tv Risk and Reward With Deidre Bolton FOX Business November 9, 2015 5:00pm-6:01pm EST
details. >> absolutely. david: go through -- there are some people, who has you found out are actually going through their, dipping into their retirement fund, their emergency fund. this is very dangerous position. reporter: that's right. david: thank you, gerri. that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts right now. deirdre: the fox business republican press debate is tomorrow. we're gearing up today. welcome to "risk & reward", i'm deirdre bolton. the event kicks off in milwaukee, wisconsin. 7:00 p.m. tomorrow night is the time it starts. candidates arrive as we speak. peter barnes with me from the debate site. peter, are you tracking the candidates? are they there? reporter: we are, deirdre. we have two candidates here that we know of already. one is marco rubio, the florida senator. he was here for a rally today as well as fund-raising event. i think we have a little video
of that. i think also here already is florida former governor jeb bush, probably, one of his chief rivals right now, right? jeb bush is about to have an event with wisconsin governor scott walker and, that's going to be happening here momentarily. and both rubio and bush are courting walker because they would like to walk into the milwaukee theater tomorrow night with an endorsement from scott walker, himself a former presidential candidate in this field as you know. but he dropped out a month or so ago. and we just came from inside of the theater where our colleague sandra smith and trish regan were you know way with their rehearsals for the first debate tomorrow. and joined by jerry seib, washington bureau chief for "the wall street journal." our team has been here on the ground since last week. we have over 200 people here
from fox business and fox news. they got in last week, our tech folks. they started setting up the stage on sunday. they're getting all the details ready with the stage and all behind the scenes preparations. and, our team of course, rehearsing today, one of our teams. then neil cavuto and maria, bartiromo will be rehearsing tonight with gerard baker, editor-in-chief of "the wall reet journal." deirdre: peter, any word from the rnc? reporter: yes. talked to the rnc. they're not sure when all the other candidates will be here. obviously they will all be here by tomorrow. i did ask about the tickets. there are 3,000 people who can fit into the milwaukee theater. the tickets are divided up among four different groups, media
sponsors, fox business and "the wall street journal" then a portion go to the rnc. a portion go to the state of wisconsin republican committee for guests and then a chunk go to candidates themselves. the door ep, the doors open for admission tomorrow afternoon. deirdre. deirdre: peter, we'll talk a lot in the next 24 hours. thank you so much. meantime, peter barnes with me from wisconsin. someone who knows what candidates are feeling right this second was himself one in 2012. he is legendary career as a businessman and a diplomat. also served as a governor of utah, jon huntsman, jr., is with me now. governor, so pleased to have you with us. >> deirdre, a great honor. thanks so much. deirdre: as someone who has been through the process what would your advice be to the candidates? >> well, everybody is biting their fingernails and fretting over questions that will be asked but at the end of the day tough be yourself. you have to stand on issues that you have championed during your career.
you have to articulate them coincingly and believely to the american public. anytime you try to fudge or be somebody you're not, guess what, american people can see that pretty clearly. see right through you. deirdre: when you ran in 2012, president obama's campaign manager, you seemed most threatening to him. i want to know how the race is different this time around versus last time? >> well, last time, we had a frontrunner pretty consistently with the beginning with governor romney. then you had people pop up as competitors in some of the early primary states but they didn't last very long. this time you have got first of all, a field two or three times the size we had in 2012. you have a different landscape in terms of policy priorities. and, you really don't have a traditional conventional frontrunner. you have two outsiders who have consistently stayed at the 20, 25% range. and that hasn't change ad whole lot.
so that dynamic is completely different than anything we've seen in the past. deirdre: governor, let me ask you, were you as surprised as rest of the public seems to be, as you just alluded to, the two outlyers are the ones, of course, donald trump and dr. carson who are the ones leading right now? >> well anyone who told you otherwise, any analyst or any insider who six months ago would have said they're not surprised by it would be lying to you. this would have been a difficult thing for anybody to forecast. then you say, you know, republican base, and a lot of independent, unaffiliated voters included in that group, they really have had enough. the idea you're bringing in somebody with a different approach, and i think the one word that really summarizes what the people want more than anything else is strength. they want somebody who will stand up to those who are trying to tear down the united states, to our enemies and evildoers abroad. want somebody with congress. donald trump the kind of person who exudes strength more than
anything else is ought thennic. he has sense of ought authenticity what people are looking for. ben carson the same. authentic guy. he is who he is. i think republican base for that reason given them high standing thus far in the campaign. deirdre: governor, shortly after you dropped out last time, there are people hoping maybe you could be a late addition, you said, you know what? development after strong third party, would be healthy for the u.s. do you still -- you made that comment in 2012. do you still think that is true? >> i think we're a two party country. what i was referring to more thanking else was to get republican party, my party of record my entire career, more competitive. which means you have to have issues that you take after the american people. we're able to bring back the lost demographics. right now, that narrative hasn't been established. for us to win the election it is all about math, deirdre, at end of the day.
you have to get 270 electoral college votes. democrats have structural advantage, they get 230 of the 270 pretty easily because of the states in blue, democratic column. we have to have message. we have to have a messenger that articulates something to the lost demographics, people who used to be republicans and traditionally vote with republicans to win them back. that is reinfusing party with sense of competitiveness and real ideas and ability to communicate those ideas. i hope that we begin to establish somebody with some message along the way, where we're able to reconvince those who evident are the party. deirdre: governor, at this junction, do you see candidate that embodies that? that doesn't mean you can not support somebody later but somebody running more efficient and emotional and tactical campaign right now? >> it is still early days. i would have to say i'm a governor-centric person.
we have some governors in the race who have very established track records. they're in the single digits right now. you know what? i found that, in new hampshire, that critically important state for several candidates this go round, people don't really decide until a couple weeks out. so we went from zero to third place in new hampshire, just by working it very, very hard. shaking hands probably 10 times with every citizen of the state. so you can't really draw conclusions today about who might make it to the finish line in some of these early states because of the voters will begin to coalesce, really quite late in the game. i think say something today is premature. deirdre: governor kasich is only one who had statistics for a lot of economic and job creation issues that a lot of people want to know about. >> well that's clearly one of the top issues. in fact i think jobs and job creation agenda is clearly top of mind for most voters.
and he has a record of doing that. the other governors have pretty impressive records on same. let's watch this carefully play out. the debate tomorrow night will be very important. i expect it will not be a gotcha game. you have two folks from your good network who will lead the effort. and if we can get candidates to elucidate a little bit more on some of their policy specifics around job growth, around tax reform, around how you revitalize this democracy of ours, last election, 2014, had lowest voter turnout in 75 years. we have structural issues here in terms of the health of our democracy that must be addressed. so the specifics are going to be good. they will help people better understand candidates as we go forward. deirdre: i agree one hundred%. to your point, democracy needs participation. >> absolutely. deirdre: neil cavuto says he is fine with disappearing. he wants candidate views to get out there. thanks so much for the time.
>> deirdre, a pleasure. deirdre: governor huntsman joining me there. well the dow worth noting down more than 150 points. a huge part of tomorrow night's debate, focus on economy and jobs. townhall.com editor katie pavlich with me now. democratic chuck rocha on america's greatest concern. katie, the most important economic issue you think candidates can address tomorrow night what is it? >> the economy if they want to win over voters. always is because it's a very personal issue. they want to know how the candidates will impact their lives. whether doing more for them, like the case with republican primaries. promoting jobs and government out of the way of regulatory policy. economy is focus tomorrow and americans are looking forward to hear real questions how they
impact their bottom line at their kitchen table once they got to washington. deirdre: picking up about katie's point about the economy and job creation, how much do you think we'll see any one candidates link that to immigration? >> i think that is donald trump's sweet spot, that is how he kicked off his campaign. i think he will always pivot in that direction, they are a portion hungry for the message. people talk about the economy as a whole and immigration as a factor. i go back to the original statement this is afternoon, every day when a man and woman go to work, feed their children, get them ready for their day at school, how the economic issues affect everyday lives of everyday americans. there is a lot of frustration who is with them in real anti-establishment movement. deirdre: agree 100%. katie, thank you. chuck thank you. glad to have you here. when we come back, dr. ben carson is blasting
quote, unquote, political media for a political hit job during a sunday media blitz. former massachusetts senator scott brown will join me whether or knot he thinks dr. carson is being treated fairly. >> this is political hit job. even some of you guys in the made yaw called him out on that. that is pretty bad. ♪ [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts, ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time, 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights.
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to follow. moderators maria bartiromo, neil cavuto. with me now, so first and foremost, neil, how are the debates tomorrow going to differ from the ones in the past? i read a comment says you want to disappear and let the candidates shine? >> right. and i'm a pretty big guy. if i were to disappear, that would be like a magic moment. but my point is, maria and i were talking about this. this idea we want the information and the questions to be clear, focused and to the point but then let candidates run with it by answering it. our goal not to sort of insert our views or, to frame it in a way that it gets obnoxious. doesn't mean questions won't be tough but they will be fair and balanced to the point. let candidates make to those and not our tone. deirdre: maria, to neil's point. i know you are ready. you have pointed questions on jobs and economy.
>> she is actually ready. deirdre: she is ready. 50/50. >> that is debatable. deirdre: with what do you think is the most important economic issue? what do voters want to hear about most? >> i think a majority of voters want to hear about job creation, where are the jobs. they also want to hear about tax reform. a majority of republican primary voters feel tax reform should be at top of the agenda for congress and administration. the fun part of it is, all of these candidates have different plans. so what the onus is on us to, talk to the candidates and try to solicit the right information to educate and empower the viewers, so they have a clear understanding of the differences. we know our role. we're working for voter. we have to solicit information from these candidates to help voter, viewer, have a better understanding of these plans and be able to distinguish what's different about them. deirdre: i know we have a plan to manage the time that is going to be different, but what about the wildcards, neil?
how are you guys preparing for those? >> you're right, deirdre. you can't factor that in. we gave opportunity for candidates who felt they were robbed of a chance to explain their position and give them to that. give them 90 second response time. if they get mentioned, by another candidate, they get 60 second response time. instead of making it about us, flesh off our answers. that doesn't mean if veering off script and not answering question we'll get them back to the point but idea is get intelligent debate going and making sure they're answering the questions at hand. this is the type of debate they say they want. we know from experience this is the debate voters want. we feel given appreciation of the time involved and constraints involved we can do that. >> we know they have been on the campaign trail all of this time. they have been using same talking points over and over again. >> that's right. >> our job is get them off the talking points and actually solicit answers voters and
viewers want to hear. deirdre: i'm sure you're ready. the structure is good and clear for participants as well. last one, 90 minutes in, candidates seemed unsure what kind of time they had, where to go. we're looking forward to it. meantime, maria bartiromo an neil cavuto, of course 9:00 p.m. tomorrow night. do not miss it. the first debate starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern time hosted by sandra smith and trish regan. pointed questions to the candidates for you, on the economy, your money and your life. starting tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. dr. ben carson will be there. he took to the airwaves this weekened to speak out against the liberal media. >> you look at for instance, the political hit job this week. i mean even some of you guys in the media called them out on that. that is pretty bad. deirdre: former massachusetts senator scott brown with me now. so, senator, is the media going after carson in a way that it is not with other candidates?
>> well, first of all, dr. carson has a book and they will read the book because he is in first or second place depending what poll you look at. he is a thoughtful, lovely, hard-working intelligent man. probably the most intelligent person on the stage. that being said it is also his first major campaign. can you going from being neurosurgeon to running for president of the united states? just culture shock, media scrutiny is overwhelming. it is appropriate for him to kind of push back. it is also appropriate for people to question his background. he and everybody else on the stage. don't forget they're running for the greatest position in the land which is president of the united states of america. deirdre: senator, it is not just the media taking shots at dr. carson. new jersey governor christie, one as well. >> i got to tell you, couple days being asked about something you put in your books, got to tell you i don't have a whole lot of sympathy. he should answer the questions, forthrightly and directly.
if he does, the american people will accept it. if he doesn't, then he is has got a problem. deirdre: senator, is christie just jealous? >> no of course not. he is absolutely right. first of all politics unfortunately or fortunately depending on what side of the aisle you're on is a blood sport. he has affirmative responsibility to answer questions. christie after he has gone through, spent hours and hours and days and months and months talking about things he has done in his administration and it is appropriate for every candidate to be focused on and scrutinized that said it should not go on forever, not something a whole political reality. i think we'll obviously move on. the best way to do that is have a great debate tomorrow night. deirdre: senator brown, thank you very much. >> thank you. deirdre: republican debate, lou dobbs will tee up the seven p.m. debate and 9:00 p.m. debate.
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deirdre: we are on the countdown to the showdown. we have two great presidential debates where you can get to know the candidates, their positions on key economic issues, starting right here tomorrow evening at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. lou dobbs is hosting lou dobbs tonight from there this evening and then a special two-hour show tomorrow night. lieu, what are you feeling there? what is the prebuzz in milwaukee right now? >> well, it's kind of fun, diedre, walking through this terrific old building and meet with some of the folks coming through with the various candidates and their parties and they're very nervous about
getting everything just perfectly correct. and all of us are getting revved up for what's going to be a very interesting illuminating, compelling several hours of television from here, milwaukee, wisconsin tomorrow night as the candidates go into the arena for the rough and tumble of informing the american people. i think it's going to be absolutely amazing. deirdre: i think so too. i have to ask you, it's a tough question, you're a veteran, who has the most to lose? >> you know, i can't give you a good answer to that because every one of these candidates wouldn't be here if they didn't have a chance to win. and they're putting it on the line. right now the frontrunners are on hooks because whether you're dr. ben carson facing controversy over a book you wrote 15 years ago or you're donald trump whose file has been critiqued and demonstrated by some folks for
something he said just a couple of months ago. the fact is that each one of them wants to walk out of here having made a clear point and clear connection with the american people. because there's a lot at stake here for each and every one of them. charles: lou, i know there are numerous issues important to the candidates, numerous issues important to voters. if you had to pick your top three, i want the most information on and top three -- top three subjects for the economy, for jobs creation, whatever it is, what pops into your mind? >> which among these candidates, who among them will be the candidate that the most people decide has the greatest chance to restore prosperity and assure this country's destiny? and to make that connection and articulate a solicitation, whether it be in 90 seconds or the course of the evening in this debate or the full legion of debates that they will have contested in.
that one person has to emerge to answer those two questions. assure the american dream and to assure our destiny. deirdre: so, lou, you have a special this evening and tomorrow evening. who are some of your guests. what are you looking forward to tonight? >> well, diedre, i was hoping you would ask me that question, over the hour we're going to have williams to focus on the controversies of the day, including the carson controversy and trump's longing as well as doug, a terrific establishment economist who's going to give us his views on the issues that should be absolutely analyzed over the course of that debate. and on the -- if you will the media and how -- how independent and objective it remains as they cover these candidates. and of course we thought it would be interesting to have
a n establishment billionaire give us his perspectives in one of the most respected folks in business. willber ross, a important member of the republican establishment, we're going to have a great evening of great guests and thinkers here to talk about the things candidates -- they hope will address. deirdre: lou dobbs, we are looking forward to it. thank you so much. in the meantime lou doing his show from milwaukee tonight, a two-hour special, tomorrow as well. our first debate is a quick reminder, starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. a second one at 9:00 p.m. if your friends don't know how to find us, go to foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. u.s. defense officials are proposing a new plan to temporarily send more troops to europe. former navy seal is with me next
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counter russia and its growing presence. former nebraska governor bob kerry with me now. good to see you. >> great to see you. deirdre: as a retired navy seal, what's the most important measure a candidate can do to support the military? >> well, probably just to express a pretty clear understanding of what it means to be in the military. what it means to be commander-in-chief as a consequence. every time you get in these ferocious debates we've got to go here, got to go there, none of the candidates are going to be doing it. the commander-in-chief is not going to deploy to europe, iraq, afghanistan, or erever. deirdre: well, he's going to depend on experts. >> when a man or woman comes into the military, they enter a completely different world. imputative the uniform, the commander of chief can tell you to do whatever the commander-in-chief wants you to do. you do give up your freedom. and as long as the presidential candidates understand that, that's the most important thing for me.
deirdre: so, governor, what do you make -- i just read the u.s. defense officials saying perhaps the u.s. will send more troops to europe and the idea is to keep russia's growing power in check. do you see -- when i say russia's growing power, first of all, do you agree with that premise? >> well, certainly have demonstrated tremendous capacity, not necessarily the forces but moving the way they did in the ukraine. it was reprehensible. nato in many ways has been hollowed out, and i think it's a smart thing to do and the right thing to do to put up the troop reinventing nato but equally important to push our nato allies to do the same. deirdre: do you think the as you say alone? >> always a larger responsibility, we're america, we have to the things that the rest of the world doesn't have to do. it's inadvertent ways and fortunate in others. it's just who we are and what we have to do.
deirdre: speaking of national security, there's more evidence that shows terrorist presents russia passenger plane that crashed last weekend. >> the fact that isis has declared war on russia, this was a russian plane headed for russia. in addition to the u.s. and uk intelligence, that we received, i think all indicators are pointing to the fact that this was isis putting a bomb on a airplane. >> it's a wake-up call to us. i have said before, and i really believe it, we will fight them now, or we will fight them later. it's only a question of time. deirdre: only a question of time. in your view strategically, how can we beat isis? >> well, look, we've been deploying special operations forces, obama has been carrying the fight to them and certainly cut off their momentum that they established earlier. we created a power vacuum when we left iraq in a hurry. it seems to me we were going
to engage syria when they were using chemical weapons against their own people, we didn't, and i think we created a power vacuum. i think it's crucial that we get all the parties around the table, the iranians, the russians, and everybody involved -- deirdre: okay. but how is that? because they don't want the same thing. >> no. i'm not talking about isis. i'm talking about an agreement for syria. 250,000 dead syrians. 4million refugees. get a peace agreement. force the iranians, force the russians, force them into the open and say we've got to get an agreement that leads to a different regime and puts the entire group of nations against isis. deirdre: what about the fact that iran and russia want assad to stay? u.s., europe, and uk want him out. >> you've got difference of opinion between russia and iran on assad. all cases, it doesn't do good to stand off and express individual national view on assad. we need to negotiate peace agreement.
the only way to resolve this, not only in syria but the entire world community against isis because iran is against isis, they're a threat not just to us but in particular everybody in the region. deirdre: so it sounds like you're somewhat hopeful. >> look, i'm never hopeful when it comes to making peace. it's a lot harder to make peace than it is war. and i can duet back to your earlier question about commander-in-chief or potentially commander-in-chief, you've got to understand that. all of these statements result in war, the most difficult thing is being demonstrated, any time somebody is an advocate of making peace, somebody's going to attack them and sometimes violent. deirdre: speaking of attack, there's still fallout from the deadly attack in benghazi, in fact, we learned that hillary clinton signed a nonclosure information to prevent classified information and by signing the papers she swore to recognize criminal penalties for unauthorized disclosures. the nda did that strike you as
a smoking gun for the former secretary of state? >> well, i wouldn't say smoking gun but certainly relevant to the fbi doing this investigation. same that general petraeus signed. they were upset that a felony charge wasn't brought. that a misdemeanor was caught and all of us have to be careful to -- we've got to let the fbi do its work. they have the hard drive, they're looking at this, i trust they have the capacity to answer the question. should criminal charges be brought? yes or no? i don't have access to the hard drive. it is absolutely relevant and important she sign that nda. it's the same thing that general petraeus had done. deirdre: all right. and it is in good hands. i remember you. with the fbi bob kerry, thank you for the time. >> my pleasure. deirdre: governor joining me there. another co-op has failed. hundreds of cancer patients are now out of time in new york. actor and author susan summers on health care issues.
in new york city are now affected. and she says we need serious health care reform, the candidates to need address the topic tomorrow night. susan, thank you so much for your time and sharing an insight as a cancer survivor. when you hear things like this, 250 people, essentially losing access to great care, what does that make you feel about the health care system in the u.s.? >> well, the way i feel about the health care system in the u.s. in general is they act as though there's only one way to go and that's -- and what i write about is another option, alternative medicine and i find as i listen to the debates and the candidates talking, they act as if there's no other way to go. i think with my own cancer, it was 15 years ago, such a nonissue because i decided to not go, i changed the way i eat, i eliminated chemicals in
my life and what i put in my body and what i put on my body and what i clean my house with. so it -- it's like a lot of the other topics in my books that i talk about where, you know, i've written so many books about hormones that they say the cancer connection with hormones -- well, you're only talking about synthetic hormones. if it costs now to die from cancer approximately a quarter of million dollars, and we're experiencing the greatest environmental assault in the history of humanity and they're putting things together such as gmo and engineered foods with the cancer connection calling them, you know, carso then maybe we should cleanup the environment and think of a different way of taking care of people because obamacare represents a third of our economy, probably more at this point, and it's not working.
and if you can't afford your deductible, what are you supposed to do? deirdre: what is the thing you feel like from a political standpoint you would hope to hear tomorrow? would address to your point how sick some people feel and it's not always cancer, but things that are considered less life-threatening but affect their lives nonetheless. i'm saying, you know, the brain fog, depression, other things that comes from these poisons. >> well, when you're talking about brain fog, you're talking about the new -- i call them the initials. add. ad/hd, dyslexia, autism, et cetera, et cetera. at present, according to the environmental working group, close to 50% of our high school students are on prescribed amphetamines. that cost the country a lot of money and to me, it's very noncreative way to treat because there's evidence now
that prolonged amphetamine produced 10, 15 years down the road they're seeing solid tumors of the breast, lung prostate, et cetera. deirdre: right. >> so all of these kids, what's that going to be down the road? so i'm not for a sing issue candidate, but i'm looking at dr. carson, i would hope because he's wise and because he's expansive in his thinking that he would -- like they do in europe, and i'm not advocating the socialist medicine in europe too because that has its downfall. but the one thing i do admire in europe if you go to your doctor in europe and particularly in france which i know firsthand because i have family members, you can choose to have orthodox medicine meaning here's my disease, here's the pill for it, or you can choose homeopathic or all three. deirdre: choices with the patient. >> here we have no choice and i -- i look at insurance companies, and i think if they
wanted to talk to me, you know, go to info at susan summers.com that maybe there's a way because if we were proactive, maybe there's a way that -- deirdre: even save money. >> could actually cover. about alternative medicine. deirdre: feel better and save money. >> right. deirdre: we'll talk soon again because i want to hear more. susan summers in the meantime author of toxic. thank you for joining principle there. thank you, susan for the time. and facebook cofounder mark zuke zuckerberg firing back at trump's deportation plan, the director joining me now the internet of things.
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put forward to radically restrict high skilled immigration and this mass fortation idea is awful, absurd, rounding up 12 million people. that's going to cost our economy 1.7 trillion with a t, trillion with a t. on the other hand what we perform is common sense reform. fixing our legal immigration system at various skill levels. making sure that we have sensible border security and making sure we have a pathway to citizenship for the 11.5 million people who are here undocumented in this country. deirdre: todd, very quickly, what do you hear to hear from the candidates tomorrow? >> that they make common sense reform a priority right out of the gate. whether it's rapport democrat. deirdre: it is a big important issue for the jobs economy, the economy in journal, in the meantime todd joining me there. my next guest wishes congress was run more like uber. utah senator mike lee up next
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deirdre: congress needs uber-level innovation. republican senator mike lee with me now. so, senator, what do you mean by that? >> what i mean is we need to decentralize power with disruptive technology, disruptive innovation in the private sector. we need the same thing in washington so that we're not always centralizing power, first of all, to the federal government to the state and local government. and then within the federal government, we need to decentralize government as well. individual members need to bring forth their own ideas, encourage policy innovation among lawmakers, make this be an entrepreneurial exercise where members can exercise the. >> that is right.
charles: they've been sent here to exercise from the voters. that's how we get good policy. deirdre: you wrote and said that it is becoming status quo that's tearing us apart. what do you mean by that? >> what i mean by that is that there's this mind-set that we need to consolidate power, we need to centralize in everything washington and then in washington give more more power to a small handful of leaders within congress and then everybody else has to sort of follow or vote against whatever happens to come to the floor. i think the american people deserve better and they're demanding more. and just as they're getting more in the private sector through technologies like uber, they're starting to expect and demand and deserve that same kind of decentralization and the same kind of disruptive innovation in the government. deirdre: in about 15 seconds, what do you want to hear tomorrow night? >> i want to hear smart fighters. what the american people want in their president is a fight fighter.
they don't want a smart. come forward with their own ideas about how they're going to use conservative principles to advance the cause of expanding the middle class and helping the poor get out of poverty. deirdre: we'll leave it there. thank you so much. charles payne is here. charles: stocks stumbled out the gauge this morning and remain lower all day long. and is it just the start of the rally? and netanyahu as israel rises and iran gets billions to further spread their rain of terror. and the gop debate on fox business we're going to discuss the issues and how will the candidates make their points tomorrow night? making money starts right now. well, the countdown is on as our network gets ready to host our first republican presidential debate. and the timing couldn't be better as there are several narratives and let's face it.