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do you buy your tomatoes in the supermarket. as we go about our daily life human rights oh often the last thing on the. invisible hands. slavery in the twenty first century. starting december second on d w. a deadlock in coalition talks has europe's beacon of stability and its chancellor gripped by political uncertainty the clock is ticking and still no new german government i'm sorry kelly in berlin this is the day.
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the all. of building a government for germany is such an important one does it's worth the effort. of the one hundred issues that we need to discuss we've only discussed two so far and we got stuck on the third one. and you haven't we haven't reached a single decision on a single problem. because it's now exact time it's like football. if i collapse out of exhaustion it makes no sense anymore. and also coming up on the program the u.s. administration says that it will lift a ban on importing hunted animal trophies more coming up on that a little bit later in the show but first the high stakes haggling over germany's
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next government is and over time tired and tense negotiators have been back at the table after a self-imposed deadline passed i'm going to merkel has been trying to form a government with the pro-business free democrats and the greens there is little common ground for the unlikely bedfellows but there is no other option for the german chancellor if the parties cannot work together she could face a fresh election that is likely to further weaken her position and it could even cost her the chancellor e. another round of difficult talks at the c.d.u. party headquarters the negotiators are coming off a long night with no concrete results much is at stake for you to reach an agreement could mean new elections but chancellor merkel says she's determined not to let that happen villain despite all the difficulties in these negotiations i am determined to form a government as mandated by germany's vote as they definitely won't be easy it'll
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definitely be hard but it's worth going into a second round of talks one that by in a while so that in this enormous. we all realize we have to make compromises everyone. so far that hasn't happened enough. this is especially applies to those who declare to the outside world that they're making all sorts of concessions but from what i say mommy sit down together they're not going to get some of the. remarks clearly aimed at germany's green party is a hoffa c.s.u. in the greens are at loggerheads on many key issues including migration and energy policy. but what we can't allow is that someone says i want discussed that you know everyone has to negotiate otherwise the talks don't make any sense in. the fourth player in the negotiations germany's liberal f.d.p. are also set on a positive outcome he's a consulate's a new coalition at
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a federal level in germany could mean a new beginning in terms of policy. and we hope very much as free democrats that the other parties are bold enough to try it and. the four parties had hoped to have already finished with negotiations but with one self-imposed deadline now missed many expect there to be moved long nights ahead. let's get more now on these negotiations we're joined in the studio by political scientist christophe when he joins us here in the studio as i mentioned you're from the free university in berlin and thanks for being here thank you for having me. what would you say why is this been so complicated forming a coalition between these three parties it's new ground normally we had two parties now we have three arguably with the way the c.d.u. and to see as you have been arguing with each other even for parties. so just the sheer number of parties is higher but also the overlap in terms of policies is
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become much smaller than what it used to be there are some red lines that the s.t.p. does not want to cross there are some red lines the green party doesn't want to cross that c.d.u. c.s.u. don't want to cross that immigration and so forth and that makes it very hard to come to an agreement i want to talk a little bit more about one of those red lines because we see one of them very starkly between the greens and anglo-american sister party the c.s.u. the variance especially when it comes to issues like migration and climate do you see any chance of compromise there. it's hard to say i think what we cannot underestimate is the level of pressure both of these parties are on from their own base to see as he was facing. state level election the green party has parts of its own base that are very very critical even of these coalition so they will have to sell it not just to each other but also to their own base that being said maybe there is room for agreement i mean the green party has already moved quite
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a bit on certain things like immigration. and may be if there is some level of give and take here agreement is possible after all but it's we saw german chancellor angela merkel she set a deadline in fact of thursday night for this coalition talks the deadline is obviously come and gone how badly have these talks weakened her position as a leader i think they have weakened her somewhat but i think more to the point of showing the weakness that has already been building beforehand i think she has held back quite a bit in these negotiations she has done what she always. which is stand back mediate. trying to stay above the fray but i think this approach has not worked for us so well anymore and i think now in these last final hours she will have to be a lot more active to sort of reclaim some of that ground let's go through a different case scenarios first the case scenario which is not favorable for her
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that is the fact in the case that they are not able to form a coalition what do you see happening in that case well there is too technical possibilities on the one hand we could have a minority government for the first time but i don't think that that is very desired either by the voters or by the parties the other is really new elections so we will actions how do those shake out. it's hard to see the winners and who's the loser who are the who's there is it's difficult to say if you look at polling data right now basically a new election would be exactly like the old election so a couple of months down the line we'll find ourselves exactly where we are now but of course elections have a habit of shaking things up a little bit and i think depending on who gets blamed for the failure of the coalition talks none of the current parties who are negotiating will come out looking well so this will favor the outsiders day the far right party but also
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maybe the s.p.d. and dealing go to let's go for the case scenario which is perhaps more favorable for america right now that is in the case that she is able to form this coalition is it viable candies parties work together i mean they've never done so on the national level before it will be tricky but i do think that if the agreement can be reached and if the bases are on board. it will be political suicide for any of those parties to torpedo and undermine the coalition i think what greater danger is that depending on the policies that do in the end get implemented that maybe voters do not like the coalition so much. and more the cloud of uncertainty that has been hanging over the german government just generally speaking i mean four weeks of political talk still no government in sight what has that done to germany's position in the european union what has it done to germany's position in the world i think for the time being things still look ok i mean she still can attend
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international events but of course german leadership does look weaker now. we have seen this already with talks about great the e.u. integration and regardless of how these coalition negotiations shake out they will probably not go ahead as planned and i do think that may undermine german prestige in the long run so i want to thank you very much for joining us this evening to share a little bit of your insights on these coalition talks which as we mentioned they are and over time still no consensus to be found and certainly no sign of it kristoff now when political scientists from the free university in berlin we appreciate. the game's up that is the message to zimbabwe as president from the country's influential war veterans but despite last week's military takeover robert mugabe is resisting pressure to resign even from his own party mr mugabe has been under house arrest for the past few days but on friday he made his first public appearance since the takeover. surrounded by
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security robert mugabe attends a graduation ceremony on the outskirts of the capital harare his presence is tradition but given that he's been under house arrest many were surprised to see him the press reported that my guy who normally travels in a luxury vehicle escorted by a large motorcade arrived in a civilian come. in a statement made on national television earlier the military said it was engaging with mugabe. is also released photos showing a meeting zimbabwe's army chief and two south african envoys who had flown in to mediate reports suggest robert mugabe is refusing to give up the presidency. tanks have been occupying key positions around the capital since the military takeover but there's been no violence and the situation is quiet. i was scared because i thought the army was going to cause havoc but as you can see it's peaceful in the
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country. now which is where it's business as usual. and we just. we are. we were fearful at first but now everything is normal and it's business as usual. macabre has ruled zimbabwe for nearly forty years analysts suggest the military takeover was to prevent my guy from handing power to his wife grace she has not been seen since the military took control. and for more on the situation in the country let's bring in zimbabwean journalist ray and joe who just joining us from the capital harare so the fact that mugabe was able to leave the house today attend a ceremony how do you think that we should interpret that is the military changing
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their position that he must resign. well thank you for having me. i think agree that it is the symbol in the protégé sion of events of to day signify the fact that i can appreciate the fact that the military is simply trying to continue we've. identified almost three given the situation which we find ourselves in for and you're also remember that president obama covered you'd actually be chancellor of all state universities and so by having him martin give graduation ceremony or to simply transfer a message to the world in three or four hundred large accepted business as usual which is what the minister would like to send out absolutely and we want to get a little bit more about that message that the military would like to send out i want to play a sound bite from the head of the influential war veterans association and then get your take along there after on what he had to say have a listen there's no way that. the mobile.
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or his way of what is it will be it. is a public people of. the. we don't want to be disposable gold. so a message there implying that there could be civil unrest if there is a restoration of the old order how afraid do you think that people are that this could end up in violence. i don't think that any fear in our at the moment or in the country in general. and the fear of links to it and outbreak of violence in fact it's actually the opposite that. a lot of excitement in the. people a feeling that something's about to happen this march that has been called tomorrow by the war veterans something that you are looking for today and people have been
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biased and having transportation from different parts of the country to attend these must leave you know arch pool of people which are both of been given the green light by the military that is long as follows the lay down rules in the constitution they fully support it so in fact you know no fear. of some sort of on risk of breaking out you know but on the other hand people excited and hoping that tomorrow would show a new dawn and see prison report mcgovern finally hearing the voice of the people and the people actually being heard for the very first time in in the nearly four decades of who let's talk a little bit more about that voice of the people because we know that there were protests last year they were focused on where pression poor government economic crisis are these still the biggest problems in the country today. but i still remain very much. big problems and zoom up with faces but i think right now the
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attitude that most people that i've spoken to is to take it one day at a time and deal with what they can deal prison and the current focus and attention by and large that we need to get to prison report out and you know the military has intervened for the first time you know prison mugabe's looking very weak to the weakest in fact that his rule is if i look in that period you know but it does not last on people's minds you know that it they are much things to grapple with but i think after thirty seven years really this is what that without focusing on and saying look if we can get him out you know then we can get to the next stage and the next stage and the next stage it's more or less like releasing it one day at a time and really focus with this current situation that faces the country but there are so many if that i mean one of only one of them is if he will resign the other is that every potential successor of mugabe right now would basically have
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been an integral part of his decades long regime so what mugabe's departure bring any real change to the country do you think. i think you. are quite significant in fact regard because you know you know that he's pursued a very hard line stance against foreign governments especially within the government you know he's refused to back down under oath as of indigenization very much seen as being on a t.m.i. too attracting investment in the month of ford and it seems mother read equaling backwards and losing traction as. an economy to clear within the region so the sense in the fitting that drug use is very old time is done you can do anything significant we can fail to have done you know thirty seven in that there are seven years that he's been in power so they have a feeling that you can live having someone else different or from sort of trying to please an old boy which can take charge of the country live long as it can provide some sort of you know present in the room or from leg room for the baldwins of
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headed up you know right to the nose with president mugabe so be it range over with the very latest from zimbabwe where you are a journalist we thank you very much for speaking with us this evening. in the. animal rights groups are criticizing u.s. president donald trump's administration for announcing that it will allow the importation of body parts from african elephants shot for sport in zimbabwe and zambia the move will reverse a prohibition imposed under former president barack obama the administration says that the trophy hunting will help conservation efforts by raising money for programs the world's largest land animals known for being intelligent and social but they're also classified as threatened that's why conservationists furious at the trumpet ministrations decision to allow hunters to bring elephant
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trophies into the u.s. elephants are in dangerous decline and it's outrageous that the trouble ministration is greenlighting trophy hunters to go into zimbabwe and kill elephant . floated for the tusks poaching is the main reason for the decline in elephant populations the obama administration banned imports of legally hunted ivory and other elephant parts in two thousand and fourteen now the ban is being overturned and the u.s. fish and wildlife service claims this will protect the endangered species allowing hunters to kill the animals would raise money for conservation. the agency also says zimbabwe are able to manage hunting quotas and track revenues. but conservationists are questioning the timing zimbabwe is in the midst of a political coup its government is an upheaval it's in crisis and we know from in times of up people that poaching increases and there's no way for the government to
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effectively manage hunting much less rain in poaching. a growing number of countries including china and singapore abounding the trade in ivory campaign is fear the white house decision is a setback in global efforts to protect endangered wildlife. and joining me now from san francisco is peter knights executive director with the environmental organization wild day peter thanks so much for being with us. i just want to begin by drilling into the logic of the u.s. fish and wildlife service based say that large songs which are paid for permits to hunt the animals that they could actually help them by what they say putting much needed revenue back into conservation what do you make of that argument. yeah i think the piece was conflating two different things while me is the
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commercial ivory trade which is proved to be an absolute disaster for elephants or for the us and the other is trophy hunting which might not sound very different but in fact it is a different drive economically people on sick want to spend for the trophy they're not commercializing those trophies and this is been part of conservation for many many the fish and wildlife well actually only they would undo it up than they'd actually restricted only zimbabwe and zambia whereas other countries like south africa and it may be aware allowed to export not ivory for commercial purposes but trophy hunting let's talk a little bit more than about the trucking on because you said that that is the case which is the political here why has the u.s. been allowing elephant hunting trophies in south africa and. in the maybe as you mentioned but not zimbabwe and zambia where there's been a question of the management in those countries so the management has been in better shape so if the south africa for example most their parts are actually fenced or out they've had very little coaching going on they've had very good idea
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of the numbers about since they've had and they've set quotas that reflect those numbers so you know if you have a thinks about white house about eighty thousand out and says saying only five hundred only that they'll allow to kill the trophy i'm saying so it's all about the question of how well managed is it's and in many cases where hunting has been well managed has actually helped conservation exploited revenue for n.z. poaching and things like that it's not always the case but that they make is fine because they feel that sense zimbabwe now has axed its act together on this however i do agree with the earliest speak of that given that the state of politics in zimbabwe this might not be very good timing to open this up again but in principle though you seem to be agreeing with the logic if i'm understanding you correctly that if it were managed correctly that it would put money back into conservation can you give us any examples of where that has worked. it's worked in south africa is largely the south africa model it's worked here in the united states where money sprigs on from duck hunting has gone back into acquisition of habitat and indeed
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earliest conservation efforts most of the national parks it up were originally so there is a strong tradition of hunting within conservation no matter i mean because the icon is done well and you won't want to shoot one of these animals but it has been providing revenue for conservation in africa and if we want to get away with hunting we've got to find other ways to generate revenue to protect these animals ok let's talk about the other aspect that you are talking about the two that you say are often conflated them they should not be that is the fact that there is this commercial ivory trade and we understand that your work it actually focuses on reducing the demand for these animals how exactly do you do that and is that really the key to conservation what you say. absolutely well we have to map for a point of view the problem is being commercial ivory trade which has led to the poaching up to thirty three thousand elephants a year and we've been working in countries like china. and taiwan to basically try to persuade the governments that stop the legal trite which has been used to
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the low end illegal ivory and so there's been great success there all those countries are now ending the commercial ivory trade and the demands gone down considerably so the price of ivory has gone down from around two thousand dollars a kilo to three of four hundred dollars a kilo now so it's definitely working the seizures going into china down by eighty percent last year so we're definitely seeing great progress on this and that's the illegal trade the poaching the commercial trite as opposed to trophy hunting i'm hearing a bit of optimism in your voice is is that correct i mean are you optimistic about the survival of these animals about their state. well we've seen already these effects of the reducing price of ivory has led to poaching go down by about fifty five percent in tanzania in the last year seventy five percent in kenya and that's been a combination of besharam forces on the ground but also reduction in the market and consumption so traditionally conservations been all about protecting and was in the wild but we've now started to impact the markets and we've seen great results from
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impact in those markets and the reduction in poaching which is obviously the go ok peter knights. wild aid we thank you very much for telling us a little bit more about trophy hunting the commercial ivory trade everything that goes along with it thank you so much for sharing your expertise this evening thank you. thank you. well here i did as the day is nearly done but as ever the conversation continues online you can find us on twitter either at a w news my handle is at sarah kelly t v and don't forget you can use the hash tag the day we will leave you now with a preview of this year's festive christmas market and copenhagen's top tourist attraction to vali gardens enjoy we'll see you again soon.
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black guy with a. afro germany starting december tenth d.w. . this is d w news live from bird lead robert mugabe's own party calls time the veteran leader after nearly four decades in power and they're willing party says that it is time for the president to step a.

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