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decades. it was just so -- the exchange between the fights and pulling things back a little when it got out of control, i think they did a hell of a job. >> yes. the moderators were fantastic. i'm not going to tell megan kelly you said that, though. david: oh, dear. risk and reward starts now. . deirdre: stocks got crushed at one moment the dow was trading down by more than 500 points. oil closed at a 12-year low, this is risk and reward, i'm deirdre bolton, markets sold off in europe, asia, all major embassies down more than 2%. adam shapiro with me now. so, adam, china's stock market fell overnight. it affected everything else. how much did that weigh on our sentiment? >> it's weighing quite a bit. i mean you might consider china to be jason and the u.s.
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stock market today was jamie lee curtis running from the movie halloween in 1977 here is the bottom line. investors in the united states are very worried about the global economic slow down. it translates in cheap oil. china's the world's largest consumer of oil. they buy more oil than anybody else. they're not buying it, oil prices have plummeted as there's an oil glut. you see it reflected in our stock market in stocks like caterpillar. hit a new 52-week throw lowe. $58.75 a share, deirdre and caterpillar which may not sell directly to china but sells heavy machinery to places like brazil, outside the united states, which are huge partners with china because they savings and loan he commodities to china. china's not buying because of the slow down globally, economically and that's what has investors very worried. deirdre: adam, thank you as always. adam shapiro with me there on more advice with what to do
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with your money we bring in the money managers, market bull and market bear. i'm going to go to the bull first. the counterintuitive mood. burt, are you telling your people to buy? >> we're telling people to be patient rather than buy. we think there will be a market bounce, we're looking at this upon a market correction. so we're telling people to be patient and to -- wait a few days and be coming into the market then. deirdre: jonas, volatility showing up even in fed language. dennis lock heart says if the volatility continues, he may have to revise his outlook for the u.s. economy. that's a pretty strong statement. how does that resonate with you? >> yeah. well, it's not the volatility. and interest rate cut is going to stay at this point. the bottom line is we had a huge commodity bubble that has popped. it has popped seriously and now once oil got. deirdre: and did he $35 a barrel, goodnights lead to
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major problems in the united states in broad and emerging markets. substantiating are down. many, many of these companies are going to fail. so the one thing -- because get this. now a good time to -- many of these companies are going to fail. it's just like the '08 crash that was brought down by a credit bubble in housing. this is not as widespread of a problem, but it is a huge problem. there doesn't seem to be any plan to support oil prices. we're going to be bringing more oil onto the market. it's going to lead to a lot of junk bond defaults, you want to watch that area. don't try to bottom fish commodities, it's not coming back for years. as far as the regular portfolio, you want to own some u.s. treasuries. that's your only real protection other than shorting commodities, which i've been doing. deirdre: what about the goals, jonas? >> that only pops a little during these crisis days. that is also a commodity. it's down a lot from 2011.
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almost $900, once it goes to 1,000, it's going to death spiral just like every other commodity and those miners are going to collapse just like mechanical and everything else they're getting out of the ground. deirdre: so, bert, i want to bring something that jonas said for the year. if you look at the patters, that being the market off 10% from their highs in a six-month period two times. there's only three other years that have gone like this. 1929, the year 2000 when the nasdaq tech bubble burst and 2008 the credit crisis disaster year. what does that say about the rest of this year? >> well, i think it says that the rest of this year we have to be careful. we have to be astute to see what sort of numbers are coming out. we don't see that this year is going to be a repeat of those -- those other patterns. we think the domestic economy is fundamentally strong. there's a lot of uncertainty,
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however, in investors bonds about what the impact of the global economy will be on the u.s. but on a domestic basis, we think that things are strong. consumers are in a better position than they have ever been at this point and in an economic cycle. so the fear is a lot of this is being driven by response to headline news and, you know, robert shiller made a comment -- wrote a piece last fall about the extent to markets are often driven by narratives and those narratives of those stories. and the connection we have right now between the stock market and the oil price seems to be one of those cases where there's no real rational connection for why oil prices in a decline of oil prices should drive u.s. stock markets down. it is primarily a supply condition. deirdre: right? >> less demand condition. deirdre: but there is concern of course once it goes down to a certain level that energy companies begin to lay people off. and that for the moment we're
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in a sweet spot, consumers have money more money. but at the point it goes too far. jonas, i know you have last word here. >> i wanted to -- the fact that the story was fabricated was that -- that we needed to build commodities to hedge against this inflation, that's the story that's collapsing. not the get out of this train now as it blows up. these companies -- yes, the rest of the nonenergy company is very solid. but that -- so it was, so is the consumer when the real estate market collapsed. if it spreads beyond natural resources -- and it could with no net there to stop oil from going to $10 or $15, you're going to see problems across your whole portfolio, not in just junk bonds or oil stocks or mining shares. deirdre: okay. well, we're going to keep talking about these markets. it is going to be a busy year, that is for sure. bert and jonas. thank you, both, for your differing perspectives. >> thank you. deirdre: like both sides represented. investors evaluating which presidential candidates would be best for the u.s. economy.
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we had a big night here on fox business. gop candidates participating in the first debate of the new year. >> welcome to the sixth republican presidential debate of the 2016 campaign. here on the fox business network. ♪ >> mr. trump, your comments about banning muslims from entering the country created a firestorm. is there anything you heard that makes you want to rethink this position? should companies like facebook and twitter be required by law to more actively -- be more actively engaged in fighting terror? why in your view is the president's proposal a problem? >> investors have already lost $1.6 trillion in market value. it makes it the worst start to
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a new year ever. >> hillary clinton is disqualified from being commander-in-chief. >> she might be going back and forth between the white house and the courthouse. >> i think most people know exactly what new york values are. >> when the world trade center came down, the people in new york fought and fought and fought that was a very insulting statement that ted made. >> mr. president, we are going to kick your rear end out of the white house come this fall. >> neil, thank you for a great debate tonight. >> i thought you and sandra smith did a really good job. >> there were a lot of issues you covered it really well and difficult job keeping that rowdy group under control. >> it was fantastic. a great team. >> we were elegant last time, we weren't elegant this time? >> you were very elegant. deirdre: we will replay last night's debate 6:00 p.m. this
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evening, less than an hour's time in case you didn't catch it, but right now someone who was watching closely congressman, thrilled to have you. which candidate moved the ball forward best for his or her campaign last night? >> i don't think anyone moved the ball best. i -- this was just so much fun to watch. it was one of the best debates i've ever seen, and i've been involved in politics for almost 50 years. this was just -- this was better than the game monday night when alabama beat clemson. and the timing was absolutely perfect. but i'm not sure anybody advanced the ball any for themselves. they were all good. every one of them were good. in fact, huckabee and carly and santorum were excellent. so i think if you have a candidate, you were very pleased with your candidate. but i didn't -- i don't think a whole lot of people are
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going to switch right now. deirdre: okay. >> but there's a lot of undecideds out there. deirdre: congressman, one of the tones that everybody picked up. donald trump and ted cruz clearly faced off. >> since september, the constitution hasn't changed. but the poll numbers have. >> here's are the problem. we're running, we're running, he does great. i win. i choose him as my vice president candidate and the democrats sue because we can't take him along for the ride. i don't like that. . deirdre: all right. so is this the future tone where you have the two -- let's say the bromance is over. that's the question. >> yeah, certainly the romance is over. but, you know, they went at each other in a very civil way. they really didn't get down and dirty personal. i thought it was a great exchange. and it's an exchange over an
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important issue. donald trump is right. today or yesterday a houstonian sued or brought a suit for the courts to decide if cruz is eligible. deirdre: so let me ask you, congressman, do you think then that it is actually a distraction for senator cruz and won that could prevent him from being the nominee? >> i don't know that i would go faster. i mean people accepted that -- that obama was ineligible to be president and went forward. i think that if cruz is strong enough, people may just push us aside. the constitution gets pushed aside all the time. deirdre: all right. we are glad for your insight. thank you. former republican house majority leader tom joining me there. white house press secretary josh earnest says he tuned into fox business' big gop last night. he was critical of the candidate's economic plan. we'll give you the details of
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those plans, and then you can decide for yourself. governor chris christy says president obama is out of touch with the real u.s. economy. media chairman steve forbes joining me on today's dow dive. what it says about the u.s. economy and what it means for corporate america. after this >> well, maria, i'm glad to have heard from you in the summary that question about what's going on in the world because on tuesday night, i watched story time with barack obama, and i've got to tell you. it sounded like everything in the world was going amazing, you know?
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pine for the days of herman cane but at least he had a 999 plan. it was outrageous, but at least he had an affirmative governing proposal and agenda. next to all these guys that were on the stage last night, herman cane looks like a policy wonk. deirdre: white house press secretary josh earnest saying he watched our fox business gop debate. he said not one candidate had a plan for the u.s. economy. >> it begins with tax reform. let's not have the most expensive business tax rate in the world. >> we should freeze all federal regulations for one year except for health and safety. >> it would bring money back into the united states to help build jobs for the american companies and get our economy moving again. >> the death tax is gone. we eliminate the payroll tax, we eliminate the obamacare taxes. >> a flat tax for everybody. no exemptions. no deductions. no shelters. deirdre: with his take on
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taxes tariff, what it could all mean. 1996 and 2010 gop presidential candidate steve forbes. steve, wonderful to see you. >> good to be with you. deirdre: what did you think? before we talk brass tacks and taxes and tariff. what did you make of the debate? which candidate did best? >> well, it was a substantive debate, which i think was one of the best -- certainly this season and one of the best in terms of the hall of fame of presidential debates. they did a very nice job. and in terms of people who came across, trump had his best debate ever. if you're the frontrunner, that's the time to do it. just before the caucuses. rubio and cruz did very well. they solidified their frontrunner status even though christy had a good evening, it wasn't good enough. it's like somebody who had a good time but the other player had four home runs, you only hit three. jeb bush had a good evening but it was too late. and the others did not break through. . deirdre: so i want to ask you. you ran a media corporation
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for a year. you understand corporate america. did any of the candidates make sense to you as far as what they talked about, tariffs, taxes, any kind of growth initiative strategy for the u.s. economy? >> yeah. press secretary josh earnest at the white house must have had cotton in his ears when he was watching the debate last night on had it on mute. there were a lot of substantive proposals out there including getting rid of taxes, a flat tax, corporate earnings overseas and making it possible to bring them back here without punitive taxes. so this was real substantive stuff on the table and pro growth policy proposals instead of the antigrowth ones. we're now getting from socialist bernie sanders and hillary clinton. deirdre: steve, you talked to so many business leaders, you are one. what do you think the u.s. economy needs? on a day like today when you see the dow trade down. it didn't close down, but it traded down 500 points. there's a lot of red flags about the volatility in the markets.
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concerns about china's growth slowing. what does corporate america need to feel confident, to hire people, to move forward? >> corporate america is the debate point last night. getting crushed by regulations, uncertainty about what labor is going to cost with these health care rules coming fast and furious. the financial sector is getting hit with more and more capital requirements, regulations, which hurts small and new businesses, and the job creators. so washington is doing antigrowth economic policies and we don't yet have a clear picture. yet politically if that's going to change. we saw the same thing in 1980. market was all over the place when it was clear that a good change would come. it went up, and we got the good change in the 1980s. but uncertainty breeds what you see today. deirdre: all the volatility. >> yes. and they don't have pro growth policies in here, europe, or china yet. deirdre: okay. well, maybe we'll turn a page this year, steve forbes. >> we better. deirdre: thank you very much in the meantime. >> thank you. deirdre: glad to have your insight. steve forbes joining me there.
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new cell phone video released catching the moments of when the bomb went off in jacarda. [screaming] . deirdre: officials are saying an isis militant ordered that attack. terror was a big topic last night at the fox business gop debate. colonel allen west is going to join me with his reaction. >> there is a war against isis. not just against isis but against radical terror. it is a war whether we win or they win, we're going to win this war on isis. the most powerful intelligence agency in the world is going to tell us where they are. the most powerful military in the world is going to destroy them. and if we capture them any of them alive, they're getting a one-way ticket to guantanamo, cuba, and we're finding out everything they know
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[explosion] [screaming] . deirdre: officials are saying an isis militant ordered that attack from abroad. last night gop candidates said how they would fight terrorism if elected president. >> we need to shut down their mechanism to funding and attack their commanding control centers. why should we let their people be sitting there smoking their cigars sitting in their comfortable chairs? >> our number one priority is now making sure that isis cannot get killers into the united states. >> and i understand why americans are feeling frustrated and scared and angry when we have a president who refuses to acknowledge the threat we face and even worse, who acts as an apologist. deirdre: retired lieutenant
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colonel allen west is with me now. colonel, thanks in advance for the time. did any candidates plan for fight terror -- make sense to you as a military -- someone who had boots on the ground? >> well, good to be with you, deirdre, and pretty much so every one of them had the basic framework of understanding of what needs to happen. now, of course it is the matter of putting together the right type of team that can develop that strategic level of guidance that comes from a president and then goes over to the military planner so that they can have a strategy that can be can executed from the military side. but basically you have to deny this enemy and come to the decision that this is a global jihadist movement that extends from africa and the philippines and everyone in between. so we can't just focus on a group here or a group there, we have to look at it holistically and then come up with the right kind of strategy that can defeat this enemy across all theaters of
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operation. deirdre: colonel, based on what you know about it, what it takes for our armed forces to protect us, at home and abroad, which candidate seems the best poised to deal with this new and, unfortunately, stronger terror environment? >> well, i think that you're still in the early stages of those candidates having the opportunity to flush out a very good well thought through strategy. and it's hard to do it in a debate where you only got about two minutes, maybe a minute and a half, two minutes to articulate a foundation. but i think at least with the candidates that you saw on the stage in the early debate and also the main stage debate, they do have a grasp., they do understand who this enemy is. they are willing to recognize them and the ideology. i think that when you look at the democratic candidates that you have up there, we're just going to get more of the same. and the president was very dismissive in his state of the union address referring tore isis as just a bunch of guys with beards in the back of puppets.
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that's not how we're going to be successful. so i think that we can work with any of those individuals that were there on the stage last night. deirdre: all right. well, we thank you very much. colonel allen west joining me there. glad to have your insight. donald trump and ted cruz faced off. >> since september, the constitution hasn't changed. >> if you become the nominee, who the hell knows if you can even serve in office. deirdre: billionaire trump donor ernie going to be joining me about the bromance breaking down. i know how it is. you're all set to book a flight using your airline credit card miles. and surprise! those seats sometimes cost a ridiculous number of miles, making it really hard to book the flight you want. luckily, there's a better way...
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gloves off. now, some journalist say cruz won the debate points over the birther questions. but trump not backing down. here is what he told our own neil cavuto. >> they're already saying they're going to bring a lawsuit. >> all right. so he's out as your running mate because of that? >> well, look, he's going to have to do something about it. he's a good guy, nice guy, he's going to have to do something about it. now, his professor from harvard is one of the people saying it's not settled. it's not a settled matter. others are doing worse. others are saying you can't do it because you're not wonder on the land. >> it seems you guys almost had this bromance going on but not tonight. >> well, you know, i thought he was very nice and then all of a sudden he hit me with this. i think he made a mistake. deirdre: on that point about a lawsuit, we do have some breaking news to tell you about. a houston trial lawyer has filed a lawsuit on ted cruz's presidential eligibility.
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so senator cruz born in calgary, canada to a american mother. so his u.s. citizenship not in doubt at all but the constitution does set out a requirement that the president and vice president be, quote, unquote, natural-born citizens. billionaire trump fundraiser supporter ernie with me now. so, ernie, delighted to see you in person. >> nice to see you. deirdre: second of all, you say this is right on the mark. that ted cruz should not be considered. is that right? >> well, no, i can't say that. i think he should be considered. i think mr. trump is stirring up the pot. i think it's a classic, classic move from a powerful businessman. done -- deirdre: it's what you love about trump,
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mr. trump is completely see through. deirdre: and you've known him for mr. m years. >> i know him. i've met him a few times. i can't say we're -- deirdre: what do you think to say trump is not a true conservative? because to your point trump is not packaged. he is not towing any party line. he has at times appear to have policies that would be a little bit more traditional than the democratic camp and system of the fellow republicans now are calling him out on that. >> well, i think it's really the new gop. i really -- i really think. and mr. trump, in my opinion, very conservative. i think the old conservative just isn't going to fly anymore. he's -- he's packaged it up so nice and so palatable, in my opinion, for the rest of the country. deirdre: well, i hear what you're saying. he's basically stands for what he believes in. so he's not concerned about party lines, and you have this
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feeling of authenticity. >> absolutely. and his strategies and how proud he is of america. mr. obama, what he has been doing on the world stage over the last few years is terrible. it's really, really terrible. and i think mr. trump will come in and, you know -- deirdre: you feel like it's a change. >> absolutely. deirdre: from one to another. >> absolutely, yes. deirdre: great to see you. thank you for stopping by. >> thank you. deirdre: joining me there. billionaire, businessman, also supporter of donald trump. well, trump and cruz bromance gone. we're telling you about that. former hp ceo carly fiorina called out trump's relationship with spla vladimir putin. on that note chess grandmaster is my guess next. also neurosurgeon ben carson hoping to keep it light one moment during last night's debate. >> well, i'm very happy to get a question this early on.
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i was going to ask you to wake me up when it's time -- if my mother were secretary of treasury, we would not be in a deficit situation. i said everybody. [laughter] . deirdre: all right. not everybody was in a joking mood. more of the excerpts coming up. >> jeb has actually been making fun of marco rubio for wearing a pair of boots with high heels. on the campaign trail. i think the heels help reveal a lot. i mean just take a look at the latest campaign he did without his boots on. >> our allies don't trust us. our enemies don't fear us. >> this is what he's saying. look. come on. it doesn't matter. help guide your investments through good times and bad. for over 75 years, our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions...
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that's the first time since august that happened. one of the drags on sentiment, oil. in fact, it closes a 12-year low. below pods a barrel. jeff flock with me now from chicago. so, jeff, to what extent, what factors are really pushing oil even lower? >> well, in addition to all the pre -- the previously discussed factors, two words today. china and iran. take a look at the numbers on china. it is the slowing of the growth. and there's still growth in china. take a look. last year the growth was 510,000 extra barrels a day. but this year the expectation for that growth is to be only 300,000 extra barrels a day. so still growth. but not as much growth. iran is the other one. it looks like now they're going to begin pumping as early as next week. this is a country with tremendous reserves. 10% of the world's oil reserves. 150billion barrels their daily back in 1976 before the
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iranian revolution they pumped 66 billion barrels a day. deirdre: i know there's some concerns about the quality of that oil. whether or not it is crude. >> that too. deirdre: i'm very glad to have you with me. jeff flock joining me there on a day where oil closed below $30 a barrel for a 12-year low. thank you, jeff flock. >> thank you, deirdre. deirdre: some breaking news to update you on. boston bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev has been ordered to pay $101 million to the victims of the 2013 bombing near the close of the boston marathon. largelily symbolic. he was also denied a retrial and is sentenced to death. that sentence was brought down in may of last year. turning back to the debate, candidates wasted no time in facing off against one another. marco rubio, ted cruz, two of the biggest contenders.
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here is rubio calling out cruz for flip-flopping on immigration. >> you don't get to say we need to secure the borders and at the same time try to give barack obama more authority to allow middle eastern refugees coming in. >> ted cruz, you used to say you supported doubling the number of green cards. now you say that you're against it. you used to support a 500% increase in the number of guest workers. now that you say you're against it. you used to support legalizing people that were here illegally. now you say you're against it. you used to say you're in favor of birth right citizenship, now you say you're against it. deirdre: supporter jackie with me now. jakey, thanks for joining me. what do you think about the tone from this debate last night? >> it was aggressive. i mean really saw several candidates being very willing to take each other on. and we just saw it there with ted cruz and marco rubio. you know, that immigration attack is one that rubio started i believe the last debate.
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and it really -- for a time, put cruz on the defensive on your sister network fox news had an interview where he wasn't able to even answer one of her questions about his immigration record. so there are has been some -- there are has been some damage done and both looking to take shots at each other because that's something marco rubio has really caused a lot of skepticism in the republican electorate about. about himself and his involvement in the gang of eight. so that's really been a very contentious issue between those two particular candidates. deirdre: so you mention marco rubio. he also tried to go after governor chris christy. we're going to play the clip for people who didn't see. >> i stood on the stage and watched marco and rather indignantly look at governor bush and say someone told you because we're running for the same office that criticizing me will get you to that office. it appears the same someone has been whispering in marco's
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ear too. this is the difference from being a governor and senator. being a senator you talk and talk and talk and you talk so much nobody can keep up with what you're saying it's accurate or not. when you're governor, you're held accountable for everything that you do. deirdre: so, jackie, at this point are people fighting for the number two spot? i mean what's going on. >> yeah. that's what's happening. we're looking at a fight for number two. in iowa and new hampshire to an extent. iowa is a lot -- cruz and trump tend to be out. but in new hampshire, it is extremely close between several candidates. and there aren't too many tickets out of new hampshire. and when you're chris christy and that's been sort of your plan all along is to win or do very well in new hampshire, it's -- kind of do or die for him. so he's got to make a dent with marco rubio and he's behind in the polls at this point. deirdre: he is indeed. jackie, thank you so much. joining me there from the daily beast. carly fiorina calling out
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donald trump for his relationship with the russian president putin. our next guest agrees he is going to be joining me. russian chess master gary. and democratic socialist bernie sanders could be catching up to hillary in the polls. hear hillary clinton's tonight show reaction when we come back >> the new poll says that bernie sanders is now ahead of hillary clinton among democrats in both iowa and new hampshire and even hillary's lead in national polls is dwindling. i don't want to say hillary is upset but this morning she was spotted shouting into a volcano. you said we had a deal. [laughter] you totaled your brand new car.
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>> in the fight against isis, saudi arabia is our ally. iran is our adversary and despite donald trump's bromance with vladimir putin, vladimir putin and russia are our adversary. we cannot -- [clapping] we cannot outsource leadership in the middle east to iran and russia. we must stand and lead. deirdre: carly fiorina hit donald trump on his bromance with russian president putin. former world chess champion author of winter is coming. human rights foundation gary is with me now. gary, first and foremost, it is a real pleasure to speak with you. >> thank you. deirdre: thank you for coming in. >> you have said that the current russian president, vladimir putin is like don as far as american audiences can understand, will not stop at anything for power. >> yes. we can go on but
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that's enough for a short introduction. deirdre: so what does that mean in this presidential -- we're in a presidential cycle in this country, how should candidates see putin? what should they understand about him? >> donald trump, again, shows his ignorance by suggesting that he could be a pal with vladimir putin, and he could make a deal with him. putin doesn't make deals that don't suit him. so he knows how to deal with people who are trying to make deals with him. like, he tells you former german chancellor because putin's policy, it's repression, it's for an aggression, corruption, and america and the world, they need a president who will not try to make friends with iran or putin. but someone who can stand to
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him. deirdre: so essentially you are saying that to think anyone can negotiate in this idea that a common compromise or middle ground will be met will be severely disappointed. >> look, you know, it's -- you have to negotiate. i mean the diplomacy is still a very important tool. ronald reagan did negotiate. but he knew that there were certain values that he had to protect. deirdre: and the way that you're describing each leader, the implication he's a very different leader than putin, am i right. >> yeah. but what's very important is that he's been dealing with a different kind of leader who was in charge of oval office and who was a leader in the free world, ronald reagan, who knew how to deal with common. and, unfortunately, we are in the debate about, you know, making deals about america sort of going back -- basically following obama's lines. so ted cruz can sound very different from obama but at the end of the day, you know,
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he and donald trump are suggesting different version of the same policy. america retweeting. deirdre: who would be the best president from what you've seen? you can change your mind later. >> the only one who can carry the shield of america as a global leader, it's marco rubio. i mean he talks about the very important issues, ends foreign policy, and he believes in what he's saying. this is quite important. i'm not, you know -- i'm not trying to promote, but i believe that, you know, next -- next u.s. president will have to restore the credibility of oval office. the credibility of these great country and also of the free world. and, you know, the next president will have to deal with emboldened enemies of the free world. putin, with iran, with all sorts of terrorists that are now quite encouraged by america. deirdre: gary, please come
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back. i would love to continue the conversation. gary joining me there. in the meantime author of winter is coming. hillary clinton told jimmy fallon she wasn't too hot on seeing last night's fox business republican debate. >> last time you were here was the second republican debate and tonight is the night and you're here again. >> is that a coincidence? >> i think you're trying to get out of the watch the debates. you'll do anything not to watch the republican debates. >> yeah. i think you nailed that. deirdre: last night's candidate, well, they brought up her name a lot. >> unlike another woman in this race, i actually love spending time with my husband. '. kind of like reunions equal blatant lying. the company is actually doing really well on, on social media. oh that's interesting. i - i started social media. oh! it was my...baby.
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