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consumers? higher prices for viagra or something? >> heaven forebid. >> but my time is up, neil cavuto, it's yours, neil. neil: that last nine was the line of your show. heavens forbid is right. touche. more on that in a minute, i want to bring you. you to date on the search where this paris attacker is but now increasingly where he was. and apparently frequenting italy as early as august and reports he may have made it from syria to greece as part of that first refugee wave, we don't know. he was a busy fellow and very busy trying to find where the heck he is. all of this at the same time we are beefing up air strikes against isis, more like oil positions or those trucks that carry black market oil to and from god knows who. the u.s. is saying 283 oil
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trucks were impounded and obliterated in eastern syria, they've been doing similar damage to those oil facilities and the transportation sector of that oil. too early to tell. this is what we know, they're not messing around when it comes to financing that isis gets. now to that big deal we're talking about between pfizer. a $155 billion deal, but what's drawing the attention of politicians here is that a big u.s. company incorporates in ireland. >> that's right. and the numbers bear that out. it's very interesting to have a large deal like this that creates the largest drug company in the world, as you say $155 billion, it's a big deal but even bigger deal why it's getting done. taxes are too high here in the united states, it's the pfizer
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ceo who has been saying that and saying it for some time. he's been railing about this problem saying american companies are at a competitive disadvantage to their counterparts overseas because of taxes. so the way you solve that is don't be an american-based company anymore. even though pfizer is the largely company, allergyin does the buy in here. taxes are a lot lower and the numbers behind me show you how much lower, 20% rate is what pfizer is estimated to be paying across the company before this deal gets done, after, they're estimating it goes down to 20%. so obviously that adds up and save a lot of money over time. the stocks are both down today, a bigger drop there for allergien, i know the joke about viagra, making a bet on botox, but the bottom line is
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it's about taxes and the ceo has been saying it leading up to the deal now he finally gets one done. interesting. back to you. neil: the fact that allergy jen is the buyer here. >> right. neil: does that mean that they negate the whole debate or pounce and say we don't know what you're doing. >> we don't know yet there's been talk -- and at the end of stuart's show from bernie sanders, it still must get through the regulators, the treasury secretaries have a lot to say about this. they've tried to put laws in place to prevent this. so they'll take a look at it. but most analysts think that this probably goes through at this point. that's what they've been saying at this point. neil: all right, connell, thank you very much. we'll be hearing more on that. now to my buddy charles payne and what this is all about. taxes higher over here, lower over there, set up shop over there, charles, it's not the first time we've seen this but
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it is in response to a company that says i don't care if i catch heat from politicians, it's business. charles: it's business and, listen, anyone who is watching and is an accountant is trying to understand what they're doing because we all try to pay the lowest tax bill, it's smart. particularly for a business that also has the political horizon where you may have a presidential candidate in there for what you can charge for drugs, caps on profits you can make. these drug companies are in serious, serious trouble to begin with and then on top of it the idea that somehow we penalize any company for making money outside of this country is really so crazy that we've gotten over 50 of them right now, a lot in the last couple of years and we'll see more like this. neil: but this is so brazen to think of it. regardless of the subject, we'll have the smaller fish buy the bigger fish when we know the bigger fish is going to be in charge of the combined fish. but we're doing this to avoid any debate and maybe do an end run around.
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do you think it's going to work? charles: i don't know. so many billions of dollars to figure it out, but allergy jen will own 44%. neil: right. charles: but they're taking over the company that owns 56%. that's an odd thing. neil: to connell's point. they figured at the very least it's going to lead to a 5% lower tax rate on the -- some have said lower than that. when you're making billions of dollars, you can quickly understand the rational. charles: new drugs are taxed differently in ireland so any of this will make huge profits. net profits. gilead is a company that has done this and their latest drug that have been pumped out, pure profits. i mean gobs and gobs of money. it's worth it for the public heap that these guys will take, worth it for shareholders, worth it for the company. neil: do you think we would
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wake up and say not by legislating against it but making lower rates here so that they're not entertaining the thought. charles: that's the yeses crazy part of this thing, this is inversion. why don't we penalize apple for selling iphone in chinese? what we do is make them hoard money over there and sooner or later they've got to spend it. and guess what? they'll open a new factory in a china. we don't we let them bring this money back? it's crazy. neil: and to talk about the rush to get 2 trillion back, it says nothing about all of these tax plans and how you prevent trillions more from leaving here. because even if you get temporary tax holiday, the incentive is still out there with higher tax rates to ship it abroad. charles: yeah, i asked donald trump why don't you make it zero percent? make it zero. you know, it's so funny because liberals love to talk about what europe does -- our social policies and economic policies. well, guess what? europe does not have a
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terrestrial tax plan, they do not pencils for selling products outside of the home country. we are the only country that does it. neil: very good. he makes lots of them. great points. coming up at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. anything good tonight? charles: we're going to talk about the isis money trail. they make so much money from farming, theft, other things. i mean it's amazing. they have created an economic system that is akin to a nation. maybe that's how we have to fight them. neil: well, they are a nation. charles: they are a nation. but bringing out the oil things, it's too little too late. neil: well, we're going after the wrong stuff. that wouldn't be the first time. whether you like this pfizer deal or not, adding up we're looking so far this year $2 trillion worth of deals. now, the record is back in 2007 when we had a little north of $2.3 trillion, easily looking like we're going to bust that cap.
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that could be the new record, good thing, bad thing, still doesn't find it to be an encouraging thing. jim likes what this is saying about the underlying market. so, jim, you like this why? >> well, i'm not crazy about it. because we're losing one of our best companies to an overseas competitor. but at the end of the day we're not getting profits done from regular profits from selling more stuff we're not getting profits done from revenues. so these mergers and acquisitions and these corporate buy backs have helped to push the markets higher. i don't think it's the right way to do it but generally it pushes the market higher. i think the reason the market isn't going higher have toker is a we're losing one of our better companies and b this doesn't close until the end of next year and c as you've been pointing out with we're going to have a lot of regulatory push back on this. so there's a lot of question marks about this deal. i don't think mergers and acquisitions are the right way to push a market higher but generally they do push a market higher. you still have to get that
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corporate tax rate into position like you were saying, where corporations are more profitable, have more revenues, more customers coming through the front door . neil: you know, gary, i'm wondering between these big deals and a lot of stocks buy backs, they're not the most creative way but they do work. you argue this type of stuff only works in the short-term; right? >> well, i think this is late stage bull market action, neil. it always happens this way. you have to keep in mind pfizer, sales are down year over year, and the ability to do these buyouts are happening because a easy money and b with stock prices up, your currency is higher so you can buy it. and as you see allergen the price is down why? very simply the deal may not get done because of the regulatory stuff and everything else surrounding it. so i wouldust be really careful and, by the way, the marriott deal, that price is down also.ling you
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something. neil: do you think, though, -- >> i think -- neil: go ahead. >> pointed out -- neil: you don't mind because the focus i want to get on here is whether compelled those in washington rather than slap fines on companies that do this sort of thing to think why? maybe it's our high corporate tax rate. maybe they could take a cue from ireland and these lower tax mentalities and understand that's what draws money. >> here in taxes we've gotten a lot of businesses from california for this same reason. i can't figure out for the life of me why politicians can't figure this out. you creative incentives, you create jobs. tennessee has done the same thing. florida has done the same thing. now they're doing it on a country basis. and how ironic that these very politicians that created these statistic tax laws now rail against the very side effects that they create.
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it's only in america is that happening right now. neil: but i don't see that environment changing any time soon. so, gary, that might feed your bearish beast here; right? >> well, i've got to tell you. it better change or we're going to lose more companies. just think about this. pfizer potentially is going to save three-quarters of a billion dollars a year. that is a heck of a lot of cake for research and developments to bring on new drugs and also to benefit shareholders. that's what a corporation's job is to improve their future as well as shareholder wealth. we're going to see a lot more of this. not unless our wonderful human beings in washington do something about it. but so far, it's a bunch of yap, yap, yap. neil: all right. guys, i want to thank you because we're donne done. but i appreciate it. i want to switch across the pond right now and in this latest brussels crack down, they're in the third day of a lock down. i can't stress enough how life changing that is.
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you can't shop, a lot of rails are shut down. buses aren't operating. i mean you are forced to stay indoors. that's pretty weird. and in a major western country to all the lock down and prevent anyone from doing much of anything, including shopping. that's pretty strong. just what are they worried about and who are they looking for? and what prompted this unprecedented move on the part of the western power to say everyone frees? after this
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the works, even though they've arrested more than half a dozen. i guess the fear is that something is still afoot. to ashley webster on the latest not only what's going on there but also european powers plans to eradicate isis. joins us now from paris. hey, ashley. >> hey, neil, yes, brussels as you say is in lock down although i have to point out the buses were running today, not the subway, the universities and schools were closed, some businesses open but not a lot of people coming out on the streets as the belgium government had asked them to do. it stall stihl flames way at this hour. the major task is to find europe's most wanted man. now, he was involved in the attacks here in paris 10 days ago. he has managed to avoid -- slip through the net. he was detained the day after the attacks close to the belgium border, he got away and there are reports he got
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away again last night in the belgium city. they believe he could be, though, germany. so the chase goes on. meanwhile british prime minister david cameron was in paris today meeting with the french president. they went tore one of the sites of the attacks, the concert hall and then afterwards had a news conference in which the british prime minister said it's time we must step up corporation in the fight against isis. >> we must share information and intelligence to better protect ourselves from these brutal terrorists. the uk and france are already doing this but today we've agreed to step up our efforts even further and to work more closely with our european neighbors. >> president is going to be a very busy guy, met with cameron today, goes to washington d.c. tomorrow to meet with president obama, comes back to france to meet german chancellor and then on
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thursday going to meet with vladimir putin. try to come on consensus the best way to confront and eyes wipe it out. meanwhile life goes on here in paris, neil, shops are empty, hotel bookings are done 57% year over year and the restaurants reporting very light business. by the way, france was the most visited country in 2014. tourists love this place but the terror attacks have put a dent in the economy as well. neil: and he will be understandable. all right. be safe yourself, ashley. by the way, asocial was talking we're getting word about how various capitals deal with this terror mess. in new york governor is instituting a new see something, send something campaign. it's like an app that -- to help people, again, relay concerns that might be amist here. i don't know how it will work
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but the state will higher 46 more police officers to increase counterterrorism capabilities at grand central terminal. but working through this app. now, since a lot of terrorists use phones to ignite and start to trigger their attacks, we're not sure how that would enjoyed with them. but be that as it may, it's another state taking the effort to build on this see something, say something, you know, analytics. i don't know. we'll see. rick on the u.s. now is not only fighting against isis but going right to isis to the effect they have so dramatically and swiftly. many have been telling me they're fighting yesterday's battle. in other words, they're going after oil trucks and the like but charles payne was here not too long ago saying this was last year's financing. there many, many more clever ways they're cleaning the money flowing. what do you think they're the right kind of attacks?
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>> well, like, look, it's going to take a lot of different steps, it doesn't work unless the united states leads this. this is a very situation situation and we keep seeing president obama downplay this and there's a role to make sure we're not panicking. going about a b our day to day to donate let the terrorists swim. but you want to see the president take this seriously and i think what's happening is we've seen the president consistently mock those who try to make isis a serious situation. he consistently ridicules those who want to make it -- make a credible threat of military action. he's called them jv. he says they've been contained. i think the president is taking it the wrong way. he's making it seem no big deal and then we all get relax and then we don't have governors trying to come up with ways to make sure we're all reporting information and the intelligence community is
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pulling in the pieces. the only way that we're going to get these guys is to get them before they do the attack, which means we've got to be aggressive. neil: but, you know, rick, the president and flush this out to me, saying to your strategy and prior ways we've responded to terrorists been there, done that, failed at that. that the predictable response has always been the predictable terror. and it's not as if all of these military raids and attacks have eased up on the -- the terrorist activity. so he's saying, well, maybe that's what's wrong. what do you think of that? >> well, i don't think that president obama has ever really -- ever really instituted a national security strategy. from the beginning when he was running for president in 2008 in the cornfields of iowa, he made this promise to not start any new wars, to bring all of our troops home. that is a message to the terrorists that weren't going
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to penalize them for taking action. look, the reality is we don't have enough intelligence officers in syria and iraq to know exactly where to back home. our drone campaign, president obama's droning campaign from the air has not been effective. and we know that because president halin was telling us isis still had training camps but yet we've been bombing for a year. the reason why that is not working is president obama's national security strategy does not include enough boots on the ground to know where to bomb. we don't have accurate and timely intelligence. that takes breaking his political promise, which is to not have anymore boots on the ground or not start any new wars because president obama fundamentally believes if he sends in hundreds of men and women, u.s. military men and women to figure out the intelligence on the ground to help the drone campaign, then he somehow is creating this
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war. so i don't think it's fair to say that president obama's campaign has been working. earlier hasn't implemented a quality campaign. it's been a political one. neil: interesting because to your point is that, look, he wants the hands off approach as much as possible and limited surgical strategic strikes, whatever you want to call it and that will do it. we'll see. rick, thank you very much. good seeing you again. >> see you, neil. neil: all right. last week was also news and major health, united health care saying we have it with obama, it's killing us, losing money hand over first. and we're going to opt out. now other insurance developments saying we're hurting too. this is killing us too. we might opt out. so let's say all of these insurance companies that provide the backbone to these health care exchanges, let's say they all leave. then what do you do? well, if you want to keep obamacare going, you bail it out. what's another trillion. really? among friends. after this
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neil: okay. you know, i hear all of these people moaning, oh, it's going to be a bad christmas shopping season, people just aren't going to do. and then i keep looking at amazon, this thing goes higher and higher and higher, has more than doubled this year it expects to have a very, very strong shopping season, highering about 100,000 temporary workers to get through, making sure that those packages get to you but some of the retailers aren't so sure. i can't figure it out. i do know that amazon is on fire and believes you will be as well. getting jazzed for the holidays and shopping. we shall see. all right. well, betsy mccoy not so jazzed about obamacare. that's been her case since before this thing was formally cooked up and, boy, she was accurate about so much that has come to pass. but the latest is this development that united health care, big insurance said no more. this thing is killing us, we might opt out because obamacare as we know it and our support for these changes isn't exactly lighting our financial fire, so we might just call it quits. betsy mccoy, what happened?
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>> well, certainly the administration is afraid of that and the outrage is that they want to use our money, taxpayer money, to bail out these insurance companies in order to keep obamacare on life support., they haven't said that. >> okay. oh, they have. neil: when did they say it? i didn't hear it. >> that's right. the centers for medicare and medicaid issued an announcement within hours of united health care saying they might back out of this marketplace, cms issued an announcement in writing saying they were going to go to congress to seek funding. that means our money, neil, seek funding to make insurance companies hold for the losses they're suffering. i've got it right here. . neil: okay. well, i'm going to believe you for now, but my worry is that for every united health care, there's probably a few behind it. >> oh, yes. neil: and you do that for all of these insurance companies, you're talking about a bailout that could make anything that they're contemplating for kids on their college look like chump change.
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>> that's right. they bad-mouthed bank bailouts, but it's okay to bail out insurance companies in order to save the president's signature legislation. and we are talking about many billions of dollars. neil: well, what happened happen? what did those insurance companies do for the exchanges? they're like the default sort of payer? explain how they work. >> well, the way the law is written, the insurance companies that make money selling obamacare are supposed to put money into a fund to help the insurance companies that lose it. but the fact is that almost all of the lost money, $2.5 billion in 2014 and more losses piling up this year. so ther there is no money in that pot. very little money to reimburse the insurers so the obama administration says no problem. we'll ask the public to do it . neil: then they ask joe public to do it, joe public is unaware the way that this is going that it's being done. this is something that they wouldn't have to necessarily shop from the highest mountain; right? they could just say this is part of
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federal government responsibilities to keep obamacare going; right? >> that's what they're trying to do. but, in fact, last year they tried it, they tried to weasel it through and the republicans in congress said, oh, no, you can't do that without an appropriation and they refused to vote one. neil: what is the legal right here? can the government do this? >> no. they cannot. neil: okay. understood. thank you very much, kiddo, i appreciate it. have a great thanksgiving. >> you too. neil: all right. in the meantime, you've seen all the latest in paris with ashley and what's going on in brussels third day of lock down there. you know, all of this politically back home has helped one person more than any other. who do you think that person is? i'll give you a hint. gray hair. after this but what if you could see more of what you wanted to know? with fidelity's new active trader pro investing platform, the information that's important to you is all in one place, so finding more insight is easier. it's your idea powered by active trader pro.
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neil: all right. not surprising the latest polls donald trump is doing very, very well, that has been the case almost from the very beginning when he entered this race. with very rare exceptions. what is interesting is what has happened to the second and third and fourth positions. connell on how, for example, the latest terror attacks have changed the complexion of this race. >> neil, a lot for us to dig through these latest poll figures because not only does donald trump have a comfortable lead now, 28-18 over dr. ben carson but cruz and rubio have made moves and they've established now a clear top four. 14% for both of them. all the way down to 5% before you get to jeb bush. now, the proof of payment we've seen in the last few
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weeks, took a fox news poll early november and since then, we've seen dr. carson lose 5 points. so carson is going down while cruz and rubio have come up to tighten those two, three, and four spots, they've added three points a piece and trump has gone up by 2 points. why is that happening? well, you have to look at the issues. you mention terrorism. you would think the economy with issue number one in the presidential race, the economy's stupid, well, not right now. not with what's happening in paris. terrorism tops the economy as the top issue for american voters and this fox news poll. the economy is too nothing else is close. but that certainly seems to have helped cruz and rubio. seems to have helped trump. now, why is carson down? maybe part of it is the same phenomenon. but also look at this. these are the trust numbers for dr. ben carson. last time we took a poll, again, that was early november, carson 60% in terms of do you trust ben carson? 60% said "yes." that number is
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now down to 53%. so he has lost 7 there as questions have come up about his biography and also news flow on terrorism has hurt him but certainly helping the others. interesting numbers. back to you. neil: very interesting. connell, thank you very, very much. so if you are marco rubio or ted cruz, you're looking at the developments and saying you know what? we kind of see ourselves becoming the establishment alternatives. and we're going to fight it out and duke it out amongst ourselves to see who merges and why they're playing it the same way. i always follow the donors money closely because as they open their wallets, a sentiment building for a candidate and a confidence building for that candidate, is any one of those guys getting an edge, the other does not. >> you know, ted cruz has a very robust fundraising operation. what's really interesting about his is it's fairly even. he has the number two biggest
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number of grassroot donors after ben carson and the number two biggest donors after jeb bush. so earlier has a balance of, you know, regular people out there in iowa and, you know, wall street and other big donors. so he's someone really to with all due respect of. he also has those four super pacs that are just waiting to support him. rubio has a smaller operation but there's a lot of people who haven't really picked a horse yet. someone -- the next debate is going to be at his hotel. neil: that's right. >> yeah. and he's someone that we heard whispers that he's a rubio guy, he hasn't necessarily thrown in his lot yet but rubio has been having conversations with him. so we'll have to see where he puts his money down. it seems both of these guys are going to be well funded because there's a lot of money to go around right now. neil: yeah, to your point, even the coke brothers who have not come into account and maybe they won't for a while,
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they want to see how the candidates duke it out first before they commit money. and in your point in marco rubio's case, he gets widespread bipartisan place for his performance at the debate, and he would present a younger establishment alternative to everything going on in the world and but -- it's always the big but -- he has a devil of a time raising money, the money doesn't flow nearly as feeler as it does for ted cruz. why is that? >> you know, a lot of jeb bush's donors, their second choice would be marco rubio. neil: right. >> and when jeb bush was stumbling, you saw rubio's campaign immediately reaching out to jittery jeb bush donors. so as jeb bush continues to sink, you think you keep an eye on those big jeb bush donors, because i think they're giving rubio a look and some of them are giving cruz a look -- but, you know, the bulk of them i think have their eye on rubio. neil: interesting. very interesting. thank you so much. good seeing you again. >> thanks, neil,.
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neil: in the meantime we are keeping another eye on chipotle. in case you thought that this e. coli scare was behind the big restaurant chain, well, think again. they've got some problems and now they've got sick customers. after this can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul?
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neil: well, one scare, take a look what's going on with chipotle stock, the fact of the matter is this stock is down north of 15% from when we get the first case of e. coli reported and gerri willis outside of chipotle in midtown manhattan now that it might not be over its problems. gerri, what's the latest? >> well, the latest is that 45 people have been infected in some six states. take a look at this map. washington and oregon hardest hit. washington has 26 cases. oregon 13. there's even a case in new york, one in ohio, one in minnesota, and two in california. obviously this is a bigger problem growing problem. the c.d.c. has said they're
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not sure what caused this, they assumed maybe it was a common menu item that everybody had, they're just not clear on it yet. they're still trying to find it out. but we were really curious about what was going on in chipotle's stores. are people not eating here anymore? right now there's about a dozen people in line and 20 people sitting down and eating, and we talked to a lot of clients customers, avid customers of this store about what was going on. millennials, they are so loyal to this brand, they love this brand. and i told them as i was talking to them, look, e. coli is 026, that's the bug that you can get in your intestines from this store, it causes bloody diarrhea, listen to this. >> at what point do you guys put aside your loyalty to chipotle? >> when i have bloody diarrhea. >> when we get it. >> so you can see these people, they don't care. they're still going to chipotle here, and it wasn't
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just these folks from washington and oregon, but we met new yorkers as well who were still going. it says millennials who love this brand and they believe that the food is a fresh and b safe. neil, back to you. neil: let me get this right. they're eating there, having a fine day, gerri willis walks in, be careful, you're going to have bloody diarrhea, how did that go down? [laughter] not well. >> i had one guy walk past me here and said gee, i hope it's okay. meanwhile together a huge back of chipotle. . neil: well, aren't you the bear of great news. gerri smiling wilson we call her. now to get a medical read on how real are the threats, dr. powers on this e. coli threat. a lot of people who love this place say i just want anything with beef. >> right. it is often found in under cooked beef and
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pasteurized diary products and produce as well. neil: so my tolerance for heavily chemically latent food with a lot of preservatives may not be a bad strategy. >> i don't know about that, neil,. neil: i just wanted you to give me the green light. >> yeah. neil: but really what do you have to avoid when you go there or anywhere what you're leery about what seemed to be focused largely on beef products. what do you believe of? >> correct. i think the most important thing to keep in mind although the instance has doubled from the beginning of the month, it has doubled 45, however, that's relatively small when you think about it. so the risk is very shawl. we're looking at -- in the grand scheme of things, put in things perspective, looking at pneumonia and inflection a, zero, zero deaths from e. coli. good thing to do, though, good practice would be to wash your hands, make sure all the beef
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is well cooked, we find it in produce, under cooked beef and unpasteurized dairy products. neil: but you would know if they mixed it with some sort of. >> right. neil: you wouldn't know. >> well, you seem like a pretty healthy guy, neil,. neil: thank you. >> so the people who should really worry and, again, that risk is small. neil: right. >> the very old, very young, and then the also immunocompromised, you mightabot organized the beef in chipotle this week. neil: yeah, processed meats and cheeses. >> exactly. neil: now, what do you think of gerri willis who walked up to pete eating at chipotle and said there could be blood in their diarrhea,. >> i probably wouldn't eat if i heard blood in diarrhea, but it is accurate. so the symptoms are nausea vomiting, abdominal cramps and diarrhea, specifically of this strain is bloody diarrhea.
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e. coli is in our body, it's normal, however, according to the c.d.c., some strains are harmful and infectious and these small strains cause this bloody diarrhea a. neil: i appreciate it. meanwhile anybody in america if you see gerri willis popping up to you in a restaurant. run. we'll have more after this
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call these inversions, that is not the case here, get away with murder and bernie sanders saying it would be a disaster for america, already pay the highest prescription drug prices. of course the quick fix to all of this would be a lower corporate tax rate in this country, but who am i to do international busy policy? all right. onto some other developments here. liz macdonald has been looking at all of these cyber attack worries that have been building. and i guess in paris even more so but what do we got? liz: talking to and also the talking to the fbi, one theme always pops out. they're worried about an attack on utilities and the grid. they're worried about a cyber attack -- we're talking about. a cyber attack on the transportation network. so those are the two. neil: can you imagine? liz: yeah, that is their dire most worst-case scenario that they're concerned about. both on wall street and the fbi. neil: shuts down the entire group.
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you shut down the grid, power to everything goes. liz: yeah, a rolling blackout and you may not know it's underway. one area of the country would get a hit and it would be a rolling movement across the country. so they're modeling constantly for these kinds of attacks. and, you know, this comes fast on the heels of friday's report. this is a separate story. the inspector general for the state department, again, said what you know? the cyber security walls are really bad at the state department, it's been a problem now for six years, going on six years. when you have the state department's classified information so as it is, you have to say something is going on there. neil: and the fact that we're so often, some of our companies, defense department. liz: yeah,. neil: you know, companies and on and on all the way up to officials, we seem to be easy pickings. liz: yeah, the head of federal express has said every fortune 500 company he can safely say
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has either been cyber attacked or has been tried to be broken into via cyber warfare. cyber hacking. so, you know, i'll tell you. the fact that our own government is still not up to speed and our until general keeps raising the red flags and, you know, they're not empowering their cios, chief information officers in these agencies to actually do something to fix the problem, then what are we doing. neil: i always wonder are they doing a little prehiney covering. when they a is we don't think we're up to speed on this, or a threat is eminent, you're always leading the possibility, well, we knew something was hamming, we couldn't quite be specific about it, but we had a feeling. liz: yeah, that's a good point. in other words, we do push these reports out. when you have an agency like that, a lot of federal agencies, the responsibility gets watered down and the accountability gets watered down and they say, well, we did give you this report and you didn't do anything about
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it and that guy could have left his or her job. neil: switching gears a little bit on this pfizer deal, they're trying to sell the principles behind it is that it's not an inversion. allergen buying the bigger player, but you can't bypass the inversion critics. liz: well, they're saying this t that way -- this is a collision course -- neil: avoid that debate? liz: they're in compliance now with the treasury's department's own rule. allergen buying pfizer, but they're going to have a bigger stake. they're trying to come within the letter of the law on ownership stake. the issue is double taxation of foreign profits and the corporate rate. the head of pfizer repeatedly has said, neil, he doesn't like the corporate rate structure. he said he's going to execute this deal. he's try to do prior overseas deal in the past. i don't know if bernie sanders can get the administration to block it because it had block it on antitrust measures.
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when pfizer is saying they're going to split into two within two years' time. neil: that's right. this would be split into two. liz: a health care of a fight; right? and you don't have to be on the left or right on this, a lot of companies that do this, 50 in the last year, do so because the rates have r so high. so any politician argues against this, and there's a good reason to say, hey, this is not patriotic, what have you, is it patriotic to lose american jobs? is it patriotic to kiss off thousands of workers that might otherwise had jobs or heaven forbid you have lower tax rates to keep them here in the first place. the fact of the matter this is an epidemic what's going on here. companies are leaving here because -- well, it's so eas to and chapter chases where it is least disruptive. and in ireland right now not nearly as disruptive as it is here in the united states. so the better part for a lot of these guys might not be railing for these things to understand why these things keep happening. we have a high tax rate and
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neil: when i talk to robert gates about isis and whether we are up to speed about addressing
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isis, leave it to barack obama self-defense guy to say, you know what, we kind of botched it. listen to this. >> when the president first referred to isis, it set the tone and delayed the response. it is too late now. >> i do not know if it is too late. i do think that we have, all along, underestimated isis. >> secretary scott rossi. you heard what he had to say. >> i am not even interested in going back in time here. whether we are doing enough now. appreciate our intelligence. >> let's hope we do. i am not entirely convinced of that. president news conference from turkey last week at the g 20 basically said, we're doing fine and we will keep doing fine.
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i do not hang that it is fine. looks like quite a mess to me. >> the war on this country and that country and the loss of american lives and great campaign to bear it little with what they do. the knee-jerk response is got to stop. >> what you tried has not worked, you need to go back and try out a better solution. that is the obvious answer to that. neil: well, i do not know. that approach did not work geared you could argue that the president's approach is not working. >> the president approach has been absolutely minimal. five or six or seven a day. we could put an aircraft carrier off the coast of syria and
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conduct dozens, hundreds. that would be a sign we are taking it seriously. we could enforce a no-fly zone over serial. provide protection for sunnis that are otherwise looking forward from isis and iraq. we could arm the kurds more than we have. there is a lot of things that we can do. the president has not tried that. neil: what brings that to my mind is, you know, the soccer game last week, i think, in turkey. that moment of silence for the parasitic dumps. everyone seemed to be yelling at the same time. our god is great.
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they seem to be supporting them. >> the people of the united states today, whether there is more respect or less respect for the u.s. now than seven or eight years ago, i think that the answer would be pretty conclusive. less now than there was a president obama took office. we are in contempt right now. neil: and they laugh at us. thank you very much. the very latest now on how french and officials may admit key pieces of intelligence and what ultimately was an isis direct attack on a western power. ashley all more on that in paris. ashley: they did not connect the
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dots. they have been tapping the phone. it was part of an unrelated drug trafficking operation. it turns out the days after these attacks here on november 13, investigators learned that it was related to the cousin of abdelhamid abaaoud. he was inspected of orchestrating the attacks that took the lives of 130 people. it was not until intelligence provided by morocco led police to that apartment. shootout. that is where abdelhamid abaaoud and a third person were killed. a late discovery that there was a connection to abdelhamid abaaoud. stunned investigators. what we have in front of ourselves is a complete failure.
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let us not forget that the french authorities .that abdelhamid abaaoud was in syria. showing him riding around on the french subway at the very moment those attacks were taking place. we just found out that a fourth person has now been charged on terrorism. charges in belgium, as we know. twenty-one people arrested in the last 24 hours. they are rounding up suspects. they are not getting bags that people that they want. they're wanting them to know that they are on their tail. neil: ashley, very quickly. i know you have been working around the clock. rarely does a report go by that i do not hear sirens in the background. i am wondering, that has to be unnerving for you. for folks in paris, that gets to be a common sight.
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ashley: well, it is interesting, neil. it has become so common that people do not even look anymore. screaming down the road with the sirens. you never know what is going on. there has to be uneasiness. neil: be well, my friend. stay safe. in new york state they have an idea where if they see something, say something. anything unusual, report to authorities. you step outside the building, almost anything you see warrants saying something. that is just me. they are taking this to the next level. working out in a modern day terror, if you will. cochair robert strang. whether this is a way to address terrorist that flip to the cracks or terrace that may be planning something bad.
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it is to take it to the high technology level. you see something. send it to authorities. >> i think that that is a great idea. anything that we can get quickly to the government, quickly to police, it will be less people that died. neil: from folks that see something unusual, what catches your attention. >> it is the inconsistency. some of the other things they may filter through. there is a lot of things that the police look at in terms of determining what is the priority. neil: we know that the communication broke down in
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france. to the degree of what happened in boston. the national intelligence officials did not get the word to local police at the scene that these guys could be dangerous. the same brothers. it did not make its way to intelligence officials here. it remains that we still have this communication problem that heralded 9/11. >> it is much better on a local level. in terms of 9/11 right now new york city and new york state. we now communicate with each other. it is better nationally since homeland security has been put in place since 9/11. >> is it really, though? >> i think that it is much better. if you look in europe even 15 years ago, it is getting better
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in terms of communication. agencies are not sharing information unaware of what one was getting from another. >> that is right. they had put the family members together in paris, a wiretap on a drug defendant, that would have been great. it is always easier after an event to go back and say they are mothers or sisters. the attacker and cousin were part of this ring. it is not as if something happened on their phone line that indicated that there would be an attack. the drug investigators, would have been able to advise the counterterrorism unit that something is in play. there was no connection. just a bunch of criminals. i think that we are communicating much better. neil: you think it would happen after what happened here?
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>> i do not think that the communication will ever be perfect. all of the intelligence, all of your street and operation. combining that intelligence information and trying to prevent an attack from taking place. that is true in new york city. true in any country around the world. neil: robert, thank you. anti-terrorism task force. talk about the thankless positions. in the meantime, a fox news alert. bernie sanders was not a big fan of this deal. now add hillary clinton to that list. she just out bernie's turning on how much this thing should crash and burn. i will tell you. ♪
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connell: we are back with a business alert on cavuto coast to coast. these sales came out earlier today. three and a half% on the month ofgh level there. inventories are low. there just is not much to choose from. the economy of proving. three of the four regions they trap we saw three declines only in the northeast. pricing, if you look at the median price of a home in the united states, it is just below $220,000. 19,600 in the month of october. that is still higher than where we were last year. the price of homes are going up.
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with these numbers out, let's take a quick look. they are all up. all of those stocks doing pretty well. neil, back to you. neil: we do want to alert you to hillary clinton weighing in. these companies are trying to rip us off. pfizer going to ireland to take advantage of a lower tax rate. she would go further to prevent such transactions. urging regulators to stopfrom ss overseas. there is not an easy way around this. that is obviously a little too easy. what do you make of this? >> typical situation. the government creates a problem, creates a crisis for it. companies need money for research. and jobs.
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you do not get jobs without investments. ours includes states as well. 40%. guess what, companies will go where they have a lower tax rate. all pfizer is doing is changing its tax rate. neil: a lot of jobs in parsippany new jersey. just a lower tax rate. you would be a fool not to take advantage of it. it is not very patriotic when they do that. it is not patriotic to invest to create jobs and opportunity. that hurts us and it hurts the rest of the world. a way of helping bring profits back from overseas. almost all of the republican candidates have proposals to deal with this problem. the democrats like to blame free markets. >> all of the candidates have a
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plan to replace 2 million or so of broad. giving them a one-time tax policy. what i understand, let's say you bring that money back. what will stop trillions more from growing abroad? they will keep doing it. >> that is why most of those plans have an advance tax rate. >> what to think of hillary when she says this kind of stuff? you know that she is trying to get the left of bernie sanders. >> there ought to be rules and regulations in place. >> just jumping up the tax code. one ray of rules. they come up with another one. >> both of those candidates say that this will rob me. you have heard the drill. >> we have had a punk recovery. this kind of a tax code. you want to revive the economy.
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you do it by simplifying the tax code. having a stable dollar. better jobs are created. we all come out ahead. providing a neat way to shift attention away from the real problem. pfizer becomes evil. losing sight of the entire thing. making it do what it does. >> drug companies, you want them to do research. a lot of unmet needs in the marketplace. i would rather have the money in their hands and hillary clinton's hands. >> thank you very, very much. we have been carson in nevada. he has tumbled in the polls. and then there is donald trump who once again is talking up the possibility that he may run a third-party category because he does not like the weight has
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neil: just in case you are waiting to see if the belgium's would use up, essentially having the city of brussels and locked down for three days, saying it will not happen, a series of imminent threats. not easing up on that. the people are highly, highly urged all in fact ordered to stay indoors. do not go out. do not shop. i understand from ashley webster that some are. by and large, much activity has been brought to a halt. that tells you a lot about the fears that are ran. in that city where they thought that something really bad was
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rounding up half a dozen terrorists. even with that, they are not satisfied here to fully and totally addressed. the belgium prime minister is saying this lockdown will keep up. it is a deal. keeping you up-to-date on a number of other developments. that is donald trump. we thought we address this. i want you to be aware of the evolution. take a listen. >> you will not make the pledge. >> i am not going to make the pledge at this time. >> i have to see what happens. i have to be treated fairly. all i want to do is a level playing field. neil: is he once again toying with something that he shun it? what is he talking?
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he in turn would promises support whoever the nominee is in the event that it is not donald trump. it seems that he is sensing a bit of betrayal. there are some gop establishment types. it consists of not only getting trump supporters to not support donald trump, but to get out of voting altogether. according to the "wall street journal." donald trump is probably starting to sense a little bit of the trail. we cannot miss -- we cannot necessarily equate that to donald trump. he is a negotiator. you realize what he is doing. trying to keep all options on the table for himself. >> and mainstream media is having a field day with all of this. the establishment of the party is coming together to do everything it possibly can do to
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torpedoed your campaign. the last person passing with a republican. these are very different. i think he had some grounds to stand on. >> i think that he probably does. i only think we are in the early stages. >> i have heard this before. scott walker dropping out of the race. to donald trump, that was set back then, if not prior. >> yes. as we get closer and closer to the primaries, i think that ultimately you will see gop establishment types beginning to fret out loud. the prospect of donald trump
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becoming a nominee. it is anybody's guess. donald trump as a negotiator. when did you world this out? he always stays on message. i will not rule anything out. in this specific instance, talking about whether or not he would take an independent, he wants them to be scared. he wants them to continue to support him and not break ranks. neil: do you think that if he did not get the nomination he would do it anyway? he is taking a pledge. he did not see a scenario where he bows out of that pledge. neil: thank you. have a great thanksgiving. >> you to kneel.
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neil: french police have discovered a explosive without a detonator. in the southern paris suburb of montréal. the latest sort of crackdown that they have. essentially in a lockdown. easing up by wednesday. planning to have schools and everything. reopening. they will remain closed. if you want to get around brussels, you will have to probably walk up until then. all public transportation. up until then, it is a lockdown. more after this. ♪
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neil: all right. there is a white house presser going on right now. a lot of the questions will talk about what the administration knew and when it knew it. did it underestimate the danger of isis. the intelligence we were getting inflating results of crackdown on isis. blake burman on a white house facing criticism on all fronts. blake? reporter: they are indeed, neil. one of the bigger critics of president obama's isis strategy actually one of his biggest allies here in washington. dianne feinstein is top democrat on senate select committee on intelligence. she continued her skepticism over the weekend about the
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administration current isis strategy, saying that the situation is not bert. feeling it is worse. feinstein was given more detailed briefing by secretary of state john kerry and feels this is a quote here, that the approach isn't sufficient to do the job. feinstein also believes the 50 special operations forces the president recently ordered to syria won't solve the problem long term either. now joining her assessment was president's former cia director and defense secretary leon panetta. he told you last week that is time to mobilize the world against the barbarism that isis presents. panetta called for increase in special operations forces as well along with number of airstrikes and intel advisors there in syria. both panetta and feinstein voiced their concerns on differing sunday morning talk shows. >> i'm concerned that we don't have the time and we don't have years.
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we need to be aggressive now. >> i think we've got to be much more aggressive and much more unified in the effort to take on isis. reporter: now, neil, the u.s. military did announce they led another fresh round of airstrikes. they said 238 oil trucks were bombed by u.s. fighter jets. back to you. neil: blake burman, thank you. the congressman worried about all the syrian refugees and how we let them into the country he voted for a measure to toughen things up. he was one of 47 congressman to do so. he joins us now. jim heinz from the fine state of connecticut. congressman, good to have you,. >> hi, neil. neil: do you know where this stands in the senate? harry reid says he will not take it up. but i'm told by home know how the place works that could be enough to stymie this whole thing, if that were the case how do you feel about that. >> unclear where it is going.
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i heard from other senators where this is going. we need to be carefully look at what this bill is. there is lot of emotion and misinformation about it. there are two things we need to doing neil, to make sure our security apparatus is strong and accountable and things they have done very well since 9/11 to the best of their ability. paris tells us this, russian airliner tells us. at the same time we should not, must not drift away from our values being welcoming to refugees. the fact that economic value comes out of tourism. our civil liberties about. in my opinion, obviously has been subject of much debate. this is a bill which just says that the security services will sign, certify, their processes which are very, very good. i think we ought to look at that. look, if that causes fbi and state don't and intelligence apparatus to be a little more focused that is actually not a bad outcome.
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neil: it is a bad idea at least in terms of the president, you know, congressman, said he would veto this, maybe with 47 democrats like yourself urging that he reconsider that, presumably, where is this going? >> well you know, i think, i had lengthy conversations with the administration, with jeh johnson and with a site of others and their argument is -- neil: when did you have the conversations. >> immediately prior to the vote. neil: were they trying to twist your arm? >> yeah, they were. they were making the argument the system isn't broken. by the way they're right about that the system actually works well. it is extensive two-year process where refugees are vetted. this is one of moments terrorists surprise us by bringing on inconceivable. asking security services to go from 100% to 110% isn't a bad idea. this is where i sort of disagreed with the white house. they said this would be massively obtrusive process and i didn't see that the president and administration certifies
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thing all the time. a lot of us believe the process is that good, we really believe it is good, it shouldn't be a problem to have agencies sign on dotted line saying we certify our process. neil: congressman, thank you very much. hope you have a safe thanksgiving. >> thank you, neil. neil: catherine herridge has been looking at white house and isis threat and whether it heeded multiple warnings about that threat. right now catherine has some pretty interesting revelations. what can you tell us? reporter: thank you, neil. a year before isis swept through iraq a former pentagon firms said there were multiple assessments and what are called specialty products from the defense intelligence agency, dia as well as cia warning of quote, terror group's rapid rise in iraq and north africa. some. intelligence we're told was included in the president's daily brief, pdb, which mr. obama takes on it pad rather than in person briefing. pdb is the intelligence community most authoritative assessment.
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despite the warnings official part of the white house discussions that the administration quote, kept kicking the can down the road of the investigation whether intelligence was manipulated has expanded. fox news is told that the pressure on analysts at central command which has responsibility for iraq included at least two emails now in the possession of the defense department inspector general, suggesting that the analysts cut it out and toe the line of the former pentagon official said there was apparently an attempt to also destroy the communications. on sunday the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee said there is a disconnect between what lawmakers have seen first-hand and what the white house said about isis and progress of the u.s.-led coalition. >> what we hear and see on the ground, talking to folks that are doing the work and see finished intelligence product, i think more alarming what we hear the president and his senior officials saying to the public, it just doesn't jibe with what
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they're saying in public and what we see on the ground. reporter: those officials who are familiar with the assessments and reviewed them, neil, tell fox news that there is no way you could see those assessments and not determine isis was gaining strength in iraq and syria and also these affiliates that we see in libya and the sinai which recently claimed to have brought down that russian jet. neil. neil: i guess the question is always going to be, catherine, whether ignorance of changes and developments or deliberate distortion? reporter: we don't foe what the inspector general's report is going to find but if, i could make a comparison with some other reporting we've done here at fox news on the decision to try and launch a rescue attempt for the hostages that were being held by isis, you'll recall that we reported there was about a six-week delay between very detailed intelligence and the decision by the white house to go and to launch that rescue attempt. what we were told at that time is that the white house kept waiting for the intelligence to
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build up further. so again this kind of kicking the can down the road idea. the problem in both of these situations is that time is not on side and your decision to do nothing ultimately becomes your strategy, neil. neil: catherine herridge in washington. thank you very, very much. reporter: you're welcome. neil: you know the push on part of a lot of college kids, we interviewed a few of them on the show, want their tuition paid for and college debts paid for. should that be the government's job. or should if you really like this sort of thing look to your boss to provide that? your ship has come in. if you're interested in sort of coverage, chrysler has a deal for you, or does it? after this. with up to 27% more brush movements versus oral b. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. innovation and you. philips sonicare save when you buy the most loved rechargeable toothbrush brand in america.
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>> i'm connell mcshane. chipolte was big topic of discussion. we look back at the stock price which has dropped as you might think it would. down in the neighborhood of 16% since news of e.coli was first associated with the company even though it is bouncing back. the big drop came on friday when we learned cases spread to six states. you see at end of the chart. at first issue was thought to be contained in pacific northwest an minnesota. apparently that is not the case. the stock goes down. a little bit of a bounce-back today. it has lost about 1/3 of its
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value over the past year has chipolte. analysts are fairly optimistic. they say it will be a lot higher this time next year than it is right now. so they are not budging much on the stock. there is more "cavuto: coast to coast" coming up. broader market not doing much.
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got the hat trick. first hillary clinton and bernie
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sanders. white house is not impressed with planned merger with allergan and pfizer to where ireland where taxes are much lower. josh earnest among other things saying this will be addressed. that is what you get. this is josh earnest, when companies pay for members of congress. i don't know where to go with that. if the inference here is that you're paying off members of congress to leave the united states, and not succeeding at urging members of congress to provide a lower tax code so that you don't leave the united states, well, i'm just getting caught up in it. anyway, hat trick complete. three big democrats, all against this huge pairing of pharmaceutical giants that will be housed, they hope in ireland but not if these guys have anything to say about it. meanwhile we told you about efforts and talked to number of those leading the charge to provide free tuition across the
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board. 1% will pay for it. you heard that argument. if that doesn't seem doable how about companies offering that and leaving them to pay for it? fiat chrysler is offering tuition to family and their employees to stem turnover. she says it is better than when private companies do that than uncle sam. nomiki, you don't like this, why not? >> i commend companies stepping up and educating citizenry is bedrock of our society. great for pr and great partnership with these educational institutions but it will not fix the problem. when you have 75 million millenials, 30% which want to sell an organ to pay off student loins. we have a student loan program, when $1.1 trillion in student loan debt. that is not going to be solved with companies, especially companies with limitations on these offers. some of them actually decreased the offer. for instance, starbucks offer,
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they got a lot of attention when they offered free tuition through asu online no -- neil: understood. kathy, you don't quite agree. explain. >> no, certainly private solution while i might tweak this one somewhat, private solution is certainly better than public solution. for years the government, including obama and president clinton promise free things. every time we do that or they do that they overpromise and underdeliver. certainly never worked in the past. private sector offers solutions like they have done with 401(k)s and health care in order to help people save and spend in right ways. i absolutely agree with nomiki this is enormous problem for enormous population. 1/3 of amount of student debt is 1/3 of u.s. government's budget and that is enormous. has to be addressed with the right solution. private solution is certainly ideal. >> when you have millenials graduating college with average $40,000 in student loan debt, they can't take the money.
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neil: who pays for it. who pays for it. >> hang on a second, neil. we had new deal. we've done this before. we invested in our economy. we invested in our people. when you're that much in debt out of school you can't invest in the economy. neil: who pays for it then? >> they go on government assistance. neil: okay. i'm just asking you who pays for this. >> the government. neil: the government? >> then -- neil: who is the government? the government is ultimately us. >> i'm not saying that. >> are you okay with your taxes going up to pay for it? >> richest of the deserve to pay more taxes. neil: wait, wait. and cathy lynn i go to you. nomiki you're perfectly fine paying more taxes or saddle the rich with it? >> i think personally will pay into program if i have the available income. but think we should -- neil: if you have the available income. cat lynn lynn, that is the issue a lot of americans are taxed to death. cathy lynn. >> help people work more.
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average millenial has average job tenure of 18 months. not that long. this is really smart program, idea for fiat chrysler to attract and retain better talent and help millenials themselves. one in four millenials is parent. we have to help people help themselves and do it. the government has never been able to address this problem over decades. neil: we don't do it. nomi, you say getting college degree birthright, like homeownership was considered a birthright. free medical care is considered a birthright. no one stepped back, that's fine we make all the birthrights. someone has to pick up the tab. nomi i noticed you swinging a little bit because it would be you. >> of course. rich of the rich. neil: why no not. why not. incredible. [both talking at once] neil: i thought this whole chipolte thing was like, grossing me out. this is beyond the pale. ladies, seriously, thank you very much. >> thank you, neil.
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kent, look who we have back from busy travels with whole new season of "strange inheritance," jamie colby. everyone says it will be a great shopping season. >> already is. all my shop something done but i have a disappointing message for store owners starting so early, it is all online kids. i'm on the road 210 days this year. so i have to do it that way. but it makes sense, neil. you can often save tax. they're all offering free shipping and free returns. binge, bang, boom press of a button it is done. does that make me a bad person? >> great consumer. neil: all the traditional box guys have online, walmart. >> yeah. neil: is it helping, hurting, what? >> i think they need to do it. when one guy does it, as jamie said, target has even its door-buster deals online. walmart is moving door-buster deals on line. neil: they still have the moment on black friday. the clock goes -- >> combat operation.
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neil: women and children. >> you want to know why they're doing that? they have realized, researchers realize you have to be first in the cart consumer to get them to spend more money. earlier deal, more likely you are to buy and stick with that retailer if you have a good experience. neil: how can any of these poor people, i don't know if we show that again, guys, in that crush of humanity, how could anyone be having a good time. >> true. like preparing for small military battle. the thing is, when you look at dollar pricing deals, amazon is, some surveys, beating, amazon is beating walmart when it comes to electronics. we know electronics -- neil: is that right? >> yeah. when you see sales on other items, they want you in the store to get to the electronics section. where do you get the cheapest tvs. neil: you know, when you're on the road -- >> can't fool me, neil. they place things strategically. those people waiting online, i need ad blender last year. neil: who doesn't. >> 5:00 a.m. outside of that downtown 34th street
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department store, went to their website and paid same price as people who were waiting outside. why are they waiting outside? they end up buying more than they need. neil: can you do that online? >> no, sir. neil: really? >> i got neil tie. mom new cookware. >> a tie. neil: i always like i like hickory farms gift that keeps giving. >> omaha steaks. neil: whatever. >> anything from apple. >> anything from apple. do you think -- as a young shopper yourself, i can't see you storming the gates of black friday just before the store opens? >> no thank you. definitely not. i'm not really into the midnight, open at thanksgiving. if you look over time -- neil: maybe you're cheap. >> shopping online with jamie. that is the secret here. >> did you buy that red sweater i was trying to get my hands on, that ugly christmas sweater. you were the one. only one left. neil: someone regifting. what do you think of the busyness of this christmas
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shopping? >> i think fine. they have the dire outlooks. i think it is nonsense. neil: they always do. >> jo ling and jamie know this, tj maxx and marshall's, wow, their sales are really growing dramatically. neil: do you know men don't seek out sales. >> why is that? neil: i don't know. i think the fatigue and annoyance factor. >> shop twice a year. get it done. neil: we have things to do. i'm just saying. "strange inheritance" is happening now. tonight, back on, i'm not saying some of these episodes, there are some decent is? there, but some scare me for jamie's safety. >> back-to-back brand new ones. i learned a lot. >> terrific. neil: i ticked off all your advertisers. i'm just kidding. really great. more after this. [vet] two yearly physicals down.
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neil: just getting word that
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planned parenthood plans to sue texas over blocked medicaid dollars. no which we fund state level on medicaid money planned parenthood. saying no you aren't. we'll see you if you even try. here we go again, trish regan taking over. trish: neil, breaking this hour, new intel of quote imminent threat in brussels as city remains on lockdown third straight day. schools, shopping senters closed. authorities warning people to stay indoors. gel began police conducting series of raids as they try to hunt down the fugitive. the ateth suspected terrorist. authorities are questioning them as we speak. in a southern suburb of paris, french officials located explosive belt without a detonator. and hazmat suits. they are missing from hospital, amid reports that isis is trying to gain access

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