tv The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan FOX Business November 18, 2015 2:00pm-3:01pm EST
attacks on friday that killed 129 people. i'm trish regan. welcome, everyone, to "the intelligence report." we're getting to paris in a moment. we're expecting breaking news out of washington. peter barnes joining with us details on these fed minutes. peter is this going to move the market? what have you got? reporter: trish as you know at the last meeting they emphasized they might move at the december meeting and the next meeting. here is what the minutes say. members, quote, emphasize this change to convey the sense while no decision had been made it may well become appropriate to initiate the normalization process at the next meeting, that is raise rates, provided that unanticipated shocks do not adversely affect the economic outlook and that incoming data support the expectation that labor market conditions will continue to improve and inflation will return to the you were fed's 2% objective over the medium term. members saw the updated language as leaving policy options open
for the next meeting. trish, back to you. trish: they want to have their cake and eat it too. we may see the rate hike if data. i want to get back to breaking news happening overseas. you have abaaoud, the suspected mastermind behind the terrorist attacks reportedly dead. it is believe he was killed in a seven-hour police raid of northern suburbs of paris. police fired 5,000 round during their assault on the attacker's hideout. there you're looking at video of that, of that event there last night that has come into us. at least two additional suspects are also killed, or dead. though the identities are still under investigation. i want to get reaction here from presidential candidate jeb bush a little later in the hour. first joining me right now, the
former homeland security advisor to president george w. bush, fran townsend. former u.s. assistant secretary of state, p.j. crowley. both great to have you here. you will see what paris had to deal with last night, basically a shootout, there a war zone in apartment complex in a northern suburb of paris. this seems to really what it's come down to. how do people in environment like this feel secure or is that just not possible, given the way the world is right now? >> when you look at the size of this gunfight, prosecutor tells us 5,000 rounds expended by police and security forces. you have got two dead. the building, the floor is collapsing, so they have been unable to identify those killed. they have not been able to confirm the identities. look, this is incredible. remember, you know, in paris, police officers aren't even armed general le. so this is quite stunning to the
people in paris, all over western europe. and i think people here in this country are rightly concerned about what is the likelihood we're going to see something here? look, the foreign, the majority of foreign fighters are in western europe. it is a smaller number here but the fbi estimates 250 foreign fighters back in the united states. they have almost 1000 subjects of terrorism investigations and the fbi director told us he has investigations into all 50 states. trish: here is the problem right now because those investigations could grow. they're talking about bringing 10,000 refugees in from syria into the united states of america in less than six weeks. we are a humane society. we want to help these people but at the same time we're going to help ourselves and we have to take care of our own and i think there are some real legitimate fears as to where our security, our national security is going
to be if we bring in all of these people from this region of the world that may have sympathies to extreme islam. p.j. crowley, join me with your thoughts on that. the administration says, yeah we can take them in. we should take more. hillary clinton wants 65,000 more. there are plans from the administration to bump it up to 100,000 over next couple years. realistically what does that do to our ability to protect the united states of america here on our own home turf? >> well, i think we have the ability to protect the united states of america and also to be the humane people that we are but i -- trish: by taking refugees in? >> i think we should do our duty. we talk about american leadership on -- trish: what is our duty? to bring them here to this country in your view? >> well, look, you have a situation today where there are 16 million refugees in the world.
more than existed at the end of world war ii. so we, the nights, have to be part of that -- the united states have to be part of that solution particularly if we say to other countries you should take your fair share. america leads by example f we say we're not going do do it, than other countries will say the same thing, then what you have situation people caught between borders. we have no choice here. trish: maybe the answer, i want to stay on this, for a minute, fran, thinking about how, how do we solve the situation in syria so these people don't need to flee in the first place? >> that is exactly right. this refugee crisis is symptom of the underlying problem in syria that he failed to deal with frankly. we ought to have a strategy that deals with the chaos in syria, gets rid of assad, deals with isis and terrorism problem there. and by the way, i don't disagree we ought to have an adequate vetting system that would allow us to take folks in, ref geese
in, but you will have the no adequate process to take 10,000 in the next six weeks. should push gulf arab partners, saudis, emiratis, take their fair share in arab-speaking countries to take those in. trish: what do you think of that? >> i think there is more being done there than we're acknowledging. by the way, in countries bordering syria today, lebanon, jordan, turkey, they have taken in some refugees that they have changed the demographics of their own country. i mean the region does need to do more. i think the region has to step up fundamentally so when you destroy the islamic state it is done by arab armies, not necessarily by american armies. there is a lot more the region needs to do but if the united states is going to be leader here we have to do our share. trish: just quickly, i want to remind people, we are getting reports that the mastermind
behind these attacks is dead. that i believe is according to the "the washington post." however that has not been confirmed independently by us. but nonetheless, "the washington post" and some others, daniel, that correct? confirming, yes, they are saying in fact this mastermind abaaoud, has been killed in the paris attacks. that said, fran townsend, it's a needle in a haystack so to speak, you get one or game of whac-a-mole, whatever analogy you want to use but there are plenty more. we got reports of course today eight suspects were arrested in turkey. they were trying to cross over into germany as quote, unquote refugees which gets back to the heart of this whole refugee issue that americans are worried about. >> that's right. look, the president sort of dismissed the governors concerns the other day but fact is, if this is an important priority of
the president and as p.j. said we're doing the humanitarian duty, the president will have to work with congress, acknowledge concerns of the governors and talk to us about what that vetting process looks like so the american people can have confidence we're not permitting an environment where isis and other terrorists can insert themselves in the flow of true refugees. trish: you have reality that the american people just don't like the idea of this one single bit. so i questioned politics of all this. i think may have ceded election to the republicans here because i think a lot of people throughout the country on both sides of the aisle feel pretty strongly about this one. that they want to be safe. p.j., fran, thank you so much. you brought me of course to our next topic. more than half of the nation's governors and now the house of representatives are trying to put a stop on president obama's refugee plan but the president is plowing forward, going forward with it anyway. reit rag plan to steadily increase number of refugees, accepting 85,000 next year and
100,000 in 2017. don't forget in less than six weeks he anticipates taking in 10,000 refugees in this country. he is firing back today at his republican critics. listen to this. >> apparently they're scared of widows and orphans coming into the united states of america. first they were worried about the press being too tough on them during debates. now they're worried about 3 yearly orphans. that doesn't sound very tough to me and it needs to stop because the world is watching. >> you know the problem here he is making this political. really doesn't need to be political. this is about national security. yet he is talking about whether republicans are scared of orphans and scared of debate moderators, neither of which having in to do with the reality. joining me scotty hughes and emily tish, joining me.
since he got political we'll go there too. scotty hughes, in an environment where we're in right now where americans are very focused on their future, their security, their safety, is it tone deaf of the president to say, i'm going to ignore what 30 governors across the country want? i'm going to ignore the wishes of the american people and i am going to bring in refugees from syria into this country anyway. >> this is just another example of this president politicizing a tragedy, to detract from the fact that 31% of americans think that the president's doing a bad job with isis. that was before paris happened. he sits there and throws out these shock and awe comments, we don't care about women and orphans, truth is, percentage of refugees that are 3 years old is only slightly under that is over 69 years old. very small percentage. the bulk of these refugees are 18 to 54. both equally men and women. as we saw last night with the
woman who detonated herself when she was actually addressed by police, terrorism isn't sexist. we have to look at women as well as men. he is refusing to face the facts and try to make this another political escape tool for him. trish: emily, we all love to win in a world where we don't have to worry about the things we worry about but reality is, hundreds of people were just killed on the streets of paris, by people that are islamic extremists, and we have a president of this country that won't even admit that they are religious extremists. what's wrong? >> look, the president said in his statement immediately after that it is a heinous crime and it is, but i think we need to be honest who refugees are. they are those that are fleeing the country because they are fleeing the terror. and i think your last guest was right. the u.s. is, we do need to be part of the solution. this is part of who we are as americans. we help people. 2/3 of those coming over are
women an children. look, the u.s. has settled over 3 million refugees since 1975. and not a single one of them has ever perpetrated an act of terrorism. trish: emily what do you -- >> hay i will jump in. news out of turkey today, eight people arrested there, all posing as quote-unquote refugees from syria. you pretty much anybody can go out right now, 250 bucks, 10 days will get you a syrian passport. how are you possibly, emily, going to vet these people in such a way that you can insure me and everyone else and all our kids out there that we're safe? >> i don't need to. i think the department of homeland security, terrorism, let's be honest what that system looks like. it is actually a 21-step system that takes somebody who -- trish: emily, 9/11. 9/11. i'm going to bring up 9/11. people coming into this country that should have been here. when we want to cite our
immigration department saying model of success reality we all know it is not. >> emily, i will go back june of this year when it was released 73 workers of the tsa had terrorist ties. that is how well our vetting system works. 73 workers involved in our airports and contractors with our airports had ties to terrorism. that they caught. you know, right now they have arrested 70 different people connected to isis terror plots here at home. many were refugees here seeking safety but were recruited by isis to be a part of this. these stories are over and over. hence why people do not trust necessarily. you can not group all refugees with the group coming from syria. there are two different worlds people are escaping. >> i want to share with you guys a report from the homeland security committee that the house put out that i read through and it actually quotes our immigration services, a member of the immigration services, an official saying when it came to looking at background checks for these refugees that have come into the
country, nearly 2,000 of them already here from syria, 90%, 90% of syrian refugee applicants, they get approved despite intelligence gaps an absence ability to thoroughly check for security risks. i don't know how you check all of these people in six weeks time and open the doors, to 10,000 potentially problematic individuals. emily, scotttee, stay with us. we'll continue this conversation. jeb bush, everyone, unveiling a plan for national security today, right here on "the intelligence report." the presidential candidate will explain why his strategy, he believes is the best for keeping americans safe. that's coming up. see you right back here in two minutes. ♪
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>> i was proud when the attacks in boston took place and we did not resort to fear and panic. boston strong, people went to the ballgame that same week and went back to the stores and went back to the streets. that is how you defeat isil. not by trying to divide the country or suggest somehow that our tradition of compassion should stop now. jo that is the president of the united states doubling down on his plan to bring syrian refugees into our country, even though his administration raised alarms about all of this are. listen. >> we'll not whoa know a whole lot about the refugees that come forward from the u.n. high commission for refugees and for settling and vetting. >> there are certain gaps i
don't want to talk about publicly in the data available to us. trish: kind of a problem, right? is refusing refugees really inhumane or is this common sense, given that we don't have the proper vetting procedures in place? joining me diane black, congresswoman from tennessee. your reaction to this the president saying this is effectively inhumane. we heard similar rhetoric from hillary clinton. but, is then, you hear, members of his own administration saying, there are gaps in our ability to vet these in so, is this just common sense? >> this is common sense when we use common sense to do number one purpose of administration and congress, that is to protect the american people. even the assistant director of the fbi has said, we're nowhere close to having a system where we can truly vet the people you're bringing into this country. we're compassionate people but
we have to also putnam per one, the national defense of this country in front of everything. trish: we have 30 governors here up, to 30, saying that we do not want these refugees in our states. we will not take them. but, once they're here, i mean, representative black, what is to stop a refugee who moves to a state that allows them from going anywhere else in the country? >> that is the problem. once they're here in this country, we're not going to track them. we've not done a very good job tracking people that come over our border and are dispersed throughout our country. many times you don't even know after they have been here for months even up to a year where in the world these folks are. so we don't have a system in place that we can assure the american people that yes, we're doing what our number one job is, that is to protect the common defense of this country. until we assure the american people that we have that uncontrol, we can not bring people into this country that may harm individuals.
trish: let me ask you this, representative. suppose, we go through with the 800,000 they take into germany. if i want to get on a plane to go to berlin tomorrow i can. theoretically, those 800,000 refugees from syria at some point would be in line for a german passport. as we look forward to this issue, that we have, this problem, with islamic extremism, fest turing all over the world, are we going to run the risk that european passports are going to be with these terrorists are traveling on in the future? >> trish bring up, a very, very good point. we're just talking about refugees right now, but when we look even deeper at what could potentially happen where people have passport from europe and they are able to come into this country where we're not tracking them, this is another really big hole in our security. and that brings the point that we really have to look at this in much larger perspective. we should be looking and making
sure we have a plan for all of these various pieces, that could potentially put the american people in harm's way. trish: congresswoman black, good to have you here. appreciate you taking the time. >> good to be with you. thank you for having me. trish: presidential candidate jeb bush, everyone is defending his stance on refugees, he says we still need to accept them but he wants increased screening. can you really do that? delicate line to walk here. he is my next guest. i will ask him right after this.
coming into the united states despite all of these growing fears. the presidential candidate joins us now. thank you for joining us. >> happy to be with you. trish: i want to start first with your plan on the refugees. less than six weeks from now, we will have 10,000 refugees from tram 11 coming into this country. there could be some islamic militants among them. such a way to keep ourselves safe? >> we should have a pause. the republican governors and others that have expressed concern, they have legitimate concerns. look, i was a governor of a state where we accepted refugees. we did not have the threat that embedded amongst those refugees whether they are from haiti or other places.
i think it is proper to pause, to take the time to create the proper screening. if you are an orphan that has been, it you know, part of the tragedy of the 250,000 lives lost or you are a christian where masses no longer given because christians have been obliterated, persecuted, beheaded, i think it is proper for the united states to accept people that are not a threat to our country. it should be done as it always has been done. in a very thoughtful way. trish: you are saying -- >> sure. on average, it always takes more than a year under normal circumstances. it would even take longer. if you are from a community that has been wiped out, you know who
those people are. it is not the most complicated thing to do. you are absolutely right. trish: you are mentioning christians. you have to vet. christians from syria, then we will find a way to get them in. how do you figure out exactly who you will allow when and who you are not? >> we are talking about hundreds , not talking about millions of people that are in that category. it is a betting process. there should be a pause in this whole process. there is no confidence that they are serious about this. we have an obligation, i think, to help people.
people don't travel to europe and other places. we need to lead. trish: imagine traveling to europe and other places. germany set to take 800,000 refugees into germany. preventing some of those folks of some of whom may not be properly vetted and coming to the united states. we enjoy a very open so society and a very open border, so to speak, with europe. do we run into a situation, governor where we now have to be triple checking anybody who is coming in safe on a french passport that has ties to the islamic community? >> it is a big challenge. i think taking in 800,000 refugees, that may be a
humanitarian act. significant national security problems for germany. it could create problems for us as well. that is why we need to create a solution to this. that is the distraction of isis. create a coalition led by the united states where we have safe havens in syria. we have a no-fly zone. rough place of god so that there is peace and security in syria to eliminate this national security threat that you are pointing out. trish: part of that means expanding our military. increasing the number of soldiers that we have and maybe even look at troops on the ground. how would you go about this? >> we need to defund the military. a trillion dollars the monies that were not spent. we do not have a strategy.
it should be a 21st century strategy where we focus on cyber warfare. expand the reach and power of our operators. rebuild the air force and army and marines and navy. we have allowed for the decline of american military power and we need to get back to strength. we need to make a commitment of spending more money over the long haul on the greatest driving force that exists in the world did. >> we really are living in a new day and age with terrorism itself. the way these terrorist communicate online. it has become very much an issue here at home. ever since edward snowden's revelation. there is concern now that we are challenged in our effort to balance privacy with also going after the bad guys. it is our intelligence community hindered right now as a result
for this scale back and what the nsa is able to do? >> i think that we are. now it will be canceled out by the end of this month. i think that there should be a reconsideration. it is part of a mosaic of strategies to keep us safe. there is way too do this. we have the ability to protect civil liberties in our country. we need to be vigilant. each day they send out hundreds of thousands of messages all around the world including the united states. including people that want to create chaos in the country. trish: governor, what do you consider the biggest threat to
the united states right now? >> well, we have a multitude of threats for sure. it could create problems down the road. i think the biggest problem today, and i lay this out in a speech to the reagan library two months ago, islamic terrorism. asymmetric threat that is organized to destroy civilization. we should take them at their word. only the united states can create a coalition to defeat them. trish: thank you. we appreciate you being here. >> one of jeb bush's biggest rivals. why ben carson's grasp on foreign-policy is being called into question right now by his own advisers. that is next. ♪ that whether times are good or bad,
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trish: november 18. bobby tindall dropping out of the race for president. he says simply, now is not my time. he will eventually support the republican nominee. ben carson is struggling with foreign-policy. at least that is the message they have been telling the "new york times." former cia official tells the paper "nobody has been able to
sit down with him and have a one iota intelligent information go through on the middle east." he added that carson needs weekly phone calls so we can "make him smart." this all stems from a fox news sunday interview. carson could not answer chris wallace on which country he would call. watch this. >> who would you call first, specifically, to put together. >> we really read and it appears we are making progress. all of the arab states and even the non-arab states who i think are beginning to recognize the jihad movement is global. it is not just local in the middle east.
trish: chris wallace just wanted to know which countries you would call on the edge whether or not foreign-policy in the candidate's knowledge could actually really her. scotty, i will start with you. it is the "new york times." they may have a little bit of agenda. it is kind of messed up. you have advisers to the campaign out there on record with quotes like this. is this going to hurt and carson? >> absolutely. ben carson is not number two and most of the polls. he is number two because of his calm demeanor and the fact that he seems opposite of the other candidates that seem a little more off spoken. when it comes to crisis, these kind of actions are where you
will see chris christie, harley fio reena, jeb bush and donald trump. not as outspoken. >> to scotty's point. this new new hampshire higher poll. it is reflective, of course, of friday's news. in it, you see ben carson falling a bit. 13% after paris. compared to 16% previously. donald trump coming out the winner here. 23% of voters they are in the first of the nation primary supporting him after paris. again, i will point out, you hate to talk about all of this in a way that handicaps a race. i really do. nonetheless, this is going to become front and center in this election. the person that can present
themselves as the one that can really handle themselves on an international stage is going to come out ahead. in your view, what does this mean for someone like ben carson and others in the republican field? >> sure. i do think that there is a lot of truth to that. you have to be reading in an intelligent way. be able to understand the complicated forces that are at play. carson really showed that he does not know who those forces are. leadership is one thing. having a really clear underlined is another thing. many of those in the presidential field are currently in the senate. something that they could act on today that they have never talked about is the fact that we do not have a confirmed secretary of the army. they have all been nominated by the president did they have all
been held up in the senate. this is something that we can act on right now. trish: you look at donald trump and you see that he has surged in the polls. does that suggest that americans feel like he would be tough on terror in a way that maybe others are not? mainly because it is the idea of strength. short term you will see people making the soundbites right now. this will have a lot to do with security. all along, conciliar sleep thing we need to secure our borders. 8000 going to brazil. people will realize they are coming straight to the u.s. those that may also cross strait over the border. refugees welcome on the white
house twitters feed. that is his idea of getting the word out? being able to keep that family safe. >> overly politicized. trish: coming up next, everyone, my intel on the refugee crisis here at home. 10,000 people are expected to arrive here on our cell oil in just six weeks time. this is a national crisis. governors are weighing in. will the president listened? that is next. ♪ ism. it's what sparks ideas. moves the world forward. invest with those who see the world as unstoppable. who have the curiosity to look beyond the expected and the conviction to be in it for the long term. oppenheimerfunds believes that's the right way to invest...
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them during the debates. now they're worried about 3-year-old orphans. that does not sound very tough to me. and it needs to stop because the world is watching. trish: this refugee crisis is being politicized. that is not good. it is not right. not the time nor the place for all this finger-pointing. forgetting who we are as americans. conservatives and liberals alike. everyone. everyone wants to keep us safe. this is a common goal. we need to destroy isis. there is also reality however unfolding here. we open our borders. we are exposing ourselves. right now potential terrorist threats. there is really no way to properly vet these people.
>> we will not know a whole lot about the individual refugees that come forward. for resettlement and vetting. >> my concern there is that there are certain gaps. not wanting to talk publicly in the data available to us. trish: here we are. less than six weeks from now beginning to take in 10 million refugees from serious. it may be time here to take ben franklin's advice and remember as he said and i quote an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. we will talk more about this entire issue. in 10 days time, $250, you can get a state syrian passport. ambassador bolton will weigh weigh-in about this very serious risk.
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call unitedhealthcare today. ♪ trish: all of this talk of bringing in refugees from serious, i want you to consider this. one of the paris suicide offers used a fake passport to get into europe. john bolton joining me now with more on this passport trade and the dangers of it. ambassador bolton, welcome. good to see you. unfortunate circumstances. tell us your concern here. a new investigation out that was done by the guardian did able to get a serious passport in 10 days time for $250. they also said they could get one in four days time via the other serious embassy for $2500.
there is a market for this stuff. >> well, there is. how porous the european borders are. particular in a time that we are in right now. out of north africa and the broader middle east. simply overburdened you'd countries like greece and the others bearing the brunt of the refugee flows. the first problem is keeping outside the european union. people that do not have legitimate right to comment. the problem grows even more acute. trying to do what we succeeded in doing several hundred years ago. there are scenes in european law-enforcement that they have not been able to fill. once safely in europe, potential
have time to get the documents that they need to get inside the united states. trish: you bring up a very good point. we have already heard that isis wants to populate these populations with members of their extreme islamic religious fundamentalist group that wants to embark on this jihad. how do you ensure that you would not have a member of isis, link from lane from germany into the united states of america at some point? >> it certainly raises the prospect. setting up networks in the united states. may be able to do what we saw unfold in paris on friday. the german cases very and struck them. the lebanese said that he estimated that something like 2%
of all the refugees flowing into germany may be terrorist. angela merkel said that she would open germany to 800,000 serious refugees. they are close to being correct. that is 16,000 terrorist. trish: oh, my goodness. thank you very much. donald trump, everyone. he is out with a new threat on radical islamic terrorism. we have it for you. we will share it right after this. ♪
. >> the tragic attacks in paris prove once again that america needs to get tough on radical islamic terrorist. president obama and other politicians have consistently failed us. i will stop illegal immigration. we'll build a wall on the southern border, and yes, i will also quickly and decisively bomb the hell out of isis. trish: oh! all right, he's going to
quickly and decisively bomb the hell out of isaksen, donald trump's new radio ad, everyone, where he says we need to deal with the immigration issue. tomorrow on the show, senator john mccain is going to weigh in on the entire refugee issue and the threat isis. in the meantime, liz clamaned hads you into the close. liz: a rally on our hands, up 197 points. french authorities working minute-by-minute to identify suspects living and dead to determine if the mastermind of friday's deadly paris attacks. was one nabbed in the overnight siege? that's the question. police firing 5,000 rounds and throwing grenades in a massive shoot-out in heavily muslim populated saint-denis near the stade de paris