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prepping like crazy, very hard at work, diligently following the news cycle, there are going to be big surprises and for the best minds in tv covering those two debates. david: all right. and you're one of the best minds to cover those people who are covering the debates. thank you very much, kennedy, great to have you. risk and reward starts now. . >> americans lining up across the country after today's market drop and in some cases for hours just for the shot at winning the largest lottery, welcome i'm cheryl in for deirdre bolton. coming up we have a seven-time lottery winner on how you can improve your odds on taking home the billion-dollar payday. but first we head back to south carolina where fox business is preparing to bring you our next republican presidential debate tomorrow night. coverage starting at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. and iowa polls shows donald trump regaining ground against ted cruz.
blake berman joins me now. on the ground in charleston. >> hi, cheryl, good afternoon to you. these debates have certainly shaped the narrative during this entire election cycle and the focus on this debate will be of course attorney night but also with it will be the focus of what exactly is going on in iowa, new hampshire, here in south carolina, the first of the three early states and as you mentioned a brand-new poll out of iowa today. pretty much sums up what we've been seeing there over the last few days, few weeks even really. it comes from the des moines register, and it has ted cruz on top of donald trump, 25 to 22 with marco rubio at 12, dr. ben carson at 11. those two, the cap potentially cruz and trump could be narrowing because that same poll from just a month ago had cruz up 10 now up 3. our fox news poll from last week had cruz up 4. so it appears to be narrowing
there in iowa, and i want to show you exactly how much so. take a look at this. this comes from real clear politics. the site that aggregates all the polls and averaging them out. when they look at ted cruz and donald trump in iowa, the first in the nation caucus, it is within half a percentage point. so those two on top in iowa and they will be front and center here tomorrow night in north charleston, south carolina. back to you. gerri: great race and that's what makes it so much fun. thank you so much. well, you want to be sure to tune in to the republican debate tomorrow night with fox business starting 5:00 p.m. eastern time with lou dobbs. and now more on tomorrow night's debate on fox business 2012 gop presidential candidate herman cane joins me now. herman, hello to you, sir. >> hello, cheryl, thank you. >> i have a question for you. who do you think is in a make it or break it situation tomorrow night? >> i happen to believe that all of the candidates on the
stage on the main stage tomorrow night, they have an opportunity to make it or break it. and here's why. i know because of the previous debates that the questions are going to be substantive and it's up to the candidates to make sure that they grab those moments, and they grab those questions and let the the mesh people know where they clearly stand on those issues. so everyone has an opportunity to make it or break it. it's what they do with the questions that i know are going to be coming from the moderators. cheryl: and we are of course promising substantial questions tomorrow night. >> yes. cheryl: but i do want you to take a listen to president obama. he was saying last night that his one regret was divisiveness during his presidency. >> yes. cheryl: roll tape. barack obama: one of the few regrets of my presidency. that the ranker and suspicion between the parties has gotten worse instead of better. i told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can take
without congress. with congress or on my own -- now, i'm going to be working with congress where i can to accomplish this. but i'm also going to act on my own if congress is deadlocked. where congress isn't acting, i'll act on my own. whenever and wherever i can take steps without legislation to expand opportunity for more american families, that's what i'm going to do. cheryl: okay, herman. by all of these executive orders, wasn't he the one that was bypassing congress? >> absolutely. cheryl, let's go back to the first two years of his term as president the first time. when he said "we" the democrats are driving and you the republicans sit in the backseat. what type of relationship do you think that would set up? it's it set up a confrontational relationship, and he didn't add to it by saying he's going to go along. by saying that he has a pen and a phone. he created this divisiveness
between congress and the white house. and when some of the members of congress were asked, how many times has the president said let's sit down and find that common ground and then maybe move forward? he doesn't do that. his whole style in the last seven years has been his way or no way. and the members of congress, the republicans, they simply aren't going to accept that. he created the divisiveness. cheryl: well, you know, and it's interesting because i was wondering if the president was continuing to be divisive with this comment against donald trump. listen to this. barack obama: when politicians insult muslims, whether abroad or our fellow citizens, what mosque is vandalized or a kid is called names, that doesn't make us safer.
that's not telling it like it is. it's just wrong. it diminishes us in the eyes of the world. [clapping] cheryl: okay. you heard that comment, herman. is this more divisiveness in that statement? >> yes. look, one of the things i do on my radio show every day is set the record straight. donald trump didn't insult all muslims. he didn't insult the muslims already in this country. he clearly stated until we know what the hell we are doing to use his words, we need to put a pause on people coming from predominantly muslim nations. that's not insulting any of the people that are overly politically correct and this president and the democrats have demonstrated that they are more concerned with political correctness than they are in protecting the citizens of this country.
so his premise, i reject, that donald trump says something that was insulting. cheryl: well, i want to stay with the issue of donald trump here for just a moment. i want you top of the key a listen to republican governor in south carolina nicki haley on trump and then listen to trump responding to her. >> yes. >> he was one of them, yes. he was one, there were other people in the media, people in my state. i think we're seeing it across the country. but, yes, mr. trump has definitely contributed to what i think is just irresponsible talk. >> she's very weak on illegal immigration and, you know, i've known that for a long time. but weak on illegal immigration and certainly has no trouble asking me to campaign contributions because over the years, she has asked me for a hell of a lot of money. >> would you pick her as a vp running mate? >> well, considering i'm leading in the polls by a lot, i wouldn't say she's off to a good start based on what she has just said. so, you know, let's see what happens. cheryl: okay. so trump going after her, which is this is what he does. he goes after those who attack him.
but i'm curious if you think nicki haley there had a point that maybe mr. trump is contributing to this irresponsible talk that's out there. >> well, first i don't call it all irresponsible talk because, cheryl, the way i see it, there's a fine line between noise and irresponsible talk and passion. and she even said in that clip even some people in her own states lindsey graham, senator lindsey graham was one of the most passionate people about what we need to do to take on isis. i happen to agree with him. so, you know, i know i might be in the minority, no upon intended, but i happen to see more has someone expressing their passion rather than just being noise. i would use the word passion more so than anything else. and one other quick comment. cheryl: okay. >> dr. ben carson has been criticized for not being passionate enough. he's been criticized for not being noisy enough if you use
that narrative. cheryl: true. >> i would rather use the narrative passion instead of noise because that's what people are connecting with. cheryl: herman cane, you also have a lot of passion, and it was great to have you on tonight. 2012 gop presidential candidate. herman, thank you very much. >> i'm just passionate, cheryl. cheryl: no, and i like you for it. thank you, sir, we'll see you soon. >> thank you very much. cheryl: all right. well, we've got to get to the story of the day with regards to markets. the dow losing triple digit, 364 points, the s&p in correction territory. lori rothman joins me from the floor of the new york stock exchange and the floor really escalated the last hour and a half. >> yes, it did, cheryl. i'm starting to think we have a better shot of winning the powerball than making money in the stock market. we closed in excess of 2% three benchmark scavenges blaming usual suspects. disappointing economic news out of china. it was a little bit better
than expected, but it portends a very weak gop over the next week and that's what got everybody today. and the crude oil price breached that psychological level of $30 a barrel. of course the measurement overseas. wti held steady at $30 a barrel and what's interesting because we saw shares of exxon mobile hold up, i believe it was the only issue to close in the green on the dow jones industrial average. but this is the panic here. you saw this one of the best performing in 2015 and the weakest today and that was really illustrated in shares in amazon.com which were crushed down about 8.5% today. gopro breaking news shares halted over it, the company announcing a 7% workforce, laying off 7% of the workforce to a cost of 5 to $10 million because of weak holiday sales. there you see that's the close but the bid and is looking like it's a climb of 22% on gopro. so, again, a broad base selloff today. big earnings tomorrow, heavy
hitters like jp morgan will report before the opening bell, see if we can get positive momentum from them. in the meantime, cheryl, back to you. cheryl: and we're going to have it in mornings with maria, and all those are going to kick in. lori rothman, thank you very much, lori. well, it's t minus less than six hours. the powerball big 1.5 billion drawing. rick is live in jersey talking to some hopeful winners thank they have a chance, huh, rick? >> they do, cheryl, this is the largest lottery jackpot in the history of the world, but i have some bad news. you're not going to win, and i'm not going to win. someone might win, but it will most likely not be us. the odds are 292 million to one. but tickets are selling at a blistering pace. 570,000 tickets being spit out of those machines every single minute nationwide and there are lines up to four hours long at the borders of some of the five states that don't have lottery, including
california right at the nevada border where nevada doesn't sell tickets, even though you're more likely to get hit by an asteroid, someone could become an overnight billionaire. so i asked advice who knows lifestyle of the rich and famous better than anyone. robert leech. >> don't let the money change your life. money cannot buy you happiness. so it's nice to have a bank account with zeros in it, but just remember how you spent the day before. and if you were happy with the way you spent the day before, then continue living that way. >> great advice. lottery officials are expected to sell 85% of the possible lottery combinations so there's a 15% that no one will win tonight and saturday's jackpot could top $2 billion. cheryl: rick, i still bought tickets today. >> well, so did i. chyl: e drm's ive, ck, r bo of . yoneveknow >>es, is. chyl: ck le ouin jeey. thanyou ry mh.
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have an ability if not properly guide to get out of control. and i'm appreciative for the quick and appropriate response of the iranian authorities. cheryl: secretary of state john kerry thanking iran for its quick release of ten navy sailors. this after the iranian media published this video of their arrest showing the soldiers on their knees with their hands on their head. this morning presidential candidate jeb bush reacted to the united states response to this and the iran deal. >> the crazy news is that we are legitimatizing a regime that views us as an enemy across the board. the part of this that's deeply troubling is we've negotiated a deal with them that legitimatizing the regime and they're accelerating the release of over $100 billion of frozen assets, and they violate sanctions on a regular basis. they're the largest sponsor of terrorism in the region and in the world.
and we believe that there's a possibility of cooperating with them when they don't. cheryl: a retired u.s. army colonel robert is here. colonel, your thoughts on the u.s. basically thanking iran for letting our sailors go? >> yeah. i think we all remember 1979 when we had our embassy invaded or attacked in iran. i remember 1983 when they killed 200 plus marines. i remember the war in iraq where they killed hundreds of my comrades with their i (e) ds. i remember how they attacked israel. and they're an enemy, this man needs to be briefed on how to react in the face of an enemy. you don't apologize to those thugs and, unfortunately, this administration has cobble to the type of behavior that is just intolerable. not only are they making
nuclear weapons, they have ballistic missiles that are attacking indiscriminately a lot of our friends and even coming close to the uss truman. so we need to make sure that we understand the nature of the iranian revolutionar revolutionary guard and their other proxies around the world. they don't like us, and we have to be very careful because we are at war whether we like it or not. cheryl: well, here's my concern is that they have possession of that ship for hours, okay? is it on possible that the revolutionary guard went on board specifically to steal technology, intelligence, data, off of that ship? >> there's no question that if there's any intelligence value on that ship, they would have used a vacuum and swept it all up. you know, that's just the nature of what happens. which was taken by the north korean's, of course that was -- they took all of that and of course held those
people for a long period of time. even the brits. interestingly a few years ago, 17 were taken and that -- they held them for two weeks. fortunately they let these people go, and i think the speculation's probably right. these people have -- the lottery is guy pay out $140 billion in the next few weeks if they behave and congress wouldn't have tolerated misbehavior, especially with our ten sailors. cheryl: i do understand that. i do want to move to another topic. we all remember when the president got a lot of flak for calling isis the jv team. well, here we go. the president had a new choice of words. listen to this. barack obama: masses of fighters on the back of puppets, twisted souls plotting in apartments or garages, they pose an enormous danger to civilians, they have to be stopped. but they do not threaten our national existence. cheryl: okay. they don't.
well, former cia deputy director testified on capitol hill yesterday, colonel, he said the terror group -- and listen to this, dangerously growing. roll tape. >> isis has gained affiliates faster than al-qaeda ever did. from nothing a year ago, there are now militant groups in nearly 20 countries that have sworn allegiance to isis. cheryl: colonel, who's right? >> well, they are expanding. their motto is excluding and enduring. over the last 18 months, they declared 37 provinces in 13 countries. essentially that means they're morphing, they're expanding. you know, their strategy has changed and this president obviously doesn't understand. it used it be a holy war. today it's about building the legitimacy of which they have in nigeria, they have it in afghanistan, parts of pakistan, you know, across the
entire world, and they're using the treasure chest of a billion plus dollars to seed, you know, these loan wolf or attacks even in our own country. and there's plenty of evidence from the fbi on that. so, yeah, these people are expanding. it's not world war iii yet, but it's getting very serious, and we need to knock them out long before they get any worse. cheryl: it's a different type of war i think. >> it is. cheryl: retired u.s. colonel, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. cheryl: well, coming up she fought the law, and she may win. the teacher suing the union for forcing her to pay do you see argued her case before the supreme court on monday, and she is going to argue her case to us coming up next. and here's a question. is the term illegal immigrant a bad word? well, hillary clinton is promising one univision anchor to never use the phrase again. coming up a guest who says presidential candidate will do anything for a vote. that's after this
cheryl: the supreme court is deciding a case brought by a group of teachers against the california teachers association because even though public employees are allowed to opt out of the union, they still have to pay a portion of union do you se called a fair share service fee. and that can cost them hundreds of dollars a year. so forcing public workers support unions they don't join violate the first amendment? let's bring in lead plaintiff in this case rebecca and her attorney. rebecca, okay. i know that you don't want to pay the dues. i understand that. but what is the one thing that the union does that bothers you the most? >> well, the union takes positions in collective bargaining that are completely
against everything i believe. for example, they push for something called last in first out. which means the last person hired is the first person fired, no matter whether they are the best teacher on the campus. so these seniority-based decisions mean often the greatest teachers lose their jobs while inferior teachers lose their jobs. this is bad for my students, in fact, near me in california a teacher of the year lost her job and inferior teachers kept their job. i think that is wrong. cheryl: this is something chris christy in new jersey has had a big beef with teachers. so what does this mean legally? if the supreme court rules in your favor and honestly i've heard they might here because that has seemed that kind of that is where this is going. how would public sector unions going forward? >> well, what it means is that the laws in 23 states that require public employees to join the union or pay agency
fees is a condition of employment will go off the books. they will be unconstitutional. so from that day forward, public employees in those states and across the country will have the choice to decide for themselves whether to pay money to the union to advocate on their behalf. we believe this is what the first amendment requires, and we're hopeful that the court will agree with us. cheryl: rebecca and terry, i have to say we're anxiously awaiting this decision from the supreme court. and we wish you both well in your case. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> thank you. cheryl: all right. well, coming up, everybody knows about donald trump's wall. >> and we have to build a wall. and it will be a great wall. who builds better than me? you know, we have to rebuild -- nobody. [laughter] okay. but did you know that hillary pushed for her own wall as well? >> what's the difference between your idea and trump's idea of building a wall on mexico? cheryl: okay. hillary's
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following and i quote numerous times when i was a senator to build money to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. so first question would you commit right now not to use the word illegal or legal? >> oh, yeah. absolutely. [clapping] yeah, that was a poor choice of words and obviously historically -- >> you don't use it anymore? >> i haven't used it since, i won't use it in the future. cheryl: okay. well, univision host grilling democratic frontrunner hillary clinton over her past use of the phrase illegal immigrant. sabrina schaffer both join me now. ladies, great to have you both here, and, sabrina, i want to start with you on the term illegal immigrant. is that an offensive phrase? >> you know, i really don't think it is, and it just goes to show how much of a politician hillary clinton is. the reality is illegal
immigrants is what we're dealing with. what she should have said is of course this is a country that was built by immigrants, immigrants have a tremendous amount to offer this country, what we have is a broken immigrant system. but she was so quick to worry about the system her comments seemed so unpc, she forgot to get to the better part of the issue. cheryl: also grilled her over border security. take a listen to this. >> if you believe in building a wall, what's the difference between your idea and donald trump's idea on building a wall on mexico? >> well, i think that everybody that i know of in the democratic party and it used to be republicans too as you know, jorge, who favored immigration reform also favored border security. >> you want a wall then? >> no. >> you said that. >> well, i voted for border security and some of it was a fence. cheryl: okay. that's the thing, erica. is there a difference between a fence and a wall?
isn't it the same thing? >> no. there's actually a difference. a wall in my mind is kind of brick on brick, you can't see through it. but really technically they're talking about putting up some sort of barrier -- there's no line in the sand or dirt that says u.s., mexico. they're creating a physical line. cheryl: but i think it does, though, erica. i think it's the same thing. i think -- >> i think it's the same spirit. exactly right. it's the same spirit, the same idea that we're putting a physical barrier where one is just basically drawn on a map. and i think the dig difference is that there's been -- most of the border security bills that have gone through have had a component about building walls, strengthening fences, that's kind of part of the compromise of it. so, you know, a lot of people, you know, talk about, you know, purity, but really there's no such thing as purity in a good piece of legislation. you have to compromise on that. the big difference between her and trump is that trump says
mexico will pay for that sort of physical barrier. cheryl: sure. ladies, here's the thing. if you haven't heard, we're just over 20 hours away from the fox business debate, that's going to be of course in charleston, south carolina. first debate is at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. the top seven candidates going to take the main stage for the second debate at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. sabrina, to you first. which candidate do you think has the most on the line tomorrow night? >> it's interesting. one person i'm keeping my eye on is chris christy. i just -- i think this is is an opportunity for republican candidates to come out there with something positive, to not seem warning to not seem that they're fighting with each other, to not only be piling on but the president to bring the politics back to the personal level. i think the person who can do that best is going to be the one who comes out ahead. cheryl: okay, erica, i've got five seconds. give me a name. >> i think chris christy as well, he has been doing well in the town halls, the northeast is coming up with new hampshire and that should
be an area he's doing well-being from new jersey. cheryl: out of time, got a lot of ground covered. thank you both so much. >> thank you, deirdre. cheryl: all right. well, president obama is calling out those who question his economy. >> anyone claiming that america's economy is in decline is pedaling fiction. cheryl: well, coming up, my next guest is today's triple digit dow drop is as real as it gets. that's what they say. also if you lost a lot of money today in the markets, winning tonight's billion dollar powerball drawing could help heal those financial wounds. we've got a seven-time lottery winner and how you could improve your odds. after this at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like reunions equal blatant lying.
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>> anyone claiming that america's economy is in decline is it pedaling fiction. what is true and the reason a lot of americans feel anxious is that the economy has been changing in profound ways. cheryl: president obama telling the country's economy during his time in office but are we all really better off eight years later? fox business gerri willis has the numbers. gerri, what did you find out? gerri: cheryl, i've got to tell you i think it's the president that's pedaling fiction because that's because he's looking only at the numbers that you want you -- he wants to see. this is an organization that they're not left, not right, just reporting on their membership. they say 93% of counties, that is the vast majority of the 3,069 counties in this country have failed to recover. have failed to come back in the wake of the recession. they're still under water. people are still suffering here and get this.
the counties that have recovered are in states like texas, nebraska, minnesota, where fracking is allowed, energy has allowed people to come with back. i think it's fascinating that this organization coming back on the heels of the president's statement. let's look at another number that i think is critically important to consider and why so many of us are so concerned about and that's median household income. look at this. 2014, $35,657, it's below, below where it was in 2008. the president touts the jobless rate 5% but we know that the real jobless rate is something like 9.9%. look, you don't have to go far. you just have to get out of washington, get outside of new york, and you can find a lot of people who will tell you that this economy is not providing the opportunities that real people need. jobs are scarce. cheryl: right. gerri: there's not what people are looking for and a lot of
disappoint. cheryl: gerri willis from the newsroom. thank you so much. great report. gerri: thank you. cheryl: we've got to move on to the lottery now. people from all parts of the country scrambling to get that $1.5 billion jam jackpot. your odds of winning 1 and 292 million but my next guest can increase your winning. seven time florida lottery grand prize winner, learned how to increase your chances of winning the lottery. okay. tonight what do you say to all of us tonight? >> all right. everybody, people are coming out of the wood works that don't ever buy tickets because it's this great, big grand prize. so now they're buying tickets for the first time and all of a sudden they want to be president of the company in one day. it doesn't work that way. so they're looking for some magic answer. what can i do to increase my chances tonight? there is nothing you can do to increase your chances tonight. cheryl: quick pick tonight is what you're saying. >> only one thing downing and it's the worst answer in the
world but the only answer. buy as many tickets as you can afford. and that's the key. what you can afford. don't spend grocery money. don't spend rent money. cheryl: right? >> stay within your budget. cheryl: okay. i want to get some tips if we do to do other types. because i got megamillions last weekend because i know what my odds are. the powerball; right? you've got some tips for those that actually like to play the lottery every week, and these are interesting. and you say don't use the quick pick. >> absolutely. do not buy quick picks. all right. the reason why is -- first of all, people watching the show and don't know what a quick pick is, that's when you hand the clerk a couple of bucks and the machine picks it for you. don't buy quick picks because every time you do, you get a different set of numbers. therefore your odds are always going to be at the worse like you said in the intro the odds of winning powerball are 1 and 292 million. cheryl: you say play consistently, don't change the numbers, go beyond the birthdays but also know your
limits like what you said tonight. understand the odds and realize that you may not be the one and 192 people tonight that's going to win the lottery. >> examinely. cheryl: we'll see. i don't know. every reporter and anchor i think in this building is holding their lottery ticket tonight. we cannot help ourselves. we're obsessed. thank you very much. >> well, i hope you win. cheryl: me too. i'll still be here. i love my job. all right. winning isn't always good, by the way. tonight's billion dollar winner could face some public scrutiny. >> if we can't ask from society's lottery winners to just make that modest investment, then really this conversation is for show. >> 80% of all income went to the top 1%. the rich are getting richer -- >> we have been to get the wealthy and the corporations to pay more their fair share. cheryl: all right. coming up a guest who has advice for powerball's new billionaire on
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at guantanamo. it is expensive, unnecessary, and it only serves as a recruitment brochure for our enemies. cheryl: president obama vowing to shut down gitmo at last night's state of the union. this comes as the administration is stepping up efforts to reduce the prison population there. ten dainties are transferred out of the facility tomorrow only one left and white house secretary admits that some of them could be moved to the u.s. >> the president's prepared to make good on that promise and the only reason he hasn't is because he's been by republicans on capitol hill. >> if you close the prison, do they come here or go overseas? >> well, i think frankly it's going to be both. there are more of these dainties that we can transfer to other countries. if we do have to bring some of those individuals to the united states, we're going to put them in the same place where we're already housing dozens of convicted terrorists in american prisons right now. cheryl: former massachusetts senator and fox news
contributor scott brown joins me now. senator, first off, the time frame. can we do this in a year? is that possible? >> listen, the president said he was going to do things by the phone and the pen and you see once again i believe he's exceeding his authority, doing -- circumventing the will of congress and the american and people here -- cheryl, here's what the president will be notebook for. he'll be known for bringing terrorists and putting them on american soil. number one. also be known -- and i just made a couple of notes. isis, it's on the rise. his miss steps in iraq. you see what's happening with libya and the reset with russia. the fact that hillary clinton didn't designate that as a terrorist group, so many miss steps. so i think you have a problem -- cheryl: well, that's true. >> not only does he have the legal authority to do that and then do they get legal rights when they come here. cheryl: i want to stay on gitmo for a second, scott, because here's the question. we've heard that these are
very, very nasty, bad people at gitmo. >> yeah. cheryl: absolutely the minute they walk out of there that they're going to continue to fight the u.s. and they're going to continue to -- you know, the mission of murdering americans. >> cheryl, first of all, for those of you, your viewers and listeners, i served 35 years in the military. i was a colonel the last four at the pentagon. was a ranking member on homeland security. i've been to gitmo. from here to the camera i saw them, i've seen that facility, it is the best in the world in doing what it's supposed to do. which is to keep terrorists away from american soil in american captivity obviously to not only continue to interrogate and find out information but to keep these people off the battlefield. i mean that's what it's for. and he's trying to fulfill a campaign promise versus making a promise to the american people to keep us safe, which he has failed miserably. cheryl: we're looking at some of the faces and the résumes if you will of these guys and it's amazing.
neil cavuto showing you yesterday that he doesn't have much to do with who gets released. listen to this guy. >> those of us in uniform, we execute the policy, we don't make it and in this particular case the president stated policy is he wants to close guantanamo bay. all of these guys that are down there to one degree or another have been picked up on the battlefield doing very, very bad things. we have on them. we can all discuss eight, 10, 12 years of gitmo they've paid their do you see. people involved in the detention operations are not involved in the evaluation of these individuals as to whether they should go or not. cheryl: did you hear that last part? doesn't that seem crazy to you that there's a split between who vaults and who releases? >> of course it's crazy. it's a crazy time out there. the president is not running for reelection. he's trying to fulfill a legacy and a campaign progress, and he's closing a military base, which i've been to, and i support it staying
open to keep these people off the battlefield. we see them now under guard -- we'll see them again with a rifle or worse in their hands. so, yes, this is unbelievable, and i would encourage the republican and democrats who agree with me and many of the american citizens to go immediately to the supreme court and find out if, in fact, he has the legal authority to do that before they get on american soil and potentially get rights that have made quite frankly not entitled to. cheryl: scott brown, u.s. senator and i've got to say my favorite triathlete in this nation. >> thank you, cheryl. ditto. same to you. cheryl: good to have you here. well, tonight's powerball jackpot at a record $1.5 billion and my next guest can't way to vilify the winner. that's after this. >> if we can't ask from society's lottery winners to just make that modest
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financial issues. the environment we are in now, we have two politically dominant party. one called democrat, but it's not democratic, it's socialist dominated by the likes of hillary clinton and bernie sanders. this is an environment where you do not want to be a lottery winner. clairl * are rich people bad? is that what we need to figure out tonight? >> of course not, rich people are not bad. that's absurd to say. everybody -- this lottery thing has become such a spectacle. because everybody believes they can be a winner and it's just that chew. you have got 1 in 292 million
chance to win. i'm in nevada, i can't play the lottery here. cheryl: you are supposed to go to the border. that's it for me. "making money" with charles payne coming up next. charles: lot of today it laying in the market -- today i. we have a panel of expert on whether this is the part of the next recession. iran hugh mill yates america. a gop civil war shifts into the next level as the establishment uses the state of the union