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tv   The Day - News in Review  Deutsche Welle  March 16, 2018 1:02am-1:30am CET

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for the poisoning of an expiry and his daughter a chemical weapon attack carried out on british soil moscow says there is no proof tonight teresa mayes she has plenty of support her options for tomorrow or they may be in short supply i'm bored go off in berlin this is the day. my purse and i did it on that front strongly condemns this an acceptable attack on the soil of an allied country so you need to as has said that they stand by their ally u.k. and we have taken this into nato and the united nations will take it through into the european union russia's consistent disregard for international rules and norms this is an absolute tracers atrocious and outrageous what russia and holds very
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strong faith. should go away it should. also coming up tonight that they're the happiest people in the world and they drive a hard bargain. would you say that finns are born happy. right be right since you live in finland do you have the telephone number for santa claus we have of course. to all the nice people. we begin today with a chorus of support british prime minister to resign they needed to hear yesterday she said moscow is responsible for what would be the first chemical weapons attack on a nato member ever today allies from washington to berlin to paris came out in unison agreeing with the prime minister that russia is responsible international support it's important but real response options there are more important tonight it is
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unclear what the u.k. plans to do beyond expelling russian diplomats from the country nato members are being careful not to use language that would hint at a military response now verbal attacks between moscow and london they have already been launched russia says there is no proof here britain's defense minister says russia should simply quote shut off and go away british prime minister to resign may take a script and his daughter yulia now you visited the restaurant where the chemical attack took place and put the blame squarely on moscow. it is right that the u.k. government reacts in a robust way to what has happened here insoles break that is exactly what we've done i've announced that we will expand it be expecting twenty three russian diplomats. intelligence officers will have an impact on their intelligence network the way other measures will be taking britain's allies are showing their support
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france germany and the united states have signed a statement repudiating russia and president donald trump says he thinks moscow probably carried out the attack. nature's top military commander sees this as part of a wider passon of russian misbehavior at sea on land and in the air rushes increasingly modernized military is operating at levels not seen since the cold war at the same time russia is using indirect activities to advance its strategic objectives throughout europe along its periphery in the middle east and beyond russia has demonstrated a willingness and capability to use political provocation spread different decision from asian and undermine democratic institutions but russia is firing back accusing britain of dishonesty foreign minister sergei lavrov says it would be absurd to launch an attack against another state ahead of a presidential election and a fee for world cup. i can't tell you the motives of our british colleagues but i
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don't think there are honest. if they were britain would answer the questions we've been asking and would follow the procedures of the chemical weapons convention. britain says it is ready to share the evidence it has collected foreign minister boris johnson says they will make the results of the tests in souls very available to a team of international observers to dispel any doubts. so the support is vital but it is not enough to talk about britain's russian riddle of response possibilities tonight i'm joined by philip payson a brian a professor of strategic studies at st andrews university he testified before us. committees on defense strategies and from washington our correspondent carsten phenomena and here at the table with me is our correspondent all of salad gentlemen welcome mr bryant i want to start with you theresa may she has the show of
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solidarity that she wanted so what mode would you say she's in tonight is the u.k. in a state of undeclared military conflict with russia well i wouldn't use the phrase no i mean this was actually quite a good day for the british government it looked much eight years yesterday when we didn't know quite what the u.s. government was going to do in place but the french government is going to do so getting this statement out of the three c. outliers is absolutely vital but it's only a first step that they can't stop it just the explosives money. if they do that it's actually a response we have to sadly what happened here chamakh a weapons attack on the soil against someone under the protection of the british government. and in a way they could have killed many british civilians so the british government will have to figure out something now actually mr bryant what you're describing
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sounds like and and act of war an act of aggression against a foreign country it is but it shouldn't be resupplied it shouldn't be responded to with another act of war i mean it is this is an act of violence that is makin a legal act against britain but it shouldn't lead to world war three on the other hand it can't go on against. or with no government worth its name allowed this to go on what they need to do is damage the regime they don't need to damage the russian people still doesn't call for any kind of response that is going to damage the russian people but it needs to damage the regime perhaps control the country. how important would you say the statement was today that came from the us france and germany. it was hugely. that really yet the day before didn't know what the american president was going to do with trump's ties nor are well known what it looked like at one point by the
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americans might want that in the trunk might say well we don't have proof were indeed perhaps the french government was on board britain looked very isolated and this is also something that's good because britain is far more isolated. and i think the british position in the world is far weaker because it's withdrawing from . so i think getting this statement today was. really words that are with me and here in the studio was this an easy decision for berlin well first of all those were very strong words coming from not only berlin but also france the u.k. and the united states and if you consider the usually very diplomatic tone of she called this attack worrying she called for maintaining the dialogue that was the initial response to this attack and this is the sound of anglo-american that we usually no no if you look at the sound of that although the wording of that letter
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in comparison there we're talking about an attack on the sovereignty of the united kingdom the first use of a chemical agent in europe since the end of the second world war that russia is very likely behind it because there would be no other logical explanation and what that will mean is certainly and in a breach of international law not only that but also a breach of the chemical weapons treaty a threat for the security of these countries and if you look at this in comparison then it certainly shows that there is a stark contrast here. is no one for a critical stance towards russia we saw that after the annexation of crimea but she's also a supporter of multilateral positions and agreements and in that respect signing that letter might not have been too difficult for her. carsten in washington help us understand what we're seeing going on there u.s. president draw in saying yes russia is responsible and then we are seeing suddenly
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these new sanctions against russia that actually have nothing to do with the poisoning attack. not directly but it's a very interesting development it has always been very puzzling from the perspective of a european observe a virus president trump has always been so reluctant to blame russia and president putin for anything made be russian interference in the u.s. elections or other misdeeds or let's not forget last year congress here in the u.s. passed a bill that cold for new sanctions on russia until recently the trump ministration simply refused to act on it but i think the pressure on trump to finally do something has grown in recent weeks also from inside his own party and i think that this story in britain which has been developing over the last few days also did play a role because the u.k.
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is a very important ally of the americans trump himself always likes to talk about the special relationship and it would have looked really bad if he did not support terrorism a in this situation and if he continued to appear like the chief apologist of food in the west so something had to be done. and mr bryan you say that the reaction in the response by the u.k. to what we've seen happen in solsbury in shouldn't start world war three but what would you say what is the likelihood tonight that this diplomatic crisis could escalate into something that is much more dangerous and even something that's even you know tangible. well i mean certainly can i get in i don't think it will lead to military exchange there's one reality here that i think we have to always keep in mind russia is not the soviet union russia is the tenth largest economy in the
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world it's actually a country that has a demographic problem or it might have a strong military but it simply is not a world power economic so the russia couldn't sustain a modern conquer the west it simply doesn't have the resources to do that and i don't think it means the west or for needs to go to war over what the west needs to do is put pressure on the russian economy which is which is i said is not very strong it's a resource based oil exporting economy which is not growing fast and they can apply fresh air the russians that way and also the russian government if they were behind this miscalculated i didn't think they they didn't think it would get to this point because they have done things like this before in the past and it hasn't this kind of. i think this is caught them on a bit by surprise and they're scrambling now about how to respond and before we let you go i want to ask you in the one nine hundred seventy s. the u.k.
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expelled a large number of soviet diplomats and a lot of commentators have said that was really the shot in the achilles heel of the soviet espionage nest in the u.k. and that it never recovered do you think that this expelling this explosion of these thirty two diplomats could it have the same effect on russia's espionage efforts in the u.k. . well it will have some impact i mean an espionage is quite different now i think you know it's not always the these guys on the ground who cloak and dagger thing a lot of espionage the electronic. you can steal more things over the internet than you probably can that's going and run the way that we look at it ninety seven so this will certainly damage teligent russia. but i don't think it will cripple but it will make rights to look space in a professor of strategic studies or sin entered university carsten phenomena or
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correspondent in washington and here in the studio over salat gentlemen thank you very much we appreciate your insights tonight. so far britain has expelled russian diplomats and announced a royal boycott of the soccer world cup which takes place in russia later this year but there is talk of other retaliatory options including a cyber attack now the u.k. government has a specialist unit which is dedicated to offensive cyber actions it is jointly run by the ministry of defense and the intelligence services which are known as the g c h q u k commit as a number of tools at its disposal in the sphere of cyber warfare the u.k. offensive cyber capabilities and one might expect expect that these are put against russia in the eventuality that it's needed i think it's well within the realm of possibility that the u.k. government will undertake or use it offensive capability they didn't the russian
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federation and if it does then i think it will most likely target those entities and organizations in russia the responsible for conducting russian information warfare against the west. well i'm joined now here at the big table by john france want gun yeah he is the c.e.o. of the canadian based company element ai one of the globe's go to places for firms that want to use artificial intelligence he's also an advisor to the office of the canadian prime minister on cyber security zhang for what it's good to have you on the day you were at a conference earlier today a panel you spoke of a panel that i moderated the aspen institute germany held its annual conference here and we talked a lot about cyber security and how they mix i want to ask you good morning exist without the other news just in the broad picture can we talk about cyber security cyber attacks without talking about artificial intelligence no absolutely i mean it's possible the impact that thing in the space is similar to the one we're seeing
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in our industry where a distinct knowledge enables to do much more which must much less resources so no tapping into data you can automate task that would have required you to have tons of analysts you know scrapping that data and you can bet you could do that at a level of efficiency and at a cost point that was not possible before so you can totally have you know people doing the type of attack that we see there but investing millions and millions of dollar i think what surprised everybody. if we take as a point of reference the american election is actually how small the units were and if that was right you know to kind of scale the managed to reach which from a state perspective limited resources. i want to get your thoughts on the crisis between the u.k. and russia in a moment but first what can you tell us about canada's cybersecurity readiness i
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mean if you can of the war in the same situation as the u.k. tonight would it have. suitable cyber options so canada has always been pretty proactive on the on the cyber security threat perspective. there's been an agency has been there for quite a while to monitor and watch what was going on. in the light of all the different events that we've seen with the last budget that was announced a few weeks ago in canada the prime minister took a step forward and give the mission to the canadian security establishment the agency the name of the agency in canada to now be in charge and accountable for attacks on canadian interests so it's not just government but it's also businesses and citizens and it was bought with a huge budget is what half a billion the added that he added top of what's already allocated which is quite
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significant after a billion followed by a yearly additional budget of one hundred million just for decision city on top of that they've also invested. i think it's over one hundred million dollar in the r.c.m.p. which is the canadian federal police to create a cyber cyber crime division that would take action on civilian type situation and be able to respond again there making that units not only establishing it but making it sustainable over there forseeable future before we run out of time you know russia is known to be one of the best equipped cyber attack ready countries in the world do you think that's why we haven't heard the u.k. say publicly that a cyber attack is in the works or are they just you know so it's still a graze on is a cyber attack fully traceable is that something that you would be able to recognize as
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a full blown attack from you know laws of war and i think that's all the gray zone that maybe some states are. in what has been made clear and if i use canada as a point of reference for cyber attack where every that comes from on canadian interests they will have the ability to respond now in the u.k. case now is what kind of discoloration does that represent we're kind of in on their own territory here you know is that a proper response is it's too much and here i mean we're going to have to watch how they're proceeding this before we can judge it's really hard to forecast in this specific situation. the c.e.o. of element i wish we had more time france was fascinating i'm talking with you we appreciate you coming in and i thank her thank you i. well every year the u.n. releases a study working the world's countries by happiness and surprise surprise the nordic countries dominate the list once more finland is now officially the world's
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happiest nation up from fifth place last time around the study looked at factors such as life expectancy income social support and corruption of the finns top their neighbors or norway and denmark they were also in the top five germany came in fifteenth i see days long winter nights and a wide social safety net is it the stuff that happiness the finns seem to have at least some of the answers. will our politics said economics i think we have the basic stuff he's quite good in finland say makes a great like base why why we're doing so good here. that sounds strange but we friends really that happy that we're going in on the list in order to be able to follow we have all the services that we need here daycare is nearby.
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and the parks as well we can play and slide down hills if we want just like here see the last of. the study also says being happy seems to be contagious it found a high correlation between the happiness of citizens and that of immigrant newcomers. but what explains those countries with less fortunate rankings like the us which fell four places to number eighteen. i think it's the general uncertainty and political unpredictability people don't know what to expect in their future i don't know that's my guess but. for now the finns and their nordic neighbors know what their future likely holds more sterling scores on quality of life indexes even if their heat indexes don't always play along. so what gives the finish secret to happiness well we decided to ask a real fear to tell us what she thinks i'm joined here in our newsroom by the
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finnish ambassador to germany ambassador. ambassador it's good to have you here this is our happy seat today we're going to try to share a little bit of the happiness of the finns why are you so happy why what is your country so happy. thank you for inviting us here. i think it's a combination of very many small things and some of the really basic things and the basic things are for instance the very quote. nordic welfare model which we are implementing it well so it means that we have very school very quick schools free for all free for everybody for the first nine years and then very quick health care system equality in areas ways you know society and then democratic system and that sort of caring system as well kerry but it's very expensive
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well when we are getting quality school and quality health care infrastructure which is functioning because finland is really having a functioning people in this functioning society and we have very cold for instance a net wife i add everything is working. so when that this was functioning people are also ready to pay more taxes and i don't think so that although everybody is complaining of taxes that we are basically unsatisfied and i mean. everyone you know complains about taxes everywhere in the world in your country the o.e.c.d. says you have one of the highest suicide rates how do you square being the happiest people and also having the highest suicide rate maybe we have a country of extremes we have we have very very beautiful summer long summer nights white summer nights and then we have very dark winter nights we have very warm we can have way of warm summer and it can be very cold as it is or dark so i might say
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the dark side that had the sight i mean i also read in this report that immigrants in your country foreign born immigrants are just as happy as native born fit how do you explain that grow up with a i enjoy exactly the same qualities of our society and sort of personal freedom as well but also all these services which are sort of natural for everybody in our country and then also this equality feeling that really it is there are opportunities to everybody not depending on they they whether they are men or women all what color they have or what they believe shares or where they are coming from i mean you you could actually sound like a u.s. politician and you know if you look at this study the study says that the u.s. is getting richer and americans are getting unhappier used to be the ambassador in the u.s. why are americans not as happy as that means. i cannot say of course anything about
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why america is not happy but like i said i think that basics that you are you have the foundation. for your life and then you know. the state is really. the pace. i. believe that. especially the education is created keisha but it starts from the actually we have very cold maternity care we have very. little would you say that finns are born happy. maybe they. are going to create country beautiful nature or we are with the nature very much. we like to fear. these sort of small things going on friday evening to start with makes makes
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everybody happy all right well we will definitely do we want to hold you up if you want to go to the sauna you could do that it's evening ambassador thank you very much a final question to you live in finland do you have the telephone number for santa claus. we have of course. all the nice people all right. dear. everyone.
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