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to use the easy bake oven. >> who won? good morning. countdown is on. we're two days away until we hear what the gop hopefuls will do about the economy. good morning, everyone. i'm maria bartiromo, welcome to "sunday morning futures." as i prepare to co-moderate tuesday's upcoming debate in milwaukee, on town with with candidates, marco rubio and carly fiorina to get their take on the economy, the military and taxes. ben carson under fire for his west point story now. so is it a fabrication or is the media to blame what he says? which gop candidate's tax plan would work best for you and your family and the nation's economy. one of america's leading economists will join me live as
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we take a look at each candidate's proposal, today on "sunday morning futures." >> the fourth republican presidential he did badebate tw away. tuesday night 9:00 p.m. eastern, florida senator marco rubio seeing a recent surge in the polls, latest fox news poll has rubio tide for third place with ted cruz at 11%. senator rubio just unveiling his military agenda late last week. senator rubio joins me now. congratulations, up to number three. you've been really surging in the polls last couple of debates. to what do you attribute that to? >> we have a campaign that continues to talk about who we are and what we would do given the opportunity to be president. and i think as i've always said, as we continue to do that and more people hear it, i think our support will continue to grow. polls go up and down. i'm not overly focused on the polls. but i can notice in the early states we have been visiting more interest and more support
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for our campaign. we'll continue to do that. we'll give people the kind of campaign they're looking for. >> i think your story is, son of a bartender, mother was the hotel maid, people resonate with the hard working mentality of your upbringing and you've been telling that story. >> it is the essence of what makes america special. almost every other society in history trafstory traps you in circumstances of your birth. if you work hard, and you persevere, you can get ahead and improve your life. and that's what i fear we're losing. that perhaps is the most important issue we confront economically, more and more people are starting to believe that that, that upward mobility, we call the american dream, is not going to be possible for them. if we lose that, we stop being a special country. >> let me talk about your military plan. you unveiled this late last week. you're saying you want to begin to undo that $1 trillion of indiscriminate cuts to the defense budget. >> because defense spending is not the reason why we have a debt. it is not the driver of our national debt. our national debt, long-term, is
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driven by mandatory spending programs that need to be reformed. these reductions in defense spending with not just unsustainable, they're dangerous, reckless. every time this country has undertaken massive reductions in defense spending it had to come back later and undo them. we're on par to have the oldest and smallest air force ever. an army about to cut another 40,000 positions. there is a budget calls the gated budget, a bipartisan commission that looked at the defense needs and said this is what we need to spend our money on. the defense needs are the most important thing the federal government does. >> when you look at national defense, what we're fighting out there, what do you think would be the biggest threat on a foreign policy or a national defense data. >> we face threats like rogue state states.
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the second is nonstate actors like isis, terrorist groups who continue to spread their reach. they're now very involved in libya, that's why news about a russian jetliner should not be surprising to us because isis is very active in libya and they use it as an operational ground in the sinai into egypt. and the third, state actors like china and russia, who in different ways are trying to crowd america out and our influence. in the case of china and the asia pacific region, in the case of russia, europe and the middle east. all are very significant threats. we need to confront all three of them. a strong national defense is critical. >> how do you confront them? back in the 2012 election, i remember, you know, we had president obama laughing at mitt romney, when mitt romney said vladimir putin and russia is really the threat out there. here we have today russia, you know, invading ukraine, putting troops in syria. how would a president rubio deal with russia. >> in the case of russia, we need to reinvigorate nato in europe. we need to change the cost benefit analysis for vladimir putin. he calculates that the benefits
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of the ukrainian inkergcursion outweigh the costs of doing so. many countries and nato do not have territorial defense capabilities. they cannot inflict damage on russia high enough. they largely invested in becoming expeditionary forces that could join us, for example, in afghanistan. we have to reinvigorate nato. we have to help reinvigorate country countries by giving them defensive capabilities that change the cost benefit analysis for the -- things that vladimir putin is doing. he's a gangster but a rational cost pen fbenefit analysis guy. in the case of europe, the benefits of what he's been doing in europe far outweigh in his mind the cost that russia is bearing militarily. >> you're a senator from florida, you are compared to barack obama, been there, done
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that, junior senator, not ready for primetime yet. would you consider being a vp? >> i'm running for president. that's what i'm running for. i don't have any interest in being the vice president. >> how do you push back on those who say maybe at some point, but not right now? >> i don't know what -- i think the argument -- that's the argument the establishment and republican party makes. you need to wait in line. it is not your turn. i don't know what we're waiting for. this country can't have another four years like the last eight. the american dream is slipping away. i would remind people that barack obama didn't fail because he was a senator. he now has seven years of presidential experience and his policies are more disastrous today than when he started. he failed because his ideas don't work. big government, taking on an undermining free enterprise, expanding the reach of government to our economy, it has been a disaster. record numbers of people on public assistance, record numbers of people have left the labor force and economy that is growing at an anemic pace, wages barely grows and not in comparison to the new cost. global confidence in america's
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long-term outlook continues to decline. these are disasters. and direct result of a failed ideology on behalf of barack obama, not the fact he was a u.s. senator. >> i want to ask you about your tax plan, your plan has the highest tax rate for the highest earners at 35%. not much different than what we see right now. >> 39.5. >> 39.5 is what we have now. yours is 35%. you got this expanded child tax credit. so explain that to us. you want to give a credit to people because they have kids. >> i want to give them a credit because working families, the most important institution in our society. the first government -- the most important government, the most important economic sell and families are facing crushing costs, they're raising our future taxpayers. the cost of living for a family of six is higher than a family of one or two or three. our tax code should recognize that. we help businesses in the tax code, why wouldn't we help families? the second point, what you can't leave out, you have to look at the whole plan, the top rate is
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35. but, for example, a lot of people pay 35% are paying that on business income because they run -- under our plan, that income from that business is taxed by the flat rate of 25% for all business income, c corporation or s corporation. we allow businesses to immediately and fully deduct any expenses, any investment they make into their own business. >> how do you pay for this plan? what do you want to cut? >> i argued before, if you look at the -- you ask how we pay for it, the fundamental question is what do we do with the debt? the only way to deal with the debt, can't raise taxes, can't tax your way out of the debt and can't cut your way out of the debt. you have to do two things. you have so hold the line on future spending obligations. the tax plan is the growth aspect of this. we have to do entitlement reform. we have to reform medicare and social security. that is the long-term driver of our debt. we have to do both. >> senator rubio, see you on
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tuesday. >> thank you. >> thank you for joining us. senator rubio there. fox business network will be conducting the next gop presidential debate this tuesday, november 9th, 9:00 p.m. eastern time. we want to get another leading gop hopeful now, dr. ben carson. he's firing back this morning after new round of attacks on his life story. eric shawn with that angle. >> good morning, everyone. it was a ben carson we haven't really seen. not the soft spoken reflective pediatric neurosurgeon, but a blunt stunned politician fighting back. >> they understand that this is a witch-hunt. >> witch-hunt or legitimate questions raised about his autobiography. his claims he was a violent teenager that tried to stab a friend, and tried to hit his mother with a hammer. in his book, gifted hands, the ben carson story, he wrote, quote, i tried to kill my friend. he thought i must be crazy.
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only a crazy person would kill a friend. he was disgusted with himself, then he remembered to pray. >> i never hit my mother over the head. you didn't either. >> the story is redemption. that's what he's trying to get across. be that as it may, the bigger story is -- >> did you ever hit your mother? >> no. >> i don't think so. >> you didn't write that you hit her. something very strange is going on. >> and the supposed boast he was once offered a scholarship at west point, carson remains adamant. >> i never said i received a full scholarship. i never -- wait a minute. don't lie. i never said that i received a full scholarship. nowhere did i say that. >> there have been reports saying -- >> politico, as you know, told a bold faced lie, they have been called out on it by the washington post and the new york times and i'm sure there will be several others who will call them out on that because they're actually some people with integrity in your business. >> the carson campaign so far
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has not produced any of carson's friends and that pal who carson says he tried to stab has also not yet emerged. politico, by the way, adding a clarification, stands by its story. carson said he may make some of his friends public for his the media, for his words, to eat up. >> thank you very much. eric shawn with the latest. we'll watch that development. how would carly fiorina create jobs in the economy and respond to the critics who say she needs experience in politics before becoming president? carly fiorina will join us next. follow me on twitte twitter @mariabartiromo, let us know what you with like to hear from art as he helps me navigate the economic agendas of the candidates. we're looking ahead this morning to the debate on tuesday on "sunday morning futures." stay with us. (trader vo) i search.
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well, the fourth gop debate two days away on the fox business network. you heard from marco rubio. joining me now is former hewlett-packard ceo carly fiorina, she filed late last week for the first in the nation primary in new hampshire. carly, good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, maria. thank you for having me. >> i want to start on some of the news of the day. got the president rejecting xl pipeline and the jobs numbers out on friday, which were better than a lot of people expected. all of the talk that the economy is moving in slow motion, the numbers friday, 271,000 new jobs created in the month of october. a lot better than expectations. how do you read it? >> well, the economy is moving in slow motion. and, yes, these numbers were above expectations, but the previous two months were far below expectations. even though the employment rate continues -- the unemployment rate continues to fall, the truth is we have record numbers
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of people who are not working. we have record numbers of people who have just quit looking for work. we have wages that have been stagnant for 40 years. this economy is in slow motion, we're not creating enough jobs and we have too many people out of work. >> you talked a lot about regulation and how it is really holding back businesses from creating jobs. that's one of the levers to pull, i guess, for job creation. what is the secret sauce to getting more jobs in this economy today? >> well, i think we have to begin by recognizing where jobs come from. it is mostly, not all, but small and family owned and community-based businesses create two-thirds of the new jobs. we're destroying more of them than we're creating now. for first time in u.s. history. that's why i stress simplifying the tax code, from 73,000 pages to 3 to help small businesses. it is why we have to roll back the crushing weight of all of these regulations that have been spewing out of washington for 50 years.
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energy another huge job creator. when the president vetoes the keystone xl pipeline, he would do that, we knew he would do that. it is not only worse for the environment, actually than what we're doing today, but, of course, because we are suppressing energy production in this country, we are suppressing the creation of millions of jobs and the lowering of electricity costs. all of these wounds are self-inflicted. that's the bottom line. >> you know, you have had some great ideas, but a lot of your colleagues on the stage, in this race, have also had similar ideas, they call the tax code convoluted, say the regulatory environment is certainly oner s onerous. you look at your poll numbers, carly, and we see that you fall into 3% tied for sixth in sixth place. what do you do now to stand out to get your ideas out there and to outmaneuver your colleagues on the stage? >> well, first, let's remember that on may 4th, when i launched my candidacy, i was 16 out of 16.
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the polling companies didn't even ask voters about my name. because less than 4% of them had ever heard of me. now i'm in sixth place on the main stage, i like that trajectory, it is a different trajectory, a faster trajectory than any other candidate out there, particularly given the fact that i remain the least well known candidate. what differentiates me from others? i have a track record of doing these things. you know, the truth is politicians have been talking about reforming the tax code for 40 years. they have been talking about rolling back the regulatory overreach for 40 years. they have within talking about reducing the size of government, limiting its scope and power. it is all talk. it isn't results. i started as a secretary. the only way you go from a secretary to where i am come in my life is you produce results. and you solve problems. and you lead. and that's what we need now. less talk, more results. >> we know that the media has been trying to poke into your story by talking about a record at hewlett-packard. bottom line, you got to be
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chairman and ceo and had to oversee tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of employees. which is a huge feat in and of itself. let me read to you what the current ceo meg whitman said. i know you know this of hewlett-packard. it is very difficult for your first role in politics to be the president of the united states. so you've got your former colleague at hewlett-packard pooh-poohing this campaign. >> that's not quite fair. there are many former colleagues at hp who are right in my corner in this campaign. it is also true that meg whitman has a leadership role with chris christie. it is in her interest to say that because clearly she is supporting another candidate. ours was intended to be a citizen government. we were never intended to have a professional political class. i was brought into hp to save a company during a very difficult time. i saved jobs. i created jobs. i know why jobs are destroyed. and the truth is the vast majority of politicians don't know that. they never created the job, never saved a job and they don't know why they come and go.
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and it actually matters now to understand how the economy works in a global setting. >> what do you do in terms of allocating the $600 billion budget in terms of defense spending. how you to allocate that money? the president is saying, look, we need to rethink this and revisit this defense allocation because it is too much. >> exactly. isn't it interesting, maria, the federal government has spent more money each and every year for 40 years. that's been true under republicans and democrats alike. and yet we never have enough money to do the important things. the defense of the nation is a federal government responsibility. the answer to this is if we spend less, and yet invest in the areas that need investing, we have to prioritize how we spend. today we cannot do that because all the money is already spoken for. it is why we have to go to some version of zero-based budgeting. a bill to do that sits on the house floor as we speak. zero-based budgeting says we have to justify every single dollar in every single agency every single year.
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instead of only talking about the rate of increase over last year and giving bureaucracies permanent hold over the money that is sitting in their budgets. so let's go to zero based budgeting and pass that bill and then prioritize. >> you're on the campaign trail, got another two days until this next fox debate and i will see you in milwaukee for that debate. how does one prepare for the debates? >> well, first of all, i'm really looking forward to seeing you. i know you'll do a superb job of moderating. you're a fantastic reporter and always have been and you ask substantive issues based questions. so i'm looking forward to being with you and neal. i prepare by making sure that i am current on the issues of the day. by making sure that i understand all the facts around the various circumstances. i'm pretty clear about my approach, what i believe, what i think. but it is important to be up to date. we just had, for example, the details of the transpacific partnership released. i'll want to be sure i'm up to date on that. and then once you feel prepared, once i feel prepared, you have
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to go into that setting and be present in the moment and understand what you're being asked and answer it to the best of your ability and go with the flow of the dynamics on that stage. it is issues-based, but let's face it, there is some degree of entertainment in all of this as well. you have to be there and not be too much in your head in a briefing book somewhere. >> that's a good point. carly, good to see you. thanks so much. see you in tuesday in milwaukee. >> see you soon. >> carly fiorina there. voters say they want tax reform at the top of their agenda. which candidate has the best plan for the american people on economy? we'll look through all the plans as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures."
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jobs shaping up to be one of the biggest issues of the presidential campaign. which republican candidate has the best plan for the american people given the current state of the economy? want to bring in art laugher, leading economist, the former member of president reagan's advisory board. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, maria. weren't those two interviews just amazing? you got marco rubio and carly fiorina, they are unbelievably high quality. this candidate group is incredible. >> it is. real distinguishable difference when you look at each candidate and their economic plan. i want to begin this interview with this question from one of our viewers. he's on twitter this morning, always a soldier is his handle on twitter. he says, what constitutes a good tax policy? that's my first question for you, art. >> the best tax policy, the lowest possible tax rate on the broadest possible tax base because you wantcentiveincentiv.
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you want the least places to where people can place their income and not have to pay taxes. that's the key to economic growth and prosperity through the tax code. >> because the point is, we want to create economic growth and leading to jobs. let me ask you, we heard from carly fiorina this morning and marco rubio. want to ask about their plans or lack of plans on the economy and taxes in a moment. let's talk ted cruz for a home. i know that he reached out to you you advise him, he's calling for 10% income tax for individuals and 16% business tax. what else is important about his tax plan that we need to understand? >> i think those are the two most important features of his tax plan. the rest is what deductions or credits you have. those are really minor plays. the broad-based play is he has two low rate broad-based flat taxes which are excellent and very pro growth and very pro prosperity. you know, all taxes are bad,
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maria. all of them are bad. some are worse than others. what you want to make sure is you tax people in the least damaging fashion. we tax people who speed to get them to stop speeding. we tax cigarettes to get people to stop smoking. why do we tax people's incomes, employment and profit? not to get them to stop earning income or paying people or hiring so simply because we want to get the money. cruz is good in this regard. >> can he cut taxes without blowing up the deficit and debt? you look at all the plans across the board, we're talking about a cost between $2 trillion and $12 trillion. depending whose tax plan you look at it. can we afford to lower taxes this much. >> i don't think he's lowering taxes that much to be honest with you. the credit and some of the deductions maybe hit the revenue side, but 16% and 10% are reasonable numbers to tax a broad-base. let's say something on the order of $13 trillion. if you look at that size, which
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is total income or total net business sales, those two bases with 16% and 10%, you should be able to live on that revenue . >> does carly have a tax plan? she says, look, it doesn't matter if you write it down. anybody can write it down, it is about your policies. i don't know, is that going to fly and what about trump? compare carly fiorina and trump. >> she understands taxes more than anyone. she's really very, very good on taxation. she knows you got to lower the rates and broaden the base. donald trump is the same way. his corporate tax, his personal income tax, they're all really very, very good. and what donald trump told me personally is if you got a better idea, tell me and i'll change my plan. that's exactly the way a politician should be. they shouldn't have to come up with every great idea. they should be able to modify the plans when new ideas come along. i think all the candidates are willing to do that. rand paul changed his plan dramatically in a very pro
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growth fashion. i've got to take my hat off to rand paul for doing that. and ted cruz. >> yeah. he's got a 14.5% flat tax. does ben carson have a plan? he's been vague about this. >> he's following the old reagan motto, don't do that until you get into office because you have to deal with the senate finance and the house ways and means and senators and press secretaries and treasury and all that. the less specific your plan, better off you are because you paid the principles. in this regard, ben carson has done a fantastic job. 10% sort of flat tax, the fairest tax, he's completely correct on that. he says it might have to be higher, as high as 15%. but what he's saying on this, no loophole, no deductions, no exemptions, that's the exact right way to go to create this economic growth we need. >> yeah. real quick on hillary clinton, she wants to double capital gains taxes. >> she ain't no bill clinton, let me tell you that, as we he say here in nashville, tennessee. bill clinton was a great
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president. i voted for him twice. i thought he was a great president. i thought he cut taxes dramatically. created growth. hillary is not bill clinton. unfortunately it is just not her day. she's a brilliant wonderful person, and she's very experienced, but this is not her time. >> thanks so much. great analysis as always. see you soon, sir. >> thank you, maria. good luck on tuesday. >> see you on tuesday for sure. >> yes, you will. >> ben carson finds himself on the defensive after revelations he made exaggerated stories of his youth, now blaming media bias. will this help or hurt the campaign? we'll talk about that with our panel as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." the panel is next. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like ordering wine equals pretending to know wine. pinot noir, which means peanut of the night.
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at ally bank no branches equalsit's a fact.. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. welcome back. presidential candidate ben carson fires back at the media for what he calls a witch-hunt over details about his past. his campaign is trying to cash in on the media barrage, sending an e-mail blast to donors yesterday. under the subject line, vicious lies, the e-mail reads in part, quote, i will be honest, i need your help now. i always knew this campaign would be tough. but the media is now going off the rails. and we need the resources to fight back 24/7. bring in our panel on that note. ed rollins, former principle white house adviser to president reagan, he's a fox news political analyst.
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judith miller at the manhattan institute for policy research. she's a pulitzer prize winning author and journalist and fox news contributor. peter sigmund, former communications director for former new jersey governor jon corzine. good to have you with us. let's talk about this noise in the media today. ben carson. i don't know what is important, what to believe, what not to believe. >> i think ben carson is now playing the role of a front-runner. people scrutinize him carefully. he's a brilliant man, brain surgeon. has to be careful with his words. he doesn't speak in sound bites. he doesn't get full thoughts out. and i think to a certain extent this is a terrible week, people will go back and check all that and what is going to happen now is every single thing he said is going to get scrutinized. >> even if what he said was true, and there is really nothing wrong here, judy, the
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whole, like, burst of headlines makes it a murky situation and a voter has to question, you know. >> it is more than that. this is why professional politicians know how to handle these questions. they -- ben carson has written nine books. he's given countless inspirational speeches and everything he said and wrote and every one of them is now open to scrutiny. you know what, that's our job. and ben carson lashing out at us for doing our job doesn't help the wall street journal yesterday, not exactly a liberal rag, came up with three separate examples of stories he told that couldn't be confirmed or directly conflicted by people who said -- >> this is on top of the admission from him that, yes, i took a hammer to my mother, steve, and yes, i did almost stab someone. >> the extraordinary thing is none of it seems to matter. i'm glad i'm a democratic strategist and don't have to analyze the republican primary
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electorate, because it seems impossible. he's done things over and over again that would be a disqualifier for any candidate in the past. 6 million americans shouldn't be able to run for president because of their religion and in direct contradiction of the constitution. he said victims of a shooting massacre should have been tougher to have stopped it. now, you know, to not put a fine point on it, he lied. >> just to push back, hillary also lied, right? she lied about benghazi. we know that because of the e-mail situation. >> she's been willing to take tough questions. she sat there for eight hours and answered questions over and over and over again. he lashes out and whines about the press. they all do. they whine about getting tough questions. >> he's done very well because he's very calm, very smart, and very -- a lovely man. he's now in an anger mode and it does the not sell well.
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my sense is coalition, which is the christian right, will not bend early in iowa, won't be a viable -- >> the anger is coming out. you can see it. >> not in an operating room. how did michael jordan do playing baseball? he may be a great surgeon, but you switch fields, and this middle of the tough race, or tough operation, it is not good. >> what is phenomenal is the things keep happening. they happen with trump and carson. to rip off the late great yogi berra, starting to get late early out there. only a couple of months until the first republican primary. these guys are still dominating the field. >> and marco rubio, and the west point story. and his use of credit cards and whether or not he used credit cards for the campaign. >> that's an old story that basically was bought out on the course of the campaign and the voters of florida, ran against the former governor, heard the story, basically has covered it up, paid all expenses, what have you. what he just -- he's a very articulate guy and very believable guy. at the end of the day, that
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won't basically -- >> let's look at what is coming up on media buzz and check in with howie kurtz. >> good morning, maria. we'll look at politico and cnn, this reporting on ben carson and if the media went too far. we have an investigative piece about what happens after john lennon was shot. this is 35 years ago, new eyewitnesses speaking out about what happened at the hospital, the doctor actually tried to save his life, speaking to a national audience for the first time and yoko ono speaking out about what she says is some erroneous reporting about her. >> we'll see you in 20 minutes. thanks so much. >> donald trump, late night stir last night as host of i saturday night live." the appearance sparking outrage among hispanic groups who called the candidate a racist. how will this affect trump's campaign moving forward? we'll talk about it next with our panel.
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was going to happen. who is that? >> trump's a racist! >> it is larry david. what are you doing, larry? >> i heard if i yelled that, they would give me $5,000. >> as a businessman, i can fully respect that. >> donald trump mock heckled by larry david last night, host of "saturday night live." for the protesters outside, no laughing matter. dozens of people marched from trump tower to the studio. they argue the appearance validates what they call trump's racist views against immigrants. back with our panel, ed rollins, judy miller, steven sigmund. >> i think his appearance doesn't make much of a difference. it is his brand. he gets around mainstream traditional media and gets
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attention for it. the fact that people are protesting outside, it does reinforce that he and the republican brand has a very, very big problem with hispanic voters and they're not likely to come back to him. i don't think it changes the dynamics. >> trump keeps saying he's number one with latinos. >> i don't know what that means. 1% and the rest of the republican field has nothing. >> look, he showed he could mock himself, but we know that. and i think the hollywood reporter called it lamentable. i don't know how the audience liked it. i think having just come from asia, where people are really worried about things like the economy and jobs and where china is going saying look at us and i have one question, donald trump? >> the rest of the world -- >> i stayed up late and watched it and i wish i would have watched the alabama football game. it wasn't the best perform apps. i don't think he lost anything.
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it wasn't great. i've seen him be funny and charming and the rest of it. it would have been a better show if they would have done normal stuff and made fun of him, but i think -- i'm sure the ratings will be something they brag about for the rest of the week. >> maybe he's trying not to be so outrageous. is he changing his tone? >> i don't think he can change his tone. that's who he is. i think to a certain extent sooner or later he'll did that he does. >> what are your expectations for tuesday? >> i'm worried about jeb bush. his team has been saying he hasn't been preparing this time. as opposed to what he did last time. if he doesn't really show us something this time, i don't see given the poll numbers, given what is happening to defectors from his fund-raising, i don't see how he stays in the game. >> the first debate will be an all-star debate, huckabee and christie and with other people that have substantive, this debate, the two people, bush and
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john kasich have to get in the game. they don't get in the game, i think this thing will move on. >> very hard for them. i think this debate will be more of the same. you see jeb bush proudly saying he's not preparing for it. there is some -- there is something going on where the leading candidates, the less they prepare and less they know, the better they seem to do after the debate. i was -- i thought from the very first republican debate when donald trump very clearly didn't know any answers to the questions and just used his bluster to get past that, i thought that would be the end of the summer of trump. we're now into the fall. trump and carson. >> and he's still leading in the polls. how do you recommend people prepare for a debate? when you're -- you when you were there getting your people, jon corzine, et cetera, the dems ready, what do you tell them? >> what carly fiorina said, you have to prepare. you spend time going over questions, spend time going over your policy proposals, over what is happening in the news and in the world now and get to know it and be smart about it. that's just not what at least
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ben carson and donald trump have had to do. i imagine you'll call them out on it. >> who will shine in the debate when it comes to the economy and your money. some see china as a major challenge. which candidate has the best plan to tackle that? our panel will weigh in next as we take a look ahead on "sunday morning futures." we'll be right back. at mfs investment management, we believe active management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can seek to outperform. that's the power of active management. why is philips sonicare the most loved electric toothbrush brand by americans and their dentists? because it leaves your mouth with a level of clean like you've never felt before. get healthier gums in 2 weeks innovation and you. philips sonicare nobody's hurt,but there will you totstill be car. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it.
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a big week ahead to the gop contenders, the debate coming up on tuesday night. meanwhile, china seen as one of the big threats to the economy here, i spoke with the kruismt o and chairman of exxon mobil this week, and we talked about china's impact on his business. >> this year we're seeing about 3.5% demand for crude oil.
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next week we think that will decline further to about 3%, so seeing that chinese economy and part of it is the economy maturing a bit, beginning to slower its growth, so if you-looking at energy as a proxy for how the economy is going, it's pretty sluggish. and ed rollins, you know you have energy falling, indicative of what's happening on the industrial side of economy, and some say manufacturing is already in a recession. >> i think there's four people on this stage of being president, and i don't think carson anymore, but i think trump is odds on to win iowa. but cruz and rubio are two that are moving. rubio, just as he did on your show a while ago, has done extremely well in all these debates. if he has another great debate, i think he becomes one of the real serious candidates. >> so you think those three will shine? trump, rubio and ted cruz, what
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do you think, judy? >> i think all of the republicans have to explain their tax cuts and proposals, because according to the tax foundation this would add between 1.6 and $10 trillion in deficits over the next decade. i think to have to be questioned about that. how are you going to pay for this? >> they're talking about over the first decade adding to the deficit, for sure. but then they're talking about growth picking up from there, in terms of economic growth making it -- >> we always have these ten-year plans. one of the questions that needs to be fundamental, they've all talked about we're going to redo the entitlements, what are youing with to do about it. let's have a serious conversation about that. >> i think the person who will shine on the economy in that debate is barack obama, because as judy said, you'll have a bunch of candidates talking about economic plans that don't add up, not even close, and don't have any plans for actually building a base for a private economy in the future,
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education investment, transportation investment, for example. the obama administration is now at 68 straight months of predict sector growth, 8.5 million new jobs added more than double than the last two republican presidential administrations. they had a great month 9 last month before, so they'll all take shots at the obama economy, but it's the real that's growing most in the world. >> but also the reality is we should be farther along in this cycle in terms of a recovery. we are nine years away from the worst financial crisis in a general railings. >> he also got through the worst financial crisis, and now strong economic grow and leading the rest of the world. the way to get further along is not to exploit the deficit. not to cut pending on and not, by the way, to blow up an affordable health care act -- it has faults, but for all its
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faults, it's holding down health care spending. >> we had another election last week, to give you the statistics, on how the country thinking, lost another democrat governship, 69 house seats, 13 senate sneeze, 30 state legislative chambers and 12 governorships. that's what the country thinking. >> i have to respond. what happened is red states got redder and blue states got bluer. kentucky became a -- new jersey, the assembly went even further democrat, staten island went to a democratic d.a., and the supreme court in pennsylvania. >> in my 72 years there's only been two republican governorses in kentucky. in kentucky. we at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like playing the boss equals the boss wins.
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moderate the first, that's at 7:00 p.m. then i will be moderating alongside neil cavuto and jerry baker for the main debate. see you detective wheeler, upbusiness.c. good night. next lou dobbs keeps right here on fox business. :good evening everybody. talk of donald trump's decline is over stated. a brand new poll shows trump leading the republican race with the backing of 26 percent of the gop voters. voters also identifying trump as the best candidate on the economy, and the most likely to beat hillary clinton. tonight we exam the fox news poll, and it's coming up. also more reasons 2for democrats and republicans and


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