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how lazy could you be. david: cheerios. grew up on cheerios. male coco puffs are not. david: that is is it for "risk & reward" starts now. >> all the intelligence community talk about, sound an alarm, because we see increasingly in our national security work and bureau as significant criminal responsibilities in our increasing situations where we can not, with lawful court orders read communications of terrorists gangbangers, pedophiles, all different kinds of bad people. >> this would be bad for america. it would also set a precedent i believe many people in america would be offended by. it is in our view the software equivalent of cancer. deirdre: the battle between the fbi and apple rages on but something about their stories
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just doesn't add up. welcome, to "risk & reward." i'm cheryl casone in for deirdre bolton. fbi director james comey testifying in front of the house intelligence committee, hammering apple saying that all he wants is to unlock one of the san san bernanadino shooter's i phones. tim cook is fighting back. saying fbi wants him to develop the equivalent of tech cancer. who is telling the truth colonel, appeal filed to motion to vacate the search warrant. he says tim cook is distorting the entire issue especially during the abc interview. is he? >> first off, cheryl, i don't know where it will go. there will be high powered
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lawyers on both sides of this case taking whatever they can get until they get to the verdict they want. i think tim cook is all about business. i don't think he is about protecting america like fbi director comey is. this is business matter to tim cook and now to google and microsoft who apparently are joining in with amicus briefs in support of apple. reality is, i distrust government as much as anybody does but i don't distrust government's desire to safeguard and protect american citizens. at the end of the day, that is what this is about. cheryl: i have to say, it was a brief that reporters were given. one of the things apple said, this demand violates apple's first amendment rights against compelled speech and discrimination. that screams supreme court to me. i want to go back to director comey to see what the difference he says the court is actually asking apple to do, versus what apple said. listen. >> in the case in san bernanadino, the judge, the federal judge has ordered the maker of the phone to do two things.
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that is, disable the auto erase function on the phone, so that if the fbi is trying to guess the pass code to the phone, it doesn't automatically delete the contents essentially after the 10th try. and second, to disable the delay between tries functions. so that if we're going to try to guess the code, it doesn't take years and years and years but instead we're able to do it in minutes or in hours. >> they want us to develop a new operating system that takes out the security precautions. if one of the bad guys knew that that existed, think about the target that is? everybody would want that operating system, because you could get in -- it has the potential to get into any iphone. this is not something that should be created. cheryl: this is a war of words. comey said it would be software to unlock the one phone. apple would keep the software in house. tim cook doesn't seem to think
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any of that is acceptable. who is right really at end of the day here? many americans seem to side with law enforcement but you know, cook is bringing up a very interesting point here about security and privacy. >> yeah, well that is why he is trying to sell more iphones and why other companies like microsoft and google like i mentioned are trying to get on board. that looks great for consumer out there. i listened to geraldo lay it out nicely on "fox & friends." he made a great point. why doesn't the fbi hire apple to do what the fbi needs. get out information from one phone and safeguard and protect americans? chairman, two weeks from now, month now, whatever, there is a terrorist attack kill as number of americans it is determined later perpetrates the attack had relationship with san bernardino terrorists who is responsible? who is guilty? apple or law enforcement? i would say apple is. cheryl: technology attorney i spoke with off the record said look, what is to stop the chinese government, the russian
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government, from going after apple if they see the u.s., you know go in, infiltrate, pell their system, there are a lot of sides of this. apple engineers are developing new stronger encryption method for icloud back ups and iphone security. they want to counter the fbi unlock request. department of homeland security jeh johnson was warning against this listen. >> i think we need to be in a different place from where we are now. i think in response to the demands of the marketplace, a lot of tech companies have driven deeper and deeper towards encryption. that has in fact hampered, federal, state and local law enforcement. cheryl: colonel reports say this new encryption would make it so apple, they couldn't even hack themselves. i mean it would make it so difficult like in the san bernanadino case. isn't that a blow to law
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enforcement if they do develop this technology? >> it's definitely a blow to law enforcement, cheryl. look, it is this fine dividing line between the security of users, everybody sealing products want users to feel totally secure and security of everyday average americans. for most of these guys at apple, microsoft, google, whatever is notion of terrorism is abstract thing. they haven't yet been victims of terrorism. they read about it. see something about it. they watch the news. hear all the hubbub. none of them have been victims yet of terrorism. that is the changing factor. if you went to the san bernanadino families, relatives of victims would say yes, we want to get in there. if you went to victims or families of 9/11 victims, let's all get in there. i understand ted sorenson, representing attorney for apple, his wife was killed. i watched the airplane's last 10 seconds of flight. i understand. of course apple is his client, excuse me.
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so he last a vested -- has vested interest in support apple. i wonder in the back of his mind when he really feels. it'sa fine line. it will take congressional action to pair it up. cheryl: god forbid something happens to apple, one of these technology companies. we don't know what terrorists are planning. that's why frankly i believe we need access to the phone. apple hired one of the key developers of signal. they are a secure encryption messaging service edward snowden uses. here is what the developer tweeted. he said i'm delighted to announce i accepted an offer to work with the security team at apple this summer. what does that mean when apple hiring same guy that helped out edward snowden? edward snowden loves him. >> that notion of encryption and putting up barriers and walls between government and hackers is big, big business. likely to get bigger for everybody. we'll go back to the notion congress will have to act.
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if we have to set up barriers to make sure foreign countries can't get into the technology developed here we have to do it but cheryl, we'll all pay a terrible penalty at some point if law enforcement don't have ability even under court order to ferret out some of these bad guys are trying to do, who they are communicating with because that is our only safety. cheryl: attorney general loretta lynch defended the attempt to unlock the apple phone. i want you to listen to this sir. >> if the government needs assistance of third parties to make sure the search is conducted judges all over the country, even supreme court, parties must insist if reasonably within their power to do so and that is what we've been asking. cheryl: reasonably within their power. apple's attorney defending themselves to fox business. listen to this, what they told us. >> we just don't do that.
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>> those victims sir, you can legally argue the point and do eloquently and forcefully. they want answers and right now we're stuck in this circle of arguing constitutional privacy rights. when on that phone might be the very, the very identities of those who might be plotting something even -- >> you were talking about a parade of horribles before. everybody can say that. there will be terrible things happen. >> we have the horribles. we already have the horribles on this phone with this guy. >> number these, i'm just saying that we have to have principles. we have to have balance. by the way, the court specifically set a briefing schedule. we're filing briefs, both the government and apple are filing briefs. there will be a hearing in a couple of weeks. let the magistrate judge decide that. if we're successful, as i believe we are, the government can appeal that. but let the legal process take its place. >> do you think we have to kind kind of time? do you think we have that kind of time? >> don't say, i take it what
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you're saying we throw the legal process out, we forget about congressional authority, we forget about the balance of powers in this country. we forget about the bill of rights because we want to do something right now. cheryl: okay. so colonel, here's my question. was it right do you think for the doj, the fbi, to go to the courts? i mean here's the problem. they, after congress didn't initially act quickly enough they go to the courts. doesn't this mean to you this just strings this whole thing out? it might go to the supreme court and we don't get answers off one phone or in new york city 170 plus phones that could lead to us criminals and arrests and maybe stopping terrorists? isn't that what is happening here? >> that is what is happening, cheryl. in the optimum solution apple would have come to the fbi, look, quietly, behind closed doors we want to help you because we know it's a big deal. apple and other technology companies have been known to work behind the scenes with the
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government before but in this case once again apple is trying to drive sales up. apple is let it is consumers know that they're right there the with consumers. nobody will get into their privacy and nobody will have access to it. they're willing to take it all the way. i give credit to the government in this case. typically our government is very reactive instead of being proactive. in this case i think the fbi, the department of justice, are appropriately being proactive in trying to make sure we can get in there and undermine terrorists or people with bad notions, bad ideas, or bad plans. cheryl: this is going to be years, this could be years in court. we, by the way need a supreme court justice. >> yeah. i would dare say it is going to move faster than years t could be years. look there is another thing here. why don't we have members of congress standing up right now introducing legislation? because ultimately legislation is probably going to drive the results of this argument. cheryl: bill cowan, great to have you on tonight. great to have you on sir. >> thank you, cheryl.
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cheryl: colonel bill cowan. let's move on to politics. donald trump surging ahead of super tuesday. a new poll showing he is now even ahead of marco rubio in rubio's own home state, florida. yeah. coming up, the man the "huffington post" says is responsible for donald trump's popularity. americans for tax reform founder grover norquist. hi, grover. he will be right back with us. >> we're going to do very well in ohio. we're beating the governor. that's good. that is always nice to be beating the governor. and michigan, the whole thing. i mean it's going to be an amazing two months. [cheering] we might not even need the two months, folks, to be honest, all right?
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>> of course if you listen to the pundits we were not expecting to win too much and now we're winning, winning, winning the country. [cheers and applause] and soon the country is going to start winning, winning, winning. we get greedy, right? now we're going to get greedy for the united states. we're going to grab, and grab and grab. we won with highly-educated. we won with poorly-educated. i love the poorly-educated. cheryl: donald trump is basking in his success of his anti-government message. my next guest has been called by "huffington post" the man responsible for donald trump end quote. americans for tax reform, grover norquist. you're responsible for several reasons for donald trump. did you agree with the article? because every other candidate went after tax cuts and tax cuts, nothing else, donald trump emerged because he said, wait,
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let as discuss immigration, let's discuss jobs, let's build a wall. what do you make of the article? >> it was a little bit odd. the good news all the republican candidates committed public toy oppose any net tax increase, taking tax increases off the table, all the republicans because democrats all want to raise taxes. they all came out for very strong, pro-growth tax reforms that are tax reductions. trump has a very strong plan to have a 15% business tax instead of 35. rubio goes to zero capital gains. cruz takes the rates down and flattens them. they all have good tax plans. actually all republicans are running as low tax good guys. they have all got policies on reducing spending and so on. it was a liberal who's mad all the republicans oppose tax increases and that trump, who's been doing quite well is very strong in that zone as well. cheryl: okay. back in august of 2015, you know
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"the washington post" had an article, titled it nearly all the gop candidates bow down to grover norquist. do politicians need your blessing and does donald trump now have your blessing? i believe he does. >> the tax issue is the most powerful issue throughout american history, going back to the american revolution. people have always been focused on taxes as a central question. so the tax issue is very powerful and the republican party has become the party that will not raise your taxes. they may make other mistakes but they will not raise your taxes. and that's been a very powerful tool. it is why 23 states have republican governor in both houses, republican. eight states in addition have both houses of the legislature republican. state by state republicans are sweeping the nation because they're the lower tax party. that bothers people on the left and trump is in thecenter,
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right with the rest of the party, on being for lower taxes. cheryl: he is really hitting home runs with other topics. that seems to be driving him with the gop. jed 2012 gop presidential mom neat was on -- nominee with neil cavuto. he suggested there is a reason we haven't seen donald trump's tax return. listen to this. >> we have good reason to believe there is a bombshell in donald trump's taxes. >> what do you mean? >> i think there is something there. either he is not anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is or hasn't been paying the kind of taxes he was expected to pay or perhaps he isn't giving money to the vets or disabled like he has been telling us he has been doing. cheryl: that was yesterday with neil cavuto. trump responded in a tweet. here is what he said, quote, mitt romney who was one of the dumbest and worst candidates in history of the republican politics is pushing me on tax returns. dope. romney responds, of course on
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twitter, me thinks the donald doth protest too much. show voters your back taxes. grover, what do you think? >> it is an interesting question. i actually tend to think people should have privacy on this issue. but the other point is, given how obama and koskinen so politicized irs they have been already looking at donald trump's taxes and they would be leaking them if they thought it would be helpful. i don't trust mr. obama's irs would not violate the privacy of trump or anybody else. we'd know that they have been doing that with other people. cheryl: well, grover, you know certainly tax, money, economics, jobs. it is all on the table. it will be a fascinating year. grover norquist. thank you very much, grover. >> good to be with you. cheryl: donald trump is getting greedy after last night's big win. listen. >> i'll tell you what we're going to do, right? we get greedy, right? now we're going to get greedy for the united states.
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we're going to grab and grab and grab. [cheers and applause] cheryl: i said greed did i. there you go. be sure to tune in this saturday to see if hillary gets greedy as well. lou dobbs kicking off our coverage of south carolina's democratic primary at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. that is followed by neil cauto. you do not want to forget this coming tuesday, it is super tuesday, 12 states voting that day. fox business bringing all day coverage including results that start that night at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. all right, the president, holding a meeting today with his national security council on our counter isis campaign. you're looking look at a live picture from the state department. we're awaiting comments from the president. we'll monitor what the president has to say about isis and anything newsworthy, we'll bring it to you of course. well, republican governor brian sandoval weighing in his his possible supreme court appointment. find out what he said.
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cheryl: we are getting more breaking news on the apple story. the department of justice responding to apple's filing that happened this afternoon. they want to vacate the court order to unlock san bernanadino's shooter's phone. here is what the doj just put out. here is the statement, the justice department's approach to investigating and prosecuting crimes remained the same. the change has come in apple's recent decision to reverse the
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longstanding cooperation in complying with all risk act orders. department attorneys are reviewing apple's filing and will respond appropriately in court this is according to a justice department spokesperson. that was released to fox business. i want to bring in eboni williams. i want to get your initial response to this because this has been something we have never seen before, this fight between privacy, tim cook, and government. >> sure. cheryl: this is something you're following closely. >> very closely. this is a classic privacy rights security balancing test. that statement you read, cheryl, the department of justice calling out what they are seeing hypocrisy of apple. when it was behind closed doors, years of cooperation, 70 plus phones are unlocked and in the scope. now that it is public, tim cook and apple taking different position. this is where the courts will step in. people say this could go to the united states supreme court,
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but, look, ultimately i don't think tim cook does himself any favors taking a broad position. once this scope is narrowed he will have to open the phone to some degree. cheryl: one thing i want to reiterate the government is using the all risks act forcing apple to do this. what if they don't follow this? how big of a threat is this. >> it's a huge one. court orders are binding, once it comes from a judge it is binding. for any reason you defy that you're looking at contempt. it looks like really could tim cook end up in jail? that is a huge leap right now, ultimately, cheryl, yes. contempt of court is a real thing. ultimately this is why, this is the leverage game we play in the law until the legislation catches up with the technology going on here. cheryl: we obviously brought in to talk to you about something else. wanted to talk to you about supreme court nomination process. your legal brain was perfect on this, eboni.
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>> perfect. cheryl: you're following reports last couple days, brian sandoval, governor of nevada, picked by white house to replace justice antonin scalia. then he puts out a statement today, which i got to say was pretty interesting when i saw it cross, thank you but no thanks. i have reached out to the white house, said thank you, but no thanks. i'm flattered. what do you make of that? that was kind aftershock to me, not wanting to be a supreme court justice. come on? i don't know any supreme court justice but know several appellate. that is daunting thing going through confirmation hearings. i can't envy the governor, unless you're really committed to that thing i can understand it. but for the white house he was very ideal pick, right? you get to tie hands of mitch mcconnell, you're saying -- cheryl: republican governor. >> this is republican governor. he is against obamacare. he said that he would overthrow obamacare but for you not even consider him and is in your own
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party, what does that say about your leadership? i certainly think politics very much at play here. cheryl: eboni, great to have you. eboni williams, great voice on all things legal. great to have you here. >> thank you, cheryl. cheryl: after trump's big nevada win, china, yes, china has a warning, for the outspoken republican presidential candidate. wonder why? find out what china said after this. >> what china has done to our country is the biggest theft and greatest theft in the history of the word. this is what i want to hear. give me china. give me china. did you ever see china's stone. china. china. china. china. we don't win anymore. when was last time we won? we lost to china. >> president obama announced plans to close prison at guantanamo bay, cuba. [applause] not to be outdone, donald trump
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here is one i didn't want to hear. give me china. did you ever see china's tone? >> we don't win anymore. when was the last time we won? we lose to china. cheryl: after trump's win in nevada china started to show some concern. yesterday the chinese government gave a warning to the u.s. to not adopt currency policies that could disrupt china-u.s. relations. what are your thoughts on this. all you have to say is china. >> i suspect it's the new establishment. it will help boost trump in the polls. it reminded people of all the things trump has been speak out against. and especially for those voters who are concerned with lots of jobs because of things being
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outsourced. it gave fuel to the fire. cheryl: we played that romney bombshell before saying trump had to open up his tax returns. ted cruz comernltsd on romney's comments. >> a lot of people speculate he hasn't made as much money as he says. but who knows because he hasn't released his tax returns. but i think mitt has a good point that the voters are entitled to know because if there is anything in there, the democrats will go to town on this. cheryl: trump insults romney on twitter and ted cruz responds, that's a great idea. >> anyone trying to attack trump will only make this situation worse for themselves. every time they do this, all
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those voters who are firmly behind trump say that's right, that's why i support him. i think they do themselves no favor by saying things like that. it's interesting cruz started to jump on that band wagon. i think there is ways people can go after trump if they don't like him. but the reality is we spent almost no money on the right trying to do so. cheryl: this a new quinnipiac poll showing trump rb * is crushing marco rubio in florida. donald trump humble as ever. >> i'll tell what you we are going to do. we get greedy, right? we are going to get greedy for the united states. we are going to grab and grab and grab. cheryl: trump leads rubio 44% to 28%. but ted cruz of texas trailing
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at 12%. this is florida. what happens if rubio loses florida? >> it's a slap in the face. the thing is, every time we are surprised by this is when we realize people in washington and new york and the media, we don't get it. the reality is there is not one single trump voter out there. there are people who are highly educated and less educated. the reality is there are a lot of people angry with the status question. so it doesn't matter if they are in florida, nevada or virginia. the more the media says i can't believe this is not happening, the more it draws people out to the poll to the support him. i think that's something we all have to take to heart. cheryl: , sabrina schaeffer, you will be back with me later in the show.
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as you know, donald trump wants to build a wall. >> they are going to pay for the wall. we have a trade deficit with mexico. they will pay for the wall. they will be happy about it. i'll talk to them. they will be thrilled to be paying for the wall. cheryl: tune in tomorrow morning. maria bartiromo will be interviewing the former president of mexico. a brutal black lives matter attack on a decorated marine veteran blinds sided by a black lives matter protester while he was eating dinner at mcdonald's. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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cheryl: an overflow of support for the marine veteran viciously attacked in washington, d.c. last week. a gofundme page has raised over $42,000 for the decorated marine. chris, i want to go back to that night, if you don't minds. you are minding your own business. they come in and say to you, something to the figure of do black lives matter? is that what they said before they attacked you? >> that's correct. they asked me that exactly if i believed in that movement, the black lives matter movement. i was ignoring them because the way they approached me was confrontational and i felt they were trying to intimidate me. and that angered them and they
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started to call me a racist. and that's when they assaulted me is a was exiting mcdonald's. cheryl: we played the video, it looked like a vicious attack. how are you feeling? >> because of the great support i'm getting from across the country and random americans i have never met before, that's helped tremendously. but i'm not going to lie. it's hard for me to watch that video because it's out there now. so just -- it just brings up a lot of emotions. a lot of it is anger. it's kinds of hard to explain. it's just hard to watch it sometimes. cheryl: i'm curious what you said to the police that night. they arrested the two teenagers but they can't charge them with a hate crime. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm not going to lie. i was not as surprised just
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because of my skin color, i think, and because the people that attacked me were all african-american. it doesn't fit their type of narrative they want to portray in the media. it probably explains why the mainstream media hasn't reported on this at all. it adds to the anger. all i want is the same protection as everyone else in this country. and i know it was a hate crime. i know they targeted me because of the color of my skin. you feel kinds of helpless. cheryl: before i let you go. we covered it here at fox. i covered it on maria bartiromo's show. it's your moms birthday and you want to say happy birthday. >> i love you, mom, happy birthday. my mom is a tough person. she is a single fairnlt, an lapd
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officer. i love her to death and she has been through a lot of struggles throughout her lifetime. and my mom hasn't ever blamed anyone for her problems ever. she taught me that as a kid and that's why i really love my mom. happy birthday, mom. cheryl: chris, you are a true hero, and the way you hand this earned my respect. we wish you the best of luck with everything. chris marquez, thank you, sir. >> thank you for inviting me over. cheryl: we have a fox alert for you. the department of justice is promising to crack down on sphaing wary cities. david clerk is here to tell us whether he believes them. president obama's attorney general is saying he doesn't have the legal authority to bring guantanamo bay detainees back to the u.s.
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for harboring illegal criminal immigrants. this is a big change. why do you think they made it? >> these people are slippery. the president recently vetoed a bill that would have defunded sanctuary cities. now they are going to go after these cities? how is he going to do it? congress needs to pass a law to defund it. who is he going to prosecute? this is nothing more than a sleight of hand. cheryl: loretta lynch says the president can't enact his gitmo plan on his own. >> would you agree the federal government is prohibited from establishing such facilities and transferring guantanamo detainees into the u.s. and its territories?
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>> that is the state of the law most recently passed. cheryl: do you think the president can get around this? >> he has don't before. he did it with delaying the obamacare mandate. he did it with his executive order on gun control. the on time barack obama says the word can't is when he looks at congress and says they can't stop me. otherwise that word does not exist. we'll wake up some morning and find out that these detainees have been slipped into the united states and into some federal prison. that will be catastrophic. you will get some terrorist sympathizer group who will go to federal court. they will say they have constitutional rights which they don't. but you will find some activist judge that will demand a hearing for habeas corpus and the next thing you know these people will have to be released into the general population.
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if i'm one of those terrorists i would say you are not sending me back. you broughtn me in and i want to stay here. but obama does not care about that. he cares about his cap pain promise to close gitmo. cheryl: >> the police officer was shot this week. a colorado sheriff's deputy was killed by a man. he fired at police while being served with an eviction notice. we have had all these attacks on police in the last week. what is going on? >> it would be nice to know there have been 10 law enforcement officers so far this year shot and killed in the line of duty. we didn't have the first one in 2015 until march. i have not heard anything from the attorney general' office on it. i have not heard from the white house on it. it's obvious to me the war i said was declared on the american police officer two years ago is still under way.
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we will -- we don't get into this profession to die, but we'll if we have to. but for heaven's sake. the president will turn around and probably try to enact gun control and blame the gun. there is no respect for law enforcement anymore, where people used to fight resist and run from police, now they are not thinking twice about shooting at police. cheryl: , sheriff, thank you. well, coming up. after hike can the minimum wage to $15 a last april. seattle city council considering legislation requiring companies to provide employees with a more predictable, livable schedule. >> they announced they are making a new version of monopoly. it won't come with any cash.
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cheryl: after hike the minimum wage to $15, the city council is looking at requiring companies like starbucks to provide a livable schedule. seattle adopted $15. since then jobs are down. unemployment is up. is this working? >> it's not going to be work. there is tremendous opportunity for people in america today, but there are people who face challenges and difficulties. this is not the way to help them. increasing the minimum wage and mandating schedules and paid leave. they will increase the cost of employment, decrease flexibility, they will make it harder for people to enter the workforce who need that help. i would urge seattle and any other city thinking of following suit to take a step back.
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cheryl: last night on this show a 29-year-old millennial ripped into a 25-year-old who complained about her salary. >> there were a lot of people who read that article and thought, oh, god, not another one that will make my generation look like a bunch of slackers and people not willing to work. cheryl: a lot of people say that about any lenalls. do you think millennials feel entitled? >> i'm always receipt cent to think they are not as hard work as the rest of us. we want to make it as easy as possible for people to get into the workplace, to get that experience and make the miss take the young woman made. chair * we have in -- cheryl: we've have incredible million millennials in the
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technology sector i keep seeing this over and over on the west coast. i just started, i'm out of college six months, i deserve a promotion. i deserve a raise. do their parents give them and ribbon for wake up every day? >> i'm from california. but coming to washington and make those mistakes and having to figure it out. the question is are enough of those young people today being forced to figure it out. saying this is no longer the minor leagues. i'm not sure we are giving that message enough time. cheryl: when i started working i was 11. i lied when i was 15 and said i was 16 to get a job. sabrina schaeffer, it was great to have you on. hopefully these kids learned their lesson. sabrina schaeffer, it was great
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to have you on the show. deirdre bolton will be back tomorrow night. coming up you have charles payne to help you make some money. and a lot to talk about when it comes to the political landscape. "risk and reward." charles: do or die for several republican candidates. marco rubio seems to be change his tactics. blasting out an email to reporters point out how donald trump has hired foreigners overwhelmingly over americans. is he going to go for the jugular of the gop frontrunner? >> the frontrunner in this race alluded to the fact he thinks parts of obamacare is pretty good. there is no honeymoon period in foreign policy. you can't say when i get there

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