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christmas tree. >> bye, everybody. good morning. the fate of syrian refugees in the united states awaiting more action by congress. hi, everyone. i'm maria bartiromo. welcome to "sunday morning futures" on this thanksgiving weekend. what will come of the bill in the senate right now? now that got a veto proof majority in the house. new york congressman peter king will join us momentarily. plus, france president hollande meeting with presidents obama and putin looking to ramp up support for the fight against isis. prominent author and columnist peggy noonan on which president is showing the most leadership following the attacks in paris. they're off, shoppers flooding stores, cyberspace for holiday gifts.
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the ceo of toys "r" us on the hottest toys of the season on this busy weekend. we're looking ahead this morning on "sunday morning futures." americans are being urged to be vigilant as they travel this holiday weekend. after the state department issued a worldwide travel alert amid concerns terrorist groups including?÷hisis continue to pl attacks in multiple regions of the world. meanwhile, congress will reconvene tomo!íqbñ morning, where the senate may take up a bill passed by the house already, essentially barring ìáhp &hc% now. new york congressman peter king is on the homeland security committee and is the chairman of the subcommittee on terrorism and intelligence. good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, maria, thank you very much. >> what are you expecting out of this bill now in the senate? in the house. what next? >> well, it was approved in the
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house, veto proof majority. we had 37 democrats vote with us. i would hope harry reid will allow this to come to a vote in it. there is a role for the filibuster. when it comes to national security and issue like this which means so much to the american people, i think harry reid and the democrats owe it to the congress to have a full debate on this and a vote. don't try to block it. don't try to bury it. reid threatened to do whatever he can to block it, probably by using the filibuster. i would say that's a mistake for national security and also a mistake for our faith in democracy. >> what do you say to those people out there who say, look, america is a country of immigrants. we're all immigrants from our an afters who made the trek to america, from all parts of the world. we want to have a heart, open the u.s. to people whonú need u most and now we're shutting the doors to these people who needs it most, even though we know
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that isis has begun to infiltrate the flow of refugees. >> yeah, well, first, you we are a nation of immigrations. we appreciate that coming from the ethnic ancestry andn/÷- hav dealt with immigrant aunts, uncles, grandparents. we understand the beauty of immigration. i, in fact, going back to 1993, i visited muslim refugee camps in the balkans. i support the idea of refugees coming to this country, except in this situation with syrian refugees, the fbi and others in the law enforcement and counterterrorism have told us they cannot adequately vet the syrian refugees coming in because there are no databases, áhr' syria, we have no intelligence on the ground, so let us know who is who. we know that isis does intend to smuggle or sneak in terrorists with the refugees. so this is a risk -- my main job, my oath is to protect the american people. and right now we are not in a position where we can take that
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risk of allowing terrorists to come into the country, even if 99% of 10,000 refugees are honest, law abiding people, that means 100 of them are potential terrorists. that is too big a risk to take. >> we know that a syrian passport was found in paris, apparently belonging to one of the attackers there. i want to ask you about vetting and the vetting process, congressman. stay with us. a lot to talk about with you this morning. first, from the paris attacks to the boston marathon bombings, understanding family jihad, why it is becoming more common and how we stop it. fox news senior correspondent eric shawn on that angle. >> good morning, maria. good morning, everyone. it will take more than bombing raqqah to defeat isis. experts say that most likely target we also have to target the ideology fueling radical islamic terrorism and break the ties, the ties that in some cases include close family relations between the
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the attacks have had one common connection. they're committed by blood relatives, brothers united in family and jihad. in paris, authorities say the commit that carnage. the third brother said the siblings became radicalized on the internet. ten months earlier, the brazen attack on charlie hebdo carried out by brothers, citizens born in paris. in boston, the marathon bombings committed by the tsarnaev brothers, dzhokhar now sits on death row. >> one brother grooms the younger brother, one cousin reaches out to the other cousin, one relative reaches out to the next relative who else are you going to hear or listen to or go with or travel with or study with. >> even the suspected mastermind of!e 9/11, khalid sheikh mohamm himself is related to another
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terrorist, the uncle of ramsey yousef. y yousef convicted in 1993. he was part of a terror cell that also included cousins. >> one can intimidate the other or one can be an example for the other, you want the respect of one, you want the admiration of the other, one is following the lead and before you know it, they're both blowing themselves up and taking a lot of others with them. >> in canada, twin brothers nicknamed the terror twins face charges. it seems breaking the bonds of brotherhood could be one of the toughest challenges we face in the fight against terrorism. maria? >> eric, thank you very much. eric shawn with the latest there. we're back now with congressman peter king. before i get into the vetting process, which i think all of our viewers really want to hear your take on, let me get your take on how we track these terrorists. because the fact is is the telecom companies have been encrypting information or the
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technology companies and the technology has gotten ahead of law enforcement. how much tougher has it become to actually track what the terrorists are doing? >> this has made it extremely difficult, whether it is fbi director jim comey or nypd commissioner bill bratton. they have been saying for several months now how difficult it is to track terrorists, to track criminals because they can which makes -- even if there is a court order, there is no way the fbi or local police or any law enforcement agency can can penetrate that encryption and the companies which provide the encrypted apps, they say when they sell the encryption to a customer, they lose the right. the company itself loses the ability to cooperate with the police, that they can can't break the encryption. if we have to get legislation to say it is wrong to sell this, illegal todk sell this hype, encryption app, we have to do
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it. right now, i mean, i'm just thinking of any of these i.t. officials, children were kidnapped and held hostage, we couldn't penetrate the encryption, i think, you know, their mood would change quite a bit. this is just wrong, dangerous, and it gives the bad guys, the terrorists, the murderers a much bigger hand. >> so there is this conflict between national security and people's privacy basically. let's talk about vetting. why has it become so difficult to vet refugees trying to get into this country? >> it is primarily syria. most other countries we can do but in syria, there are no databases, the government has no records, we have no access to them, we have no intelligence on the ground. syria is basically one dark hole as far as we're concerned. a person coming through from syria, who is being vetted, and if they're being questioned, there is nothing to vet them against. they could have a phony name. they could have a phony date of birth, phony hometown, they could be lying about any type of
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terrorist connections they have. and we have no way of knowing who they are unless now somehow they come up on the radar screen this is unlikely to happen. this is brought to our attention. this is not something congress is looking for. this was brought to our attention by the director of the fbi, by officials actually involved in the vetting saying that they did not have confidence that the vetting was working. >> by the way, you know, just last week after the paris attacks, france bombed certain areas within syria that were known to be isis headquarters, whether it be recruitment centers, or other centers that isis was in charge of. if we knew where exactly those places were, we knew isis had recruitment centers, why didn't we bomb them before that, congressman? why did we have to wait for another attack in paris which killed more than 100 people to actually bomb those specific targets that we knew existed?
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>> maria, the best answer i've gotten on that and it is not a good answer is that because of the rules of engagement, obama administration laid down, those targets were off limits to our military because we're afraid of any type of collateral damage. in war, the goal is to minimize collateral damage, but there is always the risk of collateral damage. and if it involves unfortunately several civilians being killed in an attack, that will save hundreds if not thousands of people later on. we are very, very strict rules of engagement that this president has laid down different from any other war, and that's why i believe those targets are still standing and why the french took them out really in the first day. >> wow, so the strategy is such that we won't bomb if, in fact, we see there are civilians because these are the rules of engagement as per president obama then? >> yes. in fact, even the fuel trucks, they were not attacked all this time because they were being driven by civilian drivers. they didn't want to kill the civilian driver even though that
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fuel was being used to basically literally fuel isis and sold on the black market to fund and supply isis so it could carry out murderous attacks. these are rules of engagement that never apply in any other war. >> we know this is how isis is making its money by selling oil on the black market. good to have you on the program. thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you, maria, as always. >> we will see you soon. congressman peter king. french president hollande called the isis threat an emergency that requires urgent action. (si to a columnist and author peggy noonan next. follow us on twitter.
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welcome back. showers after the attacks in paris, president obama promised to be, quote, redouble u.s. efforts in fighting isis.
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president of france, francois hollande, visited the white house this week hoping to unite in those efforts to fight the terrorists. hollande then travelled to moscow for a similar meeting with president putin. while the world looks to america for leadership, a new fox poll shows president obama's approval ratings plunging to 40%, that is a near record low of 40%. joining me now, the author of the new book the time of our lives, peggy noonan is with us today. the wall street journal columnist and former speechwriter for president ronald reagan. good to see you. >> good to see you. thank you for having me. >> congratulations on the book. there is so much in that book to talk about. i want to weave what you've learned throughout your years to what we're seeing today. let me begin on the most recent issues that is this russian jet was shot down by turkey because turkey says it was in its air space. what is your sense of how things have escalated. things seem a lot more dangerous than they ever have. >> yes, and they seem dangerous
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in a day by day way. not playing out over weeks and months. it is every morning, a different headline. this, the action, the -- or apparent action of turkey brings in nato implications with regard to russia. so now and then you see a thing that is a mess and almost unsolvable and then gets a little worse. that's what i think just happened. >> and you wrote last weekend, this, what is going on in paris, and the new tension in the air and saying, this is not going away. we cannot negotiate them away from this at some negotiating table. isis is coming. >> yeah. they are here. they have been by the administration much too ignored as to their import, their strength, their ability to cause trouble. paris showed in some newer way -- in some new way with paris they arrived to the extent that people said, okay, the only
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question now is how do we stop them. we are no longer debating, must they be stopped. >> president obama seems to be trying to get a little tougher because that first response when he was overseaed, people were really disappointed by in terms of not understanding what american people were feeling. you seem to capture the zeitgeist of america in your writings. how do you think the country is feeling right now? >> the country, i think, is perturbed looking at the president, trying to figure out, you know, there is great mystique around the american presidency, but on great issues there should not be mystery around american presidents. it has been and certainly in the days after paris it appeared you just couldn't look at the president and figure out exactly how he thinks about isis, exactly what he thinks it is, exactly what we should do, so there seemed almost a leadership gap, not that he was a presence in this debate, but an absence from the debate and it is
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confusing for americans for all of us and deeply frustrating when we can't look to the top guy and figure out, okay, he's got his brain wrapped around it, we're going to do a, b and c, let's discuss whether that's a good course. you don't get the sense he has his brain wrapped around it. he since then tried to do a lot of cleanup work. but bad impression was made. >> you spent so much time with ronald reagan. today he is known as one of the best presidents in terms of certainly leadership and his. policies. what would ronald reagan do at this moment in your view ? >> well, i can never answer that question because he was very much a man of a specific time and place, dealing with specific issuek71ñe issues of his age, expansionist communism. but i cannot believe that his thoughts and his feelings about this challenge would be essentially mysterious and confusing to the american
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people. reagan had a way of no matter his most recent strategy was, say about the soviets, you know, talk to gorbachev, work this out, put up your hand and say don't do that, whatever it was, you knew exactly how he felt about the soviet union, exactly how he felt about communism. he was never afraid to name it. he actually was not afraid to call it an evil empire. so he had a lovely bracing clarity that was based on the ability to accurately read the situation. one does not sense that with the current president on these issues. on domestic issues you get a sense of where his heart is, when a newtown happens or charleston, but isis, the middle east, that's an area of confusion and confusion only begets confusion. >> what is your take on hillary clinton? secretary clinton last week came out with her own isis plan. and a lot of people looked tat wondering if it was a continuation of president
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obama's plan or different. >> i thought it was simply inevitably andrñ yet somehow dishearteningly a merely political document. this was something cooked up by hillary and her people, thinking, okay, what the president is doing, people don't seem to like. but what -- if we did this, others wouldn't like it. let gae's get as far from him a possible in certain specifics but stay with him on the essentials. that's how i read it, which is not good enough when you're running for president. people running for president should say, this is how i see it. and this is what i think needs to be done, whether or not that is politically good for them. if it is not politically good for them, fine, then the power of persuasion, and i can make an argument, comes in, you can win an argument when you're thinking straight. >> peggy, the power of perspective is what we are grateful to you for. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> peggy noonan. the book is "the time of our
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liv lives." we'll see you soon, peggy. up next, the holiday shopping rush under way. the ceo of toys "r" us will be with me. with me. the hottest
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traffic we experience, how consumers are reacting to both our regular price as well as promotional products. it is a critical time. >> you're ramping up going into obviously thanksgiving, christmas, the whole month of december. tell us about the sales and how you're ramping things up. >> well, part of the challenge we have is to make sure we got robust inventories all the way through this busy time. we get such volume compressed into a short period of time. we'll flow merchandise to our stores and build sales up to christmas eve. >> this is particularly important this weekend because we had an economy that is very much slow, two steps forward, one step back when you look at the economic data. is that a fair statement? >> it is. the toy category is unique. consumers behave differently as it relates to toys for families during this time of the year. those indicators of other categories are interesting, but it will be really interesting for us to see how the consumer reacts tass reladçisç s as it r
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toys. >> this is the "star wars." tell me about this product here, because "star wars" is so hot. i think all the products from the film will be -- >> this will be a really hot product. all of the "star wars" themes will be hot products because we're building towards the december 18th release of the movie. you'll see more and more promotion coming out of disney and lucas films and all of us in the business of promoting -- >> this lights up? >> this is a lightsaber, it lights up. it provides a wonderful opportunity for brothers andkç sisters to go at one another. and it makes sounds, makes noises, lights up, does interesting things. >> this guy is -- that's a hot seller. >> this guy is going to be terrific. he's phenomenal. he'll go backwards, go forwards, spin around, rotate back and forth, interact with you with voice recognition. beam a light beam up on the wall, a picture of princess leia, all kinds of sounds and opportunities for young people to just enjoy tooling this thing
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around the house. >> what is the price of this one? >> this one sells for $159.99. it is a little robot. >> wow. because of the sensors all over it. >> sensors all over and capable of doing so many things. >> this is a toys "r" us exclusive, journey girl. >> journey girl, a line we have that is very, very successful. we have a whole line of dolls. every holiday season we roll out a new doll. this is an italian themed doll that we're going to do a good job with. it is a beautiful doll. and it retails for $49.99. >> dolls never go out of style. >> dolls are always -- >> little girls want dolls. what about this here? this is computer and technology in here too, right? >> yes. this guy is capable of helping a young child learn how to learn their abcs, learn how to count. it is interactive. he'll dance, he'll perform. >> his cool. >> so anywhere from nine months to four or five years this is a
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fun, easy toy. it is a fisher-price product and it is doing a great job. i think it will be one of the hottest items of the holiday season. >> press it once and he keeps going. >> he keeps going. >> and this guy here, i like it, he's one of my favorites. >> yes. smart toy bear and we have a smart toy monkey. both of these are programmable toys. they got a scanner and a camera, which allows them to actually be programmed to interact with different things flashed in front of them by the child, so the child can learn how to brush their teeth, learn when it is time for a snack, learn how to dance. and this toy will actually teach them and the parent can have some control over the messaging because they can program it through their app. >> that's amazing. are you seeing increasing numbers of toys that are robust toys, toys with sensors in them and cameras and all this stuff? >> you bet. the staples are out there. what the young people of today want is more interactivity,
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voice activation, voice recognition. >> how do you change the business, depending on what you see this weekend? do you have to -- if it is not a great weekend, if it doesn't meet expectations, what does that mean for you or budget plans in 2016 and the opposite as well, if it is a great weekend. >> the benefit for us being a big player in the online business, we have a $1.2 billion online business, dynamic pricing, dynamic promotions are available to us. so you, with a flip of a switch, can change promotions, blast out new opportunities, and values to consumers and change prices. so you'll see a lot of that activity ongoing over the next few weeks. >> in other words, if you see a weekend where it is below expectations, you can expect a sale to ramp up even more. >> you could. >> discounting will go crazy into the holidays. >> but what happens, there is always hot toys that everybody wants. >> they'll pay up for that. >> they tend to be in limited supply. those will be the ones where
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supply is more important than price. and so that's all part of the dynamic management of the toy business during this time of year. >> makes a lot of sense. hottest toy now? >> hottest toy now would be this guy right here. but we're really early in the cycle. we'll see what happens as we get further into it. >> interesting stuff.y happy thanksgiving. happy early holiday to you. thanksgiving for joining us. >> you bet, maria. >> dave brandon. we're hearing a lot of policy talk on the campaign trail on combatting terrorism and keeping our country safe. which candidate strategy is actually resonating most to voters? our panel will begin right there as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ how else do you think he gets around so fast?
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i'm eric shawn. back to "sunday morning futures" and maria. welcome back. terrorism, national security, becoming top concerns among registered voters in the wake of the horrific terrorist attacks across the globe. in particular, paris. and gop contenders on the campaign trail are making it priority number one. honing in on national security issues, so who is making the strongest case to keep the u.s. safe and to defeat isis. ed rollins, former principle white house adviser to president reagan, strategist and fox news political analyst. hank shankoff worked on the clinton/gore campaign. and doug high, former rnc communications director and former deputy chief of staff of
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communications for eric cantor. good to see you. thank you for joining us. as soon as the attacks happened in paris, you saw an increase in concern and talk about national security. and interesting to note that ted cruz started rising in the polls. do you think that's the reason? >> i think ted cruz is articulate, shows great strength. i think trump also showed great strength and i think the contrast the president is perceived as weak and to a certain extent, those who want to be tough on this issue will do well for the short term. >> reuters poll showedóceh vote took to address this and said the top 2016 choices in terms of who is their choice to address this is secretary clinton at 20% support. >> look, she -- followed by trump. >> before she became the secretary of state, she was much more to the center and the right on defense related issues. she is benefitting from the climb the president is having
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and within their own party and makes her very formidable. >> she ran away from the iraq war. that's one of the first things she did and did very recently so -- >> let's go back to what she'll use in the campaign and what history will show. >> she was against the iraq war or was for theq÷ iraq war? >> she voted for the war and in discussions she said the iraq war may not have been the smartest thing to -- >> she said it was the worst vote she ever made. >> said it was the worst vote she ever made. what do you think? >> it is interesting to see a poll that says hillary clinton is trustworthy on anything. what we have seen from republicans is two different sets here. we have seen some specifics laid out from ted cruz, from jeb bush, marco rubio, talking about ground troops, talking about no fly zones and tough talk that gets a lot of response and no surprise that it comes from trump and even from ben carson. we don't see much specifics from them. that's why maybe they're doing well in the polls. but as we go closer and closer to iowa, they have to lay out
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some specifics. >> what kind of specifics do you think people want to hear about? this whole idea of troops on the ground, versus no troops on the ground is i think the divider for people. >> it is a divider. republicans have been pretty much in sync with most of the people in the defense department. we felt we pulled out of the wars too soon, left 10,000 troops there, we basically wouldn't have had all the problems we're having today in afghanistan and elsewhere. i think that that's going to be the line, we need to put the president in his press conference last week, basically made it clear there are no more troops going there and we'll do -- we'll hold hands and don't be afraid, we'll take care of you here if they come here. i don't think that's enough. i think foreign affairs will be a significant issue long-term in this campaign. >> there are so many holes in the president's strategy, from whether or not ground troops are needed to!k the fact that these air strikes are not hitting their target, hank. is it -- does it surprise you that so many people are criticizing the president's foreign policy and his strategy to defeat isis?
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>> not surprising at all. not a good strategy. whether the person occupying the oval office is a republican or a democrat, the proper move today would probably be to much more broad brushed, broad strokes, have meetings, talk about conferences, getting people together, creating some kind of an alliance with all of our people in one place. we recently had a soviet airplane taken down by turks part of the -- part of nato. what is his plan? getting everybody in one place and creating an alliance to fight isis and to begin talking about that would be smart. >> why is he not -- >> he doesn't have to lead the alliance anymore. he's lost his leadership position. that's significant. u.s. president always been the leader of putting these coalitions together. >> that's what i'm saying. he's lost that position, it is time to try to reassert american strength. >> why is he doing this, doug? why is he so adamant about even the refugee issue, without even taking five minutes to look at it. he said, we're not changing our strategy. we already have the strictest vetting process. we just heard from peter king
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who said we can't vet them. >> there has been an illusionist and arrogance to this foreign policy. all over the place. i've been in meetings with leaders from the middle east where they say not this strategy is good or strategy is bad, where is america, we need american leadership now. that's why you're seeing hillary clinton, president obama's former secretary of state, distance herself, from obama foreign policy. it is a smart move for her to do. >> can she do that? she was the steward of foreign policy. >> she can. because obama has absolutely made that possible by creating this great void and division and she will just jump into it. >> let's check in with howie kurtz, gitting ready for his own show. good morning to you. >> good morning, maria. this is the week that some media outlets started savaging donald trump after a couple of misstatements and missteps. we'll look at why he seems impervious to these kinds of journalistic assaults. my sit down with chris christie on whether the media's coverage
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of the syrian refugee debate has been fair and whether the coverage of his own campaign has been fair. >> all right, we'll see you in 20 minutes, we'll be there, thank you. top republican donors meanwhile doling out major cash to stop donald trump. why are so many in the gop uniting to derail donald trump's campaign. the panel on that when we look ahead next on "sunday morning futures." jeb bush: here's the truth you will not hear from our president: we are at war with radical islamic terrorism. it is the struggle that will determine the fate of the free world. the united states should not delay in leading a global coalition to take out isis with overwhelming force. their aim is our total destruction. we can't withdraw from this threat or negotiate with it. we have but one choice: to defeat it. vo: right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. the markets change, at t. rowe price, our disciplined investment approach remains. we ask questions here.
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welcome back. a new ad in iowa and new hampshire going after donald trump now, using trump's own words to portray him as less than presidential. but the source of the ad, not a democrat, but a super pac supporting ohio governor john kasich. all part of a new effort from some republican donors to go after donald trump and keep the party's presidential front-runner from winning the nomination. we're with our panel today. ed rollins, doug high and hank
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shankoff. why do you think so many in the gop want donald out, even though he's at the top of the polls? >> his message scares a lot of republicans who want to get re-elected in the house and the senate. as president obama said, remarks on refugees, it really helps isil's cause and helps barack obama's cause, hillary clinton's cause, to castigate republicans as being racist, insensitive to minorities. as we have seen trump get a lot of attention and not get scrutiny, it is not surprising that he's been in -- leading the polls for so long that finally somebody comes in and provides him with real scrutiny and blunt force trauma fashion. >> i think that's good analysis. the whole refugee issue divided a lot of people. refugees coming into the country properly? >> do you think mars and saturn will collide next week? there is no computer, there is no database, we don't know who these people are, ask the french if they're able to determine who the people are that -- >> the answer is no? >> it is not possible. >> is the strategy let's put a
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let anybody in right now? is that the right strategy? >> the strategy is probably for -- talking about the politics of it? for the republicans, bad to be way up front banging that message through. has to be more calculated, calmer rhetoric and that's probably why donald trump is being attacked so viciously. the rhetoric is too hot, it makes republicans look like racists. >> this is where paul ryan has been critically important for republicans right now given a measured reasoned response, talking about america's compassion, while also saying we need to sit back and take a pause at this, not the rhetoric we have seen from trump or carson, it is like more than 40 democrats joined him in his vote the week before half. >> that's true . >> what is wrong with a bill that says basically the cia director, the homeland security director, and the fbi director have to basically sign off on the policies here. i think that's very reasonable. those are the people with the responsibility when they get here, going back to the trump attacking trump is a very foolish strategy. everybody who is voting for
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trump knows all the negatives on him. iowa doesn't like negative commercials. new hampshire less so. and at the end of the day, this is just going to be his argument is establishment doesn't want any, i'm against the establishment, i'm from you. that's a sound message. i think that will have more of an impact. >> as a result, he said, look, he suggested he make do. >> that would be the death nell for the republican party. >> because that would divide the party and the election goes to hillary. >> all you need to do is take five, six points, a very, very close election, three or four points maximum, bernie sanders or trump taking three or four points away from the main candidate basically will tip the balance the other way. >> i think people will be upset with trump if he goes against his word. didn't he sign something that says, i'm not going to do an independent run. >> the danger he faces now is in new hampshire you have to run as a republican. you can't run as an independent. any dialogue about him running as an independent, the secretary of state can say, thank you very
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much, but you're an independent, can't run as an independent, have to run as one of the parties, democrat or republican. >> hank, how do you see it? >> trump is very important because for the democrats, they want him to stay there as long as he)ñ)!p can, he's divisive, rhetoric is too hot, and it is -- creates all kinds of problems for the republicans. and they like him to stay there. the republicans want him gone. why? calm the thing down. party elders want to have some control over this as they always do. >> who is emerging as the leader away from trump? >> right now, we have seen an iowa polling that suggests ted iowa polling that sugges s ted which shouldn't be surprising. as carson voters have gone away, they largely have gone to cruz. certainly would be possible with trump as well, if he were to falter. that's one of the things about iowa. you can make a lot of headlines, but you vu to organize on the ground, get people to show up and stay at the caucus sites. >> only ones that have a chance at this point of winning iowa would be carson, carson is falling like a rock, trump can win it, cruz has best organization on the ground and one of the best operatives.
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and rubio, really three positions you come out of there. if you want to win the first three, keep moving on andñ&tz well. the big day is the march 1st with over 500 delegates picked on march 1st. >> what are the catalysts for the democrats now? >> keep doing -- hillary clinton has to know what she's doing now, move away from obama's foreign policy. it is hard to see anybody else in it. she's the one to watch. she can stand by to some extent and watch the republicans kill each other, which is what they're probably going to do. >> that's what she's hoping theo do. >> that's what she hopes they do and pray s every night that donald trump continues to do what he's doing. >> over 60% of the country doesn't think she's honest including a vast majority. >> it all depends who the republicans nominate whether she's the president or not. nothing do with her. they nominate someone who is crazy, she's going to win,
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welcome back. the federal reserves open market committee saying it's ready to raise interest rates next month. the meeting is on december 16. we're back with our panel. before we get into the federal reserve, it is a big week next week. let's go through some of the events. the highway bill is one. >> the highway bill is still not properly funded. you have a temporary fix on that. a lot of the appropriations stuff is there. obviously there's a lot of discussion with the big merger between pfizer and the irish
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company. so pli sense is there will be a lot the rhetoric, short time frame. >> and the bill on the syrian refugees. >> right. what's your take on all of these things, doug? >> the house appropriations committee staff has been working all weekend to make sure we kind of forget we have a lot coming up. this is where paul ryan is critical. he's been an adult in a room that surely needs more adults. if paul ryan is successful, i think house republicans can move forward in a direction that we haven't done in year. >> what do you sigh? >> and not giving the democrats any populist issues to talk about, talking about tax rules that just won't work or make more money for -- they don't that, they don't pass the highway bill. in states where it matters, those things will have
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tremendous embarked. hillary clinton said last week she wanted to make it harder to acquire another countmpany and to the another country to avoid taxes. in the midwest, this presidential race probably in the heartland again. they're tax sensitive and road tested. >> i think it's a test of -- and now you have ryan -- mcconnell has to get the stuff moving through. >> rather than come out with new rules so that companies can't leave america to go bet a better tax rate, why not just attack tax reform? w00t notice change the tax code? why has this been so difficult? itches the true of -- if ryan would have stayed as chairman ofs ways and means, it might have happened next year. >> it's not so simple in an
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election year. real quick on the syrian refugee bill? >> we don't know. the question is, will they get to a vetoproof number? >> will it matter if the federal reserve raises interest rates? >> only to senior citizens. that will become an important -- >> he or she who is responsible will that will have a problem for the fall. >> if they don't raise rates? >> correct. >> it's like the old song, i've heard that song before. every time we the fed meetings, we here this is the time. >> will you you're right about seniors. they're not getting any money. >> there are so many people dependent on the stock portfolio or bonds or what have you, and they've had no interest no years. for my sense that will become a bigger issue. >> for sure. in fact a lot of the candidates are not loving janet yellen right now.
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