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for that you can see still the live feed up of the ohio governor john kasich speaking at the american-israel public affairs committee event in washington, d.c. my col he can charles payne is with you now. "making money" starts this second. charles: you just heard john kasich finishing up his speech at aipac. very soon in the next few minutes donald trump will begin to speak. we'll carry that for you live. rabbi, let me start with you. the big question going into the donald trump speech is will he remain neutral when it comes to israel and palestine? >> let me mention something. the two greatest threats facing israel, one is iran nuclear capability, and two is radical islam.
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when it comes to those two things that are the biggest threats, donald trump is not neutral. donald trump is clear, lowched and the screaming that it's the worst nuclear deal an temperatures screaming about radical islam. so the neutral concept when it comes the two-state solution, which no one is talking about because right now in israel jewish children and women and soldiers are being literally stabbed in the back and shot at and killed. there is no negotiation and discussion. charles: with all due respect, sir. at some point the ultimate solution would and two-state solution. i think over the years that's been agreed to. they tried it several times, it hasn't worked out. even donald trump admits it would be the greatest achievement of his presidency. do you want americans to start with a neutral position rather than saying we are going into this negotiation, but
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understand, israel has our backs. >> maybe you didn't hear me clearly. he's not neutral concerning the two biggest issues concerning israel. charles: i am asking a specific question. >> i hear you. concerning a palestinian negotiation, that is nonexistent. that isn't happening right now, the biggest threat is israel is dying in the street. let's put aside right now the details of that right now. and discuss the real problem. charles: i don't think -- a lot of people don't want to put that aside. they are saying they want to hear more about that today. fall ryan is speak and i want to hear what he has got to say, we'll come back. >> i heard from a lot of folks today that you heard from a lot of folks today. and it's always a good thing
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when america's lead terse three chair their support for is rail. you know what? it's not enough, though. the speeches, the statements, all the words in the world mean nothing if you do not back them up with actions. [applause] that is why two years ago when the rockets were falling on tel aviv the house approved emergency support for the iron dome. and that is why within just two months of my taking the speakership we voted to fund every pennive our security assistance commitment. and that is why in my first
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strip overseas as speaker of the house, my first trip will be to return to israel. [cheers and applause] and that is why i can pledge to you here tonight that as long as i'm the speaker of the house, we will not allow any legislation to divide our countries to come to the house floor for any consideration. it is action that build trust. and our friendship is too important. the dangers we face are too real to let there be any misgiving between us. you know, like my house colleagues, i understand that america is not safer when we
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back away from israel. america is safer when we stand with israel. so if there is one thing that it would ask you to take away from tonight, it's this. my colleagues and i will do everything we can to strengthen our friendship not just with words, but with concrete achievements. no taking friend for granted. no leaving them in the lurch. a friend is a priority and american leaders should act like it. [applause] now, that's what i think most americans believe. on both sides of the aisle. but i do hear people raising doubts every now and then, they say things like the middle east? the middle east is a mess.
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it's none of our business. why are we involved? why are we picking side? they say that our alliance is not an asset but a liability. they say that it hamstrings america. that it cuts against our interests. and in my experience it does us no good to wave off our opponent or dismiss them as narrow minded and be high minded about it. that doesn't bridge the divide. that deepens the divide. instead we need to confront our critics' argument head on. have a real conversation. and i would say to them that i firmly believe that the friendship between our two countries is not just in israel's interest, but it's in america's interest. it is good for israel, it is
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good for america, and it is good for the world. it's really just a lesson in history. you know, for many years we avoided what thomas jefferson ca we were not as strong as a country back then. and the great powers wanted to use us for their own purposes. there was no reason to play the pawn in their chess game. so we stayed out. well, that all changed in world war ii. charles: speaker ryan speaking at the aipac conference and saying something interesting about actions and deed. i'm sure a lot of people sitting in the audience saying if it was actions and deed why would you
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have let the iran deal go through. this is a major conference, a lot of influential folks are there. hillary clinton spoke earlier today and she didn't waste any time taking a swipe at donald trump. >> we need steady hand, not a president who says he's neutral monday, and pro israel tuesday and who knows what wednesday because everything is negotiable. well, my friend, israel's security is non-negotiable. charles: obviously that riled up the crowd. tammy bruce, christian whiten *. christian, this is your bailiwick, if you will. what should our position be. we know everyone will take a hard line with isis. but with respect to trying to
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bring peace to israel and find a way to help negotiate a deal between israel and palestine. >> there is a problem with trump and apec. this is the white whale of diplomacy. and it's like lucy with her football to use. >> the analogy. it isn't ever going to work. donald trump thick's an excellent negotiator. being a good gloashator means understanding your party and the counterparty. charles: are you saying there is no solution? >> the idea that solving israel-palestine is a failed leftover policy and just to sign up for it is wrong. if you look at what the palestinians are today. they don't want peace. part of their government is controlled by hamas and hezbollah.
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if you predicate middle east peace on that, it's not going to happen. look where jihadism is growing. it's growing in europe. al qaeda is still there, you have al-shabaab and a laundry list of jihadist groups. by focusing narrowly on israel-palestine it plays into the hand of the jihadists. charles: tammy, do you agree? >> yes, ethnically there is no continues between the so-called palestinians and jordan. you have ethnic differences with the persians and the kurds. but the people in the gaza strip are arabs. this is a shiny squirrel. israel is the size of connecticut. the idea that there has to be
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another state right there i think is a political argument for those arabs and especially for hamas, the terrorist groups that are turned brand-new supported by iran to squeeze israel even more. the issue has to be an toned terrorism and making sure israel is safe from this dynamic. not the two-state exclusion argument. i think there are multiple states already in israel. again, there is no ethnic palestinian. they are arabs. they are exactly as the jordanians and saudis. so people get this idea the palestinians are some kind of displaced ethnic minority. no, they are not. >> we need to defend israel at all costs. i mean if it comes to military might. with regard to hillary clinton. if she betrayed israel, she has not denounced that iranian deal. she betrayed the nation of israel.
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i talked to donald trump's close friend. he's a man who never turns his back on a friend. he wouldn't turn his back on israel. >> tonight is his opportunity to a sudden presidential. this is the moment, how he answers that neutral comment of his. this is not a rally. this is a presidential event. charles: we'll bring in the rest of the panel. we are waiting for donald trump and paul ryan is finishing up. i want to remind you you don't want to miss our primary and caucus coverage tomorrow. i can tell you i'm excited. i think it will be a great night. it begins at 8:00 p.m. on fox business. tweet me your thoughts. donald trump, neutrality, and what is the solution to peace in the middle east. or is it even attainable. then your rates go through the roof. perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness,
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charles: the donald trump motorcade just pulled up. he will be speak at this big aipac conference. a lot of people are making their pitch to israeli voters and those concerned about foreign policy. nothing more important than the middle east with respect to foreign policy these days. i want to go to you will be ron. what are your thoughts with respect to the solution near the middle east? for years, for decade to the point made here, it always centered around israel. israel being safe, maybe a two-state solution. but now apparently it spread. what is the solution? not on is israel safe, but the world is safe. >
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>> if it was easy i think we would be getting there. the people want peace. i think the leaders in israel want peace. in palestine the people want peace but the leaders want war, they want terror. hamas who controls through fear hold the country hostage. their people want peace. charles: i hate to say this. but it's hard for me to believe it. it's hard to believe necessity want peace when the unprovoked knifing attacks we see daily. it's absolutely amazing in my mind. over the years the more israel has given the more dangerous it's become. >> there are a large group of terrorists in palestine. and hamas is a large group, they are terrorists. hillary clinton is trying to run
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to the right of donald trump and that's bizarre. hillary clinton is a neoconservative and openly broadcasting that. that's not where the american people are. the people are closer to where donald trump is. i think his temperament is an issue. but i think he's sound. this week we found out a half billion dollars has been wasted funding rebels who have done nothing. charles: without a question it can be done better. we all agree on that. rabbi, let me go back to you. i would manage most of the -- at least on the gop side most would want to take a hard line against isis and some of the other threats. ted cruz talked about carpet bombing them. is that a succinct solution. >> absolutely not. these are complex problems.
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and that's probably why mr. trump is so smart to say i'm not going to give you a detailed outlined understanding of how we solve them. people have to sit in that office and deal with generals and look at what's there. but for sure this is not about land when it comes to israel and the palestinians. it was nothing to do with land. if it was about land we wouldn't have people being blown up in paris and california and other places. what has become clear today, hillary bragged how she crafted the iran nuclear deal and two breaths later she is telling us how the greatest threat to israel is iran and nuclear power. charles: somehow the obama administration views this as a success. you brought up the foreign policy team. i want to let the audience know,
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we heard about some of the team today, senator jeff sessions, walid phares, a contributor to fox news. joe smits. general keith kellogg and others. donald trump's foreign policy team is starting to shape up. donald trump met with gop lawmakers today. was it unity or was it to bolster the team? he will be up next. don't let dust and allergies get between you
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charles: we are awaiting donald trump's speech that will happen any moment now. blake? reporter: they have a perfectly time shot sheet that has been followed all day long. donald trump was supposed to speak few moments ago, then the house speak per paul ryan got on stage and we were, what's going on here?
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trump's motorcade pulled into the verizon center about 5-10 minute ago. so we are anticipating trump at the aipac conference at any moment. it's been a busy day. it started out at the jones-day law firm where trump is trying to coalesce republicans around him. there was the news conference at the trump international washington, d.c. hotel. he spoke with the media but didn't give him an independent casings what he will say at aipac. he also met with the post earlier today. one note to about the trump speech. there are different kind of events with trump. there are speeches and large rallies where he goes off the cuff. he's impromptu. then with media and more q anne a.
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this is expected to be a different scene. we believe this to be a more scripted speech. a shorter speech as we anticipate from moment away. charles: trump met with some influential republicans. they called it a unity gathering. representative collins? i appreciate your time. what was county gist of the meeting? donald trump is here fy pack and decided with jeff d is here for aipac. it's time for the republican party to co-less donald trump as our presumptive nominee. we have to take the fight to hillary clinton. this was the first step of unifying the party and bringing those of us supporting him and others testing the water and
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outside organizations. so we can end the nonsense of the republican party trying to stand in the way of an individual, donald trump that is bringing new voters into our party, and we need that big tent and i think donald trump there is no question will be our nominee. this was a nice sit-down to have a conversation with our next president. charles: you have had representative duncan hunter, tom read, yourself. all of you guys endorsed donald trump. was it a love-in, a lovefest or could you have an honest discussion with him? could you get some things off your chest? >> it was an honest discussion about what's going on in each our districts. it's jobs, jobs and jobs. we talked about our individual districts and shared with mr. trump some of the energy, in my case all the working class democrats who lost their jobs to china and mexico.
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this was a very open discussion. we talked about the supreme court and the economy and the like. so this was a nice open discussion. charles: i noticed tom cotton was there and he was mentioned as a third party candidate. some folks are saying maybe trump could counter with a vp slot. rene is a pro-am necessary city person. but she has a serious threat for her seat. what do you make of the folks who have not endorsed donald trump yet. >> i think what's become obvious to everyone with his resounding win last tuesday he expected to win arizona tomorrow in the polls whether it's new york or new jersey. pennsylvania, wisconsin. he put in play michigan in a general election. they are saying we are going to
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support the republican nominee to defeat hillary clinton and her progressive agenda and big government taking over our lives. you will see more and more people coming on board trump train as he moves and continues to add to his delegate count. charles: donald trump hinted some of these folks on the anti-trump train are changing their minds. calling them. and maybe we'll see some people flip. do you want to give us a name tonight? >> i don't have a name tonight but i can only hope you are dead on there. charles: i think for the sake of the gop i hope this some sort of unity rather than later. thanks a lot. representative chris collins. i want to bring in the pant back with us. lieutenant steve roarnlings, tammy bruce and christian whiton. what do you have make of the
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notion that donald trump starts to work back channels to heal the party, heal some of these open wounds? >> i don't think it's going to work. what the congressman just called nonsense is what other people call democracy. donald trump leads in the delegate count but he's halfway to where he needs to be to lock the nomination. trump may have a good day in in arizona with you ted cruz is widely expected to win utah and clean up in utah. more republicans are going to line up behind cruz. donald trump said some astounding things. that we ought to get out of nato and no longer have bases in japan and korea. you can't say things like that and also say we are going to be there for our allies and israel.
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this an isolationist foreign policy. charles: donald trump is walking out. i think many people would agree. they have to fork over more cash. >> all we do is wasted. he seems to say things like being neutral in this negotiation between the so-called palestinians and israel. if he now has this team that he brought together that will advise shim about the intricacies of the nature of what's going on. there is a tendency towards isolationism. we had that with obama and we see it doesn't work.
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in 2001, weeks after the attacks on new york city, and on washington and frankly the attacks on all of us, attacks that perpetrated, and they were perpetrated by the islamic fundamentalists. mayor rudy visited israel to show solidarity with terror victims. i sent my plane because i backed the mission for israel 100%. [clapping] in spring of 2004 at the height of the violence in the gazy strip, i was the grand
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marshal of the 40th solute to israel parade. the largest single gathering in support of the jewish state. [clapping] it was a very dangerous time for israel and frankly for anyone supporting israel. many people turned down this honor. i did not -- i took the risk, and i'm glad i did. [clapping] but i didn't come here tonight to pander to you about valley. that's what politicians do. all talk. no action. believe me. i came here to speak to you about where i stand on the future of american relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship, and our cultural brother, the only
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democracy in the middle east. the state of israel. [cheers and applause] thank you. my number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with iran. [cheers and applause] thank you. thank you. i have been in business a long time. i know deal making. and let me tell you. this deal is catastrophic. for america, for israel, and for the whole of the middle east. the problem here is fundamental. we've rewarded the world's leading state sponsor of
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terror with $150 billion, and we received absolutely nothing in return. [clapping] i've studied this issue in great detail. i would say actually greater by far than anybody else. believe me. oh, believe me. and it's a bad deal. the biggest concern with the deal is not necessarily that iran is going to violate it because already, you know, as you know it has. the bigger problem is that they can keep the terms and still get the bomb by simply running out the clock. and of course they'll keep the billions and billions of dollars that we so stupidly and affordably gave them.
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[clapping] the deal doesn't even require iran to dismantle its military nuclear capability. yes, it places limits on its military nuclear program for only a certain number of years. but when those restrictions expire, iran will have an industrial sized military nuclear capability ready to go and with zero provision for delay, no matter how bad iran's behavior is. terrible, terrible situation that we are all placed in. and especially israel. [clapping] when i'm president, i will adopt strategy that focuses on three things when it comes to iran. first, we will stand up to iran's aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region.
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[clapping] iran is a very big problem. and will continue to be. but if i'm not elected president, i know how to deal with trouble. and believe me, that's why i'm going to be elected president, folks. [cheers and applause] and we are leading in every poll. remember that, please. iran is a problem in iraq. a problem in syria. a problem in lebanon. a problem in yemen. and will be a very, very major problem for saudi arabia. literally every day iran provides more and better weapons to support their puppet states. lebanon received -- and i'll tell you why, it has received sophisticated antiship weapons, antiaircraft weapons,
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and gps systems and rockets like very few people anywhere in the world and certainly very few countries have. now they're in syria trying to establish another front against israel from the syrian side of the heights. in gaza, iran is supporting hamas and islamic jihad. and on the west bank, they're openly offering palestinians $7,000 per terror attack and $30,000 for every palestinian terrorist home that's been destroyed. a deplorable, deplorable situation. [clapping] iran is financing military forces throughout the middle east. and it's absolutely incredible that we handed them over $150 billion to do even more
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toward the many horrible acts of terror. [clapping] secondly. we will totally dismantle iran's global terror network, which is big and powerful. but not powerful like us. [cheers and applause] iran has seeded terror groups all over the world. during the last five years, iran has perpetuated terror attacks in 25 different countries on five continents. they've got terror cells everywhere, including in the western hemisphere, very close to home. iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world, and we will work to dismantle that reach, believe me. believe me. [clapping] third at the very least, we
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must enforce the terms of the previous deal to hold iran totally accountable, and we will enforce it like you've never seen a contract enforced before, folks. believe me. iran has already since the deal is in place test fired ballistic missiles three times. those ballistic missiles with a range of 1,250 miles were designed to intimidate not only israel, which is only 600 miles away, but also intend to frighten europe and some day maybe hit even the united states. and we're not going to let that happen. we're not letting it happen. and we're not letting it happen to israel. believe me. [cheers and applause] thank you.
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thank you. do you want to hear something really shocking? as many of the great people in this room know, painted on those missiles in both hebrew and farsi were the worlds israel must be wiped off the face of the earth. you can forget that. [clapping] what kind of demented minds write that in hebrew? and here's another. you talk about twisted. here's another twisted part. testing these missiles does not even violate the horrible deal that we've made. the deal is silent on test missiles. but those tests do violate the united nation security council resolutions. the problem is no one has done anything about it. we will. we will. i promise.
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we will. [cheers and applause] which brings me to my next point. the utter weakness and incompetence of the united nations. [cheers and applause] the united nations is not a friend of democracy. it's not a friend to freedom. it's not a friend even to the united states of america whereas you kn it has its home. and it surely is not a friend to israel. [clapping]
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with president obama in his final year. yay. [cheers and applause] he may be the worst thing to ever happen to israel. believe me. believe me. and you know it. and you know it better than anybody. so with the president in his final year, discussions have been swirling about an attempt to bring a security council resolution on terms of an eventual agreement between israel and palestine. let me be clear. an agreement imposed by the
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united nations would be a total and complete disaster. [clapping] the united states must oppose this resolution and use the power of our veto, which i will use as president 100%. [clapping] when people and why? it's because that's not how you make a deal. deals are made when parties come together. they come to a table, and they negotiate. each side must give up something. its values. i mean we have to do something where there's value in exchange for something that it requires. that's what a deal is. a deal is really something that when we impose it on israel and palestine, we bring together a group of people that come up with something
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that's not going to happen with the united nations. it will only further very importantly, it will only further delegitimatize israel. it will be a catastrophe and a disaster for israel. it's not going to happen, folks. and further, it would reward palestinian terrorism because every day they're stabbing israelis and even americans. just last week, american taylor allen force, a west point grad, phenomenal young person who served in iraq and afghanistan was murdered in the street by a knife-wielding palestinian. you don't reward behavior like that. you cannot do it. [clapping]
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there's only one way you treat that kind of behavior. you have to confront it. so it's not up to the united nations to really go with a solution. it's really the parties that must negotiated a resolution themselves. they have no choice. they have to do it themselves or it will never hold up anyway. the united states can be useful as a facilitator of negotiations. but no one should be telling israel that it must be -- and really that it must abide by some agreement made by others, thousands of miles away, that don't even really know what's happening to israel, to anything in the area. it's so preposterous, we're not going to let that happen. [cheers and applause]
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when i'm president, believe me, i will veto any attempt by the un to impose its will on the jewish state. it will be vetoed 100%. you see, i know about deal making. that's what i do. i wrote the art of the deal. one of the best-selling all time -- and i mean seriously i'm saying one of because i'll be criticized if i say the. so i'm going to be very diplomatic. one of -- i'll be criticized. i think it is number one but why take a chance? [laughter] one of the all time best-selling books about deals and deal making. to make a great deal, you need two willing participants. we know israel is willing to
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deal. israel has been trying. israel has been trying to sit down at the negotiating table without preconditions for years. you had camp david in 2000 where prime minister barak made an incredible offer, maybe even too generous. arafat rejected it. in 2008 made an equal offer, the palestinian rejected it also. and then john carry tried to come up with a framework and the boss didn't even respond. not even to the secretary of state of the united states of america. they didn't even respond. when i become president, the days of treating israel like a second class citizen will end on day one. [cheers and applause]
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and when i say something, i mean it. i mean it. i will meet with prime minister netanyahu immediately. i have known him for many years and will be able to work closely together to help bring stability and peace to israel and to the entire region. meanwhile, every single day you have rampant insightment and children being taught to hate israel and hate the jews. it has to stop. [clapping] when you live in a society where the firefighters are the heroes, little kids want to be firefighters. when you live in a society
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where athletes and movie stars are the heroes, little kids want to be athletes and movie stars. in palestinian society, the heroes are this who murder jews. we can't let this continue. we can't let this happen any longer. you -- [clapping] you cannot achieve peace if terrorists are treated as martyrs. glorifying terrorism is a tremendous barrier to peace. it is a horrible, horrible way to think. it's a barrier that can't be broken. that will end, and it will end soon. believe me. [clapping] in palestinian textbooks and mosques, you've got a culture of hatred that has been fir
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meanting there for years, and if they want to achieve peace, they have to go out and start this educational process. they have to end education of hatred. they have to end it. and now. there is no moral equivalency. israel does not name public squares after terrorists. israel does not pay its children to stab random palestinians. you see? what president obama gets wrong about deal making is that he constantly applies pressure to our friends and rewards our enemies. [clapping] and you see that happening all
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the time. that pattern practiced by the president and his administration, including former secretary of state hillary clinton, who is a total disaster, by the way. [cheers and applause] she and president obama have treated israel very, very badly. [cheers and applause] but has repeated itself over and over again. and has done nothing to embolden this who hate america. we saw that with releasing the $150 billion to iran in the hope that they would magically join the world community. it didn't happen. president obama think so that applying pressure to israel will force the issue. but it's precisely the opposite that happens. already half of the population
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of palestine has been taken over by the palestinian isis in hamas and the other half refuses to confront the first half. so it's a very difficult situation that's never going to get resolved unless you have great leadership right here in the united states. we'll get it resolved. one way or the other. we will get it solved. [clapping] but when the united states stands with israel, the chances of peace really rise. and rises exponentially. that's what will happen when donald trump is president of the united states. [clapping] we will move the american embassy to the eternal capital of the jewish people jerusalem. [cheers and applause]
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and we will send a clear signal that there is no daylight between america and our most reliable ally, the state of israel. the palestinians must come to the table knowing that the bond between the united states and israel is absolutely totally unbreakable. they must come to the table willing and able to stop the terror being committed on a daily basis against israel. they must do that. and they must come to the
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table willing to accept that israel is a jewish state. and it will forever exist as a jewish state. [cheers and applause] i love the people in this room. i love israel. i love israel. i've been with israel so long in terms of i've received some of my greatest honors from israel. my father before me, incredible. my daughter is about to have a beautiful jewish baby. [cheers and applause] in fact, it could be happening right now, which would be very nice as far as i'm concerned. so i want to thank you very much. this has been a truly great honor.
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thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you very much. . charles: well, there you have it. donald trump and his long much awaited speech at apec. it was received very well. had a tremendous amount of applause lines here. and we've got a copy of most of the speech. he stayed with it for the most part. i want to bring in a panel. caitlyn berns is back with us, cathy and tammy. what did you think? do you think he answered questions that may be out there? >> i think he did. trump has learned it you don't get a free get out of jail card anymore once you get to this level of being a presidential candidate with regard to making the statements. so previous statements that he may have made with -- without meaning to insult anybody about being neutral or anything like that, he quickly nipped in the butt with his opening statement, which shows
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humility, which said i'm new to being in politics. charles: so american negotiated was in the middle of a negotiation between both parties, it would be clear that we were on the side of israel? >> i think he made his support for israel clear, and he cleared up any ambiguity about that. charles: that's interest because the overall focus on this speech was iran first and foremost. the united nations and a few hits at hillary and obama. which, by the way, didn't get the biggest applause. but what do you make of that, caitlyn? that he shifted away from the notion of israel and palestine. let's talk about iran that seemed to be at the center of it all. >> sure. and it's a popular position among not only the -- his audience, but also the republican base. and i do think that, you know, we've talked before about how trump does learn from past mistakes. and i think the -- you know, his closing line here, he didn't mention neutrality at all. in fact, he said palestine
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needs to come to the table. i think that really under scored. >> all of the things he talked about with respect to iran. can he pull it off? european countries eager to do business there. already started selling products there. can we make them a -- you know, the villain once again? in an atmosphere where the rest of the world seems earing to do business with them? >> well, i think among the republican party, i think that is a -- winning line. i think you talk to a a lot of republican voters, and they agree with that. all of the candidates have been pretty much in line with that kind of no gray area. charles: big applause, jillian and the american embassy is going to be moved to the capital of the jewish people of jerusalem. there were a lot of points where the crowd was really into it. >> he did. and i think that's because he was saying the right things. but i did notice throughout the speech again and again he's got this verbal tick, believe me. and the probable problem is i just don't believe him. if you look at the rest of the day he was at the washington post this morning laying out his policy. he wants to speak loudly and carry a small stick.
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and the example of that is ukraine. this is a country that has been invaded by his buddy putin, and he's actually telling the washington post on the same day he wants us to believe he'll be a steadfast supporter of israel, that we should back off ukraine. i don't know how anyone can believe him on this. charles: tammy, for the most part donald trump stuck with the script. one way or the other we'll get it solved. kind of gets back to -- some trump supporters doesn't want to lay out his game plan but other critics say he's not quite sure how to get the job done. >> quite frankly unless you're the president in the white house, you don't have enough details to make a decision and statement about exactly what's going to happen. you've got to have that background. you've got to know exactly what's going on. you've got to be brief. we know what he wants to do. we have a general sensibility of the direction, and i think overall naturally limited in the amount of details he can give. do you agree? >> i do. and not only that, how many leaders have tried to solve
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this? . charles: yeah, no doubt about it. >> he's come a long way in showing proposals that he stands behind. and that's a big step from -- charles: by the way, ted cruz is talking. we want to get t. it will be great to watch the juxtapose speeches. i want toking back to ford o'connell. ford. >> here's the deal with trump. he's trying to overcome the perception of the foreign policy iq is only an inch deep but ought bluster. i think today he accomplished two things. one he's pro israel and one he can learn on the fly because remember tomorrow morning this is going to be in newspapers throughout israel. so overall i think this is a success. but he has a lot more to grow on. charles: well, one part what would you say he has to grow on? >> well, you have to understand that's why he's hitting iran. that's what he can go to. he's going to have to become more fluid overtime as peres pointed out earlier today. he understands that he can
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dance this iran thing so long, but he's going to have to go further. and there's other issues out there. charles: yeah. >> other things that the panel noted. charles: obviously, guys, it's very complicated. i wish we can have more time to hash it out. we will tomorrow night. and we hope you come back and watch it. in the meantime here's lou dobbs right here on fox business. lou: good evening, everybody, i'm lou dobbs. donald trump confronting his critics who say he's weak on world affairs. delivering his biggest foreign policy speech to date. trump just moments ago outlining his foreign policy vision before the country's leading pro israel group apec. >> my number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with iran. [cheers and applause] i have been in business a long time.

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