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liberty mutual insurance. dierdre: thank you both, have a great weekend. we'll get more information from a live poll coming to you with charles payne, "making money" starts now. charles: a brand-new fox news poll released just right now. donald trump continues to lead the gop pack in the latest national poll at 35% but is down from 39%. ted cruz is 39%. the other candidates in double digits. hillary clinton leads at 54%. we are 23 days away from the iowa caucus.
ted cruz and donald trump remain on top there. in new hampshire running away with it. marco rubio continues to surprise new hampshire second place in another poll. ted cruz hanging in there as well. look what bernie sanders is now versus november of last year. hillary is not running away with new hampshire. he's ahead of her by 13 percentage point. but we have breaking news. you have seen it last night in philadelphia. a man opened fire on a police car in an execution-style ambush. >> shots fired, shots fired, i'm shot. i'm bleeding heavily. charles: that was officer harden on his radio after a man fired
13 shots at him. bravely officer hartnet was able to get out of his car and shoot back at the suspect. the gunman edward archer confessed to the authorities. >> the suspect in question is a 30-year-old male with a philadelphia address. he confessed to committing this cowardly act in the name of islam. according to him he believes that the police defend laws that are contrary to the teaching of the quran. charles: joining me now, bo dietl ... the special twist here again, isis we are seeing them all over this country and they are pretty bold now. >> my heart and soul goes out to that officer and his family.
i hope for his quick recovery. he truly is a hero. after being shot three times he got out of his car and fired his weapon. with this said, this is not isis, this is not one country, this is not al qaeda. this is radical islam. this is a lone wolf who has done it in the name of allah. he's shooting at, killing this cop under the name allah. this doesn't have to be isis. this is the mentality of radical islam. it's about time this president and everybody says what it is. charles: he attempted to kill the cop. the brave police officer was struck three times. he got out of the car to wound this guy. we know it's radical islam. there is the organization, the sleeper cells and so-called lone wolves. but even the lone wolves have to
be inspired. >> the islamic state has been savvy in its social media outreach. there has been indication they are seeking out and looking for people who are like this guy who have potential mental illness, who are the school shooter types. they have given a blanket invitation to do violence in the name of allah. it will be a difficult thing for law enforcement to combat. charles: the mayor blames guns, his mother blames a football injury. it's one thing to call it out, radical islam, they are coming after us, we know what their intentions are. but when these individual commit these kind of crimes and the knee jerk reaction by the left is to say it's gun violence -- >> julian is right, this is a criminal profile at play here. there is nothing wrong with us look at this.
there are patterns. we are seeing individuals being inspired with these propaganda mechanisms. let's come up with a criminal profile to target this. charles: last year set a new record for terror plots in america. 13 islamist inspires plots were uncovered last year. that's significantly more than any year before that. >> we have said quite often on this show the war is coming here. the battle won't be fought overseas. what we saw happen in philadelphia was a direct attack on the some of turn united states government. whether he was connected to isis or not we'll find out later. he's a career criminal and we know every time we put these individuals behind bars, what do the judges do? they put them back out on the streets to shoot cops. >> look at this guy's history.
in 2012 he had a charge, it was a gun assault, and was charged with mak -- making terroristic threats. >> try these terrorists as enemy combatants. >> by 2040, it of the estimated half of the world will be muslim. we have got to get the moderate muslims to realize the west and the united states is not their enemy and we want to help them. we must psychologically get them to come on board because we can't be fighting half the world. >> i think it begins in community. that's the real problem here. we have a breakdown of community. that's why we'll are isolationists and we are paying the price. charles: would it begin in a mosque?
>> i'm talking about a larger sense. i'm talking about reaching out to our moderate muslim neighbors and people in schools. >> reporting from croatia one of the most encouraging things i saw dealing with refugees is create shahn christians saying we want to get involved in this. >> what's important is how do we fix it. we have to let the people of the middle east, the moderate muslims realized we want to help them, we want to build schools. charles: we have done that, i think, bo. we've have spent billions of dollars around the world. we saved the planet on more than one occasion. we continue to lose men and women in iraq and afghanistan.
why is the onus on america. if you are a moderate muslim living in america and you see the direction things are going into, what's the onus on you? >> the only problem i have, the palestinians are in you such poverty, they are teaching. where did religion come from? it came from poor people believing something. >> why should american blood be spilled? >> i think a lot of what we are seeing is the i.s. withdrawal from international affairs has created a vacuum and we are seeing an explosion of jihad. >> i'm not talking about military. i'm talking about kids with no food or education. i want to be an ambassador to change their idea of america. charles: with wee respect to what they are saying, we have seen a lot of attacks in this country by muslims born in this country that came here at a
young love. they got that love. they got the baby shower and wedding gifts and education. you know what? they hop in a convertible and shoot up recruiting center. they go to the workplace and kill their fellow workers. >> you are saying at some point when is enough enough on our part. but we are paying the ultimate price. charles: there is some sort of animassity towards america. >> i hair. but ultimately we can play the blame game. i'm just not interested in it. >> i you would think the solution is pretty harsh. >> the fact of the matter is, in afghanistan they don't want us there. the iraqi government kicked us out. none of these countries wants us there. >> i understand foreign policy. when you are not welcome in somebody's home, why should more americans die.
charles: what do you think the solution to be? >> just like what's happening in germany. they are taking in refugees break the law and causing riots. put them in jail. keep them the middle east. that's where you use the military. charles: 8 million muslim-americans. what do we do with 8 million people who for the most part living here fees any. however, this radicalization process is growing. it's attracting more of them, particularly young ones. >> we need to protect the american-muslims that live here. >> i don't want to see that growing like a cancer. >> one of the most important things our country is facing is the terrorist threat. we have to get the imams and the muslim people together to start
to preach we are all america and we love each other. i'm annex detective. suppose to be a hard guy. i want these kids to love the country the way i love this country. they got to understand, they have to live together. >> it's called assimilation. >> i think it can be effective. we have seen episodes where it hasn't been. >> we have 330 million people in this country. the amount of incidents are minute compared to the number muslims who are here. >> they are americans. charles: it doesn't have to be a lot when it's horrific. when you kill -- scene we saw in san bernardino and paris, and assassination attempt on a police officer. you don't need a lot of those to really make every american feel afraid.
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>> it was so wrong for him to try to push his policy through in 11 months. what he has done is given a bazooka to the republicans to hit hillary with. now everyone will be motivated, especially the second amendment rights activists. so this helps donald trump and republicans. >> do you think so, bo? >> my thing is, my nra guys will scream and yell at me. but i'm more background and people on the no-fly zone not to be able to buy guns. but i'm also for people learning how to use the gun. training. if the president was going to say something progressive. shoot at least twice a year. good strong nra gun owners, if they showed up when that cop was getting shot at they would have opened up on him. gun owners are good in america.
we have 300 million guns, and they are good people who are gun owners and i support them. charles: chris kyle's widow had a chance to speak to the president in the town lal with cnn. >> the thing is the laws we create don't stop these horrific things from happening, right? that's a tough pill to swallow. we want to think we can make a law and people will follow it. but by the very nature of their crime were they are not following it. by the very nature of looking at the people who hurt our loved ones here, i don't know that any of them would have been stopped by background checks. charles: the shooter in philadelphia, it was a stolen gun. he wouldn't have gone through backgrounds checks. that underscores the point she
was making. >> it's not about guns. it's about light sentencing and release these animals back on the streets to kill innocent people. look what's happening in chicago. the gangs, the bad guys have the guns. >> executive order, atf, f.b.i., let's go after these guys. there should be reasonable background checks. >> we need a militia, i know that sounds extreme, but these muslims coming in. the extremists, people are scared and americans want to buy their guns. charles: it's one thing for everyone to be stretched and if something goes down we could bring the bad guy down. with the any la sha -- with thea would it be too extreme and
cause more problems than it would solve. >> i don't think so. the second amendment right needs to be strong. charles: we are going to talk about this a lot more. i have breaking news. i have breaking news. your worst nightmare continues at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like reunions equal blatant lying. the company is actually doing really well on, on social media. oh that's interesting. i - i started social media. oh! it was my...baby. you're down with crestor. alright! now there's a way you can get crestor for $3. adding crestor, along with diet, lowers bad cholesterol. crestor is not for people with liver disease, or women who are nursing,pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take.
support to isis. a big campaign issue with respect to syria. plus slim refugees in general, muslims in general, now we are starting to see arrests. >> the reality is, an attack could happen anywhere. and people are shake to the core that that's what may happen, particularly because they have have no confidence there are any safeguards or vetting. now that we have seen arrests like this and the attack in philadelphia, there is no confidence there is vetting in immigration and people like the guy in philadelphia who are inspired by the islamic state. it could happen anywhere and people are shaken to the core. that's going to build a ground swell for people want to go
limit muslims entering into the united states. charles: the man arrested in texas was the 80th person charged with an isis-related crime since 2013. >> my friend donald trump said shut the borders down until we know what's coming in. we know with el chapo being captured today. they are able to charge right through there, they are coming in through the middle east, from south america to central america and coming up our southern borderer. that's why donald trump is so appealing to people because he's saying the facts and what are true. this is the tip of the iceberg. they are also attacking with the f.b.i. internet, all these facebook and twitters. charles: i brought this up earlier in the show. this particular guy says he
earns $1,800 a month, he's married and has a child. he probably couldn't make that kind of money and support his family in a country where he fled from. >> that's a great question. the bigger question is we have red flags. why weren't they caught? one of these guys had been in the youth, gone to syria to fight, told investigators he was seeing tore see blood in syria then came right on back. we somehow didn't catch that. charles: not on should we keep gitmo open, we should make it bigger. anyone who leaves this country to go to fight in syria against our allies,er in no longer americans. we'll talk about this fox news poll. trump is leading in the. doorbell. they're going to lose this challenge. kermit, my man. you ready to fan out? i can't watch the game.
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marco rubio is in third place at 15% and voters say it's national security, overwhelmingly. that became the number one issue following san bernardino and paris and it will probably gain even more traction here. darren shaw, republican consultant for the fox news poll. a lot of moving parts here. i think what jumped out at me is the continued chipping away of ted cruz at donald trump. >> you see that in the national numbers. but you see it in some of the states. a little bit of movement in new hampshire and a consolidation of the lead in iowa. the poll results match what we are hearing from people on the ground in iowa. cruz is extremely well organized. the bus tours seem to be paying off. if anything happened last month when most people were on vacation dealing with the holidays.
it seems cruz's momentum is picking up a bit. >> to that point, we are getting more and more people who say okay, they are certain now of who they are going to vote for. and maybe less than half saying they are not certain. but that number was over 50% before. as the pool shrinks how do the candidate get remaining folks who aren't committed? >> it's always a difficult question. how do you break through when there is a dozen candidate who have been marshaling their resources trying to get your attention. analogy we use in political science is snowght a crowded cafeteria. the best way to lock down your vote at this point is to have people on the ground knock on doors and dragging voters to the polls. explaining the caucus process.
in new hampshire making sure people will show up and vote. in some ways it's a mobilization game. >> if someone stood in 10 degree weather for an hour and a half to hear donald trump speak two miles from their home wouldn't it mean they would show up to vote for him? >> it would. he elect somebody talks about there is enthusiasm at the events. the events demonstrate, the speeches are well attended and there is enthusiasm on the ground. we heard that in 1988 about dukakis and dole. in. >> i way it's particularly important whatever enthusiasm you are feeling on the ground has to be matched by sort of getting people to understand the actual process of the caucasus. it's not that easy.
charles: marco rubio is solidly in third place nationally. he increased in iowa. is he within striking distance? i don't know anyone thought a couple weeks ago he would be in the top two. he could win either of those states. >> i don't know that he's within strikingdistance. pollster calf yachts, things can change. is it possible rubio could pull off an upset? i don't know that he has from what i understand, the ground game to knock off one of the top two. but a strong third place finish works well for him, i think. >> he's got some great-looking shoes there. we really appreciate it. you can google it if you haven't seen his shoes. i want to bring in our political panel. mark, i know you are a trump
guy. what do you make of trump sort of pulling back a little bit. from 39% to 35%. and cruz winding his lead in iowa. does that make you a little bit anxious? >> i'm an outsider guy. that's what i want to see so we turn over washington. here i would say there is a couple of key things to remember. iowa is lousy at picking gop nominees. we only picked two out of six of the last several elections where there wasn't an incumbent gop president in the race. charles: is that a our grapes kind of thing? they don't care who, trump wouldn't be upset or hurt or visibly impacted by this if he didn't win iowa? >> i mean, frankly what will happen is the two top vote getters in iowa will be very, very close. so they will have to slug it out
in new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. but even more important than that is a huge wildcard, open primaries. there are states like arkansas and alabama, michigan, minnesota, virginia, tennessee which have primaries by mid march where democrats and independents can vote. if trump is going to win i think it's because he mobilizes those people to vote for him. i think cruz may win iowa. trump may win iowa. charles: you talk about trump and the reagan democrats, that's in play, too. >> i think he's spot on with that. i saw a piece talking about the on thing scary -- a progressive left piece -- the on scary thing about a donald trump nomination is if he's not nominated.
they are talking about ted cruz. trump is going to benefit immensely from that propaganda. charles: i did the math. the non-establishment candidates in november were 69% total. could these establishment guys be make an attempt to be relevant? >> i think you see that with jeb bush's fundraising. rubio has been ping on holed into being an establishment candidate. i don't think he's an establishment guy. but for him it's become a situation where if he can get enough people to drop off and be strategic. >> i hear what you are saying. he came into washington as a tea party guy. in this particular instance he would have to team up with the establishment. rubio's problem is he's trying to be all things to all people. and i think that will hurt him.
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charles: u.s. job growth last month beat everybody's expectations. but wages, there was zero-zero wage growth. while we opened higher, we started to drift until we got what you see on the screen, a massive sell-off moments into the close. this is the worst beginning to a stock mark in any given year ever. how do we get to the bottom? we have a new panel. danielle booth, david nelson and chad morganlander. everyone is getting hit. we are down 1,000 points the first week of the year. what does it say for the rest of the year?
>> i hope it doesn't continue. i think we have a dichotomy. you have jobs versus gdp. that was a pretty good jobs number today. it was across-the-board gains in almost every second over our economy but the gdp keeps dripping down. this china dynamic is serious and it has to be brought into tour economy because a lot of ceos made big bets in china. charles: what ever happened to america being the key engine of growth for the world. >> the percentage of gdp is far lower than it used to be. 75% of global growth comes from the emerging markets, and that includes china. china has invested a tremendous amount of money, fueling the
global economy with this debt they have taken on. now they are desell rating that debt and -- now they are decelerating that debt. and that's having an effect with our equity markets and within our economy. charles: you think this is more about china and america. >> i do. charles: i thought the one glaring red flag from this morning's report was the wages. there is no wage growth. how come the gdp isn't growing? people aren't making more money. then guys at the fed, john williams spooks us at the beginning of the day. committed to the rate hikes. why are they committed to that?
>> when you look understood the hood of today's labor record you will under why wages aren't growing. 3% of jobs created went to people 35-50 years old. all of the other jobs went to much young are people and older people rejoining the workforce. i call that part-time employment. it explains the dichotomy of economic growth and gdp and what you have seen with the labor numbers. then you bring in china and this destruction of confidence, the trillion dollars that have been taken off just the s & p500 this week will get c -- ceo's attention. charles: the police chief in care of my heart.
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and perhaps this is yes was fired. but this goes to one of the greatest fears of a lot of people. a lot of migrants and asylum seekers run amok. there was some ugly stuff going on over there. >> these women are attacked and raped. this is something that is a possibility for our country. the on silver lining is the fact that we can see -- the three of us could walk out in the subway in penn station and be attacked by 1,000 migrants. i would rather that not happen. we can learn from this example. we need a vetting process if we have migrants come in at all. charles: gillian you spent time with some migrants in eastern europe. is there a part of their culture where it's accepted where they come from? even if they are not doing it they will look at other way?
>> the refugee population is incredibly diverse. but i did meet people who were wonderful. but i heard stories from volunteers. one woman who reached out to help a woman who stumbled, and a man came at her with a knife. i think there is a cultural problem within islam about disrespect for women. and this is coming out. does this mean we should not accept anyone? letly not. i would fave a refugee policy that gives priority to women head of household, women fleeing this kind of violence. we are getting a glimpse of what these women live with. charles: general scales, how do we vet them properly? >> that's a great question. i think what the germans are learning is the fact that refugees, immigrants, tend to
take their culture with them. as the two ladies said, there is not a lot you can do with that. arab culture tend to be ma song tonight and anti-semitic and against liberal democracies in general. you can vet to some degree, but you can't vet culture and thousands of years of embedded collective thought. that's going to be the problem. charles: there were situations in helsinki and cologne and other places. the mayor of cologne said she'll publish a code of conduct for the women, for the women. >> that makes we cringe. i can't and this notion there is an invitation on the part of women to invite that kind of behavior. until our f.b.i. director can say we can effective live vet the people coming into this
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everyday way of life? they're having in greater frequency and it feels each event perhaps inspires another one and there are places in the world where people -- civilized people have come to learn with this. >> the more energy isis has and when you see the videos of them training with heat-seeking missiles, the more that they get steam, people then sit on their computers, and they think they're for real. so more join up and the loan wolves are the one that scare me. charles: right? >> because we don't know where they're coming from. charles: hold 'em holiday on one second, guys. i do have breaking news. a criteria announced by nbc could bump martin o'malley off the next debate. but party leaders say they expect all three major democratic candidates to secure a turn. right now it looks like o'malley does not qualify. general scales, you know, we look around the world, and i look at israel in particular who over the years they have come to live with horrific
incidents so that a day i think two or three israelis were killed, murdered, maybe stabbed to death. i remember were blowing up every day. i know america doesn't want to become that nation, but can we stop it? >> well, thankfully, charles, we have two oceans and not surrounded by a bunch of angry neighbors. i remember the 1970s when i came back from vietnam, i came back from a safer country. now, officers go out and they have to worry about not only their own lives but about the lives of their family. no, this is something that has to be addressed. you cannot let this wave of isis nuttiness grow in this country because we're not a country -- i believe we're not a country that can really deal with it. charles: steve rodgers, would the solution be to become isolationist? to put it on the northern border, you know, how about 100%? how about kicking everyone out the country?
do we want to be that country? is that too dramatic? and if it's not, what is the solution? >> well, the solution is to be smart. to make sure that you have -- >> don't we feel smart already? what are we doing wrong right now? >> we're letting everybody in right now. that's what we're doing and the other change, you talked about a way of life changing here. we have to see policing methodologies change, what i saw in that video was one man in a patrol car, you have to go to two men, give them the firepower, the equipment, that's how we protect change. >> islam phobia. let's stop being politically incorrect. if you see something, you call up. you see fourior ablooking guys in a 7-eleven bringing boxes of stuff in there that doesn't look right. pick up the phone, call. charles: all right, guys. got to leave it there. great stuff as usual. by the way, before we go of course it's friday and american success as always. and tonight is ben carson's wife candy carson authors a new book. doctor in the house my life with ben carson. now, to watch the interview of
her, go to the website, www www.foxbusiness.com/charles pa www.foxbusiness.com/charlespay ne. it was an absolutely great show, a crazy week in the markets around the world and of course the potential -- the bye. good evening, everybody. i'm lou dobbs. did north korea detonate a therm no nuclear bomb or did it not? the north koreans today are boasting of the spectacular success of its first ever hydrogen bomb test. the explosion created a 5.1 magnitude seismic event which is modestly stronger than the last north korean detonation, but u.s. officials say they doubt the north koreans have a hydrogen bomb. >> the initial analysis that's been conducted of the events that were reported overnight is not consistent with north korean claims of a successful hydrogen bomb test.