you will see the same amount of spending in much more compressed time period. in the meantime, they have like a little bit. connell: so one part of this, we mentioned this earlier before you came on. we are playing catch-up to some3 extent, private companies are helping. at least that is your bet. they are telling us to catch up. but they case, talking steve jobs earlier, he had rushed the iphone to market, and your theory, i guess, is that we weren't ready for those devices from a security standpoint, is that right? >> i don't think there's any doubt about that. my theory is, it is long, but basically my belief is that they steve jobs found out he had pancreatic cancer, it all changed. steve jobs used to work within an ecosystem.