i will talk about where i think things are and where this world is and really do look forward to answering any questions and
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engaging in a conversation with you. from my perspective, in so many respects, for the state of the country and its standing in the world, what we are going to pass on to the xt generation, i think it is important to make donald trump a one term president. [applause] to me, it really is more about just beating him. it is soundly rejecting this behavior that he is normalizing. think about when you set this up in 1995. what the norms were and what we expected out of a president and an overall system. now we are at a time of lies, misstatements, and abuse of power dividing this nation by race, gender, geography, nationality. no exaggeration to say we now expect more out of our preschoolers than we do the president of the united states.
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it is more than that. trying tol around, say how do we get to this point and how do we fix it, we have to recognize there a lot of people in this country working harder and making less. real termsicans in have not had a pay increase in 40 years. if you think about us raised in the early 70's, at that time 90% of 30-year-olds were doing better than their parents. today it is only two thirds of half. the counties lost businesses over the last decade. folks saying i shouldn't have to leave my church or school or community to make a decent living. when the economy is not working, they look to the political system for relief. it is captured by dark money and outside spending. there is a little case called citizens united i will talk about. before that case 2% of all , outside spending was from groups that didn't disclose where the donors came from. these midterms, it was over
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half. you see regulations being gutted because that is what the donors are asking for. there should not be any surprise that folks are frustrated and anxious and angry. instead of doing something about it, this president has poured gasoline on that fire. we are more divided than any ,ime, certainly, as a nation more divided than any time in my lifetime. forget about cable news or twitter, think about conversations throughout thanksgiving dinner. think about conversations at the coffee hall or where you are grabbing a beer. politics has divided our community and our country. that is not the promise of this country. we are better than that. background briefly, race and single-parent household. paycheck-to-paycheck. i only knew there was a governor house in town because i deliver newspaper. i made it four blocks in life from where i began. i worked my way through college and borrowed my way through law
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school. i will never forget the day that my wife and i paid off what would be $175,000 in today's terms and debt. it caused challenges, but when you go from delivering newspapers to the governor's house as a kid, you had that shot at the american dream. for far too many people, that no longer exists and for far too many it never has. i do think this is election about beating donald trump, but it is about making people believe the economy and the political system can work for us, can make a difference on actually having that fair shot at a better life. the has always been baseline promise and hope of this country. first things first. in many respects, this is a single issue election. that is beating donald trump. in 2016i was the only democrat in the country to win in a state where trump won.
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he took montana by 20. i won by four. 25% to 30% of my voters voted for donald trump. the path to victory doesn't just run through the coasts and the urban areas. we have to be able to win back places that we lost. 14.5 newat i could fit hampshires in montana. i don't have the luxury to do -- i do not have the luxury just to go to the bright blue places. i have to listen and engage and give people a reason to think that government can work. i know you are a seasoned group, a little skeptical group. you should be, because all of us, here. you're used to politicians making promises and then seeing whether they deliver. here is promise i will make you. if i will denominate, i will win in massachusetts.
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i will win california. i will win vermont. any democrat with a pulse will win massachusetts, california, and vermont. this is about math. this is about 270 electoral votes. if we can't win black places like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, we are not going to win this election. you look at so many places that went obama to trump. why is it that folks are voting their economic, education, they ought to be with democrats but we are losing them along the way. i refused to see the votes of who voters, as if people work the land will forever be embedded to this guy with orange hair and a toilet. we need to make that connection to them. i am the only governor left in this race. in some respects it seems like maybe i got in too late. i got in in may.
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let's forget about the fact that bill clinton did not announce until october. i also had a job to do. my legislature is 60% republican, the best it has been the whole time i have served in office. i had to get medicaid expansion reauthorized. i signed my last bill on a monday and announced on a tuesday and was off to the races thereafter. i needed to get that job done. in part, what has happened is a lot of these debate rules are about the individual donors and folk spending $60 online to get the one dollar donor. i have not been at all the debates, but i know it is folks like you all, the early states that take a big field and narrow it down. that is what i'm counting on. even in that divided time without legislature, as was noted, we expanded health care for 100,000 people through medicaid expansion, we got physical and mental health parity, record investments in
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the k-12 system. first-time investments in pre-k. we kicked dark money out of our elections. we have the fourth lowest tuition and fees in the nation by freezing college tuition and investing more into higher education, not decreasing it. i have also recognized that not everyone is going to go to college. we have to recognize that when 67% of people do not even have a two-year degree -- we have made our two-year college and tribal college about recognized certificates and apprenticeships so people can climb that ladder into the middle class. they have been climbing at a rate higher than any other state in the country. we've been able to do that -- i look for common ground, but that does not mean compromising the values i hold. i begin with the assumption that everybody, at times, is focused on politics. not everybody is, but the values most people have come everybody wants to save community --
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everybody wants a safe community. everybody wants a decent job, a roof over their head, clean air, clean water, good public schools, the belief you can do better for the next generation then yourself. if those are the values we unite on, we can get things done in ways that have not been done in the past. when we were trying to get medicaid expansion through in 2015, this was the heart of the anti-obama care time. i went to account in montana. 1700 people on the rocky mountain front. everybody in town knew why i was coming because americans for prosperity, the coke brothers, were kind enough to mail everybody pictures with barack obama and steve bullock and our cheeks were touching. steve bullock and barack obama come and your health care. and insteadanyway of saying i'm from the government, here's everything you need. here's what you need. listened.person -- i
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the hospital administrator said 43% of people who walk that the doors don't have health insurance. a couple people got up afterwards and called me obama loving this or a communist. it was probably the fourth or fifth speaker who was the chair of the county commission. he was a rancher, he was not even from the town, he was from a town with a population of 50. a suburb. he got up and he says, i was born in this hospital. this hospital save my life when i had a heart attack two years ago, if we lose this hospital, this town is gone. of me saying this is what you need out of government, them saying to me as a leader, this is what i expect and need out of my government. that is what gave that republican legislature the courage to defy the coke brothers and vote when every vote matter. that is what made us go from 20% uninsured to about 7%.
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we have 20% of rural hospitals at risk of closing right now, that is how government should work from my perspective. montana could teach washington a few things. i know many of you think montana is just a small populated state somewhere over there, greater population then states like vermont or delaware, just think about that for a minute. i also think unless we are going to address what is holding d.c. back in so many respects, and that is the corrupting influence of money in the system, everything else the democrats are talking about throughout this election cycle is that much harder to attain. think about lindsey graham literally said we have to get these tax cuts through to make our donors happy. the same time that 44% of americans had $400 in their pockets if they faced an emergency, their car broke down or medical emergency. we pay more for prescription drugs than any country in the world.
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we have very little to show for it. how is it that cosco to negotiate prescription drug prices but it is against the law for the federal government to do it? there are a lot of oil companies doing pretty well. the republican party is now the only major political party in the world that doesn't acknowledge climate change is real. unless we are going to turn around and say how is it that washington can't get things done anymore, how is it that we cannot break some of these divides, i think anything else will be that much more challenging. i think it can be done. i have seen it done. we did it in montana. i was attorney general in part with your former general mike delaney, who is always nice to see. when citizens united came up. citizens united was the case that said money is speech and
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corporations have the same rights as people. when that case came down, every single state in the countries that came over. there is absently nothing we can do. democrats controlled both houses of congress and the presidency. they gave speeches about it. they raised money off of it but they did not do a thing. montana had this dark history of barons, these copper kings who controlled every local state and federal election. it was even recognized outside of montana. mark twain talked about william clark and said, clark buys politicians like most people buy food. corruption smells sweet now in montana. and it was. it was a completely captured state. regular folks said enough is sed theand pas corruption act of 1912. it said corporations do not spend or contribute in our
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elections. we have some of the lowest contribution limits in the nation. i will be darned if elections for 100 years is not about this. people talking to people, not how much money is going to be spent on the outside. up, iitizens united came said i knew i had to do something. the first case went to the supreme court. we had testimony from former republican office holders. what the threat of all the spending could do to our system. we lost on a 5-4 vote which taught me a few things. do not ever doubt, especially what one justice can do on the u.s. supreme court. it also taught me this is at the core of so many of the challenges we have. you have to find another way. i went back to my legislature, and it was about two thirds republican. we passed a law that said 90 days out from an election, i do not care if you call yourself americans for america for america, wherever it is, you
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have to disclose all of the money you are spending. in 2016,or reelection 90 days out, americans for prosperity the koch funded sent -- they did such a good job sending blanket mailers that even wound up at the governor's residence. my kids were looking at this saying dad, are you that much of a creep? on day 90 it stopped. if we can stop them there, we can stop them in new hampshire and across this country. we have to figure out away way people's voices are heard. we rolled out something a couple weeks ago. this crazy idea. let's imagine you elect someone to the u.s. senate. how about having him or her do the job half the time? meaning for the first three years of their term, they can't be focused on raising money or they can't be focused on reelection.
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congressudy came out, -- the average congressman spent 1.5 million hours raising money. spent?ld that time be maybe listening to constituents. may doing committee work. maybe building relationships, and sometimes relationships on the others if the aisle with other members. we have to get to a point where people do believe d.c. can work. y i willself-servingl acknowledge that maybe the way to do it is to get somebody from outside of d.c., because d.c. has become a place where talking has become a substitute for doing, or wasn't that a great speech along the way. theyce where in 20 years have not balance the budget on time. budget.alanced a passing a budget, even.
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i think this is -- everybody says it. the most important election of my lifetime. anybody that has ever run for office, you heard them say that. i think this one is true. it is bigger than just one election. to me it is a 243 year experiment called representative democracy that is being challenged and tested. democrats, if we cannot win back places we lost, if we cannot give people a reason to vote for us and not just against him, donald trump could win again. i see those places time and time again. i am an optimist that it can be done. you have to be optimistic when you have teenage daughters and a 13-year-old son. more than that, i think that is at the core of who we are as
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americans. we know we are at our best when all voices can be heard, not when we are divided into warring camps, or when this ability can replace the hostility. even after this election, we will have a deeply divided nation. we have to figure out ways to make that nation recognize that what we share in common is so much greater than what divides us politically. think back -- i was living in d.c. at the time of 9/11. think about shortly after that. how unified we were as a nation. we need that same purpose. compassion and unity to bridge some of the divides and challenge -- deal with what i think is the greatest challenge facing us. that is the belief that everybody has their fair shot at
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a fair life, the american dream. we have to figure out that way to get there. i think we can do it. that is who we are. you doingte not only this, but how you take this seriously along the way. it has always been the early states that take a large field and make it small. with over four months before any voter actually expresses a preference, your active engagement all the way along matters a lot. thanks much for having me. i will be happy to answer almost any question. [applause] >> karen from aarp. >> thank you, governor. can you hear me? gov. bullock: i sure can, karen.
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>> thank you for joining us in our beautiful state at this great time. i want to tell you about a 62-year-old new hampshire resident who has a 30-year-old son. on the same week these two people discovered they had two types of cancer. the son was in the process of changing careers and had no health insurance. his parents took out a second the $13,000finance needed.chemo he you can imagine what a toll this took on the family's finances. my question to you is, if you are elected president, what is the first thing you would do to lower prescription drug costs for this family and all of us in
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this good country? gov. bullock: thank you for the question. unfortunately, that families unique in is not that many respects. talking to a teacher in a rural area that took a second job because one third of her income goes to paying for insulin, -- i am more than an advocate, i'm a member of aarp -- recognizing you do have members and people all over the saying that have been should i buy my drugs or should i keep my home? i mentioned this at the start. it was stunning to me in many respects that costco or sam's club can negotiate prescription drug prices, the -- but the
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biggest purchaser of prescription drugs is the federal government, and they cannot. where i can begin is by giving the point -- the veterans administration was finally formula.o have its own it saves them $650 million the first year they did that. the difference on prescription drug prices is this is not just about federal government savings, this is about families being able to afford what they have. what i would do is turn around and say -- also a step back, telling that person story about the young man in between jobs. let's recognize that when he or she gets that next job, they can get insurance coverage. the greatest step, even though it has a lot of work to go is since medicare is the affordable care act. republicans have spent 70 times trying to get rid of even the lifetime cap for pre-existing
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conditions. step one is to negotiate prescription drug prices down. use the power of the federal government, because that impacts everybody. if that is not enough, i think orcan look at price caps things like that. first and foremost, i think the power of the market, if the federal government was allowed to do so, subsided -- could substantially change that. major still the only industrialized nation in the world that health care is something that is not accessible to everyone. i think we can get there by building on the affordable care act. i would do a public option and negotiate prescription drug prices, start getting to a point where we are doing payment reform, changing the way we are paying doctors, not just for test, but actually for coverage. that is how we make sure
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everybody has a portable, quality health care. i would not get rid of it and start over. >> thank you for coming here and enjoying our foliage. let's postulate you our president or secretary of the interior. there are bills regarding the national endowment for the arts and humanities, there is a proposal to increase their budgets by $12.5 million each, and there other arts related proposals to allow art therapy for servicemen or people and veterans. i wondered if you could tell me -- you have about fairly robust arts council in your state. i wonder if you intend the governor's awards from the arts or people in your family are involved in any way in the arts or you would support these budget propositions? gov. bullock: i think it is one
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of those -- there is the governor's award for the arts and i get to help pick them out. at times we have hosted at the montana governor's residence. we do it in the rotunda. we have tried to make sure investments in the community continue. there are so many different levels of this. wife, who is a self-described computer geek, she is a programmer, she has done work in makingt said we are not steam. overall education begins not just with the technical side but the artistic side as well. if you begin with what makes a small town become a place where people want to, it is often both the art scene and the ability to have it. that is a cultural.
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companies coming to montana do not talk about our tax rate. they talk about the amenities and the education system. i do think, and have always thought the federal government does have a significant role to play in enhancing that. what we have seen at times, and even more so, is programs like the federal investment side in the art in the humanities is often under attack and going down. what the part of vitality of representative democracy, if we lose the arts in the culture, we will lose who we are. i have no artistic talent whatsoever. in sixth grade, my teacher asked me to mouth the words so everybody else could participate because i was so off key. [laughter] >> this is a political rather
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than a policy question. donald trump has a brilliant ability to build himself up by denigrating or vilifying his opponents. he did it effectively in the republican contest three years ago. ,ow do you handle it considering he has a nickname for everyone, he calls people criminals. how do you deal with that as a politician? should you be able to get the nomination. gov. bullock: when you are dealing with a stable genius, how do you make sure -- from the perspective, there is a number of things. i do not think the answer is to out-trump trump. you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it. there are ways to do this by standing up and calling out behavior, calling out the falsehoods and how you are
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essentially destroying this overall system without continuing to be in the fight and the dialogue. here's an example from my perspective. -- hember when he said sent horrible tweets about four elected members of congress. then he goes down south and he sits there for 13 seconds while his crowd is chanting "send her back." the media and everybody focused on that for two and a half weeks. that took all of the oxygen. this was at the very same time that his justice department was trying to strip away pre-existing condition coverage from every single american that has health care. trying to completely get rid of the affordable care act. it was the same time betsy devos
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was kicking off her freedom scholarship trying to privatize one of the great equalizers we have, public education. it was about the same time this guy at the bureau of land management who spent his whole life trying to get rid of public lands. you call them out. you caught the facts. you do not shy from standing up to him, but you did not make it all about him, either. at least him and where he is bringing this country down into the gutter. adolescentseal with who are not always stable geniuses? or a six-year-old? you are firm, you call about, but you do not make it all about him or her. we need to have somebody that will stand up, call out the bs
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when it is bs, and it is exhausting because it is every single day, but not make it all about him and his messages. all the way in the back? >> good morning. my name is george bruno. i am old enough to remember watergate, getting up in the morning and leading -- reading the daily headlines. it seems like deja vu these days , getting up, looking at the headlines and scratching your head and saying what is happening to our country? this is a softball question. how would you assess the health of our democracy right now? assess itck: i would
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and that, as i said a 243 year experiment in representative democracy is being significantly challenged. that is one of the reasons i got into this. the coreknow foundations could make it through another four years. i say this on both sides at times. this is not giving -- when i got around, when i traveled i was asked to travel around quite a bit. 25% to 35% of my voters voted for donald trump. invariably among democrats, the response was what is wrong with those voters, or what is wrong with you? it we haveg how is lacked those connections to so many people in this country? what this president has normalized -- you point out watergate. one before two weeks
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ago to say we should impeach. in part because of the earlier question. i did not want to make the next year and a half about donald trump. i wanted to make it about the family who is dealing with that $13,000 a month payment for chemo. or the community that is worried about losing their hospital. president literally goes to another president and asks for their intervention for electoral purposes, when he says talk to my attorney general and my personal lawyer, there are a lot of things that the next administration can undo, or congress can undo.
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when it comes to foreign policy especially, something solely in the president of the united states, and that is to be our voice and are representative. i think the impeachment inquiry has to go on. i do think that all of the norms, from journalism to expectations of what we do and what we say are being so deeply tested right now. when i first got elected governor, my kids were six years old, eight years old, and 10 years old. the youngest in 40 years in montana. we move into the governor's kicks a and bmy son soccer ball and bounces off the painting, and someone says the pinning is worth $250,000. i say take down all the paintings, we have to live here. during my first state of the state, and we were deeply
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divided in the legislature was two thirds republican. i talked about how you will hear different sounds from the governor's house, and that is the sound of young kids. we as elected leaders have to realize our kids learn from our words and our deeds, what we say and what we do. i said our kids are watching. i believe that be more true today than ever before. this is about the health of representative democracy but about what are we going to give that next generation to inspire -- to aspire to or be a inspired by? do they believe the system can work in a way that can benefit their life? i think wearing dangerous times. i do not say that for fear or alarming. i say that as much as a parent than a candidate, to say we have to become better. we have to recognize there are still going to be incredible
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divides. we have to figure out a way to bridge some of those so people believe there is something bigger than the politics of the day, and that is this experiment called america. >> hello, governor. i want to ask you about alzheimer's. alzheimer's is the sixth leading cause of death in the united states. there are 5.8 million people living with the disease, and another 16 million taking care of those individuals but not being compensated for it. as president, what would you do to fight alzheimer's and end this public health crisis? gov. bullock: it is a public health crisis. to me it is not just all about statistics. when we talk about dementia and alzheimer's, the woman from a
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rap -- the woman from aarp spoke of -- this has faces and names. it is grandpa bill, my grandfather, and grandma rosie. when grandma got dementia and alzheimer's. it was my political mentor, and attorney general. there are a couple of things we need to look at along the way. spendnow, we as a nation billion a year when it comes to the care, treatment, and prevention of alzheimer's. if we do not do something about this by 2040, it will be $500 billion. we know the numbers are out there along the way. we know where this is going to go if we do not do anything. we are spending $200 billion a year on prevention care, treatment, yet we only spent $2.3 billion a year when it
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comes to research. is if we are said going to get to the point -- it is a crisis. , the estimate is our national institute of health should be spending another $350 million when it comes to the research side. first, fully funding research. secondly, recognizing we are all becoming caregivers. it is not just for alzheimer's. to figure out opportunities. we that -- we did that in montana for respite care programs. to give the caregivers a break. when it comes to home health care providers and others, we invested quite a bit in health care health-care workers. imagine that. pay increases along the way. we are giving, as we entrust our most vulnerable people, that is our family with other caregivers, we need to make sure those caregivers are paid.
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i think it is one of these where we do have to accept what the consequences are if we do not find ways to slow down, treat, prevent. when science has said what we need is another $350 million a year in investments, i think that is a relatively small investment for the impact it has on almost every family in any community or state. >> thank you. [applause] gov. bullock: thank you very much. >> we appreciate you being here. safe travels on the campaign trail. our thanks to our sponsors and our guests. a special shout out to come to a new space and be able to do this in a way i hope for all of you was seamless is because of incredible partnership we have with the new hampshire institute of parlor ship -- representing the council, pauline, katie, and shawn. thanks for making this work so well. have a good weekend.
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thank you very much. gov. bullock: absolutely. [room chatter]
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gov. bullock: i left yesterday and there was snow. >> ok.
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>> how are you? gov. bullock: i am great. >> thank you so much. gov. bullock: thanks for being here. thank you so much. >> how are you? gov. bullock: how are you? >> you think what happened in 2016 be getting 1980? cable television has made everything worse? gov. bullock: it may have been the time of the florida recount when people got further and further away? i am not naive.
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when somebody says to me -- i said the greatest threat threatening this country is ourselves. if we did not figure out who we are as a nation [inaudible] thank you. >> beautiful penmanship. gov. bullock: thank you. >> thank you for putting the a bakken steam. -- the a back in steam. that is great. i read an article that an engineer may earn someone right out of school, someone with a liberal arts degree may earn more over their lifetime. being an art and philosophy major, hopefully that will work out for me.
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>> we have unique opportunity in new hampshire. we appreciate that, thank you. >> rather would've gone out to montana to see you, it is beautiful country. gov. bullock: anytime you want to come out. .ven look at the polling 20% of people are even watching the debate. >> good luck. gov. bullock: not a bad spot. you have some real beauty here as well. if you're in concorde, the state library is across the street from the state house.
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gov. bullock: do you run it? great. >> when you come to register -- gov. bullock: i will. >> there are a lot of moments in what you said that resonate. gov. bullock: thank you. >> i'm a poly sigh professor at new england college. i would love to have you do a townhall. gov. bullock: what you teach? >> american politics. gov. bullock: quite a time to be teaching american politics. >> it is, indeed. thanks so much. thank you very much. gov. bullock: what do you do? >> i go to community college. gov. bullock: fantastic. what are you studying? >> entrepreneurship.
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[inaudible] i appreciate it. thank you. i do not know if your family does -- at easter. how you write your name on an egg. >> i think the crayon is better. you did great, thank you. it is funny: signature cursive over seven years in public office has changed because you signed the many things. >> better worse?
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gov. bullock: much worse. you cannot even read it. at least when i print. fantastic. thanks for being here today. >> good talk. gov. bullock: thank you, great, thank you. requests, one is --, who give you $1000. gov. bullock: how did you get him engaged? what if i done wrong? >> i came here to check you out. i was very favorably impressed. you go in night -- you know a guy named wally knox, a state representative in california? gov. bullock: he used to help us out. he has been really helpful. >> he is another guy who told me about you. very impressed. gov. bullock: thank you sure.
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>> how are you doing? thank you very much. [inaudible] a very holistic view of health, your poverty, through education. gov. bullock: that is fantastic. >> the only one in the country. thank you very much. gov. bullock: thank you. >> you have a very nice signature. look at that.
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gov. bullock: no one has ever complemented my penmanship, so i will take it. >> great, thank you. >> thank you so much for doing this. gov. bullock: thank you. >> great to hear comments on medicaid expansion. it is pretty interesting. me, and ick: what got did not explain. we tried to out authorized by ballot initiative, the tobacco company spent money trying to kill that.
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[room chatter] >> all right, governor. we are glad to have you back. gov. bullock: good to be here. >> you've been spending a lot of time in iowa.
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we are not taking it personally, we know they are first. you're going to iowa tomorrow. what is your commitment to new hampshire? gov. bullock: my commitment to new hampshire is great and we are still four months away from this. i've enjoyed the time in new hampshire. i am making sure we bridge divides and get things done. iowa?reater emphasis gov. bullock: it is the first state. i spend quite a bit of time there. i enjoy the time i am here as well. >> do you see a path forward if you do not make future debates, given the dnc increased threshold focus on national polling? gov. bullock: i do. last week showed that 20% of iowans watch those debates. we are still 120 days out from any voters casting ballots. this will not be decided by the debates. what i hear from folks is nothing meaningful came out of
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these debates and they are often disconnected from people's lives. i think there is still a lot of time. it was said you would apply for public financing and become the first presidential candidate to do so. can you speak more to that. have you applied? gov. bullock: we are in the process of applying. 15 of the candidates running for president have said public financing should be part of it. my career has been trying to deal with the fact of the corruptive influence of money. public finance allows a one dollar donor. >> [inaudible] i think it is good for our democracy. what you make of this move by the debaterd to skip
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if the dnc does not change the rules? she says they are rate elections or rate debates. gov. bullock: the dnc was well-intentioned but i do not to gethe best example -- each individual donor. you look at the republican party, even in 20 threshold was 1%. is the bestnk it way to pick a candidate or nominee, but who will pick the nominee's folks in new hampshire , iowa, south carolina. that is what takes a big field and narrows it down. >> you just came out today with an education plan. are you worried the focus on the impeachment inquiry is going to prevent discussions about policy and nuance in that debate in this primary? gov. bullock: i think the discussion about the impeachment
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inquiry has to happen. ,here are a lot of issues things like the great equalizer, public education, public participation in representative democracy, that we cannot take our eye off of. as was discussed in the questions this morning, after this president, we still have democracy to protect and rebuild. >> we talked about campaign cash a minute ago. you have enough money to continue until the primaries? gov. bullock: i do. great. thanks very much. the white house did not
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release a weekly address from the president. democratic senator chuck schumer released one. this timeat during senate democrats would continue the legislative agenda to a -- address health care, the climate crisis and protecting middle-class families. sen. schumer: over the past month, evidence has emerged that the president of the united states pressured a foreign leer

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