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tv   Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo  FOX Business  October 18, 2015 6:00pm-7:01pm EDT

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>> >> good morning a pivotal decision about america's future in afghanistan, taking thousands of our troops in the country to the end of president obama's second term. hi everyone i'm maria bart roma. welcome to "sunday morning futures." how did the rise of taliban and spread of isis impact the president's decision? i'll ask former u.s. ambassador to turkey and iraq, james jeffries, coming up. plus north korea offers to end 60-plus years of conflict with the united states, and south korea. what should we make of it? and how safe is it to use your credit card? industry rolling out new cards with safety chips now. but retailers are not keeping the pace. i will talk to the ceo of a
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leading credit card processor, whose company just rolled out the biggest ipo of the year as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." and we begin this morning with the spotlight on the benghazi scandal. hillary clinton set to face off with the house benghazi committee this upcoming thursday. it follows the closed-door testimony this past week of her longtime aide huma abedin. abedin questioned for almost six hours by committee members. she was an assistant to the former secretary of state of the time on the terrorist attack on our diplomatic compound in libya that left four americans dead, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. indiana congresswoman susan brooks is on the benghazi committee as well as the house ethics, energy and commerce committee. thanks very much for joining us. >> good morning, maria. great to be here. >> can you lay out what your are expecting to hear from hillary clinton? what do you expect to get from her? >> well the secretary was in charge of the agency where we
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lost four brave americans. she is one very important fact witness and that's what we're trying to get to. we're trying to get to all of the facts. that's what our committee has been focused on from the beginning. so we will be asking her questions about the hundreds of e-mails that we have received from the state department about the security requests that have been made. and about mentions about the security pasture in benghazi and libya. there was a lot of violence going on in libya and in benghazi prior to these atacks. we have a lot of questions for the secretary. we're very pleased that she will be there and has agreed to answer all of our questions. and so it's very important that we get to these facts. again, she's put one fact witness in this entire long process and investigation. >> so the public wants to know, what specifically are you looking for? i mean, when you say the security issues around that, are you saying that there were e-mails, ask be the secretary, as well as the entire department, to send more help to the ambassador in to benghazi at
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that time? what are you looking for specifically? >> well, we definitely want to ask what was theprocedures, wha protocols when all of these security incidents were mentioned in e-mails. and yes it's through the review of the many e-mails that we've had. in fact we received over 57,000 e-mails and documents that have not been produced to other congressional committees in the past. so we've been poring through those. there are many hundreds of mentions about security incidents. and we want to know who within the department, within the state department, within cia, defense department, what did they know about the security problems in benghazi, and in libya, how far up in the organization did those security requests go? what was the secretary's knowledge? what was her decision-making during all of these security incidents and all of the violence in libya leading up to the attack. >> we've got to talk about the six-hour testimony from her former aide, current aide, actually, huma abedin and i also want to ask you about the kevin
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mccarthy comments. so stay with us, congresswoman. plenty more to talk about you. congresswoman brooks. but first the stage is set for this upcoming hearing. what can we really expect from hillary clinton? fox news senior correspondent eric joins us with that angle. >> good morning, maria. it will be an opportunity for her to shine, or to sink. hillary clinton expected to be grilled on her actions before, and after, the deadly attack, and if she withheld information that could be damaging to her. >> we have four dead americans, because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk when they decided to go kill some americans? what's different at this point does it make? >> it was a sharp and iconic reply to an earlier hearing. hillary clinton will no doubt be asked again about the failures and security, inability to send help to ambassador chris stevens and his colleagues and the administration's now discredited explanation, blaming that internet video for the protest and the attack. on friday, mrs. clinton was asked what she expects when she testifies.
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>> i already testified about benghazi. i testified to the best of my ability before the senate and the house. i don't know that there's much to add. other standing committees with their experienced members and staff have all looked in to this, and basically just rejected the conspiracy theories. i will do my best to answer their questions. but, i don't really know what their objective is right now. >> she and democratic committee members charge the investigation is politically motivated by the gop. but as chairman republican congressman trey gowdy insists the mission is to objectively uncover the facts. >> trying to run this investigation the way serious investigations are run. but lo and behold we find something that all seven of those other committees that she
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claims looked into benghazi never found. so we're going to follow the facts wherever they go. and if that impacts people's perception of her fitness to be commander in chief, so be it. >> general, carter hammond previously testified that defense secretary leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey were told it was a terrorist attack and they went to the white house to brief the president about it. later that night, mr. obama and mrs. clinton did talk by telephone. the next day, the administration continued to blame -- >> i remember the moment. thank you so much. eric shawn with the latest there. and more now with congresswoman susan brooks this morning. let me ask you about the testimony, six-hour testimony of huma abedin this past week. what did you learn? >> we're very pleased that ms. abedin did come and she did answer all of the questions, and we thought it was very important to ask her questions. she was a deputy chief of staff of the secretary's.
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she also, was the other individual and we believe the only other individual who had a clinton e-mail dotcom account. and she did transmit a number of e-mails between the state department officials, and the secretary, about chris stevens, about the mission in benghazi, and so it truly was questions about her knowledge, her involvement. she also was involved in setting up the trips that the secretary took in october of 2011 to libya. and was planning another trip prior to the attack. or for october, i believe, of 2012. so she was involved in libya, and those were the types of questions that the committee and the staff asked her. >> you know, is it any surprise that, you know, we know that it was incredibly dangerous in benghazi at the time. we know that they had been asking for more help. paint the picture of what the backdrop is here. because i think people are trying to understand fully what
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it is that we're trying to or that the committee is trying to get at. >> the committee is trying to be able to point the picture and piece together all of the facts. and certainly there have been prior congressional committees. but they didn't have the benefit of the thousands of e-mail communications that we now have. as i've said definitely over 57,000 of e-mail communicatios s and documents that have been produced to our committee. and in those e-mails and communications and memos we see what the thought processes were. what the requests were. what the situation on the ground was. benghazi was a very large city. a city the size of washington, d.c. or boston. it was a large city and having numerous, numerous violent incidents around that city prior to the attack. in 2011, but particularly in 2012. >> and of course we know that your investigation, uncovered the fact that hillary clinton had this private server in her house. connect the dots for us.
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why is this private server so important? >> well, the issue really is what were the e-mail communications that were going between the secretary, and other members of the state department. or other officials throughout government. and so we're just trying to piece together what it is that everybody knew prior to the attack. before, during and after the attack. and so that's why, in any serious investigation, i'm a former federal prosecutor. and in serious investigations you get the facts. and you get the communication. and what was going on in people's minds and what actions did they take. >> yes. >> when requests were made. >> so that's why -- >> at this point, pardon me. i apologize, congresswoman we want to get to this important question and that is about kevin mccarthy's comments. now we've got this past wednesday a second gop lawmaker suggesting that this house investigation into benghazi is more about targeting hillary clinton than anything else. how damning are the notions from republican congressman richard hannah, as well as kevin mccarthy, that basically this committee doesn't have credibility?
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>> it's obviously frustrating to those of us on the committee we have been very, very focused on the facts. we haven't shared with other members within our own conference or with the public all that we've been doing, all that we have uncovered, and what the results are of what we've been doing. and i think that should demonstrate that we are doing the very best, serious, thorough investigation. it's not wise to be just putting out different pieces of the investigation. it's better to get the entire picture. and that's what we've been trying to paint. that's what we're trying to piece together. it's taken us far too long. we've had tremendous difficulties getting a lot of information from the state department. it's taken them far too long to get us the information. so, frankly, it's been frustrating. these are members that haven't been briefed, it's not as if we're briefing our own members. because i think it's important that we keep the investigation serious, that we keep it in a very professional manner, and that means not disseminating
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different bits of information. again, certainly it's unfortunate, it's frustrating, but for me it's just noise. we're not focusing on it. we're staying focused on what we need to accomplish and that is finishing the interviews, it's been issuing a final report, and that's going to take some time. we're not going to be finished on thursday. this investigation doesn't end on thursday. we have more witnesses to interview. witnesses from the state department. witnesses from the cia. and it's incumbent upon us to interview the leads of those agencies. that was the secretary. and that is why we are interviewing her. it would be wrong for us not to ask her the many questions we will be ready to ask on thursday. >> well certainly the public deserves to know what exactly went on. representative, good to see you. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you very much. and more importantly the families of the four victims are the ones who need to know the facts. >> for sure. >> thank you. congresswoman susan brooks we will see you soon. president obama has made withdrawing troops from afghanistan a major goal for his second term. this past week a complete
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flip-flop. he changed course. we will talk to former u.s. ambassador about the plan to abandon the drawdown. and he will tell us what he thinks is really going on. you can follow me on twitter @mariabartiromo. let us know what you would like to hear about this upcoming issue. stay with us. we're looking ahead this morning. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on
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welcome back. new reaction to the 180-degree change in course in afghanistan. president obama declaring the u.s. drawdown of troops in afghanistan will not happen the way he originally promised. there are 9800 troops currently stationed there. the original plan was to cut that to about 1,000 person embassy force after 2016. now that number will increase,
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to 5500 men and women in uniform, helping fight terrorism, and train afghani forces. ambassador james jeffrey is the former u.s. ambassador to iraq, turkey and albania and a distinguished fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> your reaction president's plan this week? >> one, this was an important and positive decision. i think it's a mistake to cut down to the 5500. i wish he would have held at 9800. but frankly we'll be at that number throughout most of 2016. and it's up to the next president to take a decision to go back up if he actually does cut to 5500. so a good decision for afghanistan. but more importantly, it's a good decision for our foreign policy. president obama's been arguing that his signature foreign policy goal is ending america's wars. he thinks that would provide security for not only us but the rest of the world. that tragically hasn't happened. and this may well be a reversal
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of course. we have to wait and see. >> what does this tell us, though, about the overall foreign policy that the american people should understand? because, the president has been talking for many years now about pulling troops back, leading from behind, getting out of these wars. did he just miss it? did he just not understand what truly was happening, so he has to reverse back to president -- to -- to more troops? >> it's a good question. first of all, when he came in to office, there was a great deal of public dissatisfaction with hundreds of thousands of american troops sloshing around in afghanistan and iraq doing essentially armed nation building. that wasn't popular and it really wasn't working all that well. he had a point in trying to wind down from that. but he has gone much further on the not executing the red line with libya, not reacting even by sending defensive weapons to
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ukraine, the rather weak reaction to the russian intervention in syria just recently, the slow reaction to isis in iraq. and he basically has avoided almost any use of military force. however, small-scale, and however low risk other than going after terrorists which frankly is an easy no-risk option. the result is, our enemies and opponents are gaining points all over the world from south china see to the ukraine and the baltics. >> this is a really important point that you're making. it leads me to my next question which is what are the implications of more troops on the ground right now in this part of the world? i mean, does this lead to even further connikt? >> i do not think so. i think it will dampen down conflict, because that we've seen since 1945 is the whys, underline wise use of american power has reduced, not increased insecurity and danger around the world. that's the possibility.
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i'm not so sure he gets it yet. we'll have to see if the fight for frankly his views on this matter. what will happen in afghanistan is, these forces will provide the intelligence, counterterrorism, special forces, air support, and command and control that the afghanis need. they'll do 99% of the fighting and frankly dying on the battlefield. but our troops will make them far more effective and that's exactly what the afghans need and what we need, not only there. >> and do you think our troops have a clear understanding of what the strategy is. i mean, too often we speak with the military, and they say they don't necessarily have a coherent strategy to follow. do you think it's very clear-cut at this point what the president is trying to do for our troops? >> it's clearer this week than it was two weeks ago. imagine being a soldier, and those soldiers, that special forces that were fighting in kunduz, and i use the word fighting deliberately, despite what the president says, to
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retake that city and they did with the afghans, retake the city. they weren't sure what they were doing because they were all going to be pulled out within a year and a half. now that he's saying it's the mission that drives our forces. >> yes. >> and the mission is to avoid at least avoid defeat, in other words, although he wouldn't use that word, the "v" word, victory, the troops will be far better motivated. i was one of the last troops in vietnam. i know what it's like to be on a withdrawal. >> ambassador real quick, yes or no answer, do you believe north korea when they say reportedly they want to sign a peace treaty with the u.s. to end 65 years of conflict? >> absolutely not. this is a trick to get around their possession of nuclear weapons. that's a precondition. their battle is not just with us but with south korea and the entire u.n. >> ambassador, good to have you with us on the program today. we appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you. new credit cards with a security chip supposed to help stop fraud. but retailers are running behind on technology needed to process them. we'll talk with the ceo of first
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welcome back. lots of volatility in the stock market. it has some companies scaling back their ipo plans, with first data pushed through. pricing at shares $2 lower than the end of the proposed range last week. there's more news affecting first data which is the leading credit card processing company. the credit card industry now mandating that retailers must update their technology so it's combatible with new credit cards featuring security chips. will the new feature protect your identity better? frank bisignano is the ceo of first data, fresh off the ipo last week. good to see you.
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>> thanks for having me. >> congratulations. seeing you ring the bell on the floor of the new york stock exchange as you took the company public. how you feeling today? >> i feel great. team feels well. big week. big week for this company. >> tell me where the growth comes from at first data going forward. >> well, our growth is, you know, across all our businesses. we serve 4,000 financial institutions. and we serve 6 million business locations. bringing all that together really helping small and medium-sized businesses grow, bringing technology in there, bringing some world-class products. this morning, i got up, it's my daughter morgan's birthday. >> happy birthday, morgan. >> we have a digital gift product. i sent her a digital gift online. you know, that type of commerce enablement completely changing how business operates. >> wow. it really does. it's a new world out there. i want to talk to you about it. let me stay on the company for a moment. you raised all that money this past week. you said that you want to pay down debt. and then you're going to be
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investing. where do you want to invest in the company? >> well, we've been investor, we've bought six start-ups over the past two years. and we paid down debt. we raised $3.5 billion last year, in what we called the historic private placement, delevered the company there, delevered the company again. but our investment will be in helping clients grow their business. bringing technology to businesses. bringing technology to financial institutions. whether it's a fal after el truck on the corner or a pizzeria in brooklyn or kabila's is a great client in the middle of america. >> and how would you characterize that segment of business right now? we have this debate about how strong the economy really is. you know, small businesses are job creators. how would you -- >> well those businesses are still trying to grow. we feel very, very good. we like small business formation. we're there in small business
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formation. you see them beginning to embrace technology. every year you do have a group of them leaving the environment, but i see small business formation, and we want to be the enabler for those small businesses. >> you mentioned a moment ago the digital product that you sent to your daughter. and then there's this idea that there's new chips in credit cards. talk to us about what's going on with regard to security. people are afraid that whatever they do in terms of payment processing, in terms of using the digital -- their digital lives that they're going to get hacked. that they're basically open to vulnerability. >> we're with a company that is on both sides of that. we are a great provider of the chips, and card. we delivered hundreds of millions of those this year. we also delivered a point of sale encryption product, clover, that can be software enabled. it's cloud based. we have a mini version which is
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a complete terminal take-out. so i think it's important that there's a chip on the card that's encrypted, the large retailers have done a fabulous job on this. but i think we're beginning to see the embracing on the small business side. >> i notice the other day, when i went to the store, they wanted my card, and it's a different thing that you do. you just put your card in there because there is a chip. do you think this is going to be more effective at protecting people's information? >> 100%. we need to enscript the data at the point of sale. we need to have the chip on the card. that's the emv movement. but also everyone is securing their internal environments, also. so you know, you need chip, you need encryption, tokenization. it takes the consumer's card and encrypts it. we do that at the point of sale. so i think it's much better. and the movement has begun. but, it's a journey. >> and that, the security products that you have at first
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data, that's probably one of those things that's sort of an unlimited sense for small businesses in a world where we're worried that we are vulnerable. is that true? >> i think it's important that the small business embraces the new terminal. and encryption. you see it happening. their ability to protect themselves is very important. and our job is to help them protect themselves. >> thanks for having you on the program. >> great to be here. >> first data ceo frank bisignano. the obama/putin power struggle continues in syria. our next guest will weigh in on the involvement in the region. he's the author of a new biographer of the secretary of state.
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$6 million in cash and jewelry. if the 48-year-old case sounds familiar it was because it was dramatized in the movie "good fellas." my favorite movies. i'll be back at noon with more news with arthel neville and the doctors as always are in. sunday housecall at 12:30 eastern. back to "sunday morning futures" and maria. a harvard historian criticizing president obama's actions in syria. neil ferguson saying obama is not being tough enough on vladimir putin's intervention there. essentially undoing 40 years of work in the middle east. ferguson also releasing the first volume of his biography on henry kissinger, who helped the u.s. protect its influence during times of crisis in the region, serving as secretary of state and national security
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adviser, to presidents nixon and ford. neil ferguson joins us right now to talk more about it. it's wonderful to see you. congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. >> how would you characterize president obama's foreign policy? >> well i used to think that he just set out to be the anti-bush, to be the opposite of his predecessor, and that was really the tone of the early speeches. remember the cairo speech in 2009 when he essentially said, you know, i come in peace. i think more recently, it's got more complicated, and it's got a lot messier. i think the president began to toy with the idea that he was a grand strategist and was going to create a balance of power in the middle east. bringing sunni and shia powers into some kind of equilibrium. he's really created an explosion of sectarian conflict right across the regions. and i think now he's been checkmated by vladimir putin, the russian president, who as you said a moment ago, has taken the initiative. it's really the first time since
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the early '70s that russians have been in a position to play the part of power broker in the middle east. henry kissinger managed to more or less squeeze them out of the region. so this is a major reverse, not just for the president, but actually for the united states, going back decades. >> yeah, this is very important what you're saying. and of course, just yesterday henry kissinger, doing an op-ed, on the president's strategy in the middle east. and talking, suggesting exactly what you're saying, actually. you wrote this first volume, biography on kissinger. what should we take away from the way he led the state department to what we are seeing today? >> well, maria the first volume goes up to the end of 1968. in other words, it precedes his appointment as national security adviser, and secretary of state. and what i've tried to do in this first of two volumes is explain that this is not necessarily the machiavellian realist that many people imagined him to have been. but in the first half of his
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life, first as a refugee, then as a soldier in the u.s. uniform in post-war germany and finally as an academic, kissinger really was an idealist. he saw, above all else, the need for american freedom to be upheld around the world, against the threat of totalitarianism. >> does president obama see it differently? >> i think he does. because i think one of the themes of the presidency has been the united states is no longer the global policeman. you'll remember in 2013, after yesterday drawn a red line about the use of chemical weapons in syria, when they then had been used, he turned that red line into a pink doctor's line, and told the nation, the united states is no longer the global policeman. that really sent a signal to the world's bad actors that it was game on, and not only vladimir putin took advantage of that in ukraine and more recently in syria, i think iran and other bad actors around the world have seized the opportunity.
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>> and we should also point out that it has impacted our friendships around the world, as well. many of our partners in the middle east were very disappointed by that, and had since looked at the u.s. differently. want to run a sound bite for you, from leon panetta, who was my guest on my morning program, mornings with maria on the fox business network. listen to this, niall. >> there's no question that putin, you know, is trying to take advantage of the situation, he was able to push himself in ukraine. he's now trying to push himself into syria. when you're dealing with a bully you have to draw the line on the bully. i think that's what the united states has to do right now. >> niall, how do we do that? >> well, it's a little late, in truth. because essentially when we turned down putin's proposal for a joint action against islamic state, against isis or isil, if you prefer, just last month putin felt he had a free hand. and now he's essentially working hand in hand with assad, the
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syrian tyrant, to take out all the non-islamic state opponents of the assad regime. until finally we're going to be confronted with a choice between assad or islamic state. i think what we need to do is, "a," follow henry kissinger's suggestion in this weekend's op-ed, and focus on isis. islamic state is a major threat, not just to the middle east, it's potentially a global threat. and we underestimate them at our peril. since 2014, since the decapitation of james foley, the united states has launched airstrikes, many airstrikes, thousands, against islamic state, to no avail. islamic state is still rampant, controlling large tracts, not only of syria, but also of iraq. the number one priority, i think, has to be taking out islamic state and reasserting american leadership in the region. sitting back, as the president has been and tried to do for far
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too long since the beginning of the misnamed arab spring allows others to take the initiative and in this case it's allowed russia to take the initiative. notice the longer the president has hesitated the more the violence has escalated. if you just look at battlefield fatalities, since 2010, up worldwide by a factor of four. victims of terrorism in the same time frame, up by a factor of six. and this is really quite shocking. most people i think watching will assume, hey, the middle east is violent, it's normally violent. it was violent last year, it will be violent next year. they're missing an exponential growth in violence, and a geographical spread of violence from the middle eastern heartland, if you will, right through north africa, into sub-saharan africa and right across in the other direction as far as afghanistan and pakistan. the longer you play the game of kicking the can down the road, the more the conflict escalates, and the spillovers ultimately will reach this country, make no mistake. they're already being felt in
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europe, in the form of a huge refugee crisis. but i'm more worried about the way that terrorism is being spread internationally on an unprecedented scale. that ultimately is going to be brought home to the united states. there's no use pretending otherwise. >> niall, really important points that you're making. and now, of course, we also see the president back tracking, and keeping the troops in afghanistan. niall, love to have you on this program. please come back soon. thanks very much for your insights this morning. >> thanks, maria. >> niall ferguson joining us there. top of the hour, media buzz, howie, good morning to you. >> good morning, maria. we'll look at whether the press began swooning over hillary clinton after her strong democratic debate performance and the odds of joe biden getting in seem to have cooled quite a bit. donald trump, ben carson, ted cruz, hillary all combining loudly that their coverage is unfair, that they're the victims of media bias. brit hume will weigh in on that one. >> see you at the top of the
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hour. we've wondered for weeks if joe biden will run for president. the answer does not lock like it's imminent. the political panel breaks down what that could mean for the campaign. we'll look ahead next with our panel. stay with us.
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welcome back. vice president joe biden leaning toward a presidential bid, but a definitive answer may be weeks away. ed henry reporting biden is calling his fellow democrats in key states like iowa and new hampshire, the vp telling them he may jump into the race over the next month. are his supporters willing to keep playing the waiting game? ed rawlins, former principle white house adviser to president reagan has been a long time strategist for business and political leaders. judith villa, adjunct fellow at
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the manhattan university for policy research. and robert wolf with us today the ceo of 32 advisers former ubs ceo and former adviser to president obama. good to see everybody. thanks so much for joining us. will joe biden enter the race? what do you think? >> my gut tells me he will. i think his head's always been there. i think day by day it gets there. and i think, you know, it always was going to be towards the jefferson, jackson in iowa towards the end of the month and that will not surprise me if he came in. but you know, people getting impatient, you know, i think people like joe. but, my view is after the secretary's incredibly strong debate, the path is a bit narrower. >> i think he said to one of his associates on one of the democratic associates that he's not going to allow the debate to dictate what he does here. even though hillary clinton did have a good debate. >> nor should any candidate have one debate you know dictate what the path is.
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16 months is a lifetime. >> what do you think? >> i think the window is really closing when even barbara boxer says that he's got to articulate a reason why he needs to be an alternative. and given her strong performance, and given the fact that she has raced $77 million, and bernie, $40 million, the pac, the super pac that's formed around him, says it's on target to raise $3 million. ultimately it comes down to money. >> that's true. >> i don't know if he's going run or not and i think at the end of the day it's not going to make a bit of difference. i think first of all, there's nobody on that stage other than hillary clinton that could be president the other night. joe biden certainly could give her a good run for her money but the rest of them ought to just drop out and move forward. >> they want a cabinet position. >> what i've learned over 50 years in this game is you don't necessarily get cabinet positions by losing. you know, he's the vice president of the united states today so at the end of the day he's got his position. i think that if he doesn't, he
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underestimates the task of putting together a national campaign. there is no obama campaign in place. the good operatives have all gone to hillary. the money people have gone to hillary. she's raised a tremendous amount of money and reinforced the democratic party by her performance. she can be a stable candidate. >> what i'm hearing is probably he will enter the race. >> seems to me the secretary took the obama platform and did an incredible job at the debate. she also has her own ideas to expand and extend, and i also think, you know, money talks. and the secretary had over half a million donors to date. and has 33 million on hand. i know you're going to talk about it. but i think it's three times more than any republican candidate on hand. >> yeah. >> money matters. >> we talk about money, that's for sure. >> i know that the benghazi hearing will be over at the end of this week. but the e-mail problem for her lingers. that is, at this point, i think, the major obstacle for her. >> well, bernie sanders says
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we're all sick and tired of the damn e-mails. >> but the justice department is not. >> and as mccarthy said in his own way, what kind of, you know, that e-mail was a bit more political. so listen, i think that the benghazi issue is certainly one that the secretary will hopefully put to bed this week. and i think this e-mail issue is not what the country wants to discuss. they want to discuss foreign policy and jobs on the economy. >> for sure. they want to discuss the issues. >> as i said many, many times, i spent a large period of my life working in the white house, the big lift to go challenge a former sect, person that's the front-runner, i think on a legal issue. the fbi, obviously looking hard and fast at whether she properly handled those e-mails. but it has to go somewhere to get an indictment, and moving forward and i just don't think that's going to happen. i just don't think there's a smoking gun there. i think she made bad, bad judgments and bad mistakes but i think the president's going to recover and to a certain extent she's going to be the nominee to
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beat. >> let's talk about the figures in the third quarter of fund-raising for presidential pefuls. our panel sticks around to break down those numbers. we're looking ahead. we're looking ahead. we'll be right b ♪ ♪ (charge music) you wouldn't hire an organist without hearing them first. charge! so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. with their airline credit card miles. sometimes those seats cost a ridiculous number of miles... or there's a fee to use them. i know. it's so frustrating. they'd be a lot happier with the capital one venture card. and you would, too! why? it's so easy with venture. you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day.
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welcome back, a look at the gop fund-raising numbers. ben carson leading the pack among hopefuls bringing in just under $21 million. marco rubio rounding out the top five. we're back with our panel ed, give me your take? >> my takes are the numbers are terrible. we have six or seven candidates that ought to drop out today. jindal can't raise month. lindsey graham and rand paul who are ideological candidates. they all ought to drop out, trump, carson, rubio, cruz,
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maybe carly and kasich are the ones that should be left. >> what strikes me is ben carson's numbers and base, the fact he's racing most of that 20 million came from contributions of under $200. that's amazing. it says his message is resonating among republican voters. >> the only problem, raising it the way he has, is that it costs a lot of money to raise it, it's costing him 50, 60 cents for every dollar he raises. it's not how much you raise, but how much do you have left to spent? those i talked about have no money left to spend. $700,000 is not even a good congressional race. >> i think you have tore concerned right now with six candidates with all $10 million on hand, and the secretary is building a huge infrastructure.
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i think to ed's point, it seems like, you know, they should cut half the field so people can corral around certain candidates. i think the secretary learned from '08, you need money to run long term. i think her holding back on money today has been a smart thing. >> money is the first primary. you cannot run without money. and this thing starts moving really quick, this is a bad quarter usually, and my sense is we ought to follow walker's advice, and he said a lot of these guys should get out. >> bill clinton is starting to campaign for the secretary. my gut tells me they'll be able to raise money with probably one of the best communicators. >> donald trump is now taking money. the big worry he has, not having a professional team that understands the laws, he may get into trouble by using money donated to a super-pac, big dollars being spent for other
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things that aren't. there's a major publication looking hard at him misspending the super-pac money. >> are you concerned bush is touting this hundred million that's all super-pac that he's cutting staff. >> i never understood a campaign in miami and $100 million sitting in malibu with mike murphy, an old friend of mine, who has control of it. he can't take day to day,w a super-pac. the testimony on thursday, is it a wild card for the second tear? >> i actually don't. i think she's been up there, a myriad of times, she's answered all the questions, and unfortunately, i think this is partisan politics. partisan politics. we'll at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason?
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it. >> and john kerry's emergency summit in the middle east prevent a day of rage from becoming weeks of war. >> i certainly hope ryan does it so we don't have a government shutdown. good evening, everybody, i'm lou dobbs. president obamas a promised to end the war in afghanistan by with drawing all our troops and president obama maintains he'll maintain our current force of ten,000 troops there through most of next year and the president plans to keep 5,500 troops in afghanistan as he leaves office an extension he called modest but meaningful. the president conceded that despite the longest war in this country's history afghan forces are not up to the task of protecting their country from a resurgent taliban, a persistent group of al qaeda terrorists and th

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