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and pushing for peace in israel but has america lost its ability to affect any change in the middle east? . melissa: but first the dow turning positive, it is inching higher as the closing bells sound on wall street right now. here's a look at the numbers where we are ending the day here as you can see the bell closing there and right now the dow up about 20 points. 19 points a tenth of a percent, the s&p just inching in the positive territory, the nasdaq four-tenths of a percent. david: and while markets wait for tomorrow, here's everything you need to know right now. donald trump doubling down on his heated battle against jeb bush over the 9/11 world trade center attacks. tension escalating after trump slammed former president bush on fox news on sunday. joining me now with the very latest, blake berman live from washington d.c. what's the -- i saw the back and forth once. i imagine it has gone even further. >> yeah. this happened yesterday then kind of trump renewed it a little bit today
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as we've seen throughout. this campaign, donald trump is willing to pick a fight with jeb bush. this reemerged in an interview last week when the republican frontrunner mentioned how the world trade center was attacked under the watch of his brother. well, yesterday fox news sunday trump was asked if george w but she was to blame and then jeb bush appeared on a different sunday morning talk show. >> the world trade center came down so when he said we're safe, we were not safe, lost 3,000 people, probably one of the greatest catastrophes in the country. >> my brother responded to a crisis, and he did it as you would hope a president would do. mr. trump talks as things as if he's still on the apprentice. >> and adding to that trump said the tragedy of 9/11 would not have unfolded of his watch because of his tuff immigration stances. meanwhile fox and friends this morning he isn't blaming george w bush but later took to twitter to take another
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swipe at jeb bush and wrote quote jeb is fighting to defend a catastrophic event. i am fighting to make sure it doesn't happen again. jeb is too soft. we need tougher and sharper. david. david: okay. we've got a panel on that very topic coming up within this hour. blake, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: hillary clinton will face the benghazi committee this week and new details on what led to the attack, documents obtained by fox news revealed a pattern of mismanagement at the most senior levels. and in dc with the details. kathryn, a lot here. >> well, melissa, it thank you and good afternoon. in the year leading up to the 2012 terrorist attack, there were 234 incidents in libya, and including this attempt on the british ambassador in 2012 when a rocket-propelled agree nade struck his vehicle. and while this intelligence was shared with the state department here in washington, no additional security was added.
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and this from july 2012 two months before the attack shows ambassador stevens requested 13 additional security personnel to help him safely travel around the country. that request was turned down by mrs. clinton deputy patrick kennedy who was the state department chief administrator perform after the attack, the libya told investigators that he had to choose between guarding the airport, their lifeline to the outside world and sending security with ambassador stevens to benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11. he chose to reinforce the airport. >> the real problem is not that he made the choice that he did, but he was forced into a choice of that nature where you couldn't do both things, which were probably necessary. you could only do one. also run by a country called blue mountain libya was in such a ray on september 11,
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2012 the documents suck they did not have a valid to license operate in benghazi on that day. a claim rejected today by the state department. >> but the bottom line there was no gap in the guard service. we recognize there was this contract dispute between the two entities but no gap in the provision of these guards on the ground in benghazi at the time. >> well, close deputy to ambassador stevens has been reported the personnel dropped from 38 to just 8 at the time of his death. melissa. melissa: wow. a lot of new details, we'll see what comes from it. thank you, katherine for that report. david. david: meanwhile a hacker reported to the new york post the head of the cia may have been hacked. a source of law enforcement telling fox news the fbi is looking into allegations that cia director personal aol account has been hacked. the hacker contacted the new york post, the alleged hacker. the fbi has declined to comment on the investigation. and the cia has released this
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statement quote we are aware of the reports that have surfaced on social media and referred the matter to the appropriate authorities. melissa. melissa: violence in israel intensifying following a fatal bus station shoot-out. this as secretary of state john kerry prepares to meet with prime minister benjamin netanyahu in an attempt to restore peace in the area. connor powell has the latest developments from jerusalem. >> and, melissa, the violence here in a few months several weeks on going now showing for signs of letting up any time soon, another attack last night, israel officials say grabbing a weapon from a soldier, shot and killed both a soldier and injured 11 other people at the bus station in southern israel last night. now, an unnamed man, afternoon
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man from the country was also killed by valleyy security officials who believed that he was like part of the attack, prime minister netanyahu has offered his condolences but also said today that israel will continue to fight terror attacks, secretary of state john kerry is headed to the region to meet with both netanyahu and palestinian president. he is groom r trying to find a way to stop what he says is the senseless violence going on here. what exactly he can do to influence the violence here is the big question that the israeli described these attacks as loan wolf attackers and don't take their cues from palestinian leaders. the french have put a proposal to put international observers on the temp compound, this is one of those spots that has sparked the violence that we've seen here for three weeks as reports and rumors that israeli jewish groups were trying to push for greater access here. it's a move that israeli officials have denied, but it
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has sparked outrage amongst the society here in israel in the west bank. and that offers french national observers has been rejected by israeli officials and the u.s. israel simply does not want anymore international servers on property and land here, not really trusting the un and right now it doesn't appear that secretary of state john kerry's trip to the region offers much hope to end the violence, but he is continuing on and is going to continue to press for what he said is a mission that doesn't have a lot of hope but one that he will continue to press for because of the need to stop what he said is senseless violence. melissa. melissa: corn, thank you so much for that report. we're going to have more on that coming up later on the show but right now ibm without with their third quarter earnings results, lori has the numbers and we're seeing selling in this stock. >> yeah. and no surprise considering a big sales miss for ibm, 13 perverse year over year that they've posted
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declining sales. $19.3billion versus 19.62 billion in revenue, ibm was expected to earn according to wall street analyst. interesting, though, 3.40 share versus 3.30 cents statement. shares are down 3.5% in the session, and $5, again, or 3.5%. the company announcing h that they're continuing to make investments, trying to spend positive but they're focused on analytics, cloud, mobility, and security. but we all know cloud computing has become incredibly competitive space, amazon has more than 80% of that market share, so ibm trying to make itself new and fresh by entering that cloud arena. but so far hasn't been able to monetize it. back to you guys. . melissa: all right. thank you so much, lori. kevin kelly of recon, investors here to break this down, jason, i mean that makes
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it 14 straight quarters of declining sales for ibm. missing on revenue as they try to make this transition. you can see investors aren't happy, what do you make of it? >> you know, i think if you're not in ibm yet, i think now's a good time. i think with ibm patience is going to ultimately be a virtue. you know, they're not a small company, they're making billions of dollars, they have new management, i think if you've been in ibm over the past year and a half, i'm sorry, you're going to have to wait longer but right now with the stock down 30% in 18 months, this is an incredible value. that's really my verdict. melissa: wow. holy catch the falling knights, kevin, do you agree with that assessment that jason's making? >> couldn't disagree anymore. you know, if you're a tech investor and sales haven't risen, especially 14 quarters, then what are you doing in the stock? and they haven't been able to transition, they keep making
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these investments, go back to 2013 when they bought soft layer, a cloud computing company that was supposed to deliver results. hasn't done really anything to move the needle. their legacy investments are dragging on the stock, they haven't been able to grow through the cloud, which they're trying to do. i mean. melissa: yeah. >> why would you catch this falling knight? . melissa: it's trying to turn a giant tanker when you have a company like this that has been in the wrong business and trying to get in, even amazon beat them into the cloud space. it's really a big task to turn around something like this and reinvent the company and they're trying to do it, you know, as a public stock with everyone watching. just seems like it's going to be almost impossible from here. >> almost being the key word. it's not impossible. the thing is they have the patents, they have the resources okay? and, first of all, they're strategic. it grew 30% in the first half of this year, so they are starting to make headway into the future, it's going to take some time.
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down 30% in the past year and a half, i would get in. melissa: okay. we're going to leave it there. thanks, guys. david: a split decision. well, another area in which there's another split decision, the iran deal, now officially in effect. president obama signing the order over the weekend, the administration claims this is going to pave the way for reduction in iran's nuclear activity and greater international oversight of its program but critics strongly disagree with that sentiment. all sides, though, do agree that the deal opens the floodgates for iran to get richer by openly selling its once embargoed oil. oil officials says the country has already secured buyers to purchase over 500,000 barrels a day in new exports of crude oil when sanctions are lifted. the news sending oil futures lower. . melissa: all right. republican presidential hopeful rick polling below 1% in contrast to trump and carson leading in the low 20s.
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coming up we're going to ask how he plans to gain more support ahead of next week's debate. david: also ask him about the trump, bush fight that's going on here. meanwhile weight watchers packing on a heavy hitting investor. we're going to tell you who's responsible for driving that stock over 118% today alone. melissa: and the mets chalking up another win in the playoffs. that back to the future prediction of the cubs winning it all this year. they only exist on the silver screen. we'll see. at mfs investment management, we believe active management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can seek to outperform. that's the power of active management. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift?
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because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. david: well, thousands of religious conservatives gathered this weekend to hear six of the republican candidates for president but who was not there? frontrunner donald trump, is that their sign the influence over the gop may be weighing a little bit? and rick, great to see you.
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>> thank you, david. great to be back. david: so make a church event, a lot of candidates but no donald trump makes me wonder. faith in america i believe as you do that it is under attack in various areas, whether it's obamacare and others. but i'm wondering whether people actually care more about the economy right now than they do about faith issues. >> well, you know, i don't think it's one or the other. i think poof people -- i think everybody should be concerned when you have points of view that are under attack by a government saying that unless you hold a particular point of view, we're got an tolerate your incident. david: but it's not going to be until it affects their pocketbook that they're up in arms about it. >> no. that's probably to you. you talk about religious persecution, we have nothing compare to what's going on in the middle east or africa, so it's hard to scream and holler about how terrible things are. but things are beginning to turn. you see things that you never saw in american history before
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and that -- i think people just need to be on the alert that this is a -- this could be a growing problem. david: now, you were very open, you call yourself a catholic and george but she was open about it, brought it into the debate but donald trump doesn't, he keeps a more private view of his faith and issues, i'm wondering that's what most americans prefer is a private faith holding. >> well, you are who you are. and, you know, everybody is -- has some grounding principles. some moral principles by which you live your life, and you determine what's right and wrong. i'm just pretty clear about what that is for me. what that is for me is the bible and my faith and those are sort of the touchstones for me by which i make decisions what is right and wrong. i gather evidence and information and use reason too. but it's part of my mosh code that i try to live my life by and he may have a different one.
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here's what i say. at least you know where i am. it's pretty transparent, i'm a catholic, been around a couple thousand years, you have a pretty good idea what i'm thinking on these. david: what do you make of this flap of him and jeb on 9/11? >> you know, i -- i was there on 9/11, and i think everyone would have given our whatever is necessary to prevent that. and if the implication was, well, you know, that you were somehow responsible for it, sure, i was there, i i was responsible, it was on my watch, but somehow you didn't do with it. david: he would have done more to prevent these people coming in. first they came in before george but she was president. >> that's right. so the implication was that somehow or another that there was some personal attempt to the events. i'm not -- that's not fair. i don't think that's true. if you look at the -- what happened in the reports after
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9/11, you know, intelligence community didn't connect a lot of dots. we didn't have to connect those dots in the past because we weren't looking for this type of attacks in the past, and you can see we're pretty good at preventing terrorist attacks now. david: there's a poll in pennsylvania, pennsylvaniaians say maybe it's time for you to get out. what do you say? >> well, one of the things that i know is that america loves both an under dog and a winner. and right now i'm a under dog, and i intend to be a winner. so we're approaching this thing just the way we did four years ago, a poll out four years ago today that had us at 1% four years ago and two and a half months later i won the iowa caucuses. well, i've got three and a half months now, plenty of time for us to move up in this race. david: thank you very much. great to see you, senator. melissa. melissa: patience. you must have. get it? i tried. tickets sold out, may the
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melissa: the force awakens tonight, did you know that? david: , no. melissa: tickets for the new star wars movie go on sale during monday night football with huge demand, causing problems overseas and it is uk bulking under the pressure of the force. here to break it all down, ceo, you know, i remember way back when when disney bought the franchise for $4 billion and people went $4 billion? now that's looking like a deal they think this movie could make 2 billion alone at the box office, morgan stanley was estimating that. did they get a bargain? >> just think what they're
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going to do with it, the movie is going to make half of their investment back and then tieins, star wars world at the parks, toys, everything you can think of. this is really just a branding juggernaut. melissa: what is it about this movie that makes it such a juggernaut, especially the extra ones, my kids call them the bad ones, the three latest. i mean what -- how does this brand continue to dominate even though there have been some miss steps? >> you know, i have to tell you, i don't get it, i've never been a huge fan, it doesn't make any sense to me. however, it takes the transitional story of the human experience, there's been books written on how you tell a story and this was the perfect example, the good, the bad, the hero, having that moment of truth, the greek myths, the greek legends and people just love it.
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melissa: yeah, that's true. david. david: here's something else, weight watchers to oprah's list, she made $15 million of her stake that she bought in the company that she bought friday, so congratulations but is she the right fit for this company? >> this is what branding is all about. every time i'm on the show we talk about authentic truth and here you have it. she's believable, she's had weight struggles, she's incredibly is successful, she's a role model, and she's sincere. this is what you call made in heaven. this is perfect. david: she's lost weight, but she's put it back on and then lost it and then -- somebody who goes back and forth, is that the right model for weight watchers? >> of course. because for somebody like you who has a great if i sa stature and doesn't care about it, that's not your reality. david: yeah. >> but for people and women who struggle with their
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weight, what they see is their hero going through the same problems. you know it's similar to the star wars story. the universal truth well told. david: there you go. it's all connected. by the way, that stock has gone from $80 back in 2011 down to $2 now, so it's got quite a chug to make it back where it was but we'll see if she can do it. melissa: i feel her brand is more self acceptance rather than weight loss. maybe she'll change the weight watchers brand. david: a lot of investors are counting on it. melissa: why we're talking about how many pairs of underwear bernie sanders owns. david: something says i don't want want to know. melissa: well, there's more to it. david: and amazon filing a suit for stop phony reviews, did you know people pay $5 to write the fake reviews? you don't want to miss this. coming up
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>> i'm the only candidate up here who's not a billionaire. i don't have a super pack, i don't even have a backpack. i carry my stuff loose in my arms like a professional. you know, between classes. i own one pair of underwear. that's it. some of these billionaires, they've got three, four pairs. and i don't have a drier. i have to put my clothes on the radiator. [laughter] . melissa: that was larry david
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of course playing bernie sanders on saturday night live this weekend but rest assured, sanders has this to say in response. >> last week i bought my second pair of underwear. that's a joke. melissa: joking aside, sanders also making news this weekend by vowing to raise taxes on everyone. everyone to pay for family lead for all americans if he's elected president. joining many now, judy miller, alan combs, hosted the alan combs show, and former political advisor to senator frank latinberg and also a fox news contributor. that was a phenomenal impression. i mean -- >> i've a raging crush on larry david for, like, 20 years. melissa: wow. >> but i will say that's why. melissa: hysterical. it helps bernie sanders. >> he wants to keep going, he wants larry david on the campaign trail with him now.
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melissa: exactly. you can't tell the difference between them. that's for sure. i'm not sure raising taxes on everyone is going to achieve what bernie sanders wants. >> no. i don't think goodnights promote his plan for democratic socialism. i think while people might like some of his specific gimmes for people and while we really do need many more -- much more help for women who are -- should be encouraged to get back into the workforce, i don't think the american people are going to tolerate another tax. >> well, he was honest and specific. this is for the purpose of medical and family leave, women who can get three months off when they're pregnant with pay whereas every other civilized country does this and we should be part of that civilized world. melissa: the solution, how do you pay for something like that? >> he's talking about how to pay for that. >> this proposal is a 1 .38 dollars a week, that's, like, less than a latte, that's nothing.
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melissa: 1 .38 dollars a week, pay people more for minimum wage and all of these different things are going to be paid for by higher taxes, i did notice hillary clinton jumped on the ban wagon. anything that panders has to say, but does it help her? >> i don't think they agree on everything, but i think it's very good that he is helping move the party into a more populous point of view, which i hope continuous to be the case should she be elected president. >> look, we are headed for a pension catastrophe in this country. look at the deficits. this is insane. we have got to start talking now about a new set of commitments that will be federally funded with taxpayer dollars. melissa: money that would come out of thin air because when you look at how deeply we are in debt and having this on the other side of the ledger about the fact that we have to raise the debt ceiling and talking about new spending, let me turn you to one more topic because we're going to agree
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to disagree on this one i think. >> yes. melissa: for sure. turning now to joe biden and the will he or won't he speculation expected to announce any day now whether he's going to run for president. i happen to think he's going to. julie, what do you think? >> yeah. melissa: go ahead. >> i keep hearing he is, who knows, we've been hearing this for two or three months now and i'm a huge joe biden fan, i love him, but i don't know if there's any room in the party for him right now. and hillary -- melissa: it seemed like there was a lot of room on the stage, though. >> at the debate. >> at the podium. melissa: you basically have two candidates. >> right. melissa: and hillary clinton, it seems -- she's been the frontrunner for a long time although it doesn't seem there's a lot of genuine enthusiasm, that's where bernie sanders come from. it seems joe biden picks a lot of that up and a lot of people saying it's too late. >> i think you have a divide in the democratic party, as you point out, i don't see the niche for joe biden giving hillary has to find herself in
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this campaign, part of me hoping he doesn't do this. melissa: i don't know if it's a niche. >> or attack mode, how do you break through? >> i don't understand how he does this. i know many, many democrats want him in the race, and i know the distrust figures for hillary are very high. however, he doesn't have an organization, he doesn't have money, she has $30 million, he doesn't even have an articulated reason for getting into the race right now. so why would he do it. melissa: all of these people saying run, run, it doesn't seem too late for a candidate that everybody is excited about on the side where there seems to be this vacuum. >> you're always as popular until the day you come into the race, and then the one thing i hope that the other side does not do is start saying, oh, poor joe biden he's not mentally equipped because what happened in his life, which i'm starting to get the sense. melissa: of course they're going to do that. >> and shame on them if they do --
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>> it would never go. they would never do that. melissa: we're going to leave it there. david. david: wow. split decision. by the way, i think he won't run. meanwhile the treasury out on a report on exchange-rate policies. blake berman has all the details. blake, what stood out in this report? >> well, this is the semi annual report, david, to congress, and the united states treasury is calling on china to appreciate its currency. the term that they're using here. they would like to see it, they say it remains below quote appropriate medium term valuation. as you know earlier this summer in august china devalued its currency now the treasury is calling on them to appreciate their currency, though, they have not labeled china a currency manipulator that has been the same in the past, to allow currency to flow more freely and now we are getting this report to congress the united states treasury telling them to allow
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the currency of china to appreciate. david: very interesting, blake, thank you very much. let's go to robert bloom, an investment banker who lives in beijing, we're happy to say he's in canada for a couple of days before he goes back to china. bottom line, robert, are they thinking of devaluing? we heard rumors athat they may devalue 15% before the end of the year. what do you know? >> they could do that. i don't know anything, everything's a state secret in china from the most basic policy. but this thing the fed -- the treasury telling them to, you know, appreciate the yen, you know, the market last time i checked there's a capital flight out of china all of the pressure and the offshore futures market, it's all downward. sharon: and particularly, there's a little bit of hypocrisy, is there not when the fed is talking down the dollar and suggesting that their got an raise rates because they're worried about
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the dollar getting too strong, in other words, they're kind of devaluing or putting a top on the valuation of our dollar but they're telling the chinese to do the opposite. >> yeah. that's right. well, you know, it's all the trade lobbying and so on, it's not convenient to have a lower value yen but from a political point of view, it's stating everything. capital is making insurance, capital is working. david: but the chinese are desperate, i don't have to tell you, you live there, they're worried about their economy slowing down, today they came out with the 6.9 figure which sounds robust, 6.9% economy growth for us would be spectacular. do you believe that number and if not how far off is it? >> nobody believes it. you know, the standard view it's at least 2% off. you know, and it's -- as things go on, china's growth rate, u.s.' growth rate is going to be the same. no more catch up, you know?
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david: well, is the government intervention which markets here are frankly too optimistic about, very often if china says they're going to intervene in the market in whatever form that takes, our markets go up, european markets go up, is that intervention helping or hurting the chinese economy? >> of course it hurts the chinese economy. david: how. specifically, report. >> they just announced too i can add deflation, look what that does to borrowers, they're already overlevers, we already know that. how is more debt going to help? this isn't the time anymore. david: robert bloom lives most of the time in china, today in canada, melissa. melissa: amazon suing its own in an attempt to expand its campaign against fake product reviews on its website. the online realitieser is suing more than 1,000 people who are misleading amazon's customers by selling fake reviews or products. for more detail on this new case, diedre bolton joins us
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now. >> this is amazing, and it is illegal. why -- exactly why amazon is suing as you mentioned around 1,000 participants. so it seems you and i can go online, write a review, and if we were this makes way, we could charge businesses starting at $5 or more. so one of the reporters who discovered this story at the new yorker.com, the editor there nick thompson said basically when you look at a company with amazon's size and tech talent, it's really up to amazon to write better algorithms to kind of filter these fake results and as far as his research goes, he thinks between 15 and 20% of every review that we read online amazon and other sites is fake. so that just gives you an example of just how big this is. so you said it. amazon is suing other companies as well, yelp just another one which had to crack down on that a couple of years ago. melissa: i never believe those
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reviews anyway. i just assume. >> that your cousin owns that restaurant. melissa: that's right. thank you so much. we're going to see you at the top of the hour for risk and reward. david. david: well, the u.s. calling for an end of violence in israel by brokering a deal but does anyone over there listen to us anymore? when a moment turns romantic why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night.
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melissa: palestinian relations worsen, the as you say attempting to step in and end the violence. secretary of state john kerry doesn't think it is necessary for international presence at temple mount, the religious site at the center of the deadly unrest. then what is kerry's plan in the east? and manhattan institute adjunct fellow and intelligence offer. now, what do you think secretary kerry is going to propose? >> well, the first thing is the french solution is
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completely -- frankly it's an israeli problem, they can solve it from the tactical perspective, this is a police issue. the larger question is what are has plaguing for decades now, which is what is the strategic solution to end this conflict. melissa: yeah, and against the backdrop of all of that, they sit down and talk and benjamin netanyahu has to be sitting down saying, by the way, i hated that iran deal. how does that black drop really change the sort of tone of anything going forward? >> i think the question you're raising is exactly the right one which is does kerry and do the united states together have the credibility needed to move the peace process forward. let's forget that kerry already tried this. do you remember when he was going to solve the palestinian israeli crisis in one year? well, that was the very beginning of his term and it hasn't happened, it's not going to happen, what he can do? he can calm things down. he can reassure the arabs that
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the israelis have no intention of changing the status of the temple mount, they will not prevent muslims from praying he's got to buy some time to calm things down. melissa: do you think he can do that. >> as judy is saying, he has lost a lot of credibility, especially what's going on in syria, and i've got to look at the other countries and they look at us and say what prestige do we bring to the table. melissa: well, there's a reason he's going to be there, always an opportunity for a diplomat to ask something when you have someone there, what do you think they ask him there on either side? >> you know, it's -- who are we negotiating with here? the palestinians. melissa: we love to give stuff away. so there's always that opportunity. give something else away. >> he's not going to come with a plan. >> yeah. >> he's going to come and ask each side to do things to lower the temperature. look, right now the palestinians are calling this the knife. they've got to stop this
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stabbing spree against israelis and the palestinians have to cut out the rhetoric and the palestinians have to remind the israelis that there is a peace process and they're still under operation and the knifings are happening because the palestinians don't want the israelis breathing down their neck. buying time. that's the best that can happen right now. melissa: we're going to leave it right there. thank you to the both of you. david. david: meanwhile tattle the field on the national league playoffs between the mets and the cubs. one team now has their backs against the wall heading into chicago. also donald trump, he doubled down in his feud with jeb bush over 9/11. our candidate battle coming up
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coming into this country. i believe that if i were running things, i doubt those families would have -- i doubt those people would have been in the country. david: all right. back with us, judy miller, alan, and judy. we've got -- first of all, if he's blaming bush for the 9/11 attack, they arrived here before but she was nothing rated and some of them came here, illegally, they overstayed their welcome. but if he was in bush's place, his immigration policies wouldn't have affected their being here at all. >> this is absolutely outrageous. this is like blaming f abou fdr for the bombing. president clinton. david: let her finish. >> had an opportunity to kill bin laden and didn't it's in dick clark's book and not exactly.
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david: alan, you and i don't agree on much but can we agree that george bush was not responsible? in fact, let me play a sound byte, let's play the sound byte and get alan to react. >> the implication was that somehow or another there was a -- some personal attachment to the events, that's not true, i don't think that happened, if you look at the reports of what happened after 9/11, intelligence community didn't connect a lot of dots. david: wouldn't you agree? >> i'm not going to say it was bush's fault, he was in field office nine months, he had the debriefing which he probably didn't pay a lot of attention to. david: we know about that great wall that existed between the two committees. >> watch this guy bin, but it sounds.
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david: it sounds like he's taking the trump line. the candidates, will hillary and bernie again to sound like trump on this. >> i truly have no idea, i don't think anyone wants to sound like donald trump but, you know, there's richard clark and very interesting point that he made, which is that he resigned or threatened to resign over the fact that he's begging and pleading -- judy, you're nodding your head because you know i'm right? >> that's true. david: wasn't clark also begging the clinton administration to take him out when he had a clear shot. >> yes. david: hold on. i'm asking judy. do you mind? >> there's a lot of blame to go around. but blame is not the solution. and it doesn't prevent the next 9/11. 9/11 commission says that everyone forgotten is something that president obama forgotten, which is the most important thing you need in terms of government talking, connecting the dots is transparency and communication and president obama has been
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the least transparent president we've had in a long time. >> jeb bush did not help himself by tweeting out, my brother -- you know, my brother kept us. we were attacking and my brother kept us safe. that doesn't help him because he's pointing out that the attack did happen on his brother -- watch. david: the point is what jeb is saying his brother helped keep us safe after. >> after the attack that happened on his watch. >> he set up that debate and said my brother kept us safe, that's an insult to the 3,000 people who died and if he brings that up, that only hurts him. david: that's gob the last word, ladies and gentlemen, and be sure to tune in tomorrow, by the way, for more on this with varney's interview with presidential candidate donald trump. varney and trump together, you do not want to miss that. 9:00 a.m. right here on fbn. >> that's a ticket. melissa: it's back y'all. hillary clinton's southern accent has resurfaced. is it worse than last time,
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>> i remember after that election in '92 him saying to me, it's so much worse than they told us. and so he had to roll up his sleeves and work hard. at the end of eight years, we had 23 million new jobs, incomes were rising at the top. the middle, working folks, poor people. david: working folks. many folks listening to hillary clinton's speech in alabama harkening back to the days in 2007 when hillary was clearly faking a southern accent when she was on the campaign trail back then. listen to this blast from the trash. >> i don't feel no ways tired. i come too far from where i started from. nobody told me that the road would be easy. david: now that was a faked accent. >> here's the problem with the first clip. she didn't sound like that the day before. and didn't sound like that the day after. david: absolutely true.
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>> only sounded like that during that speech to those people. that is what feels inauthentic. not fact she was not from the south and raised in illinois and went to school in massachusetts and worked in d.c. david: good point. the word prior and hard were the two fake accents. that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts right now [gunfire] dierdre: israeli soldier and bystander both dead after bus station attack in southern israel. welcome to "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. a shooting rampage ended with two fatalities and 10 wounded, before police shot the gunman and killed him. former state department official brian huff is with me now. brian, u.s. secretary of state john kerry john kerry is seeking ways to move calm, in his words and move thifo

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