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three days from now the democrats will debate just a few miles away. here in the city older than the country itself, from the revolutionary war to the civil war. to the war of either shore. south carolina prepares once again to take center stage and the republican candidates know the spotlight of the palmetto state will shine on them. >> good evening and welcome to the north charleston performing arts center. tonight you will hear from 10 republican candidates vying to
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become president of the united states. i'm trish regan along with my co-mod p -- -- co-moderator sandra smith. sandra: for the next hour three of the candidates will be answering questions voters want answered. trish: former hewlett-packard ceo carly fiorina. former arkansas governor mike huckabee. and former pennsylvania senator rick santorum. this debate will last one hour. each candidate will have up to the 0 seconds to responds to each -- up to 90 seconds to respond top each question and one minute for follow up. when your time is up you will hear this bell. in tuesday's state of the union
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address the president said our economy is strong and said millions of jobs have been created. what else your after he saysment of the economy right now? i would like to hear from all of you on this one, beginning miss fiorina. >> if i may begin by saying how honored i am to be standing here with two former iowa caucus winners. governor, senator. and how honored i am to be talking with all of you. i am not a political insider, i haven't spent my lifetime running for office. the truth is i have had and have been blessed by a lot of opportunities to do a lot of things in my life. and unlike another woman in this race i love spending time with my husband. i'm standing here because i
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think we have to restore a citizen government in this country. i think we have to end crony capitalism. the crony capitalism that starts with donald trump and hillary clinton. hillary clinton sits inside government and rakes in millions, hands out access and phase and donald trump sits outside government and rakes in millions buying people like hillary clinton. the state of our economy is not strong. we have record numbers of men out of work. record numbers of women living in poverty. young people who no longer believe the american dream applies to them, we have working families whose wages have stag night for defend kids all while the rich get richer. the powerful get more powful and the wealthy and well connected debt better connected. citizens, it's time to take our country back. [applause] sandra: governor huckabee, same question to you. where do you see the country right now?
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>> i wish i saw the country in the same place the president presented it to be in the state of the union. he talked about how great the economy is doing. i guess for the people he hang out with it's doing great. the president should have stood in a line at the layaway counter at walmart just before christmas. we have heard a different story. i wish i could have introduced him to the lady to cleans the building where our campaign headquarters is located. her name is kathleen. she works all day at a local hospital cleaning, then she goes to a bank and our headquarters where other offices are. she works 15 hours a day. i guarantee you she is not working 15 hours a day because she loves scrubbing toilets and sweeping floors. she is working that's hours because that's what it takes for her to maker it work.
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and she is not alone. there are people all over this country working like that. and they used to have one job and that would take care of them. but because of wage, stagnation which we have had for 40 years, because they are punished for working harder. the government gets more of their second shift than they do. as a result, there are a lot of people hurting today. i wish the president knew more of them. he might make a change in the economy and the way he's managing it. trish: senator santorum? >> all has to do is listen to the democratic debate and find out about how bad the economy is. all they do is talk about how america is struggling so badly that they have to make radical changes in washington. they have been in control for the last 7 years. what have we seen in the most important jobs that fill the middle for the 74% of americans
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who don't have a college degree twent age of 25-65, are manufacturing jobs. your governor and legislature have done an amazing job of bringing manufacturing jobs back to south carolina. right here. right here. in charleston. right down the street with boeing. you have done a great job. you have grown this economy and strengthened the center of your state. the middle. if you are going to create wealth and opportunity you have to get good paying jobs for everybody. two million manufacturing jobs have left this country because of barack obama. regulations, epa, workplace regulations, things driving people offshore all because of his number one priority. global climate change. let me tell you this, mr. president. for every dollar of gdp, china
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create five times as much pollution as we do here. you want to lower global climate change, bring those jobs back to america and let american workers do that job with less pollution. sandra: moving to the world stage, the middle east is on the brink of chaos. iran continues to provoke the united states, north korea claims it's tests a hydrogen bomb and afghanistan is in danger of falling back into taliban hands. critics of the administration say it's due to lack of u.s. leadership. to you miss fiorina, how do you have see america's role in the world today? >> america must lead because when we do not lead, when this exceptional nation does not lead, the world is more dangerous and a more tragic place. barack obama, hillary clinton,
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john kerry, they all refuse to lead. worse, they refuse to respond when this nation is revoked. hillary clinton famously asked what difference does it make how four americans died in benghazi. here is what difference it makes. when do you not stand up and say the truth, that this was a purposeful terrorist attack and say the united states of america will retaliate for that attack, terrorists assume it's open season. we refused to respond to every provocation. the president wouldn't even mention the fact that iran had taken two navy boat and our sailors hostage. he didn't mention the fact that they violated the geneva convention. he didn't respond to the fact iran launched two ballistic missiles in direct violation of a deal they just signed. we didn't respond to the fact that north korea attacked sony pictures.
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when we refuse to respond over and over to provocation and bad behavior, we'll get more provocation and bad behavior. i know most our allies personally and have met many of our adversaries. when we'll not stwand our alleys and respond our adversaries and lead in the world, the world is a dangerous and tragic place. i will be a commander-in-chief who will lead. trish: senator and tore up conflict between saudi arabia and iranv has escalated after allegations that iran bombed the how would you mitigate the
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historic promises to iran. >> the historic promises we made in this deal with iran need to be torn up on the first day as president. iran has already torn it. you. iran has not aproved agreement president obama said they approved. they approved a different agreement in their parliament. the fact of the matter is they violated this agreement. carly just mentioned some of those violations. they launched ballistic missiles and tested them in clear violation. the president announced they would impose sanctions, then president rouhani said there would be retaliation. what did we do? we backed down. ladies and gentlemen, there are 50-some citadel cadet in this
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audience tonight ... i want to ask them to stand up if they will. i want to tell each and every one of them as they stand. here is what i want to tell them. whether it's you watching that movie this weekend that just came out where we abandoned our men and women in benghazi or whether it's we treat iran that gave courtesies to our sailors as they made them record a hostage video, let me tell you this. if you choose to serve this country, i'll have your back. i will not let american be tram tramples upon any more by these radical jihadists.
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sandra: governor huckabee, in afghanistan the taliban is strengthening, attacks are on the rise and thousands more civilians have been wound or killed. much of the surge can be the withdrawal of i.s. forces. you say you see no end game in sight. what then is your solution to the growing conflict. >> when i went to afghanistan i saw a land that looked like the land of the flynt stones. it was desolate, barren and primitive and it's been that way for thousands of years. they want to take it world back to be just like that. we don't. we need to make a clear goal as to why we want to be anywhere in the middle east. i'll tell you why we want to be and need to be, is to destroy radical islam and everything that threatens civilization.
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it's not just a threat to israel or to america, it's a threat to he civilized person on this earth. and we need to be equipping not only the kurds in iraq, we need to be making sure that those willing to fight radical muslims will do it. but we need to never ever spend a drop of american blood unless there was a clearly defined goal, and we can't make sure we win unless we have a military that's the strongest in the history of mankind. we have got to rebuild our navy. it's the smallest navy since 1915 when my grandfather got on a destroyer in world war i when he was in the u.s. navy. we have young men in air force b-52s that his father flew in the 80s and his grandfather flew in the 50s. those plane planes are older th.
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we have to have a military the world is afraid of. use it sparingly. but the whole world will know america is on their tail. and they will never rise up again. sandra: .we need to be in afghanistan? >> only if there is a concerted effort to destroy the advance of radical islamists who are against us. as far as what we are going to make it look like? i don't know what we can make it look like. you can't create for other people a desire for freedom and democracy. and that's not the role of the united states. the role of the united states military is not to build schools and bridges and not to go around and pass out food packets it's to kill and destroy our enemy and make america safe. that's the purpose we should be there if we are going to be there. trish: miss fiorina, nearly 600
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women say they were attacked in a german city on new year's eve by a men of arab or african descent. and 45% were sexual assaults. 22 of those 32 men arrested are asylum seekers, are you worried about similar problems in the united states? >> of course i'm worried about similar problems in the united states. we cannot alowf refugees to enter this country unless we can adequately vet them and we can't. therefore, we should stop allowing refugees into this country. and we don't need to be lectured about why we are angry and fearful because we have had an illegal immigration problem for 25 years in this country. politicians stand up in election
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after election and promise to fix the problem, yet it has never been fixed. i offer leadership that understands actions speak louder than words. we must secure our border and enforce a pro american immigration system that serves our interests. not rest of the world's. i understand what it takes to translate goals into results. that's what i will do as president of the united states. of course we've should be worried. this administration has now told us they don't know who has overstayed a visa. this administration told us they don't even both to check facebook or twitter to finds out who is pledge allegiance to jihadis. we can do better than this, citizens. we need to take our country back. trish rsh i want to stay with you on this.
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the world shares a common enemy in the way of isis. we all agree isis is a threat and it must be stopped. during world war ii the world manned with josep -- joseph stao fight the nazis. everyone agrees we need a coalition to fight isis. do you have agree with that and if so would your coalition include russia and iran? >> we need to be clear eyed now about who are our allies and who are our adversaries. in the fight against isis saudi arabia is our ally. rains our adversary. despite donald trump's bromance with vladimir putin.
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vladimir putin and russia are our adversary. we can not outsource leadership in the middle east to iran and russia. we must stands and lead. the kuwaitis, jordanians, egyptians, the kurds, i know virtually all of these nations and their leaders, and they have asked us for specific kinds of support. bosms, intelligence. we are not providing any of it today. i will provide all of it. we have am lies who will stands up to help us deny isis territory. they will help us do this and yes we need a coalition. but only the united states of america will lead such a coalition. but we must be clear eyed through this fight. iran is our adversary, russia is our adversary. we can never outsource our leadership.
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>> welcome back to the republican presidential debate. on to the next round of questions. sandra: senator santorum. president obama urged technology leaders to make it hard for
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terrorists to use technology to escape from justice. hillary clinton says social media companies can help by the companies say they are already working with law enforce and any proposed legislation would do more harm than good. should companies like facebook and twitter be required by law to be more actively engaged in fighting terror? >> if we were doing a better job within the government we wouldn't need the private sector to do the things we are asking them to do. i have had a little experience of this in the private sector and i found a government with layers and layers of bureaucracy. people who had technical expertise, but they had no authority. one of the things i found is a if a lot of people have authority, nobody has authority. and if you don't do anything, you don't get fired it many only when you do something and
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something goes wrong that you get fired so they do nothing. that's what's happening in our defense department. we have a capability to play defense. we have a lot of tech no jifts whdtechnologists. we don't have war fighters. we have technologists. how do i protect cyber security. how do we go after them? how do we respond? we need leadership that's willing to make sure when they are attacking us all day every day, private sector companies all day every day, they have to learn they will pay a price when they do so. right now just like in every other aspect of our national security. people who attack us are not paying the price. we need a leader who will make sure they know when they mess
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with america they will pay a price. sandra: would you require anything of those companies like facebook and twitter if you were president. >> facebook and twitter can teach us things. we can cooperate with them and share information. this is a dicey area for the government to require the industry to do its job. it needs to develop that capability. we need responsible dialogue, but i don't think requirements are the order of the day. trish: fist fiorina. the president issue offed an executive order to -- has issued an executive order to expand background checks. the majority of americans are in favor of background checks. it's the poll data. >> we believe the poll data all
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the time, don't we. [applause] trish: why in your view is the president's proposal a problem. >> it's yet another lawless executive order. he doesn't like the fact that congress rejected his ideas twice on a bipartisan basis so he thinks he gets to override them. sorry, mr. president, that's not the way the constitution works. secondly he basically admitted that he hasn't been paying much attention to enforcing the laws we have. he said gee we need a few f.b.i. agents. that would have helped stop a tragedy here in south carolina. in president, you are right. we need to even 40s laws we have. let's enforce the laws we have. there are criminals running around with guns that shouldn't
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have them and we don't prosecute any of them. i want to go back to the technology issue. in this regard i disagree with senator santorum. there is one thing bureaucracies don't know how to do. they don't in how to innovate. we have come 7 generations of technology since 2011. we have bureaucracies incapable of bringing that innovation. there are specific things we should have the private sector to help us with including making sure we have the latest and greatest algorithms so we find terrorists before they attack us. and we need a president who understands technology in the oval office. mrs. clinton, actually you cannot wipe a server with a towel. [applause] trish: miss fiorina you said
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when you were ceo of hp you worked with the government. >> i was asked very specifically for some very real help. the help i was asked to provide, this is now public information. so i'm not revealing something that once was classified. we had a large shipment of equipment, software and hardware headed to a retail outlet. and i was called by the head of the nsa who had an urgent need for that capability to begin laying out a program to track terrorists. we turned that truck around on a highway and it was escorted to the headquarters of the nsa. in world war ii our government went to the private sector and said help us do things we cannot do. the private sector has capability the government does not have. there are some legal authority that are required. the sony attack could have been detect and repelled had legal authority been passed in congress allowing public and private networks to work
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together. those legal authorities have not been passed. i was asked to help. i know the technology industry, they will help again. but they must be asked by a president who understands what they have. sandra: governor huckabee, you called president obama's executive orders on gun control unconstitutional and completely insane. >> yes, i did. sandra: you even told gun store owners to ignore the president's orders. innocent people are dprieg gun violence in cities like detroit, chicago and charleston every day. is there anything that can be done at the federal level to prevent guns from falling into the hand of criminals? >> why don't we start by making sure the justice department
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never does an idiotic program like fast and furious where the u.s. government put guns in the hand of mexican drug lord that ended up killing one of our border agents. they want to talk about law-abiding citizens. the president says the gun show loophole. there is no gun show loo hole. i promise you i have been to more gun shows than president obama. and you fill out forms. the president says it's easier to get a gun than groceries. i purchase guns and i can assure you it is much more difficult to purchase a firearm than it is to get the ingredients of a salad at the supermarket. but the president keeps pushing ideas that have never worked, ideas that would not have stopped san bernardino, sandy hook, aurora. if you keep retrying thing that don't work, maybe we should just
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see if we can resell all those used lottery ticket that didn't work real well because that's the lock i can of keep doing the -- that's the logic of keep doing one thing that has failed. the common thing in mass shootings is they happened in gun-free zones where people who could have stood up and tried to stop it were not allowed to under the law. trish: governor huckabee, an american in san bernardino murdered 14 people while terrorists with belgium and french passport murdered 130 people. we are facing a threat within our borders and from outside the united states. those our mean terrorists could have come here at any time, given that we have a visa waiver proper that enables people to travel back and forth. it exists with those countries and 36 others.
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if countries around the world including many in europe cannot insure that their citizens are not jihadists will be why are we waiving the visa requirement at all? >> we shouldn't be. that's one of the reasons there are a lot of voices in our country saying it's time to relook at the visa program. the european union is a failure. it has not even aloud for the economic goals they were trying to achieve. now it's making europe less safe and it's proven not to be exactly what they although it was going to be. our first and foremost responsibility in this country and the first responsibility of the president of the united states is to protect america and protect americans. we have a president who seems to be more interested in protecting the reputation and image of islam than he is protecting us. and i want to be very clear,
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when this president makes comment like he did that we have to be careful because we don't want to offend muslims. he needs to read his own f.b.i. crime stats from last year that will show him of the hate i'ms in the country, 1,100 were religious hate crimes. and 58% were directed sphoard jews. only 16% were direct toward muslims. maybe the president should have talked about how we ought to be more careful in the anti-semitic comments going to american jews because by three times as many they are being targeted for religious hate crimes. trish: if you get rid of the visa waiver program does it shut down international commerce? >> it does not shut it down but it may slow it down. a slowed down commerce that
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makes us safer is worth it. a lot of americans didn't buy it when the president said we'll bring in syrian refugees but don't worry, we'll check them out. we have a lot of confidence in a president who said we can keep our doctor and health insurance and it will cost us less. and now the latest is if you like your gun you can keep it, too. we don't bite. he has lost his inept capability to pass legislation led him to do what i never imagined doing as a governor. than that's just doing it my own way. that's why we elect a president, is to lead and shepherd things through. if i can do it with a 90% democrat legislature in arkansas. there is no excuse for any president not to lead in washington if he knows what the heck he's doing when he gets there. sandra: senator santorum.
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many of our military leaders believe america's critical infrastructure is vulnerable to a terrorist attack. this is the power in our homes, the water we drink. the internet and phone system by which we stay connected. if attacked, these essential services that underpin american society could come to a grinding halt. do you have a specific noon protect us from this type attack. >> the most devastating attack that could occur would be an electromagnetic pulse attack triggered by a nuclear explosion in the upper atmosphere of our country. the best way to prevent that is to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon so they can't explode that device. the president of the united states has put iran on the path
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to a nuclear weapon. there is a bill in congress that would put money forward to try to put redundancy and harden our select grid south could survive an enp. it's a devastating explosion that send a pulse that knocks out all electric. everything that's connected, that's wired, a circuit board gets fried out. everything is gone. cars stop. planes fall out of the sky. this president has done nothing, number one to take the most probable person -- most probable country to launch an attack and stop them, and has done nothing to defend us. particularly our electric grid. i put the original sanctions on the iranian nuclear program when i was in the united states senate. i have been fighting for 12 years with one thing in mind. we must stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
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because they are different than every other country. they do not want a nuclear weapon to defend themselves. they want a nuclear weapon for theological ends to bring about the end of the world. that's the most serious threat facing this country right now. sandra: senator santorum, moving to jobs and the economy. in his state of the union address president obama touted his record on jobs citing 14 million new jobs and boasted of nearly 900,000 manufacturing jobs added in the past six years. do you dispute his track record of creating jobs? >> the jumps just don't add up. they have not added manufacturing jobs. manufacturing jobs have been lost in this country, 2 million of them. this president has done more to take jobs away from the hard-working people struggling
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the most. folks the 74% of americans who don't have a college degree. they are talking about providing free college for everybody. nobody is focused. let's just be honest. nobody is focused on the people struggling the most in america today. let's talk about the president's immigration plan. he wants to bring more and more people into this country. almost all of the people here illegally and most of the people who came here legally over the last 20 years, they are working in wage-earning jobs. we have unfortunately two political parties with most of the candidates in this field for some form of amnesty and allowing people to stay here. even though they are here illegally and for increasing levels of illegal immigration.
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we need to send people back. let me make one point. i was in storm lake, iowa near a tysons plant. 91% of the kids that go to the elementary school are minority kids. they said what are you going do with all these kids, their families. >> i said i'm going to give them a gift of being able to help the country they were born in and i'm going to export america, the education they received. they learned the english flank wage and learned about capitalism and democracy. you want to stop the flow of immigrants, let's send 6 million back into their country so they can start renaissance in their country so they won't be coming over here anymore. sandra: former chairman of joint chiefs admiral mike mullen said the greatest threat to our security is our national debt.
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our national debt is on pace to top $19 trillion. yet you as well as miss fiorina have laid forward no plan to reform entitlements. how can you say you are going pay down our country's debt without cutting social security or immediate care. >> social security is not the government's money. it belongs to the people who had it taken out of their checks involuntarily their entire lives. for the government to say it's the fault of working people we have a social security problem. no, it's the fault of the government who uses that money tore something other than protecting those people's accounts. here is the fact. i sometimes hear we'll have republicans say let's take people work until they are 70. that sounds great for a white collar person who sat at a decks
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their whole lives. have you talked to someone who stood on a concrete floor their entire working life? they are virtually tripled because they worked hard. 4% economic growth, we fully fund social security and medicare. it's not that it's too generous to seniors. our problem is our politicians have not create the policies that would bring economic growth. i still support strongly that we get rid of the 77,000 pages of the monstrous tax code. pass the fair tax. super charge his economy with the rocket fuel that happen with the consumption tax and we don't have to cut social security to any senior who has worked their lifetime for it. trish: we are going to continue this conversation. we are taking a quick break.
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>> welcome back to the republican presidential debate live from north charleston. sandra: let's get started with miss fiorina. the middle class represents 50% of the u.s. population, down from 61% back in 1971, according to pew research. the same research reveal as widening income gap, the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
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what will you do to strengthen a middle class that is no longer the majority. >> for decades professional political class has been talking about the middle class. for decades republicans in particular have been talking about reducing the size and scope of government. but for 40 years the government has gone the bigger and more expensive. we have a 75-,000-plus page tax code. politicians running for office for decades promise reform and all the while wages stag night. when government gets bigger the rich get richer and the boor get boorer and the middle -- the poor get poorer and the middle class gets squeezed. who creates jobs? small businesses, family owned businesses. new businesses.
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they create 2/3 of the new jobs. i started out typing for a 9-person real estate firm. we are crushing small businesses and destroying the middle class. let us first actually reform the texas code from 73,000 pages down to 3. there is a 20-year-old plan to do exactly that. then let us begin piece by piece to focus on every single dollar the government spend so we'll spend less overall and still have enough for our priority. examine every dollar, cut any dollar, move every dollar. i call it common sense. citizens, we have got to take our country back. governor huckabee. it used to be you could graduate from high school * and get a pretty good job at the local
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factory, enough to take care of your family and yourself. those days seem to be gone. hard to do that these days. businesses are increasingly turning to automation to increase productivity levels. it's happening at the boeing factory in north charleston. the president says automation threatens workers' abit to get higher wages. do you agree with that and do you have a solution. >> the tax system punishes people trying to get ahead. if you work really hard and start moving up the economic ladder, you get bumped into a different tax bracket so the government thick it deserve more of your hard work than you do. so it's one of the reasons no matter how many reforms you have on people productivity. you are taxing their saving, capital gains, you are taxing
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everything that produces something. that's why i believe it's time to do something bold. not something minute. this is no time for a tap of the hammer and twist of the screwdriver. that's why the fair tax transforms our economy. it's the on the way we'll get middle class people moving ahead again. because the harder they work, the more they keep. one of the most important part, it's built on the common sense with which we raids our kids and trained dogs. you reward behavior you want more of and punish behavior you want less of. that's how i raised kids. it's how i traingd our dogs and it's not that difficult. we punish the behavior we say we want more of by taxing it and reward the behavior we say we want less of. if you make a good investment we punish you with a tax. if you make a bad investment you
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can write that off and the rest of the taxpayers will subsidize you and bail you out. trish: senator santorum. 40% of babies born today are born to single moms. that's twice as high as reported in 1980 and 11 types as high as 19 -- 11 times as high as 1940. studies show children are always better off in a house with two parents in the household. should the government be doing anything to encourage family formation. >> the right and the left are coming to agree with me. i have run around doing 300 town hall meetings talking about a book written by a liberal harvard sociologist named robert putnam.
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he wrote this book to support the democratic argument that the middle of america is hollowing out and the rich are getting richer. when he studied the information he realized the the biggest reason we are seeing the hollowing out of the middle america is the breakdown of the american family. if you are a single -- a child with a single parent and you grew up in a single parent family neighborhood and went to that single parent family school. the chance of you ever reaching the top 20% of income earners is 3% in america. i don't know about you. but that's not good enough. if we weren't so politically correct because we don't want to offend anybody. to fight for the lives our children. you read the first few chapters of dr. putnam's book. he talks about port clinton ohio
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and how poor kids survived and did well. but he go to the towns today and these kids are failing miserably. they don't have a shot. and we won't even have the courage to have leadership at the federal level within not with legislation. but the most power full tool the president has, the bully pulpit to encourage each and every one of you. to have a national campaign to rebuild the american family and give every child its birthright which is a mom and dad who loves them. that will change this economy. ♪ i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type
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. moderator: welcome back. it's time for the closing statements. candidates will each get one minute, starting with senator santorum. >> thank you very much. i want to thank the people of charleston which has become a little bit of a second home for me, because i'm very privileged to have two young men who go to the citadel, my son john and my son daniel. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, america's frustrated and angry and they're looking for somebody who's a fighter, but i also think they're looking for somebody who's a winner, somebody who can take on the establishment and make a difference, and take on someone who's going to be the person who's going to be between a republican holding the presidency and that's hillary clinton. and there's one person in this stage, one person in the race who's done it and done it repeatedly. i've taken on hillary clinton
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on the issues you care about, partial-birth abortion. google rick santorum and hillary clinton and you'll see a five-minute debate. i'll let you decide who won the debate. i'll tell you who won, i know i'm out of time. i'm going to take some of rand paul's time here for a second. [cheering and applause] >> if you're looking for someone who fought hillary clinton on iran sanctions, she was one of four a deciding vote who skieded against iran sanctions. i fought battles against her. in 1994 i ran against the clinton machine, james carville and paul beggala ran the race against me when i took on the author of hillary care, and each one of the battles i won. you want a fighter, you want a winner, i'd appreciate your vote. thank you. moderator: thank you, senator santorum. [applause] >> governor mike huckabee. >> rick, i'm sure i did fight
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the clinton machine because every election i was ever in, in arkansas, i assure you they were behind it helping finance and campaign for every opponent. and i share with you the understanding that it's going to be a tough battle. but i spent the first half of my adult life in the private and nonprofit sector raising a family, understanding how tough it is for people to make it, and that first half of my life is what led me to believe that america needs a different kind of leadership. not people who spent their whole life running for one office to the next and living off the government dime, and i got involved because i got sick of what i saw. i also believe that there's got to be some leadership that not only addresses the monetary and military issues of this country, but the moral, of this country. at the end of every political speech, most of us say god bless america. but how can he do that when we continue to slaughter 4,000 babies a day?
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and i want to be the president that treats every person including the unborn, as a person, and protect them under the 5th and 14th amendments of the constitution. i close with this word from a gentleman in east texas named beutel lucre. he's 100 years old and i met him in east texas and he said this to me, i sure wish, mike, we had the days when the 10 commandments were in all of our capitols and in every school, and we prayed again. you know, he may be 100 years old, but i believe some of those old ideas to get this country back where we unapologetically get on our knees before we get on our feet might be the best solutions we've ever sought as a country, and i ask for your support, and your vote. thank you. [cheering and applause] . moderator: thank you, governor.

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