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so many wonderful memories. oprah, the doves are really crying, listening to your music, remembering you, rip, prince. rest in peace indeed a lot of fans. melissa: absolutely. david: that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts right now. deirdre: we're monitoring a few moving parts for you this hour. president obama has arrived in london. he is going to meet with leaders on the u.k.'s decision to stay or leave the european union. closer to home republican national committee meeting in florida. it is one of the last rules meetings before the summer convention. we'll bring you the latest. creative icon prince has died at the age of 57. we'll be speaking with a musician who grew up with him, fans that love him. this is "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. we're taking you straight away to minnesota. fans are in morning. host of the in the fox light, michael tammero is with me.
i have been watching the reporting, fans are showing up at paisley park, people don't know it was work space, a lodging space and just laying flowers and paying their respects. >> well you know, like the man himself, deirdre, there is a lot of mystery as to what was the cause of death early this morning. what we do know is around 9:43 a.m. police arrived at the paisley park compound to find a male unresponsive in an elevator. they attempted cpr on the victim but he was pronounced dead at 10:07 a.m. we know about a week ago prince was on his way back from a concert in atlanta. he was having breathes problems. the plane was forced down. he was rushed to hospital. he was pronounced suffering from complications from the flu. he was released. we thought it was all fine until we saw the news that shocked everyone earlier today.
you were spot on calling him creative icon, deirdre. 30-gram any nominations, he -- 30 grammy nomination, seven wins, an academy award. fashion, movie, videos, you name it. even sports his impact will be felt for a very, very long time. deirdre: he was incredibly prolific. for most musicians, he was producing basically like an album per year. that is to say nothing else of the other artists that he was mentoring. president obama weighing in on this. apple's ceo tim cook, oprah winfrey. i mean collectively anybody with any creative notions either privately or professionally feel the loss. >> you're right. from 1985 to 1992 he produced eight albums. so many artists he discovered,
sheila e. sheena easton. justin timberlake, christina aguilera, it would be hard to not find an artist not influenced by prince. deirdre: eric clapton was asked how it felt to be the world's best guitar it. he said, i don't know, ask prince. >> thank you. deirdre: thank you. michael tammero joining us there. later we'll have one of prince's childhood friends on the show. fox business's "kennedy," hosting a hour-long special on the life and legacy on prince. don't miss kennedy. her program starts 8:00 p.m. eastern time. to florida, completely different tone. republican national committee meeting in the sunshine state moments ago. the rules committee voted to keep the rules for the convention. it is controversial decision. it was an intense meeting. critics say that gives too much power to the presiding officer at the convention. house speaker paul ryan by most guesses. peter barnes is there in florida
peter just how tense? when we say it was tense, what are your sources telling you? reporter: hey, deirdre. the rules committee members agreed today to not make any changes, propose any changes the to the rule for now, just to be clear. because the rules committee meets again before july just before the republican national convention in cleveland. there is a whole separate committee that will take recommendations from the rules committee might make then. then a separate rules committee will decide what the rules will be. but this stuff, while weed did i is very important because because it could determine who the eventual republican nominee is. as you know there are proposals out there that would protect donald trump or ted cruz, protect the nomination for them as lead delegate getter so far. the lead vote-getters. there are other proposals out there that might allow someone with fewer delegates such as john kasich, governor of ohio to
get the nomination or even a white knight, mitt romney-type person who isn't even running right now to get the nomination. but reince priebus, the chairman of the republican national committee said the environment was too politically charged to take the issues up and make any recommendations for changing the rules to the convention and decided basically to punt them to july as i mentioned. a number of members of the rules committee stood up at this meeting today agreeing the timing was not right. this is one of them. >> this is very hotly-contested election and any change that we make would be viewed with a large degree of cynicism. one of my colleagues pointed out to me if we change ad semicolon to a comma, there would probably be a debate why that was so important and one candidate would think it was to favor a different candidate.
reporter: just to prove how important this discussion and debate is, both ted cruz and john kasich as we reported yesterday, came off the campaign trail to come down here to personally lobby these republican leaders and right now representative donald trump, his political strategist, is holding a meeting with with the republican leaders to make his case for rules change. deirdre: you have to show up, right. >> for the candidate exactly. deirdre, back to you. >> we thank you as always. peter barnes, with me where the meeting just wrapped up. you heard my colleague peter barnes. he was inside the room, he was part of the decision. he will be my guest shortly. meantime rnc chair reince priebus made the statement
earlier. >> i've called for the rnc rules committee to not make any major changes. in fact any changes to the rules or the amendments. i'm running the committee, and i don't believe that we're going to have any rules changes coming out of the meeting this week. deirdre: senator ted cruz says he agrees. he says i think the rules are fair, need to be followed. to change the rules to try to engineer dropping in some third party white knight savior doomed to failure. it would be catastrophic for the washington elites to impose their choice rather than the choice of the voters. former senior advisor to president reagan, ed rollins, with me now. ed i'm always happy to see you. on days where there is a lot going on with the rules i'm more happy-year than usual. what do you make of no change to the rules?
critic is say this unfairly buttressed or supports so-called institution. >> it supports the candidates leading. these two candidates, donald trump with his big victory other night and moving closer and closer to getting majority. ted cruz is obviously alternative. kasich and others are not going to make it. any change at this point in time treating someone else fairly or unfairly. last thing you don't want to do disrupt the weeks we have ahead or delegate fights we have ahead. i think that is smart decision. deirdre: i heard you say obviously this applies to the two front runners, donald trump and ted cruz. why do you think ted cruz, because there are a lot of conspiracy theories brewing, you know what? senator cruz agrees with the rnc chairman because that is the establishment. they are keeping the rules as they are to hurt or somehow, let's say put donald trump's campaign at a disadvantage. do you think that is true? >> first of all, cruz's plan, he can't get sufficient delegates to have a majority.
only one that can do that is trump. what he doesn't want to do alter second or third ballot where he has a chance to pick up delegates. he doesn't want any other players there. i think combined that will be the strategy. chairman. committee doesn't want to sitting here arguing next month overrules really not very valid. at end. day someone will get a majority. it will either be cruz or it will be trump. deirdre: what do you think of the idea of so-called moral majority? let's just say for argument sake, it is tiresome to go through every single scenario. say donald trump gets 1100 plus votes. there are people, even randy evans from the rules committee say you know what? that is pretty close. that is close enough. is that possible? >> i watched ronald reagan being pretty close in 1976. neither of them had delegate majority and they fought it out for a month -- deirdre: when you say fought, there were melees in the hallway of that convention, right? >> you had an incumbent president who totally controlled the rnc.
so he had the receipt sources of white house. he had air force one. he gave out sewer grants in new york. took chairman of mississippi sat him next to the queen in state dinner. not to be influenced and not to be forgotten. it is still 40 years later and i still remember him well. at end. day it will be trench warfare. one guy has shot of putting majority together on first ballot. others maybe beyond that. deirdre: when you say it will be trench warfare, as with reagan, you were with that young up start of a future president at that time in '76. but when you talk about trench warfare, at this juncture would you say okay, the candidate who has the best ground game is going to outperform? of course that would be cruz or would you say, you know what? donald trump has brought a ton of new people to him. i don't know if that is the party, that is debatable. to him personally and has charisma that can't be denied?
>> he certainly run a different kind of campaign. the mere fact he won overwhelmingly every congressional district in new york, one which he lost 70 votes, spending 13 cents a voter thanks to fox, msnbc, everything else, that is unheard of. he really stirred up a lot of people in this country. if he is denied you want to make sure he is denied fairly not by some arcane rule. deirdre: as we're close to super tuesday iii, as we call it, pennsylvania, i spend a lot of time there, i feel like i could bring in local color, 52 delegates essentially up for grab. it is only state in the union where it is fairly unclear when voters get there on tuesday, i mean they will have the names of three candidates and a lot of other names. >> you have a beauty contest. the beauty contest who gets at large delegate. deirdre: most people say trump? >> trump. but others you don't run as trump delegate. most are establishment players. many have been, you run a congressional district.
you have to go out and petition the whole bit. they're free agents. they're totally free agents. that is the most fertile ground of anybody. that is where you start after the thing comes to a finish at california primary. if anybody is short that is the first place you go camp. in 1976 ronald reagan picked as his vice president, dick schweikert, senator from there, to break you will coalition, didn't succeed that is the strategy. deirdre: come back anytime. >> happy to. deirdre: ed rollins, former senior advisor to president reagan. we'll have wall-to-wall coverage on super tuesday iii neil cavuto, lou dobbs, myself, the whole team will be here at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. rnc keeping the rules the same. critics say it could hurt trump. someone in the room, randy evans is right there.
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glad to see you. >> glad to see you, deirdre. deirdre: what do you think ahead of these northeastern states, donald trump so much name recognition, does senator cruz and i'm sure he has got his candidates running in those congressional districts in pennsylvania, and he could do very well in pennsylvania. but you know what? it doesn't matter. if you look at the votes. and the, the primaries that we've got left, the state has we got left, i can't find a way where trump can get 1237. bill hemmer on fox news and boad heavily weighted his predictions towards trump and could -- deirdre: congressman i will not pick a bone with you or
bill hemmer because he knows that board inside and out. but there are people, all respect intended to you both say that it is possible, especiallys is way further out, but the granddaddy of them all, california in june and then those 150 unattached delegates. still doesn't get to the majority. deirdre: okay. so it sounds like at least if you were a betting man you will say contested
nominee, have spoken a little too early, i got to tell you. they will have egg on their face. deirdre: we hear the shot across the bow. former house majority leader tom delay. >> thank you, deirdre. deirdre: congressman delay with me there. fox business will bring you wall-to-wall coverage much super tuesday 3. five big states in the northeast. neil cavuto, lou dobbs, myself, the rest of the team, we will have coverage for you starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. we do want to let you know what is going on of a hours with alphabet's google. you did have the stock meeting its earnings. a slight, much so slight beat on the top line. that is to say sales. but the miss on earnings is pushing the stock lower in this after-hours session. you know the internet brands, youtube, google search engine, gmail. it is a big part of your life no doubt. well, today the world lost creative icon musician prince.
night and told people to wait a few days before they wasted any prayers on his health. with me now fox news chief religion reporter, lauren green. fox news contributor, stacey dash. welcome to you both. i'm glad you're both here. lauren i would like to start with you. for people who maybe don't know, you are a classically trained pianist. you group in the same neighborhood. >> we went to the same schools, pretty much in the same grade. in minneapolis-st. paul area, so very small minority person. if you're a black person you grew up in the same neighborhood. north minneapolis and or south minneapolis. this is kid i always knew. i didn't really know him. didn't inner act with him that much occasion i in school. more after we graduated from high school and we became more famous. deirdre: lauren, you could have religion.
prince was very forthright about his faith. even said he feels like he was cured of epilepsy at different times. he was very strong in his faith. >> i didn't know he had epilepsy at a child. i learned recently he had epilepsy and learned that he believed he had divine intervention and healed of it. he was jehovah's witness, very much strong in his faith. didn't use drugs. didn't take alcohol. he was vegetarian. very healthy person and faithful. he his marriage, he got married the in church right around the corner where my mother lives, till lives actually. deirdre: glad you're here. nice to remember a musical genius. certainly creative icon. stacy you saw him in concert but you crossed paths with him although he was very private person. he liked to mix with creative people. >> there was place downtown in the village, very small club
called the cat club. he used to hang out there. i heard that i would go quite often if he would show up. he did once. he was very small. deirdre: 5'2" or people say every single inch -- >> my god his energy and his aura would fill the room with such light and he was such an icon. miles davis said, you know, he was a combination of james brown, marvin gaye and jimi hendrix. but then when he got up on stage, he channeled charlie chaplin. think about it, it is true. deirdre: good description. >> right, isn't it? deirdre: sounds like a good description. other musicians like james brown, had such admiration. i was talking earlier about a quote that i saw where eric clapton, somebody asked eric clapton how does it feel to be the best guitarist in the world, he said, i don't know, ask prince. which is how a lost musicians and artists fell about him. lauren, as stacy alluded to,
modern pop, modern r&b, a lot of people say prince changed the different kinds of music we listen to now? >> he has been a musician a long time. actually i got off the phone with friend of mine. she has been crying all afternoon. everybody has been crying all afternoon. these people actually worked with him as background singers and other musicians. she said i remember going to the club years ago in minneapolis, dive club, paying five dollars cover hearing prince and jimmy jam lewis at beginning when no one knew who they were. he was basically a very talented person with mozart of modern day. he could play all the instruments. he could create and compose almost at will. and it would just come out of him. greatness, he didn't choose greatness. greatness chose him. and that is really what we're dealing with here. genius. >> i loved about him too. his greatness was so iconic but it transcended race or anything else, time, space. deirdre: every single person who
likes music loves him, that simple, right? >> exactly. >> stacey dash, thank you very much. lauren green, thank you very much. our condolences to the community as well as you grew up with him. lauren green, stacey dash. be tuned tonight with kennedy. she has a hour-long special on legacy of prince. that starts 8:00 p.m. eastern time. we will be talking more about the legacy. also more from the rnc. voting rules to keep rules unchanged. so we'll give you more on that from someone who was in the room. ♪ when they actually did start saving. this gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too many of us aren't prepared for retirement. just start as early as you can. it's going to pay off in the future. if we all start saving a little more today, we'll all be better prepared tomorrow. prudential. bring your challenges.
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>> it's entirely possible that they can use some of this funding to support terrorist networks. >> right. well, but can you say that you think or the administration believes that some of the three billion has been used for this? >> no, i cannot. we don't know. >> you don't know. so they could have used it all? >> matt, we don't know means we don't know. deirdre: state department spokesman john kirby admitting that the obama administration does not know, or at least he doesn't know, if iran is using cash from the summer's nuclear deal to fund terrorism. radio host rush limbaugh sounded off. >> the state department says it doesn't know if iran is using its new cash to fund terrorism? seriously? it's entirely possible iran used its new cash to fund terrorist,
state department? what an admission. deirdre: retired lieutenant colonel bob mcginnis is with me now. thanks in advance for the time. to what extent is this potential unknown upsetting? be. >> well, deirdre, they're going to get 120 billion eventually. there's no question in my mind that iran that hosts hezbollah, that funds houthis in yemen, that funds its allies in syria, that sent its commanding general of the quds force to moscow in the winter -- not for a vacation in the sun, to buy arms -- yes, that money's going to in one way or another whether you color it one color or another, it's going to end up in the hands of terrorists. and it's going to propagate what the iranians have been doing for decades, and that is trying to kill americans in iraq, lebanon or anywhere else in the world and cause havoc. deirdre: speaking of havoc, we
know this summer when the u.s. and six major nations agreed to a framework with iran over nuclear power, we had a lot of our allies, most notably israel, saying this is a bad idea. israel was not alone. president obama said at the time, you know, if iran breaches some of these agreements, we do have power to reinstate some sanctions. where do you see these decisions being made now? >> well, the winners are all in tehran, certainly not in washington. the president's not going to enforce anything. the reality is that iran has taken -- this is a license. all you have to do is read their magazines and newspapers, deirdre. they're declaring victory, they're launching missiles against, basically, the undermine -- or the undergirding expectation that they were going to pull back from their radical agenda. the saudis mow this. certainly -- know this.
certainly their clandestine nuclear program which we refused to accept any explanation because that was part of this wig -- big deal. the iranians are going to continue down a pathway that's going to endanger america, that's going to destabilize the entire region, and we as a result get absolutely nothing, if anything we get from it is more heart ache and more killing. deirdre: sir, let me ask you before i let you go, is there anything that can be done now, any part of that agreement that can be clawed back quickly? >> well, the agreement was not signed, it was not passed by the parliament in tehran, much less the congress of the united states. it has no binding authority other than the good word of president obama and khamenei who happens to have called for the death of america and the destruction of israel. no. i don't see that we're going to pull anything back, and i think the legacy of the obama administration is linked undeniably to this particular outcome.
if that's what the president wants, it's going to be a sad commentary by the historians in the future. deirdre: well, and we know for most americans their safety as it applies to terrorism is very much front and center. retired lieutenant gold knell, thank you so much, bob mcginnis with me there. >> thank you. deirdre: there's a new report that wealthy silicon valleyexecr democratic socialist bernie sanders. employees of big tech firms are putting up cash to fund the candidates, even more cash than they are given to hillary clinton -- giving to hillary clinton. my next guest is an economist who says be careful what you wish for. if bernie sanders wins, a lot of those tech execs are going to have a lot less money in their pockets. >> the greed, the recklessness and the illegal behavior of wall street drove our economy to its knees. the american people bailed out wall street, now it's wall street's time to help the middle class.
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>> we are looking at an economy in which the rich get rich arer and the poor get poorer. rich get rich, everyone else gets poorer. rich are getting richer and everybody else is getting poorer. deirdre: senator sanders wants to tax the rich disproportionately, but that's not keeping the employees of the country's biggest and most successful tech companies away. alphabet google employees have given the most money to sanders, topping every other company. so employees have donated more than $200,000 to the sanders campaign. google alphabet, alphabet google not alone. just worth noting here, an entry-level employee at that company makes more than $100,000. now, four out of the top five employees of sanders' donors are tech industry giants, underlining our point we're showing you here, microsoft
coming in at number three, apple and amazon on the top five list. senior fellow and economist dan mitchell is with me now. dan, thanks very much for joining me. how is it possible that the people who will actually pay the most in taxes under a potential sanders presidency are the ones who support him the most and not only with their words, but with their dollars? >> at one level this is just crazy, because if you look at survey data about silicon valley, they're supposedly fiscally conservative and socially tolerant which is sort of libertarian. deirdre: well, there are a lot of libertarians in silicon valley. >> yeah, but the whole culture of silicon valley is supposed to be like that, so they should have been pouring money into rand paul's campaign or something like that. but when you dig deeper, i wonder whether some of what we're seeing is simply social signaling. these are people who over the last 15 years or so, what have they seen? they saw bigger government under bush, they're seeing bigger
government under obama, so what's the real difference? they might be thinking, you know what? fiscal policy's just going to be the same no matter whos's in office, and -- who's in office, and since silicon valley people tend to be more socially on the left, they probably figure why not contribute to sanders, why not show that we care, and maybe there's even something a little bit sketchy going on. maybe you give money to sanders sort of like buying yourself protection. and the way that warren buffett was supportive of barack obama be, it's a way of making sure that when the politicians are looking for victims, that maybe they'll overlook you because you were their friend. deirdre: well, that's a good point, indeed, dan. i mean, we've seen in europe that at the moment europe does not feel that way at all. they lowered the boom on alphabet google, but i understand what you're saying. maybe does the tech community feel somehow more insulated because senator sanders' visit roll has mostly been towards -- vitriol has been towards
bankers? we're entrepreneur, we're business owners, we're not bankers, so somehow maybe we will be spared? >> that could be the case too. what's really amazing about this, you look at the profit margins for the big silicon valley companies, they're higher than wall street, they're higher than, say, walmart and some of the other -- the oil to companies. the companies that get attacked by the left actually earn lower profits on average than the silicon valley companies. so maybe the silicon valley companies actually are buying themselves a little bit of a i wouldn't call it friendship, but they're buying themselves the ability not to be targeted by the politicians. and, of course, the average young person who's thinking, oh, bernie sanders is great, they're on their iphone, which is one of the most profitable products ever made. all these people who benefit from capitalism, and yet they want to support these high tax policies and bernie sanders who would destroy the very system that's made it possible for them to be rich as producers or to have great products as
consumers. it makes no sense whatsoever. deirdre: it doesn't make sense, and we're also even neglecting to talk about corporate taxes, and since you mentioned apple, makes me think, indeed, there is a lot of money overseas. apple is not the only one, but they leave money overseas because it is better for their balance sheet. dan mitchell, thank you. >> thank you. deirdre: from the cato institute. former all-star pitcher turned espn analyst curt schilling fired over what is being called an offensive transgender social media post. we're going to bring you some more context on that. also, donald trump responding earlier, find out whose side he's on. ♪ ♪ you both have a
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deirdre: espn analyst curt schilling fired after sharing and commenting on a controversial social media post about transgenders. so the post showed a picture of a man wearing a wig in women's clothing with the caption reading, "let him into the restroom with your daughter, or else you are a narrow-minded, judgmental, unloving, racist bigot who needs to die." schilling commented a man is a nanomatter what they call themselves -- nanomatter what they call themselves. now you need laws telling us differently? pathetic. for their thoughts, deneen borelli from the cary review as is milwaukee county sheriff david clark. first and foremost, he does have a right to say what he wants, right? freedom of speech? >> he absolutely does have a right to voice his own views and his opinions, and he should not be punished by espn which, by the way, is owned by disney which is a very progressive
company, deirdre. and they actually recently threatened to "america live" i have production -- move movie production from the state of georgia because of the religious liberties bill. so very hypocritical, and i think there's also a huge double standard here. deirdre: sheriff, i want to ask you from a security standpoint, that is one of your areas of specialty, how do you see this transgender issue? is it a threat? curt schilling said, you know, would you want your children -- which i understand -- in the same room as an adult who -- what is your take on this security only? >> well, you know, this thing is kind of interesting because, you know, we're talking about .3% of the population. when is the last time we had something that involves .3% of the population -- deirdre: that's a great point, sheriff. >> massive public policy shifts. you know, this is -- i'll correct you a little bit, but i know what you mean. this is not a first amendment issue, this is a freedom of expression. you know, the hallmark of a democracy is that we can express
ourselves in the public domain, and society will let us know if we've gone too far. espn has ever right to fire this guy. they can fire him for just about anything other than those protective things writing into the law, but this stifles speech. this is a totalitarian movement. i read here, it says espn, this is their quote, is an inclusive company. well, apparently, they're not so inclusive to somebody else's view. deirdre: that's well-stated, sheriff, and i'm glad you also brought out that .3% statistic. so, deneen, following up on what the sheriff said, obviously, he's right on this, but i guess from a corporate standpoint abc, owner of disney, has a right to say, okay, this is our brand,we feel like in this particular instance curt schilling was not gelled with our brands. >> well, again, he has the right to voice his own views and opinions, and as the sheriff mentioned, sure, they could fire
him which is what they have done. but i don't think that was the right move. and, again, when you look at someone like samuel l. jackson, for example, who is very controversial and makes very controversial statements, he is a spokesperson for a bank, capital one. he has yet to be removed from his spokesperson position. so, again, there's a huge double standard here based on the individual and also based on the companies. deirdre: all right. stay with me, both, if you don't mind. we have a quick break to take, but we will continue the conversation in just a few moments. more stories involving political correctness, visual messaging app snapchat under fire after releasing a bob marley video effect, and critics say it amounts to a digital version of -- [inaudible] also dr. ben carson taking some heat for comments he made about harriet tubman's new spot on the $20 bill. find out what he said in an interrue on this network --
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>> and andrew jackson was the last president who actually balanced the federal budget. where we had no national debt. neil: and here he gets kicked off the $20 bill. >> right. so in honor of that, we kick him off of the money. neil: are you anti-harriet tubman? >> no, no, i love harriet tubman, i love what she did. but we can find another way to honor her. maybe a $2 bill. deirdre: dr. ben carson with our own neil cavuto earlier. "usa today," tmz, just two of the outlets picking up his comments. so the $20 bill will change, other bills as well. for example, there will be a montage of women involved in the american suffrage movement on the back of the hamilton-led $10 bill. we are back with deneen borelli, sheriff david clarke. welcome back to you both.
so what is your tax, deneen -- take, deneen, on this decision? >> well, i think jack lew was pressured by women and women's groups. this is more political correctness. how ironic is it, deirdre, that under the obama administration andrew jackson, who was a slave owner and a democrat, is being replaced by a gun-holding, black female republican. how ironic is that? deirdre: well, there's a lot of people who say, hey, there's some sweet justice. there's a second amendment lawyer who weighed in on that in "the wall street journal," also because she was known to say if you turn back, i will shoot you, because we'll all be caught anyway. sheriff, i want to ask you, speaking of p.c., snapchat taking a lot of criticism for a filter it created called black face, or it looks like it's black face kind of meshed with bob marley complete with dreadlocks. users went on social media expressing disgust, in fact, one saying i'm disgusted by what
i've seen from snapchat today, cannot believe. there's a bob marley snapchat filter, black face is now okay apparently. so to what extent is a continuation of the p.c. overtones that end up being harmful somehow? >> well, i think it's another example of p.c. run amok. you know, this thing has disintegrated into ridiculousness now, that everybody walks around as if they have a right not to be offended. you do not have that in the united states, you do not have a right to not be offended. i should qualify that. too many people now are finding, you know, they wake up in the morning, and they're actually looking around, they're in search of something to be offended about and then claim victim status. you know, i find it kind of interesting. what i would have said to these clowns was, hey, go find a safe space and just get out of here. [laughter] deirdre: yeah. actually, recently npr did something with a cooking segment
where the question was actually put out to users, are you doing cultural appropriation if you seek to cook from another culture? which seemed just to underline your point, sheriff, this basically looking to be offended. speaking on much brighter tones and in a different kind of wavelength, i have to ask you, sheriff, since you are here, i know you were a huge fan of prince. the creative community, musical community at large certainly mourning the loss. were you going to concerts a lot? this is total curiosity. >> no, but at the time when he was at the top of the music charts, you know, i was out there in the dance clubs, and prince was one of my favorite, you know, the song "kiss," "raspberry beret," you know, there's "little red corvette," "purple rain." he was an icon. he was a talented musician, but he was an entertainer.
he understood entertainment. i think he's second only to, and you could argue this, michael jackson in terms of being an icon and defining that period of time. deirdre: yeah. as many people point out, pretty much every song whether it's r&b, whether it's pop, certainly owes a debt of gratitude towards prince. deneen, you're with us, do you have any thoughts on his passing? >> well, it's very shocking to hear that he passed, and i will admit that i did have a poster of prince -- [laughter] with a big afro in my room when i was a young teenager. i did enjoy his music and such a loss for our country. deirdre: yeah. he will be missed by many. sheriff david clarke, thank you for your time. deneen borelli, thank you. great to have you both with me. >> my pleasure. deirdre: just as a reminder, tonight fox business' kennedy hosting an hour-long special on the life and legacy of prince. you will not want to miss that. her program starts at 8 p.m. eastern time. she is going to have lots of great guests.
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