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there's very little new in the mostly it's a reemphasizing some of the things he had said before. they are some signs. concessions are possible in areas like payments into the financial perspective. but in the end it is still very very without any concrete offer on the table. also on the program as germany enters its final day of campaigning ahead of sunday's federal election we ask how the country's angry of voters might affect the final outcome. now turning to that briggs it speech it was a conservatory speech aimed at break breathing new life into the stall brigs at negotiations speaking in the italian city of florence british prime minister to reason made trying to cast the process of separation in a positive light she made concessions proposing a two year transition after breaks it during which britain would continue to abide
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by e.u. rules and contribute to the blocs budget she also sought to calm the fears of europeans who live in britain and brits who live in u. . denied a vote denied a voice the u.k. prime minister to resign may's visit to florence has brought these british citizens together the majority live in italy and their concerns are plentiful pensions their future status in the european union and the u.k.'s relationship with the e.u. just a few of the major points to dog regs are negotiations. but yeah i think it's just down to clarifying what's going on. how it's going to affect everybody. you know i mean the u.k. but also in europe as well and i'm really really a fan of that and i let the brits in at. times and earlier in the play you know what the hell is going on. over here we've been to show them we are a priority well it's wearing a bit. near by and amid tight security may arrive for what would be
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a lengthy attempt at breaking the deadlock in bragg's of talks which are set to resume on monday since u.k. voters cast their ballots in june twenty sixth dean and decided to leave the union london has been in a boxing ring with brussels both sides drawing punches over a range of issues migration being one of the most divisive to the six hundred thousand italians in the u.k. and indeed to all citizens who have made their lives in our country that we want you to stay with the you and we thank you for your contribution to our national life. and it has been and remains one of my first goals in this negotiation to ensure that you can carry on living your lives as before it may address the range of issues notably her hopes for a strong bond between the u.k. and the e.u. but let's think creatively let's beyond bishops about what we can achieve because as i said we start from an unprecedented position in terms of our current
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relationship with you we remember we're coming out but that enables us to build a different sort of partnership for the future may speech has been met with a cautious welcome in the u. the iconic flag of europe punctuated with gold stars is still very much a symbol of unity democracy and freedom for many british citizens march twenty nine thousand will signal the beginning of the end for britain's e.u. membership. and with me now in the studio david charter who reports for the london times here from berlin and you also based in brussels a little bit earlier just been telling you david i want to look at content first in the speech it is being criticized as a bit low on detail what's your take on the speech well as you know the talks in brussels have not been going very well between britain and the european union about the divorce deal which is why of course the europeans were hoping for some more detail proposals exactly and they are scheduled to resume next week and so this
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speech was probably the wrong place to look for very very granular details of what the reason is done as address the three key issues in the talks but only briefly so the subject of the irish border she said she doesn't want to physical border and that was it no further detail the subject of the payments she said britain will honor its commitments but that's a bit vague you know to find a commitment in a new direction exactly and then the status of e.u. citizens in britain and british citizens in the ear. you she said actually used the word guarantee that e.u. citizens would be able to continue living their lives as they do now in britain which again is very warm and welcome words but not really the fine detail any and exactly how it's going to happen and the many complications that arise around that you know such as family reunion and travel and once you really get into the detail but that's it wasn't the place for the that now has to be delivered in the talks
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next week so this speech was more about mood about building bridges to brussels it was very much about mood but it was also we learned several important things and absolutely crucial was this two year transition periods which you mentioned that's absolutely vital for all those businesses who are totally unclear about how this brics it is going to work out for them as i recall a nervous virgins knows and yes so if the brussels side agrees then the brics that process effectively takes four years rather than the two years that's planned in the official treaty britain will leave the european union in march twenty ninth again but will effectively remain in all of its programs for trade in the single markets and free movements of people for another two years just a quick word about reaction in britain you know how are the hardliners the braggart is reacting to the speech are they screaming blue murder well i think they were
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prepared to i think i've seen some early reaction which suggested well it's a betrayal of people who voted to leave because they want to leave right now but i've also seen some more thoughtful reaction from some very hard line breaks it is peter bone a conservative backbench m.p. was a very tough bricks a to m.p. he's content with the plan that's been laid out because it gives an assurance of some stability. leaving process but that britain is leaving on march twenty ninth twenty nineteen david i want to focus on something that may i was saying in terms of the trade relationship between the u.k. and the e.u. she talked a lot about being creative that was a word she used a great deal she called for something that goes beyond anything that already exists for instance the recent free trade agreement the e.u.
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sealed with canada which is going to listen to her argument how she builds her argument listen to this as for a canadian style free trade agreement we should recognize that this is the most advanced free trade agreement the e.u. has yet concluded and a breakthrough in trade between canada and the e.u. but compared with what exists between britain and the e.u. today it would nevertheless represent such a restriction on our mutual market access that it would benefit neither of our economy is not only that it would start from the false premise that there is no preexisting regulator the relationship between us and president suggests that it could take years to negotiate. we can do so much better than this. david we can do so much better you know don't you think there are people in brussels who are saying this is the exactly the kind of delusional thinking that is getting in the way of progress in these negotiations or britain britain wanting to
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leave the e.u. but still retain all the advantages of being a member well it would be delusional if britain as you said wanted to retain all the advantages with none of the responsibilities or the financial costs but that's not really what i heard today and i think the position is becoming a bit more realistic of course britain's deal with the e.u. has got to be better than canada's we have been in the single market for over forty years we're right next door with a we're going to be the biggest trading partner so it's going to be a deal which has to for the be better than canada because canada doesn't have a very good access for services it's not in the european single sculler of course it's not it's in north america and and british airlines would like to be able to fly around the european single sky so there are many things which currently exist
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that have to be replicated which are way beyond the kind of the deal ok now expert reaction in brussels has been quite caustic we're going to listen to one of those experts fabienne zelig head of the european policy center that his reaction. i think it will disappoint and frustrate the leaders who certainly in the briefings would say you leaders have received in the run up to the speech there was an expectation that more would be served but more signals of concessions would be coming so i would guess that in the end this just cements the view of the leaders of the u.k. is no longer able to come to a coherent position on brics that. ok so one very disappointed expert speculating about some disappointed in you leaders will have to see whether they really are disappointed but do you think that to reason may speech will have a serious effect on energizing effect on the brakes and go she asians i think it
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was a step in the right direction but not a huge step and it really depends on what happens in the room next week when david davis the minister in charge of negotiating the brics deal with the e.u.'s lead negotiator michel barnier when they get together next week there has to be some more detail on these warm words but as we've discussed not a great detail amount of detail from the prime minister so there has to be now a breakdown of exactly what course we're going to pay to leave when we leave the european union ok david many thanks for that background david just up from the london times. turning to germany now where voters are gearing up for sunday's federal election both candidates for the post of chancellor have been making a final push for votes the latest polls have been encouraging for challenger martin
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shorts and his center left social democrats they're trailing chancellor angela merkel's christian democrats by of wide margin surveys suggesting her conservative bloc is likely to take around thirty six percent of sunday's vote. well as the campaigning draws to a close our correspondents have been out and about covering the final rallies. became the cousineau monitoring events in munich for instance where chancellor merkel has been speaking i asked her about the choice of venue and the mood in the bearing capital. this isn't to decide between the c.d.u. c.s.u. . was easy enough to see the german sponsor even though i mean what is very much on usually get me to show you is he is going to. find us that there are several thousand people turning out to support the germans also at the same time we see people chanting. when with machall we see that whistling not happening that is so you become the fog of this campaign that is the campaign of the time and saw the
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recent weeks these are very few people i must say the problem doesn't have you know with whistles who are clearly identifiable as honestly the this is. going on was making a lot of you know was not also you know it was the night of the c.s.u. call to you was the part of the magazine it was a couple of minutes ago ignore a sunset then that this was about democratic debate this shouldn't be about the war just sounds around but it didn't sound once again the germans are. basically one of the noise. to get across the message went over this many undecided voters who syrians are many less than twenty four we actually know how these elections played out. you know these mckayla coup for reporting from munich. one of our other correspondents political correspondents has been all over germany. campaign
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trail with various candidates fabienne fun a mock with me in the studio. a wall of noise mccain low was talking about that we've been seeing the rallies. over the last few weeks really you know is that typical of the mood that you've been encountering on the campaign trail as well. it is quite typical in the last couple of weeks and months and it was actually quite surprising to realize that this is the mood outside this burdened bubble where we as corresponds normally are and the campaign started rather normal almost boring some people said and then we realized that if anglo-american goes somewhere to the countryside on the marketplaces meet the people that there are those angry loud protestors and that was something that we didn't have in the last election comes again i mean that's pretty new really for german electioneering isn't it it is
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pretty new i mean back in the days of him would cause we had protesters like that as well but they were usually from the left wing group but this time right wing protesters far right protesters this is something you have to say would be good also said it's a minority the huge majority of these places squares is still pro-american but it shows in the way a divided society with the percentage of people that are really angry ok well we're going to give our viewers a taste of that voter anger now a couple of voices that you recorded while he was out on the campaign trail let's listen to what they have to say. he's done nothing for jim and just for announced. you know what i'm really concerned i want my country to be safe i want thank you will borders so we know here we're letting in. so two german voters at chancellor one of chancellor angela merkel's rallies. expressing that
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dissatisfaction you know tell us tell us more about what they are angry about. it's quite interesting actually that there is a core that brings these people together and that is the refugee policy of anglo-american but the two people that we just saw for example the woman with the red hair she was in the east she was an openly a f.t. supporting person you have to be the all to germany yes the. immigration party anti islam party exactly that this party and she said when i continue talking to her that was just like a part of our conversation is that the germans we have to wait for furniture or for for flat if we need something that like poor germans they have to wait forever and the foreigners they come and they are treated like kings and that was basically what she was saying so they left felt left out and not as well treated as the refugees for example the other woman she was rather unsatisfied with the way the
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anglo american has treated the refugee policy for her that was a car take style with opening the borders without really checking who is coming into the country and she said that she felt insecure but this is really. reoccurring pattern this refugee policy is. still a problem for america they're coming back to the f.t. they will turn to for germany the right wing populist party they have been reports that the f.t. have been organizing groups of hecklers that travel around to anglo-american. rallies is there substance to that yes that's true i mean there were many different groups at the rallies not only from the f.t. but also from other far right groups and it is true that the f.t. has organized bus trips to the various rallies but it's not as if the same fifty people were just. drove driven around the whole of germany and been to different
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places they were also local people i have been to three of. the locations with there were different people. and there were just also people that just lived there and came there to protest against genuine locals as they are not people who were bussed in and you know some commentators are describing the mood of germany's election as calm on the surface but scratch a little bit of the surface away and it's bubbling with anger underneath with is that accurate i think it's in a way true yes i mean in general you have to see that most germans are quite satisfied with their economical situation with the really low unemployment in germany more than seventy percent would say that they are satisfied with their situation but then there is this percentage ten fifteen percent hard to say how many are really who believe that there is an elite deciding among the.
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putting decisions. of the timing of that. there have been exactly that they have also strongs you know four big feelings and that they also maybe because of the grand coalition feel that there is not really a no turn it if and put it is they just do what they won and that's just one big kargil and particularly if you go for example to social media you find a lot of this anger and now it was also visible on these squares and when you talk to c.d.o. come painters for example they say when they go from door to door they experience a lot of these angry people that say i have voted for the c.d.u. but this time i will go for the a.f.d. for the far right protest party because i wasn't happy with anglo-american refugee policy and this anger in the countryside shall we say how do you think it's going to affect the final outcome on sunday you know us in the berlin bubble as you mentioned as you called it a few minutes ago are we going to are we in for
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a big surprise on sunday. it's possible i think it's still in both ways possible we could still be surprised that maybe this group of people was now over we presented in the media and that the end of the day it is just a five to seven percent group that you have everywhere in every country basically or even bigger ones but it could also be that the a if do you would get twelve thirteen percent i wouldn't be really surprised that could happen many say that they would end up as the third biggest party and that would certainly be a huge change for the political culture in germany ok for me and many thanks for that fascinating talking to d w five ian from emma. in the run up to sunday's vote here in germany there has been much discussed.


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