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>> this is the full court press. bill press show live on your radio and on current tv. >> 25 minutes after the hour. maybe it 2 -- make it 26. the big primaries in wisconsin, great victory for tom barrett in indiana. joe donnelly has got a real shot now at the u.s. senate seat since they nominated add tea partier. north carolina a disgrace to the nation becoming the 31st state. can you believe it? 31 states have a constitutional amendment discriminating against gays and less beanswers on the issue of same section marriage. by the way, it's interesting to note in north carolina this is one redeeming feature. in the urban areas charlotte, asheville, greensboro raleigh-durham the andment lost. it passed in the hollows, up in
the mountains. it passed in the rural areas that's the weird thing about north carolina. their metro politan areas but there are a lot of places between. >> yeah. >> maybe they ought to have an intelligence test before you can vote in north carolina. andy, hi had. >> hi, bill. how are you. >> good. a little upset about north carolina. otherwise, okay. very excited about wisconsin, though. >> oh, yes. we really needed this shot in the arm with barrett. i think it's going to be good. >> do you think he will be a strong candidate, a winning candidate? >> oh, yeah. i definitely do. he is real popular here and he is just a good man good family man and a strong politician. >> he ran a strong race against last time against scott walker? lost by five points before we knew who walker was. >> that's great. they've got a lot of these, the carpet he were's union, 30% of the carpet eventer's union voted
for walker. i think it was mainly because they were scared of their guns being taken away. you know, things like that. >> i was going to say, i think they thud move the democratic convention out of there. >> yeah. i have to tell you i would vote for that in a heart beat. i love madison and i am not sure madison would have enough hotel rooms. i know one thing, it would be a friendly environment, a hell of a lot friendliar environment in madsong, wisconsin. andy, i will make you a deal. you see elect tom barrett as the next governor of wisconsin, and i i will bet you tom barrett will bring the next one to wisconsin. we have time and we will take more calls on the results in indiana, north carolina and, of course, wisconsin. what does it all mean? right back here on the full court press. how about it? >> this is the bill press show.
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blocking any attempt to vote on allowing -- preventing student loans from doubling the rate of interest rate on student loans from doubling on july 1st, but mitch mcconnell said yesterday, no. no. no. no. we shouldn't debate this. >> it's ridiculous that we are having these kind of showboats on the floor when we could sit down and negotiate an outcome. >> they won't even vote on it. they won't even allow a vote on it. you know why mitch mcconnell won't allow the senate to vote on it because he knows it would pass. the overwhelming majority of senators. every democrat and i think enough republicans would be shamed into it would vote to keep student loan rights at the 3.4%. mcconnell knows he would lose that vote. >> that's why he won't even allow it. he can explain to the american people why he would prefer giving tax breaks to millionaires as opposed to
giving a student loan break to seven million american students. yet we are trying to find out now. we know mitt romney will be the nominee for sure. where does he stand on the various issues because we are not so sure coming out of the primary. for example where does he stand on immigration? for answers, we turn to our good friends at the center for american progress think progress justice editor and senior constitutional analyst, ian milhouser. ian, good morning. >> good morning. great to be here. >> thanks for joining us this morning. so what is mitt romney's stand on immigration? do we know? >> if you listen to the rnc yesterday, he is still deciding what his position is. >> that's what they said. the problem is that it's not true. >> wait. stop there. so on this important issue, the republican national committee
says he is still deciding? >> that is honest to god the word that came out of an rnc spokeswoman's mouth yesterday. they walked it back and pound to some of the very harsh conditions he held during the primary, and this is what's so troubling, far right electorate. they don't like immigrants. so romney has been pretty consistent in saying his policy, he wants to make life so miserable for undocumented immigrants they will have to leave. he called it self-deportation. so now in general, he has to appeal to latino voters. he is trying to etch-a-sketch it all around. >> that's one of the times. there were several times during the primarily in those debates.
he can't ignore or deny those previous statements. it's been pretty shar be. didn't he say about the dream act, he would ve tote it if he were president. >> he said he would veto the dream act. this is a bill for people who came over to the united states often as children. many of these people were three four, five years old. you are inclined to blame the 3-year-old child. >> exactly. they have lived in the united states almost their entire lives. if you serve in the military or get a college degree we will give you a path to united states citizenship. i don't understand why this is controversial. they are going to serve their country and become productive members of society. why say they are going to veto
it is really beyond me. >> mitt romney on the arizona igration law too, has been very supportive. hasn't he? >> you need to take it from russell pierce who was the who sponsored that bill or chris trobach who will authored that bill. pierce said that romney's policies are identical. tobach who the is tied to anti- anti-immigrant hate groups: ol martin luther king day. during the primary romney was sending a messages loud and clear and i understand why he may witch he had not' sent that message now that he is in the general election. you don't get to take it back. you know, dispute what romney may think, your path isn't on an
etch-a-sketch. he can't shake them away. >> that's true about every issue. i think what the r and c really meant is mitt romney is trying to decide how much he can wiggle on this issue without alienating the right-wingers that he won in the primary by being as extreme as he could on immigration. right? >> what he has done. >> go ahead. yeah. i think that's exactly right. romney has a fairly difficult map going into november. if you go back to 2000, 2004, all george bush really needs to do is hold ohio and florida because that was gore and terri's path to victory. they had to take ohio or florida. obama can win by taking ohio and florida or win by taking village and north carolina or he can win through a block of southwest states. it's there where the latino vote
is so important and romney is starting to realize, oh, god, i might have given these states away to obama so i need to break out the etch-a-sketch. >> one other issue, i think where romney is showing the etch-a-sketch is now having opposed, in writing in the "new york times," having opposed what joy bush and barack obama did to save the auto industry and now that they are back on their feet bigger and better than ever mitt romney is saying i should get the credit for that even though at the time, he said, let them die. >> i think the titles of the op-ed he wrote was "let detroit go bankrupt ". obama, and as you said george george w. bush did not let detroit gol bankrupt and now detroit is doing better than it has done in generations and all of the sudden romney wants the credit for what he opposed. >> unbelievable. thank you for your good work over there. we love the work i think
progress, faiz shaqir is a regular on our show. ian millhouser, the justice editor for think progress at the center for american progress. back -- watching this romney e volume is kind of funny. back to your calls on the primaries yesterday here from riverside. is that riverside, maryland or missouri? i can't read it. ms. you're e. robert, good morning. >> good morning. what do you think? >> well, we have the same hate amendment in our constitution too. and i was wondering. i always thought that any changes to the state or federal constitution was supposed to be for the greater good. could you tell me maybe if someone told you how discrimination is for the greater good? >> i could not. i continue explain that or
defend that what gets me all of these pastors who come out. >> basically are urging people to discriminate, which i would say is un-american and unchristian. >> well, yeah. you know, they keep talking love, love, love. i don't see any love, and i am a gay man from missouri. and i see no love coming from the left, right, whatever the hell they are supposed to be. >> all right. you have got it, robert. dlaurning for joining us this morning. geoff is in abilene, texas. hi, geoff. >> hey, bill. good morning. >> good morning to you. >> hey i was just calling about that whole north carolina yap that went down. i have been fighting for lgbt rights for so long and this was just a really sad day for our community as a whole and it seems like simplate they take,
you know two steps forward, we are taking three backwards. i knew this was going to pass north carolina. i just didn't think, you know, north carolinans would come out in such strong numbers to pass this crap. >> yeah, you know we all hoped for the best in north carolina because certainly there are elements of north carolina. i keep mentioning asheville and the great people there. but look, in charlotte, greensboro in the urban areas north carolina, i think, is trying to break out of the deep south, but obviously in the rural areas they are not ready to do so yet. it is sad, geoff and robert and all of the rest of you, all of our callers and viewers, to think about it yeah, it's great news that six states now plus the district of columbia has said, we support, we recognize and we want same-sex marriage and we will not discriminate on
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>> yeah. >> your second point? >> the second thing is that when you talk about the republicans in wisconsin >> with their deficit, i find it funny that you said that you can take a litmus test but you are against voter id. >> yeah. okay, stewart. listen, lighten up a little bit. okay? i was not seriously suggesting that they amendment the constitution of north carolina to require an intelligence test. all i am saying is that i think it's significant that the urban areas of north carolina all voted against amendment one. it carried out in the boonies. i think that says something about who is for it and who is against it. joey call from chicago.
hey, joey. >> good morning, bill. you guys hang in there. you right-wing republicans who are voting for this stuff, you better be careful who you are judging on this earth because i have got news for you. the way you are persecuting these people, you better hope the guy who is judging you ain't as hard as you are on these other people. shame on you, people. shame on you people. >> amen. amen to that. joey, i have to point out this story. i saw yesterday on bloomberg news shows you a little bit about tampa. we are talking about charlotte. be careful when it comes to tampa. now, in the convention hal in tampa guns are not permitted. not inside the convention hall but for the rest of the city of tampa, concealed weapons are allowed. the governor refused to allow thet a ban of guns in the convention. the city, itself has banned --
get this. they have banned metal knuckles mace, paintball rivals hard plastic that's more than three-quarters of an inch thick, wood that's more than a quarter of an inch thick, aerosol cans glass bottles, light bulbs, locks not attached to a bicycle hose and water guns. >> my week is ruined. >> they have been ruined during the convention but firearms have not been banned. so you can't have a water pistol. but you can have a 9 millimeter. >> an actual pistol. >> yeah. >> you can't have a paintball rival, but i guess you could have an ak-47 as long as you could conceal it somehow. this is just absolutely insane. >> peter are you still sure you want to go to tampa? >> no. i am not so sure. i don't know if i want to test that theory. maybe we should go in there strapped just to see what
happens. >> yeah. >> you also cannot -- where is that about the rope? >> yeah. >> you can't take a piece of rope more than six inches long. you don't want people hanging themselves. they don't want people hanging themselves when romney comes in. >> nuts. >> this is bill press show. unwrap your paradise. soft, sweet coconut covered in rich, creamy chocolate. almond joy and mounds. unwrap paradise.
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♪ hello, very. welcome to the full-court press. good morning. it is wednesday, may 9th. good to see you today. yeah, the full court press coming to you live from our nation's capitol and bringing you up to date on all of the big stories of the day wherever i am compil press liberal and proud of it. i am a little upset this morning because north carolina has taken a giant step backward by a vote of 60 to 40, the people of north carolina, endorsed a cogstitutional amendment to ban
same-sex marriage even though they already had a law against it. that's right. north carolina has approved a constitutional amendment to practice discrimination true to the deep south. and tell me again. why are the democrats holding their convention in charlotte north carolina this summer? 0, man, we will get into that and a whole lot more here on today's full-court press, but first, we go out to los angeles. let's get the latest today's current tv news update from jacki schechner. hi, jacki. >> hi, bill. good morning, everyone. the u.s. postal service has come up with a plan to keep hundreds of branches of post offices open, and they are going to announce it at a press conference at 10:00 a.m. this morning. the washington post reports that that plan will include reducing hours of operation among other things. postal service is about $12,000,000,000 in debt to the u.s. treasury and the senate passing a bi-partisan bill last month that ex tended their line of credit today about $11,000,000,000 more. that came with stipulations as
to how where and where offices could be closed. >> president obama is coming off of an interesting primary where 40% of democrats voted for a federal prison inmate over the president. according to the associated press, keith judd is serving time for making threats at the university of mexico in 1999. this isn't his first time running for. he ran for president in 2008 and for mayor of albuquerque back in 2007. the president didn't win the primary, of course, but he isn't likely to win west virginia this fall. back in 2008, john mccain beat him 56 to 43%. rick santorum was on jay leno to explain the whole middle of the night e-mail endorsement thing. santorum said that he wanted the e-mail to be the first thing people saw when they got up the morning and he wasn't trying to make a statement as to how he felt about mitt romney. but he did go on to say it was a difficult endorsement. if you read the letter the word
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washington, d.c.chang republican senators blocking a vote on the student loan issue. republicans said in effect we don't give a damn if the student loans double on july 1st. we want to protect all of the tax prayers for millionaires and billionaires. they are on record with that vote yesterday every single republican voted against students and for millionaires. every single one of them. actually olympia snowe voted present. she didn't have the balls to vote with the democrats on that issue. yes, we have outside of washington, d.c. big primaries we have been talking about in wisconsin and indiana and in north carolina then around the globe, just a stunning story about that double agent who is the one who prevented the
al-qaeda and yemini from pulling off another underwear bombing. lots to get into. >> that's why we have the whole team present peter okay burn and dan henning and cyprian boulding. >> hello. >> the indiana primary, i am working out my headline. it's going to be: who is your daddy? right? hoosier. >> i got it. >> or more like dick loser? right? >> pretty good. you have got to admit. >> don't quit your day job. >> keep working on it. >> a little bit pitch. >> children should be seen and not heard. >> yeah. >> right. but i will tell you dick lugar might have lost but there is a lot of talent left among the republicans in the united states
senate. you don't hear about rob portman, republican from ohio, but he's got a skill that is seldom heard around the capitol. he was on cnbc a month or so ago. nobody noticed it. here he is. >> a lot of people now point out there was an egg. >> a real egg? so the chicken came first? a chicken. you guys do you want to hear the chicken laying an egg. >> of course i do. [clucking.
>> the fact that he volunteers on national television to do the imitation of a chicken laying an egg. would you like to hear? would you like to hear the chicken laying the egg? >> he is not the first person to do that. >> there are other people? >> who imitate chickens? >> yeah. >> i don't know of anyone who would go out and imitate chickens on a t.v. show. >> no. i don't either. not on radio shows. >> a different story. ? >> i would like to hear a turkey. >> turkey? >> i think rob portman's chicken is better than my turkey. >> not as good as a chicken.
>> congressman paul tomco from new york state going to be in studio with us a little bit later. >> all right. sorry. >> this is the full court press. >> on wednesday, headlines making news in sports, a big game for texas rangers outfielder josh hamilton. he blasted four home runs against the baltimoreorials becoming the 16th player in history to hit the four homers in one game. each was a 2 run shot. the rangers did win the game 10 to 3. a hitter hitting four home rungs. unbelievable. here is the call. >> the 2, swing fly ball deep center, bracing back racing back. he did it josh hamilton has
homered for the fourth time in this game. another 2-run homerun. my goodness. he has no could in eight runs he is in a 5 lives hit game. >> unbelievable. wow. >> we should point out he is not literally superman. >> that's true. >> i want to make sure we agree on that because we are news men. >> can't have a day ending in y without celebrities lobbying for something on capital hill. no deviation from that yesterday. it was about the '80s. washington and denver reporting linda evans and linda gray met with ron widing to promote meals on wheels. they praised connecticut congresswoman rosa delo for their work on hunger issues. >> they-month-old hollywood. the show giving american idol a
big run for its money, on blake shelton's theme based upon four professional singers t christine aguilar aguilar. >> ben thank you. i am sure you are fascinated on this loh latest story on the double agent who thwarted attempts to plant -- not plant a bomb but to wear a bokmb on to an airliner headed for the united states. we have seen this story develop there were reports there could
be a threat against an american airlines and our intelligence agencies knew about this and they were taking this seriously and going to increase security at the airport. then we heard that there was an actual attempt to get somebody on a on a plane heading for the united states wearing underwear which contained a more sophisticated bomb that would would be able to get through the screening now the latest is it's taken another turn, which is a phenomenal turn, and that is just read the headlines on this morning's "new york times." airline plotter, a double agent, u.s. officials say. an intelligence coup. sawedis turned over the bomb and key data on the al-qaeda branch
in yemen. here is what we know let's talk about this and what it means in so many different -- for some many different dimensions. give them credit for that. so he agrees on this very, very dangerous mention. he goes to yemen. he contacts the al-qaeda in yemen who are now sort of the new afghanistan. >> that's where al-qaeda has moved. he has most of the operatives including aloki also killed by adrone strike. he gets in there he offers
himself up as a this famous bomb maker don't don't ask me to pronounce his name. he says he has developed a new kind of bomb that you wear in your clothing it's something that just chemicals, no metal, no nothing. this could get through thrower more sophisticated and easier to deton ate than the last one with the famous, again action underwear bomber. this guy agrees to do this they give him the bomb. he takes the bomb outside of
yemen with a plan that he is going to get on a flight for the united states on the anniversary of the it turns out he is a double agent. he turns the bomb over to saudi intel jess then hands it to the fbi. they are analyzing. and he briefs the cia and the cia is able to use his intelligence because he knows all of the major players. where they meet. he knows what time they meet. i am sure they changed their meeting places contract their movements -- they can track their movements and the cia.
this is a phenomenally incredible story and a phenomenally successful operation. and it tells me a couple of things trying to digest this and figure out what it means. false it means there are -- it's a good reminder. there are still a lot of people out there who hate us and are trying to do evil to us in any way thing. they know we are getting better at detecting them. they are at it. we can't forget that. secondly, it shows to me we have gotten a lot better at our intelligence. i mean whatever you -- whether you call it the war on terror or the war on al-qaeda or just afternoon attempt to protect
citizens here at home. we have gotten a lot better at it. we nipped this thing in the bud. we are to help you have to give the sawediz credit too. it says again man, the cia has done its job. they did a great zob a year ago in the raid on osama bin laden's compound and a great job on this one. but here is what gets me peter, imagine what a cool cucumber this guy is. i mean to go inside of al-qaeda and present yourself as a loyalist, as a brother and get them to accept you and trust you as the suicide bomber and all of the sudden time. >> it's incredible. >> totally incredible. it's right down to a john la la carre novel.
>> it's incredible that he could pull that off. >> yeah. and also, we had faith in him to be able to do something like that you know. insane. >> he could have turned out to be like a triple agent in a sense. right? >> right. they didn't detect it. right? you know it took somebody obviously from that part of the world speaking the language to go in and of course he had to stay in contact with his home base. right? but he gets the bomb and he is carrying it with him, carrying it out. now, we've got it. it's an incredible story. credit to our intelligence agents and the department of homeland security and the f.b.i. and anybody else who was involved in this. job well done for once saying something good.
>> that's awesome! ♪ >> this is bill press show live on your radio and current tv. >> 845 minutes after the hour. we are on the full-court press, wednesday, with media matters for america in the next segment in studio with us. right now, we are talking about this incredible story of the double agent who infiltrated al-qaeda in yemen, volunteered
to be a suicide bomber. he was taken up on it. they fitted him with a sophisticated new underwear bomb that could not be detected even with a patdown at an airport. he turned the bomb over to the soud sawedi intelligence which turned it over to the fbi and cia. roger is calling from alameda, california. early on the west coast. >> hi, bill. you know, bill what bothers me is that knowing that for the next six months we are going to hear mitt romney talk about how tough he and the republican party are on terrorists and how they protect our national security. last time i checked, george bush and dick cheney presided over 9-1-1, whereas barack obama has effectively gotten bin laden and a heck of a lot of important members of al-qaeda they could name by name. i remember when george bush was in office over and over and
over again, without mentioning the guy's name. >> don't forget, roger, that in that briefing, george bush got on august the 6th at his ranch, al-qaeda intends to conduct strikes inside the united states. what are they talking about? >> i would like to get your opinion on. bill. i respect your opinion but i am a pretty intelligent guy. i honestly came to the conclusion as and we are take talking now george bush and dick cheney decided to look the other way around 9-1-1 and to use it for political purposes. have you ever entertained that idea? >> first of all, i think bush responded well and brought the country together for a very brief period of time after september 11th. and i supported the retaliation against afghanistan to get al-qaeda inside of afghanistan at the time. but then shortly they turn around and first of all, exploit it 9-1-1, absolutely did and
loudly themselves to get totaly sidetrack, gave up on bin laden and went into this unnecessary war, illegal war in my opinion in iraq. mike calling from chicago. what do you say, mike? >> yes, sir. >> it's all good congratulations on your show first of all,. >> thank you. >> i wouldn't to point out, bill, that i think it's important to know that this double agent is one example of how beautiful america is by having a melting pod. i mean we all, as americans, you know i mean this guy has blond hair and blue eyes. >> obviously he was not an american citizen but it also points out the importance of having good strong allies around the world that we can work with. >> this is the bill press show.
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>> our side, you know progressive watchdog for media matters for america and we welcome back katie paris the senior vice president of media matters. we let her go last week because she had a little vacation due. >> it is nice to be back. >> good to have you back. >> good to see you. >> if you are a republican candidate these days, you can't start your campaign without 6th avenue and 58th street. >> why do they need to know that? >> the little bill there. newscorp. >> roger ailes? right. >> yeah. my colleague wrote a book about him that came out this year the fox effect.
yeah, it was interesting. an article documenting how republican leadership and republicans running for office in this country, you know, roger ailes who is head of the fox news network is up there in new york. the republican party, you better make a stop by. it's more important actually than any big donor, which makes sense. political fox news what we are talking about here is that fox news isn't a neighborhood foundation. it's a political operation. what you have in roger ailes and what makes sense what follows is that he acts like a political consultant, not actually the head of a news organization. >> but that's what he is. >> that's exact right. >> that's exactly right. >> that's his background. you know, usually people who head news organizations, you know, they are news men.
>> that's the background but ailes has decades, going back to the nixon white house as a political aide and very interesting, this reminded me and talking to some of my staff yesterday, you know, to come out. this is how it was all set up in the nixon white house, back in the '70s. it was a plan for putting the g.o.p. on t.v. it's to create a news disi am nation organization, avoid sensorship, priorities priorities and prejudices of network news. : here we have today fox news and set it up in the beginning to operate exactly as it is and today we have fox news. it's not just, you know, a little bit liens to the right but actually is a political operation we are talking on
mention, globalization, money, the amount of money, this free air time is worse for these candidates is all on air, you know, have their platform questions, clean up any messes they need to take care of. >> that's where you go. >> so what better way to get republicans on national television than to create your own channel and basically turn it over to the rnc? the democratic national committee has a little radio at their headquarters. a little radio studio and there is a room where you can go and get hooked up to do an interview if you are the democratic national chair or whatever. the republicans, how do you channel? it is the media arm of the republican national committee. >> that's right. that's right. and it's interesting to recently, ailes is interviewed by the media critic for cnn. he basically admitted that fox
news is about to make mainstream network. so, you know it's not that their purpose is to give all sides. the right-wing megaphone. >> during this primary campaign we saw that of course they are always part of the obama hate machine. right? >> yeah. >> mentioning obama anyway thing. >> yes. >> in the primary, we saw that both mitt romney -- i'm sorry. newt gingrich and rick santorum who used to be fox contributors until they were running for president, both of them complained that the network was favoring mitt romney. so as far as i know, in the
primary, for romney now? >> sure. >> chris christie for a time. >> yeah. all around. romney is the only one who has a chance so as a network we better start helping them out. romney was on hannity. he has been on hannity countless times. every time you turn around, there he is. >> certainly. look. fox news will be a reliable platform for mitt romney in this election cycle. >> as it was for sarah palin. >> roger ailes sees obama as a disaster and like the republican party, his top priority is making sure he doesn't have a second term. he has political operations. a lot of power. he is going to use it to do all he can to try to defeat president obama. yeah, you are right. he has things like sean hannity's show last night, romney goes on for an interview.
you know, it was real media interview on an actual news organization. so what's up with this whole let detroit fail and good morning wouldn't exist today? what's up with the foreign policy where he says russia is our top threat and we should stay in iraq and maybe we shouldn't have spent that money going after bin laden. with romney we could have a situation where gm was dead and bin laden was alive. you are not going to have any accountability for positions like that. it's, you know, gop talking .1 after another, and, you know, whether it's class warfare or obama. he is may be a comie. ignoring all of the job creation we have had over 26 consecutive months. obama has a long road back but we are moving forward. you are not going to hear that. you can even hear this ridiculous, absurd talking point originated by new york post over the weekend criticizing obama's
trip to afghanistan. he spoke to the troops on the anniversary of bin laden's death that they are spiking the football, mission accomplished moment. this is the president who the al-qaeda is on the run, bin laden is dead and they are trying to create the anniversary of bin laden's death to what became a mockery, unfortunately of president bush president bush's totals failure in iraq by claiming mish accomplished. >> again, anything is on the table. we are talking with katie paris, fox news in the media in general. your calls welcome 86655 press. the latest thing i have heard, katie, is one other thing that's any time obama gets something going, right, the right-wing media comes on fox news and tries to undo it. obama is making a lot of headway on the fact upon tax fairness like something like 807% of the american people support
millionaires and billionaires paying their fair share. >> republicans. >> we should call it the buffett rule because warren buffed says it didn't take make sense for me to pay a lower rate than my secretary. now they are trying to undermine warren buffett and say he is a phone. >> they had an ongoing campaign since warren buffett said, this isn't right. >> so what they actually do is try to create a new reality. i mean we just had it this week with media matters.org. we have it on our website right now showing on fox news they trying to presented tend warren buffett doesn't support the buffett rule. it's based on warren buffett's principled standard, you know, lots of other millionaires standing up, too. >> a couple in the studio. >> you have. they are saying it's not right that the middle class families working hard struggling out there are paying a higher tax rate than i am.
>> that's just not the america we want. >> that's not the america we want for our kids. they are thinking about the future thinking about their kids and the whole next generation and they are -- >> what evidence do they have that warren buffett -- >> it's distortion based upon an interview from cnbc where if you look at what buffett says he says, yeah this is right in mind with the principles i am standing for. it's what they do well. >> well, that's why we are here and that's why you are there, to tell the truth. katie paris from mediamatters.org. check it out every day. we do because they listen to rush limbaugh on, you know, michael savage and sean hannity and all of the rest of them so we don't have to. >> a huge favor. right? >> exactly. what a public service and then they tell us the truth, katie paris here with us your calls welcome at 866-55-press.
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home, income at home.com keith we have lots to talk about. so to our viewers and listeners. should we say hello to a couple? >> that would be great. >> we will start with warrens calling from buffalo grove illinois. >> i'm sorry. what is it? >> noreen. i'm sorry. hi, noreen. >> hi, bill. i am good. thank you. i listen to you every day i do mean to say as a progressive listening to you, especially the topics this morning talk about the right-wing talking points and everything they are talking about, they are getting our message out there. get our message out. >> a good point. we are doing i was withpom, i think i talked about it the last
couple of days in columbus and richmond and he certainly got the message out very very loud and clear. bur i think part of it too, and you can speak to this indicatey exposing the lies of the other side because people are too inclined to believe him. >> i think that's right. but also also agree with noreen. i think we have to not only stop the lies but we have to be delivered -- deliver our message. we need to speak to people's values, driving the conversation. you know i often think and sometimes progressives get frustrated because they feel like wait. folks agree with us on the issues. why aren't we winning this issue? i think maybe sometimes it's because of what noreen is saying. we don't focus enough on strongly, forcefully and really connecting with people's values and where they are. >> that's why we do what we do as progressives. it's where our values come from. it's about justice. is it good for us? and making sure every american
has a fair shot, a fair shake. >> look. >> that's why it's important to media matters. they are important as well. we are starting to build a messages machine that can compete and that's why people like me and stephanie miller and tom hartman and david sirota out in colorado and as i mentioned tom hart and randy rhodes are out there. we are starting to get a message machine going. they still have to -- they overwhelm us, i think, in that area. so my feeling is, we've got to get our message out, yes. i try to do that every day. also, when mitt romney says i deserve credit for the auto bail-out. >> sure. >> you have to point out that this joker opposed what george bush and barack obama were doing to help the auto industry and when he says now that i am not sure about where i stand on immigration, he doesn't point out that he said he would vitaed 0 the dream act -- veto the dream act. >> you have to do both and strongly stand for our principles, you know. and when you are talking about
any of those things, make clear, you know, where the president was on the bail out. he rescued the auto industry. don't be ashamed of saying exactly what happened. >> it's his baby. the white house points out that he would have been -- if he had followed the polls on that, he would have done nothing because it was politically very unpopular. this is wayne, i believe. yeah, wayne calling from dallas, texas. hi, wayne. >> good morning, bill. how are you doing? >> i am doing good. thanks for joining us. >> a very, very interesting topic this morning. i have been following fox since 2001, and, i am just curious. i wanted to ask the lady from media matters how does fox get away with calling themselves a legitimate news organization if they report inaccurately and basically, to be honest with you, they flat-outly.
>> what do you think katie? how do they get away with it? >> i don't think they are getting away with it anymore. this is america. you can get away with an awful lot, you know, free speech and amen for that but this is also a country where we have accountability. and so that's why angorganization like media. you are going to be there every day holding their feet to the fire. there are folks like wayne out there saying enough. any platform you can get to say, that's not news. >> that's politics, you know, to speak the truth. we are here to be there every day for you. media matters.org, katie paris. they may claim they are a legitmat news organization. every time they do, you slap them down. >> pretty. >>. >> pretty much. >> good job. thank you for coming up this morning. see you again soon. when we come back, i will tell
>> on this wednesday may 9th, my quick parting shot for today, you don't generally hear me the political demise of a republican but it's sad to see dick lugar lose that senate primary yesterday in indiana. sad because he was the kind of republican we don't see much of any more who is willing to work with democrats to solve problems and the republican nominee now richard mourdoch is another one like rand paul who will make it more impossible to get things done in the senate. >> that's the bad news. the good news is there is a great, strong democrat by the name of joe donnelly now running in indiana, and now it is possible to pick up that seat for democrats. so go joe donnelly. and we will be back tomorrow with chairman john conniers and with comedian will durst. make it a great one. come back and see us here on the full-court press tomorrow. >> this is the bill press show.