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to ask all about the criticism with dr. oz.. >> happy mother's day! good morning, congress one step closer to having a say on a nuclear day with iran. happy mother's day, welcome to "sunday morning futures." a bill giving congress a chance to review a deal now in the hands of the house. john mccain moments away live on talks with iranians. . and threats by isis prompting a heightened alert in the united states as the pentagon says the terror group is now on the defensive in a e key middle eastern country. general petraeus on that and his sentencing for leaking classified information. plus bill clinton on the defensive about contributions to
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his family's foundation. our panel on that and the new entrance in the 2016 race as we look ahead o on "sunday morning futures" today. it was a rare bipartisan moment the senate voting to give it a voice over any nuclear deal with the iran. the house could pass it by early next wook. the talks have been hugely controversial. iran is negotiating with the united states and five other world powers to remove crippling sanctions off iran in return for restrictions on its nuclear program. with me now is john mccain, chairman of the senate armed services committee. he's had strong words for the talks going so far as to call secretary of state john kerry delusional. good to see you, senator. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> let me get your response to the passage of the bill in the senate. what exactly does this it enable congress to do? >> actually what we would have liked but unable to achieve is
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to treat it -- for it to be considered as a treaty which would have meant an up or down e vote by the senate and the congress but that's not the case. this was a negotiated compromise between democrats and republicans, corker and carden, and it does give us the opportunity to judge whether the congressionally imposed sanctions, which are strong, will be removed or not. and that of course could be vetoed by the president if we decide to keep those sanctions in place, but there will be extensive debate and discussion on the floor of the senate. and that's one of the major steps forward because this agreement so far, as i read it is a piece of swiss cheese and that will be revealed in debate and discussion on the floor of the senate. >> this was a real test bringing
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people together to actually make this bill move forward. it was either this or nothing. >> that's exactly, excuse me that's exactly right. we either had a choice of this deal which was carefully crafted, or we weren't going to have a chance to review it at all because it requires 50 votes. >> stay with us. i want to get your thoughts on the talks with a country we know is a sponsor of terrorism. we'll be back on that. first, the senate may have passed that bill on giving lawmakers a final say on a nuclear deal with iran but how do we see their counterparts reacting as well as president obama. eric shawn with that angle. >> good morning, everyone. it passed the senate, now on to the house. a signature in the oval. this is the iran review act of
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2015. do you really think the 24 pages can stop iran from build. ing a possible nuclear bomb? >> it continues to be the view of the president that by far the best way for us to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon is diplomacy. >> capitol hill has some oversight, but not control over an agreement with iran. the bill delays lifting sanctions on iran for 30 days pending congressional approval. lawmakers can try to scuttle the agreement. president obama could still veto the thumbs down. for some make inging the senate and house action basically irrelevant. it was arkansas freshman senator tom cotten and war vet who has been outspoken against the deal. senator cotton thinks it should be a a treaty approved by two-thirds of the senate. >> we have the constitutional authority to pass any
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legislation to stop a dangerous deal with iran from going forward, and that's going to be my priority is stopping an agreement with iran to let them get a nuclear weapon and threaten the united states and our allies. not just today and tomorrow but 10 and 15 years from now. >> the only jewish republican member of congress of long island new york. the congressman predicts the deal will spark a middle east nuclear arms race. >> this president is on pace to trigger nuclear arms race. if he's worried about his legacy it's not going to be pretty 20 years from now when we're looking back to see the consequences o of this deal. >>. john boehner predicts the bill will pass and even if it does, some predict iran will repeat its response to the security council resolutions to banning and suspend enrichment. their answer brazen defiance no matter what tehran is told.
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>> amazing, thank you, we are back now with senator john mccain and senator, let me get your thoughts on this negotiation broadly speaking. we know that iran is sponsoring terrorism. e we know they have been the big disrupter in the middle east. why are we even having these negotiations? >> well i'm not against the negotiations, but as george shultz wrote in a "wall street journal" editorial said that we went from negotiations the objective was to remove iron's capability to delaying it. . so already you have a terribly flawed process going on where you have to view it in the context of what this is all about and that is delusion that i talked about before that somehow there will be this great nuclear agreement and then there will be a partnership between the united states and iran and everything will change in the middle east. that is delusion. that's what the states think and
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that's why they are going on their own and proceeding as their own decisions including in syria, including the fact that the saudis genocide decided to initiate because they could not stand to have iranian sponed in control of yemen. >> now the u.s. says that the syrian rebel train inging has begun in jordan and this is going to be the first of four training sites to begin the instruction. others in saudi arabia, you were just in syria, what can you tell us about this training going on right now? >> i can tell you it's minimal. but the real problem here is and it's really a disgraceful is if you're going to train these young men and so far the plans could certainly not have decisive effect on the battlefield when you look at the
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5,000 hezbollah and others but the important thing here is that they are training them only to fight against isis. my question to them has been suppose these young men are training are we going to protect them from being barrel bombed by assad? the answer to that is we don't have a policy on that yet. it's immoral to send young men in to fight against the barrel bombing, who by the way there's evidence of him as renewed use of chemical weapons. >> or the negotiations on iran, this will likely be dealt with by the next person in the white house. >> it will be but it depends on how big of wreckage he or she is going to have to sort out because we have seen the results of an absence of american
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leadership. these arab countries are going on their own. meanwhile, iran is in four countries. iraq syria, yemen and saudi arabia. no it's not saudi arabia. it's iraq, yemen, syria and -- there's a fourth country. >> what do you want to see happen senator? you mentioned leading from behind. what kind of a comprehensive strategy would you like to see take place? >> the other country is lebanon. what i would like to see is the united states establish a no-fly zone in syria, train and e equip
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people, work with other countries in the region in order to roll back the iranian influence. syria has become a client state of iran. the only way that we're going to reverse that is to have american leadership. right now there's a group of arab countries that are training some syrianens, but are also backing an al qaeda-affiliated group and they are the ones that are having success against bashar al assad, who is being significantly weakened. >> and it's certainly hitting many of our friends around the world who are wondering where the leadership is. senator, good to have you on the program today, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> with isis threatening the middle east and americans here at home, we'll ask one man who commanded our troops in the middle east and run our country's spy agency. i'll ask general petraeus what
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welcome back more than 3,200 military installations put on high alert over an isis threat. as our military works to prevent an attack on american soil. isis calling for more attacks like those in paris, canada and australia. now the u.s. is training forces in the middle east to fight the terror army on its own turf. i spoke with general petraeus who knows the terrain well. >> there's no question about it. they have lost ground steadily over the course of a number of months now. they certainly still have the capacity to carry out a
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terrorist attack in baghdad, to carry out offensive operations in areas still contested or under their control, but they have been steadily pushed back from baghdad, pushed back all the way up to tikrit mosul will be cleared once again, and their line lines of communication have been cut in the north. so in iraq this is progressing and it's really more about the political dynamics and about essentially the deals, the bargains if you will that have to be struck to ensure that everyone has an incentive to support iraq. >> what do you think is most important for the u.s.'s role in that regard to keep isis on the run and degrade and destroy them? >> getting them on the run is the first step towards the ultimate defeat of isis. the main effort right now, the focus is in iraq. although there's certainly attacks taking place every day against isis forces in syria and
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elsewhere elsewhere, and over time as the force there is developed and we can start to support it against isis and the al qaeda affiliate, that will begin to unfold as well. >> why has it been so difficult to gain that kind of traction in syria? >> syria has just a number of different issues. it is in one respect really a religious war. it is a war between sunni and shia. it's a proxy war, in some respects. the various sunni states and the united states and the coalition are supporting one side iran and fighting on the ground and supporting the side of bashar al assad. it's a terrible, terrible situation, well over 220,000 syrians have been killed to this
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date. millions of them have been displaced. outside the country millions more displaced. really now you have to wonder if humpty dumtty can be put back together again and that's beginning to unfold in the months and years that lie ahead. >> how important is u.s. leadership in that region of the world world. i was with the former prime minister of one of the middle eastern countries. he said to meso many of my friends around the middle east are wondering where is america. this it leading from behind. what's your sense of where america should be? >> clearly american leadership is needed. it's vital. it's wanted. and actually i think it is being provided. i think there has been an understandable reluctance in the wake of these very frustrating, very costly wars in iraq is and in afghanistan and in some other engagements that we have had. and the pendulum swung a bit
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but that has swung back and i think there's very clear recognition that american leadership is not only needed but that it has to be provided and we are leading the coalition against isis in iraq and in syria. we are leading the effort to establish the moderate ground force in syria that we could then use to help in that fight against isis that's so very important. really regardless of what outcome you want in syria, one of those having to be defeating isis and the al qaeda affiliate, regardless of what outcome you want there, whether it's a negotiated settlement or whatever you have to change the momentum on the battlefield because people aren't going to go to the table if that's not done. ta requires the ground force. it's good to see this finally beginning to get under way. >> you're a national hero for all of us. what are the thoughts on the sentencing in terms of leaking classified information. >> i made a statement at the end
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of that. i apologize for letting people down. for causing pain and i noted that i look forward to getting on with life in the private sector. >> let me get your take in terms of what's next for you. you look forward to moving on. what are your plans for the future? >> i have a wonderful portfolio of activities. i'm a partner at the global investment firm where i chair the kkr global institute. we look at macroeconomic analysis environmental issues and geeopolitical risk. i have places where i teach each week. i have a chair at usc where i spend a week per semester and i'm a fellow at harvard. i do some speaking and support a number of veterans groups. it's a very busy and i'm delighted to focus on it and
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focus forward. >> and thank you so much general. honor to talk with you. the united states waging tough nuclear negotiations with iran, but are our leaders doing enough to get the best deal possible? i'll ask one of the top negotiators as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures."
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humanitarian cease-fire expected to begin on tuesday. the u.s.-backed agreement is set to go into effect next week bringing a temporary stop to a saudi led air campaign. joining me is former senator george mitchell of maine. and former chairman of the mitchell commission. he's the author of a new book "the negotiator", it's great to have you on the program. congratulations on the book. let's talk about yemen. we were expecting a cease-fire today and obviously that didn't happen. the fighting continued and they are putting it in place on tuesday. >> yemen is a microkoz. of the region. deep tribal ties, not the sense of nation wood that we expect to expect and take for granted in
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our country. a country that has been divided in the past between north and south yemen in which conflict has gone on for many many decades. and it is an illustration of the complexity the conflicting overlapping, sometimes contradictory conflicts in those countries. very difficult to resolve. plagued by poor governance poverty, not an easy solution. i think that our support for the saudis is the right position opposing iran's support for the rebels who are shia and the dominant government before the previous government was sunni-backed. but in iraq in syria, some in pakistan in bahrain, you see the conflict exploding in a devastating way. >> can we talk that balance of supporting the saudis on one side while we talk with the
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iranians about this nuclear agreement? >> yes, of course. the fact is that what we're doing in trying to reach an agreement to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon will benefit the saudis and israelis and all of the countries in the region who are part of the arab coalitions that oppose persian attempts to dominate the region. >> we just heard from john mccain basically made the point that we need to see regular checkups in terms of what their progress is. that doesn't look like the iranians want to agree with that. we don't want to be lifting the sanctions right away until we have a real deal and the iranians want those sanctions lifted as soon as the ink is dry or even ertier than that. your observations on what senator john mccain just said? >> he's a good friend, but i disagree on this issue. while harshly critical of the
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interim agreement, they said iran would not keep its commitments but it's been verify verified that they have kept all the agreements in the interim agreement. now the president of iran has said that iran doesn't want nuclear weapons, but their words are condition tra dikted by the actions of the government. so an agreement based on trust is out of the question. the question is will it have sufficient verification procedures to guarantee that iran does what it commits to do in the agreement and if not the sanctions will snap back into place. that's the key. >> and also critical as the point you have made on this program before it's not just about america. these are five other superpowers that need to agree to this. >> there are five countries on our side of the table. china, russia britain, france and germany.
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they are joining in the sanctions which is why they are effective. sanctions will not be as effective anywhere near as universal sanctions. the president's critics and the congress say let's up the sanctions, walk away and iran will come crawling back. that won't happen because the other countries won't continue in the sanctions. it's a fantasy to think we can raise the sanctions and somehow maintain their effectiveness. so the alternative to what the president is doing would leave this country facing two choices. a nuclear-armed iran or a war to prevent a nuclear-armed iran. it's best to try to do it through negotiation. if it can be adequately verified. >> the president is meeting with the leaders of the gulf state this is upcoming week at camp david. what do you want to hear from this meeting in terms of the leaders from the gulf states in the middle east working with the president, whether it be in yemen or on these iran
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negotiations? >> first, let's be clear. every foreign leader with whom i met would like an american foreign policy that supports his country. we have to make our decisions based on our interests just as they make their decisions based o on their interests. so that's the first point. and every time a foreign leader criticizes the united states they know there's a political ecochamber here that the opposition says this guy is not supporting our country so the president must be weak. that happens whichever side is in power. so let's concentrate on what is the american national interest. we want peace and stability in the region committed to israel security but we have to recognize the limits of our ability, particularly through military means to solve conflicts that have been going on for hundreds in some cases, thousands of years. >> has our leadership been weak?
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>> i don't think so. the president ran for office saying he would end two wars. let me close with one statistic. there are a billion and a half muslims in the world now, 1 out of 5. in 2060 there will be 300 billion, 1 out of 3. those who advocate the use of american military force to resolve internal conflicts in the muslim world are going to have a field day over the next 30 or 40 years because they are going through a very difficult, turbulent period and we can't bomb our way to success in the middle east. >> senator, good to have you on the show today. former president bill clinton going on defense over his family's foundation funds at an event hosted by a mining company. our panel will be there as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." back in a minute.
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here are some of the stories we're following at this had hour. two brothers and one woman now in custody this morning after two mississippi police officers
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were shot and killed during a routine traffic stop. police say the officers were left to die in the street. the officers are benjamin dean. a witness giving heartbreaking testimony after finding one of the officers. he asked her, am i dying? i know i'm dying, just hand me my walky talky. the three are in custody after an manhunt. the two brothers do have multiple arrests for weapons and gun. charges as well as past felony convictions and now charged with capital murder and after the fact capital murder. the shootings mark the first time in 30 years a hattiesburg police officer has been killed in the line of duty. tropical storm ana making landfall this morning. weakening as it came ashore with 40 mile per hour winds. it's expected to pack less of a
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punch as it moves over land. it will drop heavy rain. authorities are telling residents to stay safe because the winds are strong enough to send tree limbs flying. now back to "sunday morning futures." former president bill clinton going on the offensive over new allegations. foreign donors gained influence when hillary clinton was secretary of state by giving money to the clinton's foundation. but the former president pushes back accusing the author of making baseless accusations that he says will not fly. ed rollins has been a long-time strategist. he's a fox news political analyst. judith miller is fellow at manhattan institute and an author and journalist and a fox
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news contributor. and lenny chan is a research fellow, good to see everybody, thank you for joining us. your observations? >> he's made comments before like they always deny deny, deny. this is a clinton montra. at the end of the day, this is going to be picked up by mainstream media and there's a lot of questions they have to answer. the clintons have had the worst 30 days of a campaign start. she's not basically articulated or answered any of these questions. >> she's not and says she will not. she will only testify once. worst 30 days and it's not impacting the polls. >> it's impacting in this case not affecting democrats. but independents that are critical are starting to not trust her. and if you don't trust someone, you're not going to vote someone. we have walker rubio and jeb
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all ahead of her in new hampshire. it's going to be a close race. she's got to basically get on track here or she's the not beginning to be a viable candidate. >> i think bill finally came out to defend his wife but where was slick willy when we needed him? it was not a strong performance. he seems to be a little rusty. there are now calling for a doj department of justice investigation of the foundation, which peggy newman called a political slush fund. and i think we're going to hear more and more of that. bill and hillary clinton as the bonnie and clyde of american politics enriching themselves. this is a theme that's going to carry on through the election. >> it's not going away. >> it's definitely not going away. i think the bigger problem for her is it's starting to effect people's perception of her trust worthiness. . e we still don't know why she's running for president.
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what's the policy? >> she hasn't articulated that. >> she just says she's the champion of the common man. that's a hard act to pull off when you're going to raise $2.5 billion for your campaign and you're going to take pac money. >> she basically said she didn't want the big donors and now she's creating her superpac. she's going to raise $2.5 billion. that's way more than mitt romney or obama did last time u. >> can that be effective enough that she has all this money? >> i promise you whoever the nominee is will have as much money. we have to start talking about the issues. how we're going to lead this country in the future. >> i want to talk about the issues next. let's get a look at what's coming up at the top of the hour. good morning to you.
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>> we're going to look at the coverage of both clintons. he's going to continue to give $500,000 speeches. jeb bush's first interview. and you have been waiting for this the media roughing up tom brady after that nfl report said he kind of probably sort of knew the patriots were deflateing the footballs. >> thank you so much. nast 20 minutes. three more republicans threw their hat into the ring. how do they compare to the rest of the pack? we'll see how they made their cases as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures", next. excellent looking below the surface, researching a hunch... and making a decision
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tharg bid for the 2016 election. they each have unconventional resumes, but will that lack of d.c. experience be a positive or are they just too far outside to get. inside the white house? we bring back the panel. you called it the bnc team. >> it's true. ben carson is a brilliant neurosurgeon. i think he talks smoothly but he's not ready for prime time as you can see from some of his remarks. why is carr lee fiorina running? i have to give her credit. >> when she talks about the issues i think she has the pulse of the american people. >> she's the only person who can criticize hillary.
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but look at the record. she couldn't beat barbara boxer. >> maybe that's why she's in the race. she's in the race for a reason. she's a woman, she's a business person bringing something to the table. >> i think she's playing for vp. she figures who else in this field is going to be a woman who has a record that is credible. politically she's been a little bit of a disaster in the past. but she's going to be competitive with some part of the republican electorate. the field is so big that you don't need much more than 10% to potentially win in iowa. i put huckabee in a different category. he has experience and is going to be viable with the southern primary lining up on super tuesday. >> ben carson is popular. he's also articulate. >> these three are not going to be the nominee of our party. i have great affection for mike huckabee. i was his chairman six years ago. he's an anti-business candidate
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this time. statements against big pharma. so mike will maybe get into the better field, but fiona is a 1%. carson is a little higher than that. the big story of the week is donald trump is going to run for president. he was in south carolina yesterday. he's interviewing political people this week. my fear of him is we'll never get on a serious discussion of issues as long as donald trump is on the race. he kind of becomes a nag will attract a lot of attention and media. yesterday all the media walked out on a guy who is a serious candidate and basically to go listen to trump. >> let me ask you about the democratic side. really interesting when you hear what's being talked about in
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terms of primary. hillary clinton is their candidate candidate. >> you now have the chairwoman of the democratic national committee debbi wauser man who is a close ally has declared they are going to do six primary debates, which means hillary will have to debate bernie sanders, and she's only going to look bad. it's not like she's going to become a great debater. and totally loses her control of the campaign. >> will elizabeth warren enter the fray? >> she can get in any time she wants. >> we have to get to the issues. >> anybody who wants to run for the democrats, jump in. it's the great opportunity for free air time. no one expects you to win any way. why not get in? >> what does that get you? >> it gets you some experience and maybe then you can run for
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real the next time around. why not? >> scoop half of our candidates over to there. >> are you sure debbi wasserman schultz is a friend of hers? >> we have a lot of issues to get to. go through the most important issues for voters in our next block. the unemployment rate down to a seven-year low. and what does that mean for interest rates? a check on the numbers as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." back in a minute. a shoutout to my mom in kuwait in the desert.
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welcome back. new jobs numbers show the economy gaining momentum after a disappointing first quarter. the labor department reported that the country added 223,000 jobs last month. this as the unemployment rate fell 5.4% the lowst it's been in seven years. we're with ed june and lanny this morning. your thoughts on budget passage and good economic data? >> first budget we've had passed by congress in several years. republicans have to figure out now, how do they want to use the opportunity to use reconciliation which is a policy maneuver that allows them to get stuff through the senate more easily how are they going to do that? are they going to use it for full repeal of obamacare like they said they were going to or something different? rip out pieces of obamacare and do tax reform? on economy, my sense is you still had abysmal growth. we had 0.1% for q1.
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that may be revised down. there's a lot of moving factors here with the economic data. i don't think the fed will raise rates until the end of this year but i think it will happen this year. >> i agree with you on the fed not moving. how can you when you have such an uneven economy. and how crazy this is the first budget in seven years. >> i've been looking at the senate committee that voted overwhelming to appeal the ability for the nsa to collect bulk data on americans. and that is they were not looking at what we're saying and doing and whom we're calling, but you have all that data stored. the senate is now on its way to repealing that authority. plus you had a federal appeals court, that said that that practice was unconstitutional. two incredible blows to an act which many many people including the former head of department of homeland security say is vital at a time when we're under increased threat to
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isis. >> you've got economic issues and obviously foreign policy issues. what other issues? >> the interesting thing in my lifetime and i've probably looked at more polls than anybody, is national security is ranked number one now. like 29% -- i have been seen that any of these past decades. americans are very very concerned a about what's going on in the world. they're very concerned about leadership. and i think whoever wins this race has got to basically project a strong leader. two more years of obama, and he's only going to get weak in my opinion, however you project it and national security is a good way of doing it. a critical question on the budget, i'm very leeds the house has passed a big budget. they now have to make the details work. the defense side is going to be the big battle. >> in terms of sequestration and spending. >> absolutely. >> nondisposable, as well as disposable. there's a lot of talk about spending money on infrastructure. >> we need that eventually and you have to figure out a way to pay for it. the critical thing and i'm not an economist and we have some experts here but i think when
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you look at the unemployment numbers, there are still 93 million people a record high who are not in the workforce. highest number ever. 163,000 new people coming into the job market that's not much of a surplus. i still think the job numbers are always kind of misleading. the two things that everybody looks at the stock market and the jobs numbers, but the reality is most people don't feel this economy is moving forward. >> a quick break and one thing to watch forward weekend ahead on "sunday morning futures" with our panel, next. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts ♪ ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems. at boeing,
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back with our panel. the one thing to watch in the week ahead. >> i want to see if john boehner can basically control his conservatives and pass this iran bill that the senate passed
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98-1. if he can't, the whole thing will come apart. judy? >> i'm watching the gulf summit at camp david this week. the arab allies are now, they say they want nato-style protection. if they're attacked, they want an american commitment to defend them and they want more weapons to fight the fight against isis. i don't think they're going to get either out of this president. >> that's going to be an important meeting this wednesday. >> i'm watching what's going to happen this week in the 2016 presidential campaign. we've still got a long time to go before the first ballots are cast. on the republican side the field is taking shape and i'm curious to see if marco rubio can continue his streak from the last couple of weeks. is jeb bush going to be able to raise money and finally make some headway with conservatives particularly in early states. and is scott walker going to still keep learning up on the issues and doing what he should be doing? >> that's the thing. they need to focus on the issues and not attacking each other. >> and right now we have to talk about what we are. >> thanks everybody, to our panel. thanks for joining us for "sunday morning futures."
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i'm maria bartiromo. a shout-out to mama mccain at 103 years old, thanks john mccain for joining us. hello, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. racial issues and some pandering driving national politics over this week. our new attorney general loretta lynch traveled to baltimore. there she met with the family of freddie gray the man who was fatally injured while in police custody and who became the rallying cry for riots that shut down much of the city for days. the attorney general's visit coincided with the president's appearance monday evening on late night television, at which he told david letterman and his audience that race explains all that happened in baltimore. we take that up here tonight. the president's contradiction of his own call for truth just last

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