tv Campaign 2020 Pete Buttigieg at Grinnell College CSPAN December 6, 2019 5:40pm-6:35pm EST
affairs and foreign affairs, do you see that deep state in the military thwarting of some of what president trump wants to do? guest: i am concerned about it ever since i was a private and moving through the ranks, you had differences with your command, your leadership and your duty was to state your differences and make the case. as soon the command says you have made your case, this is what you are doing, your job is to salute and move out and do the best of your ability to complete the mission the commander has given you whether you agree or not and if you are so vehement in your [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national able satellite corp. 2019] >> hello. so i am the co-chair of the democratic party and we are the volunteers who have the exciting challenge of running the caucuses. so i just want to see a show of hands, how many of you are planning to caucus? whoa. that is both inspiring and terrifying.
because we are going to have to handle all of you when you come in. so the second show of hands i want to see is how many of you are registered to vote as a democrat? ok, that's a good sign. we have new democrats every four years here. we want to make sure you have an opportunity to register as a democrat. it just makes it so much easier no matter who you're supporting that we'll be ready for you on caucus night. we have three of the campus democrats, co-presidents out here tonight. olver, ali, they were holding clipboards. here's al irving in the front. and nat all the way in the back. if you are registered as a democrat, it just makes everything go so much better. if you can register on the way out, we'll sob excited to see you back, many of you on february 3. without further ado, i wanted to do a quick introduce of someone who we're very excited to welcome back to >> i nell. he's been here three -- grinnell. he's been here three times. it was a group of 20 students who were interested in meeting a young mayor from south bend,
indiana, who president obama said might be a new leader of the democratic party. and so we got to meet with him. we sat around a seminar table. at that time we were able to talk to him and we were really excited. at that time when i got to introduce him, i was so concerned about making thure -- concerned about making sure i said his last name the right way, i forlingte about the other things to say about him. one, it is inspiring, as someone who has been a democrat for 25 years, when i became a democrat, i never would have imagined that people in the lgbtq community would have almost full rights of citizenship. it was a dream, it was an aspiration. it was not something that we thought was possible. [applause] thank you. and so for the idea that someone not only could be a full citizen, can be someone who can be car -- can be
married, can be in the military and do all these things, but also could be running for president which is something we , ver thought was possible still more work to be done, but it's exciting to see this happening. the second thing that i would say is, we hear so much that the road to the white house, to take back the white house, goes through the midwest. goes through towns like green bay, wisconsin, or gran rapids, michigan, and places where democrats haven't been doing so well. and places like south bend, indiana. the fact that mayor pete has been looking at these challenges for the last eight years, looking into issues about housing, looking into issues about when employment's changing, he's looked at these issues and people look at what he does in south bend and they like it, this might be a model for democrats. so it's experience that really matters. the third thing i would mention is he is someone who has -- his service as mayor was introduced for a time, which was -- interrupted for a time, which was to be in the u.s. military.
so that's something that he spent eight months in afghanistan in the navy reserves and it's something that so many people, regardless of the wisdom or lack of wisdom of our policymakers, people who join the military are doing it because they believe in what the united states can be and try to make the world a better place and i know that that's something that people make real sacrifices for that and i know that pete has done. that he's been close to people who have done. that he's seen the families who have done that. that's something that i think is worth considering and keeping in public life. the last thing i would mention is sort of why a 37-year-old, why is a 37-year-old need to run for president? is this the right time? something he said in those small meetings when we met is, we're a generation that's impatient for change. we're a generation that's seeing things like climate change, like economic inequality, seeing things that we really feel like need to change and this is something that is not just about the next election, but is about generations to come and what they're going to face and that's something that he was saying is something that he wants to see, the leadership
from his generation, that it's not time to wait. so those are the things i would want to say about mayor pete and right now i want to make sure that we all give him a warm welcome. without further ado, here comes mayor pete buttigieg. [cheers and applause] mr. buttigieg: thank you so much. big thank you to john and the county democratic party. i would say the county party chair is in many ways the unsung hero of democratic politics. i know i'm here by way of the 2020 election. but let's make sure that we never get caught treating the presidency like the only office that matters. because the work we're doing in the state and local democratic races is critically important
too. and we want to lift that up. cheers and applause] and i want to thank all of you for, first of all, making me feel so welcome. each time we come to grinnell, there's more folks, there's a bigger room and a bigger crowd. and the conversation grows big tore. so i'm looking forward to the conversation we're going to have today. i want to ask -- begin by asking you in as much detail as you can to picture something that is definitely in our future. a day that's going to come one way or the other. and that is the first day that the sun comes up over america and donald trump is no longer the president of the united states. just hold that imnadge your mind for a second. [cheers and applause] -- image in your mind for a second. [cheers and applause] the sooner the better, right? we cannot go on like this. and i think we're all ready to put that chaos behind us, to put the corruption behind us.
to put the tweets in the rear-view mirror. just not wake up to that anymore. wouldn't that be nice? [applause] but part of why i'm asking you to really picture that day is to think about the challenges we're going to have that day as well. just think about it. the sun's going to come up over a country that's going to be even more divided. even more exhausted from fighting and torn up over politics than we are right now. very much needing to be brought together. because of everything we've been through. and everything we're about to go through right now. and on the other hand, something else will also be true. something else will be facing the next president which is the simple fact that the issues before us, the crises that have brought us to this point will still be there crying out for action. the issues like a climate that is this close to the point of no return. the fact that we have a gun violence epidemic that has kids getting active shooter drills before they learn to read.
an economy where even if the stock market is looking good, more and more americans are left out and today there is not one place in the united states of america, not one county where somebody on the federal minimum wage can afford a two-bedroom apartment. those problems are crying out for action. and so you see what's going to be required of the next american president. on one hand, we're going to need bold solutions to solve these and other major problems that can't wait. and we're going to need a way to do it that can actually draw the american people together and have us less divided and galvanized rather than polarized the. that is the kind of president that i'm running to be. and it's why i'm asking you to caucus for me here in iowa. to be the kind of president who can help america pick up the pieces, come together in common cause, and get these big things done. and while that sounds like a tall order, this is what the presidency is capable of and it's what the presidency is
for. not the glorification of the president, but the empowerment and unification of the american people. [applause] hat's why i'm running. now, the road map to get that ne lies in american values that do not belong to one party or another. they're our values. but if you take them seriously, i believe they lead in a progressive direction. patriotism. love of country. the flag does not belong to one political party. and if we want to honor the flag, then we've got to-what are it stands for. it's going to take -- honor what it stands for. it's going to take more to live up to the honor of patriotism and loving our country, it's going to take more than the cheap nationalism of a president who hugs the flag, literally. or worse, a president who thinks that it's pro military to overthrow military justice and pardon war criminals, feeding into the falsehood that there's no difference between a
war fighter and a war criminal. that is not patriotism. that is not right and that is not making our country safer. [applause] when i talk about loving our country, i'm starting with the understanding that our country is made of people. and you cannot love a country if you hate half the of the people in it. i'm talking about a richer, deeper sense of love of country. that understands what it's going to take to protect our country and the part of that is to protect our values. to protect the honor of the united states. that's why it matters as a question of national security that the word of the united states is trusted and that no ally ever have reason to question whether it's a good idea to bet your life on the creblingt of the united states of america -- credibility of the united states of america. that's a matter of national security and patriotism. [applause] but protecting our country, protecting our -- each other, that starts right here at home. and so it is also for reasons of security and protection of
this nation that we must act to make sure that the second amendment can never again be twisted into an excuse to do nothing at all to save american lives when we need commonsense gun laws like background checks, red flag laws and action on assault weapons like what i carried in the military. that will keep us safer. [cheers and applause] and if we really mean business about protecting our country, then we have to protect our country's future. that is why we must act here at home and lead the world to face up to climate change as the global security threat of our time and be ready to meet that challenge with the actions that will resolve it in our time. to conquer that challenge before it conquers us. that's where my patriotism takes me. [applause] so you see how that value can lead us to the right place and help us hold together an american majority that is
increasingly ready to do the right thing. the problem is they're pitting us against each other around the very values that could be uniting us. you think about a value like faith. first of all, this is a country designed around the idea that our constitution, our nation and our government belong to people of every religion and of no religion equally. that is a core premise of the united states constitution. and at the same time to those who are guided in their moral formation by religious faith, i'm offering a presidency where you don't have to wake up in the morning, look at the news, and think to yourself, whatever happened to i was hungry and you fed me? i was a stranger and you welcomed me. what you did to the least of these, did you to me. [applause] that's where faith leads me. i believe that american values like democracy can lead the way towards us doing a lot better. i'm not jft talking about
democracy as a system. i'm talking about democracy as a value. the moral weight to ensuring that every vote is counted and every voter counts and that must be honored, where we are talking about districts that are drawn in so many parts of the country, to where politicians pick out their voters instead of the other way around. or the role of money in politics where citizens united has basically held that corporations have the same political soul as you and i do. or the simple fact and some folks say i'm going too far on this but i think in a democracy, it might be appropriate, come november, in the future for us to just pick our president by counting up all the votes and giving it to the person who got the most. like we do in every other election. [cheers and applause] s a matter of democracy. and i believe that the core american value of freedom can guide the way toward a better life in this country. but that means we have to rescue freedom from the way
it's been shrunk, the jar it's been put into by our friends on the other side of the aisle when they get to washington. i'm not interested in preserving -- when i talk about freedom, it's not about saving am zob's freedom to not have to -- amazon's freedom not have to pay any federal income taxes at all next year. it was not about cutting all taxes that are there. sometimes freedom means that we have to get government out of the way. like getting government out of the business of dictating to women what their reproductive health care choices ought to be. that's certainly an important part of securing freedom. [applause] but then sometimes in order to become more free we need the public sector to step up. that's why cities and towns and counties are organized to pave roads and deliver water. that's why we have school districts that, by the way, deserve to be supported by a secretary of education in washington who believes in public education and supports our teachers. [applause]
and also in order to deliver on that idea of american freedom, i believe the public sector must step up when it comes to health. because i don't think you're free if you don't have health care. so my proposal, medicare for all who want it, means that we take a version of medicare we allow anybody to enroll on it, we allow you automatically if you're eninsured. but i trust to you decide whether you want it and if you'd rather be on some other plan, that's fine. the important thing is to make sure there's no such thing as an uninsured american and we need to step up to do that in the name of american freedom. [applause] so the point i'm making is, if we follow our values, they lead us toward that urgent action that cannot wait. we can't wait 10 years to solve these problems. we can't wait four years to solve these problems. we have to act on issue after issue, on our climate, we can't wait any longer than we have. on safety. on a minimum wage that's actually livable and paid family leave in this country.
we can't wait. we can't wait to take steps to make sure that in this country your race has no bearing on your health or your wealth, your life expectancy or your relationship with law enforcement. we have to act on that right now. [applause] we can't wait any longer about an escalating crisis of deaths from despair in it the united states of america. that could claim two million lives in the decade ahead. we have to act right now to see to it that addiction and mental health are addressed as vigorously and discussed as openly as any physical health or other medical challenge in the united states. it's time and we can't wait. [applause] i could go on but the point is on issue after issue we've got to do this now. and we can. and when we do, we can also do it in a fashion that heals this
nation. i'm not pretending we're all going to agree. that's not going to happen. that's not the point. but i can offer you a presidency where you can turn on the news, see the white house, and actually feel your blood pressure go down a little bit instead of through the roof. [laughter] [applause] and even more importantly than that, respond to the crisis of belonging in this country that i think is propeling some of those mental health challenge fwacearks well as what's wrong with our politics. because mistake is going around this country, and the white house is fuel -- message is going around this country, and the white house is fueling it, that says, you don't belong. to different people in different ways because of who you are or the language you speak at home or your race or religion or disability, whatever it is, people are being told, you don't belong. and my message, is yes, you do. and we all have to support each other in building that sense of belonging. and we're working to do it not just in the white house that i proposed to set up, but in the campaign that we're running too. this is very important to us. it's why we're reaching out to everybody who sees the need for change. to progressives, to moderates,
i'm meeting a lot of future former republicans out there who may not agree with me on everything but see why we have to have a change right now. and we can build a movement that will be big enough and will win big enough not just to put an end to the trump presidency but to end trumpism and to set us on a better course not just politically, but governing this country for a better day. [applause] that is what i am here to deliver. [applause] so hopefully -- that's more than enough by way of monologue. i want us to have a conversation, make sure i'm responding to whatever's on your mind. we have folks with mics. they'll hold a mic for you as we go around the room. i see one, two. so, just sit tight and the mic will come to you. you're up. -- i think nible]
and care a lot about the needs and priorities -- [indiscernible] -- particularly with the trans community and he epidemic of -- thank you. so i think a lot about how there's a large epidemic in terms of the murder of trans women of color specifically. and knowing that the gay and trans panic defense is only banned in eight states which largely started in 2013 and that's only six years ago. i speaking to the university, -- universe, when you are elected president, what are some of the things would you do to help protect and uplift the queer and trans community knowing there's so much damage that has been done historically to our communities? [applause] mr. buttigieg: yes. thank you for lifting that up. and you're right. i worry sometimes there's a sense out there that because
marriage equality happened, everything's fine for everybody in the lgbtq-plus community. and while i'm very thankful for marriage equality, and thank you, iowa, by the way, for helping pave the way and show what can be done in the midwest on that. [cheers and applause] but we've got a we have got a long way to go, when you look at the policy war on transamericans, when we see violence against black trends women, we see what we're up against. there's two level we was to deal with. policy level and something a little higher. the policy level, we can't go on with the gay panic or transpanic defense, first of all. the harm that that is used to justify is unacceptable. secondly, we clearly need an equipped federal equality act no matter what the supreme court decides in this case they're hearing right now on discrimination, we need to make sure everybody is covered by a federal equality act that says you cannot be discriminated against because of gender identity or sexual orientation.
i will sign it the miami i it gets to my desk. third, it matters what's going on in the departments, in the agency from the department of education which needs to make sure that acceptance is being promoted in everything from poll circumstances make sure everybody can go to the bathroom because barring a medical miracle, everyone will need that, for as long as i'm alive. and all the way through to making sure people understand the culture and history and meaning, because a lot of transpeople be degree -- are being defined out of existence by the message that comes through. in addition to making sure that all kinds of policies across health and human services, for example, reflect the medical an health needs of transamericans. and by the way, we need hate crimes laws in every state in the union. we don't have that even now, including in my state. so that's the policy part but there's something else.
that's what i'm getting at with the crisis of belonging. we need a president who, both through representation, who is invited to the table and put in positions of power and through the language. a lot of it is through what you don't do, but a lot of it is through how we lift up people who have been made to feel, i think a lot of us here made to feel sometimes like you're taking up space that you're not sure if there's room for you. we've got to turn that on its head. i know that doesn't sound as concrete as a policy thing, like the equality act, but i think it might be the most important thing the presidency can do, to send a message, set a tone, that we support everyone for who they are and want everyone in this country to be able to thrive. [applause] >> mayor pete, i also come from a family of educators.
we both know that decades of cuts to education have led to skyrocketing tuition and crushing debt for students and worsening treatment of faculty and staff. our higher education system leaves people out. especially black and brown and poor students. your higher education plan leaves in place a system which is impossible to navigate. in your -- and your campaign is spreading lies about who benefits from public goods. as a member of iowa student action, our vision of higher session one that is free, accessible, and inclusive. we're not asking for college to be merely affordable. we are fighting for the right to make a choice. where that -- whether that choice is college, technical school, graduate programs or no higher education at all. our vision is a free higher education for everyone, including formerly incarcerated, international, and undocumented students. you have the opportunity here to be a leader.
to stand with us. instead of against us. i am asking you to do the right thing, again. will you support free college for all? mr. buttigieg: i will support free college for most. nice to see you again. [laughter] nd thanks for speaking up. i don't think either one of us has changed but we put a little more the tail in our plan since i saw you last. doesn't sound like i've quite won you over but let's try to do this. let's talk about the areas i think we agree on and then let's negotiate or at least daylight the ones it sounds like we probably don't. first, i agree on making sure that cost is never a barrier to higher education. you mentioned the formerly incarcerated. one thing i want to make sure is clear is that the exclusion on pell grants for people while they're incarcerated is wrong. it makes it harder for folks to get ahead and i would eliminate
that. what we've set up, you've probably seen is that we would make public college tuition free for the first 80% by income. that gets you to about $100,000. you get past, north of that 80%, between 80% and 90%, sliding scale. if you're in the top 10% by income, don't get me wrong, i wish you well, but i think you can handle your own tuition costs and i think you should. we still need income-based debt repayment. we should have your debt forgiven for public service, as an incentive to do public service. [applause] there's a program now for that but it's almost impossible to take advantage. it's like 1% of people actually are able to take advantage of it. so we can make it more generous, more user friendly. another thing we can do is make sure the inch r.s. and
department of education talk to each other so that that hard to navigate system you mentioned, we're talking about things being automated in the economy, but not. this you fill out a fafsa, your time is being wasted. the government has that information but the systems aren't talking to each other. i imagine the part where we part ways is that it should be free for everyone. there are a lot of goods like k through 12 that should be free for everybody. but everybody in my vision should finish at least high school. i just don't think that everybody, i know that not everybody wants to go to college. everybody who does, cost shouldn't be a barrier. but we know that not everybody does. i do worry when we say it ought to be universal, we're sending a message that you can't get ahead unless you go to college or that college is a fundamental need that every single american should have. i think every single american should have access to it but i think we have a responsibility to make sure that everyone can
thrive whether you've been to college or not. and some of those dollars that could go to funding the free ride tuition for that top 10%, i guess my more progressive instinct is to spend that in other ways on those who need it most. i hope you feel there's a lot of overlap between where we are even if i can't win you over on some of it. thanks again for coming. [applause] >> i really appreciate hearing you talk about the need to address and destigmatize mental health and addiction. i'm a little curious on your stance on response to the opioid isis, maybe some of the more divisive approaches, methadone and needle exchanges.
mr. buttigieg: it can be divisive but leadership can get us in the right direction. we know that med case assisted therapy, methadone assisted treatment, it works. and we're finally turning the corner on understanding that this is a medical, not moral, problem. the moral problem is if we know there's something that would reduce harm and we don't do it. so we've seen the success of, i visited a needle exchange that then-governor mike pence, of all people, reluctantly approved in southern indiana, only after he was elected -- left with no other choice because of a massive h.i.v. outbreak that grew on his watch because he wouldn't do it sooner and declare an emergency. it is commonsense that if you can prevent the harms associated with injection drug use, you should. so i would call for more physicians to be qualified to prescribe methadone and subox own and that we lift arbitrary
caps. we've got to do a lot of work to bridge people, people recover from an overdose but it could be weeks before someone can see them, and their lives depend on what happens in those wokes. we have a provider shortage when it comes to mental health and addiction. we have to put dollars behind, it's one thing to make sure there's parity on the books but it's important that we fund it accordingly. many states are looking into supervised injection. i don't think we should stop states that are looking at that. i think they should have a chance to prove, it's very controversial, i get that but they should have a chance to prove it can save lives. if they do, we shouldn't stand in the way. now, when we're talking about more enlightened approaches on opioids, we do need to pause for the question of racial justice. there are a lot of folks, especially in my community,
mainly the african-american community, who have said, mayor, it's great that everybody is so forward looking now and turning the corner on the opioid crisis, where were you in the crack epidemic? while i was not in a position of of responsibility in that era, i feel a sense of responsibility now. there were sentencing disparities and it was a law enforce. only approach. that's one reason why in the course of reforming the drug approach, including decriminalizing and legalizing marijuana, we need to look back at harms done in the past and reverse those harms for people incarcerated right now in cases where we know the incarceration is doing more harm than the offense ever did. thanks. [applause] there in the yellow hat. >> [inaudible] an elerly black
man was killed in his own home by a white police officer in indiana, after that happened, you met with police before you met -- [inaudible] ok. so in june, an elderly black man was killed in his own home by a white police officer in south bend, yane. and once that happened, you met with the press before you met with the man's family. and you met with the police, i think, before you met with his family. and the officer wasn't fired because of that. i just want to -- like wonder what the -- what your thought process was behind that? i was reading about it, it really upset me.
that's not something i think should ever happen in our country. mr. buttigieg: thank you for asking. a few details are incorrect there. i want to clear it up. this did not take place at the gentleman's home. it took place in a parking lot at about 3:00 a.m. there was a phone call that somebody had been going through call, a police officer responded to that call. according to the police officer, he was attacked with a knife. but, his body camera was not activated at the time. so there's no way -- we've not seen any evidence that clears that up. so one of the runs i -- reasons i called for an outside investigation on what happened. that investigation is going on right now. i also met with the family of the individual who was killed. his name is eric logan. i met with that family that day. i knew some of his family members from before. and have had conversations throughout that week and ever since with community members and family members and of course with the police about what this meant for our city. what i believe about the
importance of police legitimacy is that every life is endangered as long as there's a wall of mistrust between -- especially african-american residents and law enforcement. this contributed to that mistrust even as the details are still being worked out. we knew we didn't have to wait for an investigation to come back to start acting. so what we did was, we came together, side by side work activists, not always agree, sometimes it was lively, sometime there was a loft emotion, and that's fine. that's healthy. i knew that sometime it was my job to be there an absorb a lot of anguish that was going on. through that, other the course of ethis months, we have been able to structure community conversations where we have empowered community members to build on work we have already done in the city. to change policies around the use of force. around how body cameras are used. around recruiting. because we also have a challenge, as so many
communities have, especially since ferguson, of recruit manager diverse members to be on the police department. one of the most important things you can do to build up that trust and eradicate bias from policing. i can't say that we have solved the problems around policing in america. in our city or any city. what i can tell you is that we have worked side-by-side to make enormous progress and that because i have seen the anguish that this causes in a community that i'm responsible for holding together, i know what is at stake in making sure that we have a president who is committed to supporting police accountability, police he yit macy, and racial justice in every community in the united states. i would invite you to continue to look at what we do going forward as well as what we've done to understand why i'm practicing what we preach back at home. [applause]
>> so in 2011, president obama intervened in the libya crisis, saying, quote, that the u.s. had a duty to protect se civil -- the civilians of libya under the tyranny of gaddafi. almost eight years later, it's one of the worst crises in the world. do you have any intent to go back on the promises obama once made. mr. buttigieg: here's the standard i would set for the use of u.s. military force. it has to either be an immeant case of threat to the u.s. homeland or it has to be something where we have an obligation to our treaty allies
as part of mutual protection. or where we are part of a legitimate international action to prevent crimes against humanity that legitimate international part is really important. it can't just be something that is stitched together to look like an international action like what happened in the iraq invasion. not every problem, including frankly, not even every problem that's within created by mistakes in the past can be solved with military intervention. we need to take on board the lessons of the last few years and the last few decades in understanding that there has to be an extremely high bar before we're deploying force in that kind of way. and having seen how hard it is to eand war, even a war we were forced to get into like the afghanistan war, i thought i was one of the last troops turning out the lights when i left, and that was years ago, and we are still there debating how to get
out. it is a powerful reminder of why this should be a last resort. what i will say, for the suffering that's happening whether in north africa or anywhere else in the world, it is exactly for this reason that we need to be a leader in the international community, in accordance with our values, which by the way are not just american values, the desire for human rights, safety, democracy, are shared aspirations. even, or especially, in cases where maybe we're not going to pull the trigger on military intervention, we should use all the tools in our tool kits to promote good outcomes and make sure that we are a force for greater security, stability, peace, and democracy everywhere in the world. [applause] just one more? all right, you're up. >> i spoke with you in february or march, last time you were here, and it was right after the green new deal had been released
by alexandria ocasio cortez and other representatives. i asked you what you thought about it and if you would consider implementing it. you said it would be a good blueprint for climate policy moving forward. now, i was excited about your campaign at that point in time and then as you've released more policy, i've been disappointed. because i feel like you've gone back on those promises, those progressive promises you made. so in a time that is a time of crisis, that is generation defining, how can we trust you, while you're taking money from corporate donors and attacking progressive leaders like elizabeth warren an bernie sanders, to lead our country into a brighter future? mr. buttigieg: first of all, i'm not aattacking anybody. we have policy disagreements and we lay them out, but that's what a campaign is for. we're going to do it respectfully and we're going to
do it honestly. secondly, i don't take corporate p.a.c. money. we have over 700,000 individuals, hewns, who have contributed to this campaign. and what i think all of them must know, i'm sure most of them don't agree with me on every single issue, or maybe don't agree with each other on every single issue, but what they know is what i propose to do, since i laid it out there. since i spoke to you last, i have laid out my green new deal, what it does is gets our economy carbon neutrally 2050, which we've got to do, and what all the different plans look at in some way or another. admittedly biased but i think mine is the best, here's why. i don't think we should measure the bigness of the idea by how many trillions of dollars it costs. if there's a way to do it that can be more efficient, we should. [applause] similarly, i don't think we should measure the boldness of an idea by how many of our
fellow americans it can alienate. one of the important things about getting this right is we can't let -- climate is too important, our lives are on the line, it is too important to let it keep being another partisan battlefield. it's one of the reasons why part of the emphasis in my plan is not just to do the things we need to do policy wise, carbon tax, fleet conversion, but also calling more people into being part of the solution. that's why there's an empa sis on agriculture. i want a lot of rural county, communities, and families, who have been given reason to believe that accepting climate science would mean saying they're part of the problem because of the way they receive the politics around this, to say we're recruiting you, we need your help, and to bring them in, to break down some of these political walls. it's like if there was a disagreement politically over whether we ought to treat cancer or not, it's too important for that. but the reality is, look, every good candidate will have a plan
to get us carbon neutral for 2050. the real question is, can it get done? otherwise the excitement and elegance of our plans and their impact gets multiplied by zero. that's why i foe used -- focused on putting together a plan that gets the job done and can happen. i'm not just talking about the politics of navigating congress. i'm talking about the need as a governing imperative to do these things in a way that calls the american people together. not that everybody is going to agree, not going to happen. but to keep, rather than blow up the american majority that's ready to do the right thing. i don't know if i'll win you over or not but that's why i believe this is the most responsible progressive approach whether on climate or anything else. [applause] i'm told my time is up. i'm glad we were able to have this conversation. i'm glad it was as candid as it
was too. do you want to do the thing? [laughter] might want to pass it down a little. still can't make it out. will kill u -- you us? that's really neat. i'm here to help you. pro corporate funding equals climate chaos. that's why i don't take corporate p.a.c. money. and wall street pete. i remember when they said the same thing about obama, he set up the cfpb, put elizabeth warren in charge of it and had some of the toughest regulations. thank you for being here. i look forward to seeing you on the trail. thank you.
>> elizabeth warren is calling you to open up your fundraisers. mr. buttigieg: i think it's a process thing that's a bit of a stretch from what we're really doing. i don't know when it's appropriate, if i go into someone's home. i do know what i stand for. anybody who sees me speak anywhere will hear the message that i have for america. the plcy -- policy ideas that i have. >> what do you make of her calling you out by name in the last 24 hours for the first time in the campaign? what's that a sign of to you? mr. buttigieg: could be a sign we're winning the policy argument. i don't know. >> any other questions? >> you've got some demonstrators
here, getting the frontrunner treatment. how does the campaign stand up to that additional scrutiny? mr. buttigieg: i think it's important for us to demonstrate that we can. we're talking about the american presidency. you ought to be able to demonstrate that you can stand up to difficult questions. there were a lot of difficult questions today and they were really important and really good and i'm glad we had the chance to go through it. feels like the treatment sometimes but we asked for it by running for president. >> is senator warren wrong that she's the more transparent candidate in the race? mr. buttigieg: i think it would be good for her to release tax returns like i have over the entire career, that's one way to show transparency. i believe in transparency and being as open as i can about my story. >> your issue with opening up fundraisers is people may not be comfortable having reporters there or a pool reporter there?
mr. buttigieg: we can keep having the conversation, i'm open to it. i think it's interesting when somebody suddenly decides that's important after doing it a different way for a long time. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> mayor pete! > thanks, so much. >> we've been waiting. >> mayor pete! >> c-span's "washington journal," live every day with
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