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benefits. david: more than benefits, there is security. i use one card that provides a lot of security. i would rather have the security than the benefits. am i wrong? >> depend how much credit card debt you have. that is my view. david: bernie has about $65,000 worth. >> whoa! david: that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts right now. >> for a religious leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful. i'm proud to be a christian. as a president, i will not allowed christianity to bees consistently attacked and weakened like what is now being done by our current president, believe me. [cheers and applause] no leader, especially religious leader should have the right to question a man's faith. they're using the pope as a pawn. they should be ashamed of themselves. that is the mexican government. they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so, especially when some lives are involved and what illegal
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immigration so rampant and so dangerous and so bad for the united states. okay? period. that's it. deirdre: donald trump is in a war much words with the pope. it is not just about besting other presidential candidates such as senator cruz or jeb bush. this is "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. pope francised questioned donald trump's christianity while trump visiting the mexican border , the pope, actually, some strong words. here they are. a person that thinks only about building walls and not building bridges is not christian. i only say this man is not christian. this heated exchange started when donald trump appeared right here on fox business. >> pope is a very political person. i don't think he understands the problems our country has. i don't think he understands the danger of open border we have with mexico. i think mexico got him to do it because mexico wants to keep the border the way it is because they're making a fortune and
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we're losing. deirdre: donald trump may have more to say about the pope or immigration or both. we're monitoring a rally happening this hour in gaffney south carolina. we'll bring you there live as soon as it starts. with me, presidential candidate, former new york governor george pataki. great to have you here. >> good to be with you. deirdre: as everybody knows you do openly support senator rubio. >> correct. deirdre: i want to ask you with trump taking on the pope, has he help or hurt his campaign? >> donald trump the victim who would have thought it. going after late teen knows and women and all of sudden is a victim. you notice in the clip he is reading well-scripted response. this is not donald trump reacting out of true umbrage. this is donald trump reading a script because he thinks it is in his political interest. donald trump is not a victim.
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i don't think the pope should have said what he did. deirdre: i was going ask you. >> i think the pope was wrong. i say that as good catholic. he is infallible when it comes to religious doctrine but when it comes to politics he should leave it to the american people. deirdre: even the pope has emotions. >> what is troubling to me, mexico has some of the most restrictive immigration laws in the world. yet the target is america. every single republican candidate, marco rubio believes we have to secure our border. we have to make sure people come here legally just as mexico does. i don't question donald trump's faith but his ability to be president. deirdre: which is far more important. >> far more important. deirdre: trump says he will be far more tougher on isis the pope would want donald trump in office. here is the comment. >> when the vatican is attacked by isis which as everyone knows, is isis's ultimate trophy, i can
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problem is you the pope would have only wished and prayed that donald trump would have been president. deirdre: you were the governor of state of new york on september 11th. >> yes. deirdre: you led the state during that attack. what do you make of trump's comments during this context? >> i think they're just ridiculous. it is trump reality tv campaign show that will come to inevitable conclusion he will be fired by the american people and hopefully by the republican primary voters. i think it is just wrong. we know new york is a target. we know civilized world is target of isis. the person laid out most constructive plan how to deal with isis is marco rubio. what is donald trump's plan? he loves vladmir putin. doesn't bother to say when vladmir putin weighs in on american elections. does when the pope does. it is all about trump. i don't believe that i believe it is about the american people
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and future of this country and that's why i'm for marco rubio. deirdre: hold that thought. we want to let our viewers know this saturday we'll be lear. we'll have live coverage of the south carolina primary. also nevada democratic primary. that starts six p.m. eastern time. lew dobbs, neil cavuto will bring results as soon as they come in. those events are supercharged. so is the latest conversation about privacy and security. there are split opinions whether apple should unlock the itch phone of one of the san bernardino shooters. a 2015 court case shows apple worked with the government before. in fact the company unlocked iphones for the feds 70 times in the past. it stopped now because it may tarnish the brand, other reasons as well. fox business on top of it last night. >> prior to 2014 apple was helping government crack into iphones to catch suspects. they work with banks to do terrorism financing.
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why is silicon valley not involved? deirdre: going back to 9/11. you steered the state along with rudy giuliani and michael bloomberg who was incumbent at that time. should apple say yes to this one particular case although they say they can't? how would you -- >> not a question of what your opinion is, because a court has issued an order. a united states federal court told apple they have to reveal this information, assist the fbn dialing with -- fbi dealing with san bernardino terrorists. their value hinges on rule of law hadn't licks wall property. if another company says we'll ignore a federal order because we don't like it. because it might harm our company, what would apple think? apple has to comply with the law. broader than that, i think silicon valley has to understand we're concerned about privacy. when the federal government, fbi goes out to get a court approved warrant because they believe that there is an imminent threat
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of a terrorist carrying out an attack against americans, that they have got to comply with that warrant. deirdre: so, governor, let me ask you when you say complying g with the laws, maybe there needs a new law, that a law could be passed specific to these kind of situations. >> right. deirdre: apple doesn't feel like it is betraying it is customer base. >> right. deirdre: or doesn't feel like it is creating dangerous precedent to be used in sillier instances like divorce case. i'm totally making that up. >> totally understand. apple is right to be concerned about the privacy of its users but not in the face of court order. not apple's decision that there has to be different law. deirdre: i heard. >> you if the court says directs you to do it, you have to do it. not because the government asked but because the court ordered. i agree with you, new law specifically dealing with encryption and coded material on iphones or on computers would solve the problem.
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given our congress and this president and lame duck status, that will be hard to achieve. meantime fbi and federal court believes hitting law gives them authority. it is up to apple to follow the law when a court orders it. deirdre: clear an simple. good to see you. gaffe pataki with me there. security experts estimate that apple could create software needed to unlock the iphone used by one of the san bernardino shooters. a expert is with me right now. you're chief technology officer for rsa, that is the nation's one of them anyway, oldest computer security companies. i know the company does contract work for the department of justice. in your opinion is it possible for apple to comply with what the court has ordered? >> i believe technically feasible for apple to comply
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with the court order. just because it is technically feasible doesn't mean it has to happen. it may be technically feasible for me to ride my bicycle without a helmet through a light. which need to separate questions of feasibility from whether or not it is good idea. deirdre: you are in the tech community. there have been numerous other tex execs came out in support of apple ceo tim cook. notably ceo of microsoft. notably ceo of alphabet google saying they sport his decision because it would set a very dangerous precedent. what is your take? >> rsa every day we're trying to deal with some of the most pernicious threats that affect our customers on a daily basis and one thing we realized if we weaken a system in any way, shape or form, to allow a good person in there is a huge risk that same weakness can be then exploited by a bad person. not just about giving the keys of the kingdom to your friends. the more keys you give out, more likely those keys can fall into the wrong hands. that is something we have to be
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very, very cognizant of. in many ways i think what apple is concerned with opening up pandora's box if you will, or appropriately pandora's iphone in this particular case. deirdre: that is what tim cook seems to imply. thank you so much for your time. glad to have you with us. nsa chief michael rogers says last year's deadly attacks in paris would not have happened if they did not have encrypted communication tools. we'll tell you how that relates to the apple. donald trump is at rally in south carolina. he may have more to say about the pope. we'll bring you the event as soon as it start. >> the pope said mass today in mexico. as many as 200,000 people were expected to cross the u.s.-mexico border to hear him speak. and the pope pulled off his mask, said gotcha. now you're back in mexico. [laughter] adios, amigos.
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>> harder for us to generate the kind of knowledge that i would like against some of these targets? yes. is that directly tied in part to the changes that they're making in their communications profiles? yes. does encryption make it much more difficult for to us execute our mission? yes. deirdre: nsa chief michael rogers saying that last year's deadly attacks in paris would not have happened if terrorists did not have encrypted communications which helped them obviously avoid detection. protesters out today siding with apple's ceo tim cook saying it is not possible to unlock the iphone of one of san bernanadino shooters. >> you should have the ability to protect it and the only way we know how to do that is to encrypt it. why is that?
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it's because if there is a way to get in, then somebody will find a way in. there have been people that suggested that we should have a back door. but the reality is if you put a back door in, that back door is for everybody, for good guys and bad guys. deirdre: a lost iphone users a-- lot of eye phone users agree with that statement. >> apple is standing up for our security, where our data is safe and a world where we can't count on our data being safe is important to millions of people around the world. >> if you create a golden key, a back door to every iphone that is something so valuable, that you could imagine or easy to imagine malicious hackers, identity thieves, any number of people trying to gain access to it. it is so valuable, it is not a question of if it is going to be, if someone will wiped up being in possession of it. it's a question of when that happens, how many damage will be
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done. deirdre: with me now, catherine, glad to have you here. with he see this tension between tech and governments. how will we figure this out? >> i think the approach that apple has been take something fantastic and it's a rare moment actually to see a company sticking up for what's right and, also, being pretty explicit about the fact at that they're doing in fact to protect their own bottom line. apple said explicitly, our customers need to trust us and they will not trust us if we hand over data even if we do it just once. deirdre: they said terrorists will find other ways to communicate. i want to ask you about reaction to breaking news because senate intelligence committee richard burr, working on a proposal would create criminal penalties for companies that don't comply with court orders to decipher encrypted communications this is according to "the wall street journal" is this necessary or part of the solution? >> you know i think the idea this is a criminal offense is
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part of the probably a much broader issue about overcriminalization. it's absurd to think that tim cook should be in jail standing up for a completely reasonable legal principle of privacy. the idea somehow this is an occasion to use brute force of the criminal justice system strikes me as absurd. deirdre: our own in-house legal eagle expert judge andrew napolitano weighed in earlier on "fox & friends." here is his clip. >> i'm convinced it is a, it is a business decision. so what can the fbi do? the fbi can hire apple engineers away. the fbi can hire the brightest people in the country to figure out how to do this but can't conscript apple. >> right. >> the government can't take you. sandra, you will work for us tomorrow whether you want to or not. fbi went into court in secret without apple's lawyers there. even though there is legitimate court order signed by a federal judge, it is probably invalid
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because apple was denied due process, basically their day in court. deirdre: that brings up interesting legal angle, does it not? >> sure. the judge is right here somehow it is appropriate or consider it a reasonable way to approach this very complex question the government goes to court and says, apple, you work for us now. you know, i think that is clearly a dangerous precedent to set. and, when the feds say as they are saying in this case, oh, it is just this once. we're going to ask you, very important -- just this once. deirdre: very important. >> you know, never believe the government when they say it is just this once. deirdre: never agree with minute minute -- everyone. katherine, thank you, tom r for coming here. >> thank you. deirdre: donald trump starting a rally in south carolina. we'll bring it to you when he starts. he may have more to say about the pope. >> here is donald trump quotes
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about the pope earlier. pope is being told donald trump is not a nice person. i am a very nice person. and i'm a very good christian because the pope said something to the effect maybe donald trump isn't christian, okay? and he is questioning my faith. i was very surprised to see it but i am a christian. i'm proud of it. deirdre: with me now fox news religion contributor father jonathan morris. >> wow. deirdre: so glad to see you first and foremost. >> thank you, deirdre. deirdre: what do you make of this? donald trump fighting publicly with the pope? >> i understand why he would go back after the pope with the -- he didn't start it because, it was journalist who asked the question, right? but, i think the pope actually made a mistake here and i think knowing him, and knowing the vatican, i think he is going to clarify or apologize tomorrow for not saying that he believes his values on immigration are unchristian, because he does. mass deportation of 12 million
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without thinking about families or anything else? that's i believe, immoral. i believe it is unchristian. i think the pope does as well. but the pope said something that i think he will regret, not regret look say, oh, i didn't mean to say that. i think what will say -- deirdre: comment on the person, not the idea. >> if he said that donald trump said these things journalist said he is not a christian. deirdre: not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. >> benefit of the doubt he didn't say it. deirdre: i believe it gives everybody wiggle room. >> if he says those things, baptized christian according to theology of the pope he is christian. might not be a good one. none of us are good christians. that, to say he is not a christian, we try. deirdre: the effort. >> he could have said, oh, i think his values on this issue or this policy unchristian, but not, if he said this he is not a christian. deirdre: father i have to ask you before we go, a lot of
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people are saying look at vatican. there is a wall around it. why is the pope not connecting with this idea. >> fair enough. that was built in the middle ages. it wasn't pope francis, hoe -- oh, my gosh. he wouldn't dare to do that. if he knocked down those walls, archaeologists, everyone would completely -- to be fair, anybody can walk into the vatican. it is called st. peter's square. that is the vatican. not 100% covered by walls. you can go into the vatican. according to donald trump he will send 12 million people away, just like that, no questions asked. get out of here. if you broke the law, get out of here. hey, the government, united states government under both parties has foreyears said, hey, we're giving you tacit invitation to come and work. we'll have a porous border. once you get over here we'll give you a job. deirdre: our own -- >> of course. in other words you have
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responsible to injustice not only to the american people but to immigrant who have come over here illegally. deirdre: father jonathan morris, please come back. >> thank you. sorry i'm all excited. if i wind up in vatican jail tomorrow morning i would ask you come bail me out. deirdre: i will bake awe cake with a file. >> that would be great. at least in the vatican they serve pasta in jail. i'm pretty sure. deirdre: father jonathan morris. great to see you. do not forget to tune into fox business this saturday. we are here. we have live coverage of the republican south carolina primary, nevada democratic primary. starts 6:00 p.m. eastern. lou dobbs, neil cavuto will bring results as soon as they come in. we're waiting for donald trump. he will probably have more to say about the pope. we'll bring you that event live right when it happens. meantime billionaire richard branson will join me with a new announcement. find out, what it is first on fox business. that is right when we come back. tell you about a new poll, that shows senator sanders won big
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i thodid the ancestrydna toian. find out i'm only 16% italian. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about. >> deirdre: a new quinnipiac poll says voters back democrats over
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a margin of 4-10. the republican who got closest to beating sanders is john kasich. gillian, is this poll realistic? >> i think there is a lot of goodwill for sanders right now. i think people are open teen alternative, particularly in an election where you have candidates like trump run hog have such high unlikability. i can see this being realistic. deirdre: basil, how worried should hillary clinton be given the fact that the only
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republican who would not beat her is donald trump. >> i don't think she should be worried per se. if anybody had told me this would be a tough race, even against an unnamed republican. but as we get closer and closer and voters start looking at the folks running and their potential solutions for the country. i think hillary clinton's points of view, i don't think she is scandal driven. i think the issue is experience. deirdre: that is debatable. i want to get to these figures. five left-leaning economists say there are problems with the spending plan of bernie sanders. they have say the numbers don't
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remotely add up. another the economist says it's like rainbows and flying puppies. how much does it hurt bernie sanders' campaign to have leading economists target his plan. >> so little of the election cycle is road in reality. we have donald trump saying things that are completely unrealistic all the time and people are eating it up. i think bernie sanders is following in that same trend. deirdre: we are going to continued the conversation in a few minutes. john stossel will be taking a deep dive into the remaining republican field win owing out his winners and losers. trump may have more to say about the pope. we are going to bring you his
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events live as soon as he starts speaking. also president obama's record-setting $4 trillion budget. general ma. >> 2016 is a you wil you will ie year for us. the signs are out there. they are flashing red. i don't understand why the president went from $600 million down to $330 million even though he put $12 million other programs. that money is to focus on cities like new york city, particularly new york which is our most vulnerable city. i can't understand it. deirdre: finds out which programs new york city's police commissioner says will be cut and decrease safety in the big
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and click to activate your within. >> we assume they will be out of 400, 500, 600 people that get released, a handful of them will be imbittered and engaging in anti-u.s. activities and link up with potentially their old organizations. deirdre: four years after the release of the detainees, the man you are looking at now was usama bin laden's top aide an has appeared in numerous
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propaganda videos, including a 50-minute lecture calling for the takeover of saudi arabia. this former guantanamo bay detainee back at work as a terrorist. 20% do find their way back to terror. how should the u.s. be handling the situation if gitmo as it has been declared is closed? >> gitmo shouldn't have to close. we ought to be able to keep people like him with a relationship with bin laden going back to the 90s. we shouldn't be closing gitmo. my concern is the president is getting ready to go to cuba to meet with castro. the president said when he was running for election in 2008 he was going to close gitmo. i don't believe he cares what
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the repercussion are. i think we'll find excuses for closing gitmo. this man is now a member of the leadership in the arabia peninsula. when these guise are released, that country has a responsibility to keep an eye on him. his lawyer was contacted and asked what he was doing and his lawyer said last i heard he was driving a taxi in sudan. deirdre: we thank you as always for your input. trump may have more to say about the pope commenting on his faith. we'll bring you trump's comments right as his event starts. president obama not attending justice scalia's funeral saturday. this will be the first time a sitting president skips the
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funeral of a sitting justice. also, billionaire investor and entrepreneur sir richard branson will join me. he has a new announcement to make. it's a first on fox.
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deirdre: days away from the south carolina primary. donald trump holding one of the final rallies. we'll listen in. >> you call up a lobbyist and they go see the senator. it's amazing. it's amazing. it's horrible. deirdre: slight technical difficulty there, but we'll bring you back to that event in south carolina. as you recall earlier, there was a war of words between donald trump and the pope. the pope saying the idea of building a wall, something donald trump has often spoken
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about between mexico and the u.s., is unchristian. donald trump shot back saying he did not think the pope should be making comments on donald trump's personal faith. we'll get you back to that event in south carolina. we want to let you know the white house is confirming president obama will not attend the funeral for supreme court justice scalia. this is a decision that puzzled some much president obama's allies. it will be the first time in 60 years a sitting president skipped the funeral of a sitting justice. the president will go to the supreme court friday to pay their respects. one place the president is going, cuba, next month.
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gillian, vice president and joe biden are catholic as is justice scalia. does he not want to be a distraction. >> it looks weird. it's shameful he's not going. if you think back to 2008, he said he was going to reach across the aisle and was going to listen, especially when we disagree. now we see hip slieght a man who was a good patriot and served his country. maybe president obama can learn from ruth bader ginsburg. >> that argument is premised on this belief, this assumption he's not going for political reasons. he has spoken to the family from what i understand. you don't know what was said between the family members and
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president in terms of maybe the family did not want him there. >> this is a distraction, though. this not going is a distraction. >> the distraction is being discussed among other people who want to politicize the fact the president is not going saying perhaps this is one other example. and i think that's an argument that cannot and should not be made. >> it has to be made. this president has been incredibly divisive. it's the time for unity. i think fit had been a president who had more of a history of reaching across the aisle -- deirdre: gillian and basil, i thank you both. the second set of winners of an historic jackpot have been
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see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. deirdre: donald trump is holding one of his final rallies in south carolina. >> the people our country are amazing people. they are amazing people. we have such bliefnable potential. in fact make america great again, that's great. about two weeks ago i started saying, maybe great than ever before. i really mean it. we have to get into the regulations and lower taxes. the taxes are crazy. we have the highest taxes in the
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world. pfizer, the pharmaceutical company. big company. it's leaving it many moving to ireland because of taxes and because they can't get their money. they have corporate inversions. they are leaving the country, and some of them are leaving to get their money. we have trillions of dollars outside of the country. the democrats agrieft should be in and the republicans he grow it should be in and they can't make a deal. and they can't make a deal because we have a president who mass no leadership ability. it would be so easy to make a deal. i think i could make that deal in 10 minutes. they have $2.5 trillion. they don't know what the hell they are talking about. it's like $5 trillion.
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they can't get the money into this country. if they did they could use it for development and build companies and spend it on so many things. we can't get tonight. and all the politicians agree. you could sit them down -- it's so fast, i could make a deal so fast. but we have people, it not their thing. so the companies now are leaving to get their money, their billions of dollars. they have billions of dollars, they are leaving to get their money. it's impossible. bureaucracy is horrible. the tax rate is insane. there noise incentive to do it. but we could do it so easy and we would have all of this money pouring in. and this is was we are going to do. karl icon endorsed me, and they will all endorse me if i want it. nobody knows who they are. the guy is worth $3 billion and
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nobody ever heard of them. but they are great negotiators. we want to use tour great negotiators to deal with china, vietnam, india, mexico which is killing us at the border, mix koa is killing us at the bored and killing us in trade. carrier is moving out of our job, moving to mexico. somebody had a cell phone going where the cell phone is taking the shot of the boss saying we are closing up, we are moving to mexico. not going to happen with me. i will say the following. i'm sphap free trader and hate to say this. we have to have smart trade. i don't even call it free trade anymore. we don't free trade with china. think of this defend certain. it a different way. we'll have a trade deficit with china of $505 billion.
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what kinds much deal is this? that means they are sucking us dry. in the history of the world what comiena has done to us is the singerle greatest theft. the greatest theft in the history of the world. i thereof china, the people are great. i made a lot of money dealing with china. the biggest bank in the world is a tenant of mine in manhattan. has 400 million customers. anyway, they are a tenant of mine. they definitely pay their rent on time, believe me. but i sold tens of millions of dollars of condo to the the chinese people. the bank of america building which i own a big chunk of in san francisco, i got it through china. i deal with china. china is fine. but their leaders are too smart for our leaders. so we are losing in trade
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deficits, we have more than $500 billion, not million, billion dollars. this has been going on for years. not as high as that, but it's been goin going on for years. we have no growth. our country has no growth. and you hear about that phoney jobs number where it's 5%. first of all we have so many part time jobs. i know people who worked in a company for 30 years. because of obamacare they have been put on as part timers. and they go get a second job. probably people in this audience. so if you don't qualify for obamacare, they don't want to get involved with obamacare because the premiums are going from 25% to 50% up. and you look at what's going on.
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it's so out of control. obamacare is going to die in '17. unless the republicans give it another life raft. it's crazy what's going on. but it's so bad, and do people here have obama care? raise your hand. who does have obamacare? i keep hearing people have obamacare. does anybody here have obama care? isn't it amazing? deirdre: that's donald trump at a rally in south carolina days before the primary speaking about obamacare and talking about big moves. the founder of virgin groups richard branson kick off a series of events around the u.s. the goal, bringing together the most brilliant business mind sharing what it takes for a business to thrive.
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sir richard branson is with me now. great to speak with you. how do you think these event are going to be useful? >> we had won in detroit, and it went really well. i think america is very excited. the amount of young people want to go start off in business, want to be entrepreneurs, want to create thing that will make a positive difference in other people's lives. we are getting together a group of people like the head of groupon and judge the best idea and chair a bit of advice based on the experiences we had. deirdre: i know you personally believe business is an adventure. in your decade as entrepreneur and investing legend.
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what is one quality you see in common with successful founders? >> i think the most -- one of the most important things is an ability to bring out the best in people. to motivate people, to genuinely care about people, to praise and not criticize people. to be a good listener. i think the best people -- business people, are people who are listening to the people who work for them, rather than just listening to themselves all the time. deirdre: listening skills. well note, sir. you have run huge businesses for years. you know what it' like in the hot seat. apple's tim cook is there now. he does not want to give terrorists the same encryption
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keys as the rest of us. he says it violates apple's privacy. how is he doing? >> i like tim cook tee normously. i have tremendous respect for him. i think he's taken a month -- taken apple forward from the steve jobs days. he unified his staff and got them committed behind him. and it was a tough task. but i think he's doing really well. the product from great. i have got one in my back pocket right now. they are i think he accepting bits. so i have hats off to him in -- deirdre: how much a part of
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conversation where you are today, what you saw in detroit, has to deal with encryption and security, whether it's for commercial purposes or safety ones? >> i'm not sure this particular conference will deal with this. to be honest it's a kind of thing. we need good engineers to make sure nobody can tap into my iphone or my computers. and it's a subject matter i don't know a lot about. i'm not sure i can add anything to it. dewere but i'm sure you will hear a lot of ideas. while check back with you in a few weeks. when you look at the elect season in the u.s. and you see all kind of candidates, which one do you think is best for
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business? >> oh .dear. i'm trying to avoid getting drawn into the american election season which seems to go on forever and ever. and in great britain it's a three-weeks from the time they announce elections to the time the elects are had. derequire' much more merciful for the families. >> it the more customersful for everybody, i think different' much more merciful for everybody, i think. i think there are some good candidate there. i'm not going to get drawn into which ones. nearer final time i might put my hand up and say who i think should be president. deirdre: you are welcome to do so here.
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in the mean type we wish you the best of luck. business as an adventure. virgin group founder and chairman billionaire businessman sir richard branson. we are seconds away from a new poll release. charles will have it for you right now. charles: breaking news. a fox news national poll has donald trump leading the pack. here he is at 36%. ted cruz second at 19%. trump also had when it comes to white evangelical christians, his support is dropping precipitously. also when it comes to very conservative primary voters, cruz is overtaking trump. on the democratic side, hillary clinton is definitely feeling the bern.

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