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he hasn't gone to california yet. so it's really a remarkable achievement. lou: and joining us here tonight donald trump's son eric, he is with us on how his father will help unite the republican party and bring victory in november. and more endorsements for trump including from former house speaker john boehner who said, quote, anyone who thinks donald trump can't win just watch. we'll take up trump's path to the presidency with ebony williams, chris plante, and the chairman of the rnc reince priebus today also meeting with trump. priebus said trump gets it. >> listen, i think donald trump gets it, i think he understands about being presidential and tone and tenor. i'm confident of that, and so i'm looking forward to moving forward next week and continuing this unification process. lou: as you might guess, the real question is does the republican establishment get it? lee carter, rich lowry join us
to talk about it. will "national review" lowrie get it and support trump you? will find out tonight. and bernie sanders says he's no zombie candidate, as his new attacks on hillary clinton drive democrats farther apart. stuart varney will be here to examine what that division means for the general election. our top story tonight, "the art of the deal" and how to get the job done, exactly what we saw with donald trump's highly anticipated meetings with speaker ryan. top republican lawmakers in the house and senate. the two men met for 45 minutes and afterwards speaker ryan said they agreed on the big issues. >> i was very encouraged with what i heard from donald trump today. i do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified, to bridge the gaps and differences. lou: and an interview that will air tonight with sean hannity, trump says ryan is a man he can do business with.
>> i think he's doing a good job. not an easy job, and i don't mind going through a little slow process, it's a very big subject. we have a lot of things, and i think for the most part we agree on a lot of different items, and we're getting there. i feel very strongly about border security. i feel very strongly about trade. i feel very strongly about building up the military. and to a large extent, i think paul is there also. lou: joining us, the son of the presumptive republican presidential nominee, the vice president of development and acquisitions for the trump organization, eric trump. eric, great to have you here. >> great to be here, lou. great to be here. lou: let's start with all that happened in washington. mr. trump goes to washington. how does he feel he did? is he pleased with the results? >> very pleased. talking to him, i was walking down today, he's pleased. you got to get to know these people. he's never walked the streets of washington, d.c. never walked capitol hill. this isn't his thing.
he's built an amazing real estate empire and he had a great conversation with paul ryan today and a lot of other people. listen in time, he'll get to know these people. they'll get to like him. what he's done for the republican party is amazing. amazing. the amount of votes and everything else is amazing. i hope they jump on the bandwagon because he's a winner and can win this thing. lou: he is a winner and he is winning, as someone i like very much, respect very much said donald trump walked into a dark alley with 16 others and is the only one torques merge. so what is the secret of your father's success, in an area where he's never contested an election run for office? >> probably being a person and not a robot. i say that sincerely. how many times do you see these candidates up on stage and it's the same rehearsed statement over and over. can you tell they rehearsed it 400 times in front of a mirror. he talk from the heart and he doesn't care and doesn't tiptoe around issues and speaks issue
tos, and issues may be controversial, and some they might like and won't like, and lot of the issues people have dodged historically over time, but also the issues that have cost this country tremendously, and he takes the issues head on. he's doing this for the american people. he doesn't need it, he's self-funding, that resonates with a lot of people. lou: the reason he's winning is because he's addressed those issues head on. he's talked about conservatism, i don't know whether it surprised you or not, he said it's not the conservative party, he said it's the republican party. >> that's right. lou: that needed to be articulated. your father has this inherent ability to communicate what is required at the moment, whether it be initially dealing with illegal immigration and border security, free and fair international trade. 2015 just turned out to be the all-time record for deficits with china. so where does he get this knack? >> he's been saying it forever,
talking about trade forever and how bad nafta was and how bad tpp was for the country. if you look at manufacturing jobs since 2000, it's a straight line downward. we don't make anything anymore, don't produce anything anymore. when i hear a public leader say you have to come into our party, and i look at my father and he's got 10, 11, 12 million voters behind him. more enthusiasm than i've ever seen for any candidate, unprecedented enthusiasm against maybe the strongest republican field ever, kind of like it may be your party, it's the people's party at this point, and it's interesting to see the dichotomy. lou: interesting, eric, to see the republican party now with more -- more voters showing up than they know what to do with, in point of fact. the national apparatus, talking about primarily the republican national committee, some of the capitol hill leadership, it's as if they don't know what to do with people coming into the party. growing the tent. and to see this resistance on
the part of particularly paul ryan. i know everybody is happy and making nice, but as i watch paul ryan, i'm incredulous, i've been covering presidents and national politics for, this will shock you, but longer than you've been around. about 40 years, and i've never seen anything like it. motives that are inexplicable, decisions, choices that are made that have nothing to do with the good of the party, it's bizarre. >> yeah, and listen, to me as a nonpolitician it was shocking, too. the initial move without the endorsement is shocking. you look at pennsylvania, the western part of the state. 180,000 democrats and independents switched to the republican party just in the primary to vote for my father. you look at west virginia. 40% of bernie sanders supporters wouldn't vote for hillary clinton, in the general election they'll vote for donald trump. you have hoards and hoards of people coming in, in the primaries doing that, you should grab these people. it's time for the republican party to grow.
the republican party has been shrinking. here is somebody grabbing onto a massive movement of people, i wish the party would get behind it. he's a winner, knows how to win, and he'll win this thing, and he'll work tirelessly to win, it he'll work harder than anybody. lou: that's one of the things i've seen few address. the fact is your dad is a pretty smart fellow. no doubt about that. he's a pretty innovative fellow and a great communicator, but he works like hell. nobody in this field of what was once 17 candidates, those other 16 didn't come close to working as hard as he did. >> lou, i'm on the road with him. we'll go to four events where he's speaking to 20,000 people. and another event, 20,000 people. do you it four times. i can't believe this -- i said this, i can't believe you still have a voice. on the plane, he's talking to reporters. we're having fun together. he's got the energy level of a
30-year-old. it's amazing. lou: has he always had that or is he energized by the battle? big in the arena. >> certainly energized by the battle, but always been a guy that works tirelessly at what he works, i call him the energizer bunny, that's what we need as commander in chief, somebody who will work tirelessly for the american people, and that's what the man will do. he doesn't know any different way, he just doesn't know any different way. that's what he's going to do. lou: eric trump, great to have you with us. >> thank you so much. lou: i'm going to take your recommendation there as an objective voice, because i've often said, you know, you can be objective, it doesn't mean you have to be neutral, and it's great to have you here. good luck. >> thank you, thank you. lou: eric trump. coming right back, much more straight ahead. stay with us. donald trump and house speaker paul ryan coming together. >> it's very important that we
don't fake unifying, we don't pretend unification, that we truly and actually unify so we are full strength in the fall. lou: so when does ryan come to his senses and officially endorse trump? what's his deal? eboni williams and chris plante join us here next. and a bald eagle swoops in with its eyes and more on the prize. prize. we'll shi'm in vests and as a vested investor in vests, i invest with e*trade, where investors can investigate and invest in vests... or not in vests. sign up at etrade.com and get up to six hundred dollars.
. lou: donald trump today picking up a number of endorsements. john boehner backing the presumptive presidential nominee saying, quote, anyone who thinks donald trump can't win, just watch. president george h.w. bush said he won't endorse trump but his vice president did. vice president dan quayle announcing his support, and newt gingrich, the former speaker endorsing trump. he also asked if he'd be trump's vice president. >> well, i'd certainly talk about it, i wouldn't turn it down automatically. and callista and i are both aware of the importance of being good citizens, it keeps getting brought up because you keep bringing it up. lou: darn media! joiningug the host of the chris plante show, chris plante! and fox news contributor eboni
williams. eboni, first, it appears that donald trump and speaker ryan at least have some form of rapprochement and are ready to move forward in a positive manner, that doesn't sound like an endorsement. >> short of that. we're seeing the art of deal at play. i had no doubt going into the meeting, donald had a specific goal to get what they have in common down, i think from there, you grow it. that's what i think. lou: chris? >> well, paul ryan is kind of a unique position as speaker of the house, and he's got to play possum or loses all leverage. if he's looking to push donald trump in one direction or another on one issue or another, and we know that he is, then he can't exercise that leverage if he comes out now and endorses him, that is the art of the deal as eboni said, paul ryan is playing the cards he's dealt and i expect him to haggle and negotiate and the
party is going to do that with donald trump over the major issues and the minor issues from this point forward, i expect. i expect ryan to get on board with everyone else, i would expect. >> i would expect. i'll join you in the i would expect. [ laughter ] >> but i think the optics today were incredible. there's trump with his convoy of big suvs looking for all the world, you want him to be presidential, he looked presidential and filled up all of the space that a bigger than life character like him will do, and then you had the almost, i thought very uncomfortable paul ryan, whether he was before the cameras or actually at the podium, he didn't look good in all of this, even as he's talking, he looks kind of -- i don't know -- >> defeated? is that the word? lou: he looked small by comparison. when you think about it, he is. he's playing obstructionist
rather than partner. that's a really bizarre choice for him to have made. >> i was talking to dr. gina loudon in the green room, she's a psychologist. seems like there's a generational split if you will. some of the older statesman in the gop, boehner coming out, they're falling in line with the trump candidacy, but we look at paul ryan still so reluctant, younger people, rubio and what not, so reluctant, here's what they think. maybe they feel like trump represents an interruption of their expected trajectory in this party. lou: he's an interruption, a disruption, he's a new man for the party, you are exactly right. here's the great disrupter, he is anti-establishment and talking with a 17-year now congressman who i think is two years from the time he graduated from college he spent in washington, d.c., the
personification of the establishment. the fact they got along this far to me is impressive. >> well, listen, it's been a big food fight and donald trump plays rough, and paul ryan is in a tough situation, if it were any other republican speaker of the house, they'd be in a similarly tough situation like reince priebus says. lou: what's so tough? what's so tough? >> you have trump who is -- >> you have the presumptive nominee of the party, should be like that. >> he's a bit rogue, not a traditional republican, not a traditional conservative. lou: he's a guy who wants to cut social security, medicare. he is establishment, he's not even conservative for crying out loud? >> you're talking about paul ryan? lou: yes. >> paul ryan has that problem too, he has problem with the right flank, the conservative wing of the conservative party. he has problem built-in without donald trump. donald trump comes along and he's in the middle of two great tectonic forces that are
colliding inside of the political party and paul ryan is the highest-ranking setting aside the presumptive nominee the highest-ranking nominee in the country. lou: is that the problem? >> it's a power play, of course it is, lou. lou: suddenly paul ryan understands that donald trump is the boss? >> absolutely. lou: is that really the problem? >> absolutely, it was gracious of mr. trump to defer to paul ryan as the person in charge of the gop and everyone in america knows that's not true. certainly this is trump's party, and i think that absolutely that is a tough pill for the gop establishment to swallow. i think reince priebus is having a tough time but ultimately i believe the gop will get in line. it will not serve to stay divided in this. >> i certainly hope you are right, eboni, in the meantime, you're going to see pressure applied to donald trump regarding specific issues and regarding the broad brush and conservative principles, issues. >> what is the leverage? what world do they have leverage to get trump on the agenda.
lou: i just get a kick out of reince priebus saying donald trump gets it. [ laughter ] >> that was very impressive. >> we're going to see a lot of that sort of thing in the coming weeks. lou: senator cornyn said he could word things a little better. sorry. a lot of folks have gotten it but few holdouts in the republican party. i think they'll come around or suffocate. chris plante, eboni williams, thanks for being with us. >> thank you, lou. lou: be sure to vote in our poll tonight -- looks that way, doesn't it, cast your vote on twitter. follow me on twitter, "like" me on facebook, follow me on instagram at lou dobbs tonight. great pictures there, some have me in it. those are not really what we call the great pictures. loudobbs.com, everything. the pictures are all right. a fisherman catching a surprise at the end of his line.
here's the incredible moment a bald eagle dive bombed a trout, snatching it off a fisherman's -- well, off his line in maple lake ontario. the resident eagle known for stealing fish from unsuspecting fishermen. the clever bird finding a way to pinch a lunch. smarter than the fisherman. where does this leave the fish? down the food chain, i believe. up next, bernie sanders fresh off his recent string of primary victories. man is he creating problems for one hillary clinton, and highlighting the deep divisions in the democratic party. >> in state after state, and not just in the states that we win, it turns out that we get far more votes than secretary clinton from people 45 years of age and younger. [cheers] . lou: the divided democratic
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. lou: a few thoughts now on party divisions in this election, some of the divisions are manufactured, some organic and very real. for the republicans, most of the fault lines between factions are manufactured. a failed ticket from four years ago appears embittered, petty or political ambitions frustrated by the trump phenomenon. in the case of paul ryan his intransigence is the result of being on the wrong side of history and being an unlucky thinker. while ryan needs more time to do the right thing for his party, apparently, trump does the right thing instinctively, he speaks optimistically about our future, nation's future, trump wants to restore prosperity for all americans, and ryan sounds and looks more like a mournful morose
bureaucrat saying not something you do in 45 minutes. not about him, when it is. not the most important event or whatever, and on it goes with ryan. but today trump pressed on irrepressably as the natural optimistic leader he is. you may not like what he says but by god leaves no doubt about himself, and what about the other folks? take a look what's happening with the democrats. hillary clinton can't shake sanders. clinton has won 26 contests to sanders 20 including west virginia where clinton lost two-thirds of support level from 2008 and 43% of sanders supporters say they vote for trump in november. only 27% would vote for clinton, and that's not a national snapshot, but it does show you what's happening in at least one state and likely many more. sanders campaign manager warning, in fact, democrats that nominating clinton would
risk disaster, disaster simply to protect the status quo. a disaster indeed but sanders won't hit clinton over e-mail scandals something the fbi director feels under pressure to complete, i hope so. the dems are downright depressing these days. they seem to fear so much. such victims. seem grateful for nothing, and their hopes seem small, at least as expressed by those who would lead them. former speaker boehner today said that because of clinton's e-mail scandal he wouldn't be surprised if biden, quote, arrived in a parachute inflated by obama to save the convention. just a day after biden claimed he would have been the best president. the democrats appear to be heading into a contentious convention and if so, they will leave philadelphia in a sour mood, satisfied only in the little that they would do for the nation. and they'll be no match for donald trump. the resurgent optimistic party
he's building and the nation anxious for brighter days and much brighter stars to follow. our quotation of the evening, on optimism tonight, this from winston churchill who said -- these are times for an optimist. we're coming right back. the gop is warming to trump, rnc chairman reince priebus has a message for paul ryan. >> we want to get to a unified party, roll up our sleeves and figure out how to get it done. lou: lee carter and rich lowry join us here next. and it's a duel between the 21st century and medieval times, we'll show you the video after these very modern
. lou: after nearly a year of waste their money on losing candidates, california republicans can finally back a winner. donald trump set to begin his fund-raising efforts in los angeles later this month. the fund-raiser hosted by real estate investor thomas barak will be the first of as many as 50 events for the presumptive nominee. he aims to raise about a billion dollars. billionaire t. boone pickens will be hosting a fund-raiser
for a pro-trump super pac, when boon raises money, he raises big money. joining us political strategist lee carter, great to have you here, lee. editor of the "national review," fox news contributor in from vienna after the "national review" cruise. great to have you back with us. >> hi, lou. lou: lee, let's begin with you, trump goes washington. seems he's had his way down there. the optics, he looked presidential. he's talking presidential. he is above certainly the recalcitrants, you know, he's very nice, very gracious, magnanimous with paul ryan, but ryan looks small with trump there. >> you know, i think it ended up being a fantastic meeting. not to quote him. but i think the whole thing played out perfectly for donald trump. a, because i think that donald
trump, it would have been completely inauthentic if paul ryan said i endorse and you we're going to be best friends. lou: how nice he's been authentic. >> authenticity is one of the most important things we have right now. >> i was just being -- i was just kidding, just kidding. >> yes. lou: because the authenticity of this moment seems to be highly manufactured on the part of ryan. his motives are unclear, the purpose and the perceived benefits of his approach, his strategy here are absolutely okay. >> if he said i don't want to endorse trump, that was sincere, but when he said eventual endorsement, that would be insincere. i don't think it was sustainable position for paul ryan, it makes sense to have a meeting and sit down and see if you have meetings of minds, of course you're not going to have meetings of mind between the two because they represent different tendencies on the
right. ryan offering little comfort saying his iconic message for the primaries is he's going to ban all muslim travel into the united states was just a suggestion. lou: it was just a suggestion, and my god think about this rich lowry, you're so anti-trump, your blood must curdle at times! >> no, but it was just a suggestion? lou: i'd like to get both your views here. what's ignored is paul ryan proposed cutting medicare and built a 2012 platform around it, cutting medicare, cutting social security for people, there's a contract there. he wants to break. in favor of whom? the establishment of the status quo rather than the middle class working men and women and their families, that, by the way, you may not have noticed here, but the fact is donald trump is winning millions and millions of new votes by taking the positions that he has whether it be the wall, whether
it be america first as a foreign policy or whether it be free and fair trade. >> interesting you mention entitlements, another thing where the trump campaign came out today and said he might be in favor of changing entitlements. >> he said he's going to look at them. >> right, after being adamantly opposed. what trump has told us the last two weeks, every single thing is negotiable. if you think he's stick by the wall or deporting every illegal immigrant, you're grievously mistaken. >> but i actually think -- lou: so far no one has been right about the course of the -- [ laughter ] >> you never mentioned that the muslim ban was a suggestion. now i know i guess. lou: more reflection on what we're doing here. no problem with that at all. >> the american voter likes the fact he's willing to negotiate, that likes the fact he's said this is a starting point, let's have a conversation, go back and forth. a lot of the language he's used for the process is a language of a businessman, i'm going to
make deals. he said i know i'm going to have to get this to the house, to the senate, and we're going to have to pull back a little bit, but it's a starting point and he's doing so well, controlling conversations but not only, that forcing us to have conversations that we haven't been able to have in a really long time. and i think a lot of people like that about him. >> this is one reason he is going to be very tough for hillary to handle and much harder than democrats think. he'll attack her from the left when it's convenient. attack her from the right when it's convenient. portray himself as the compromiser and the deal maker and the negotiator who can get along with both sides including the democrats when she's locked in the hostile relationship. lou: he will lead from the center? >> yes. lou: my god, it is a frightening prospect. >> this has been the key to trump. lou: you haven't had a conservative -- when is the last time you had a conservative in the white house? when is the last time a so-called conservative actually took control of the government from the oval office and behaved as a conservative? who would that be?
>> reagan and a brief period after the republican revolution in 1994, when you had conservatives genuinely interested in cutting and restraining government, briefly. lou: i guess you're referring to balancing a budget, when you say that? >> restraining spending. lou: okay, restraining spending. >> which is unfortunately the best we can do in this universe. you have to be really committed to doing it. and trump, this is the first time in our lifetimes that the government won't be an issue in a general election, it doesn't interest him. lou: lee, we've seen the government do nothing but expand and grow under alleged conservatives like george w. bush who was nothing of the sort. h.w. bush who did have the principle and the character to make adjustment was punished at the polls for doing so. his son took a lesson from that as well.
you know, i just love the idea that there's this idea that you're going prejudge what will happen. we know what will happen under hillary clinton and every damn conservative in the country does. you're going to see another four years of barack obama and all of the mad scandals that follow her and the new ones she'll manufacture. >> and i think that there's very much of a sense through the that hillary clinton is continuing barack obama's promise that things are getting better, that the economy is just fine, that jobs are growing, and seeing study after study and poll after poll. 91% of americans don't feel better. they don't feel confident in the economy, and so it can really make it hard to trust her, things are out of touch. and trump says it's not okay, we're going to fix it. a lot of the average american, a lot of the people you talk to say what he's putting out there might not make sense all of the time but sometimes it becomes common sense. lou: the american people are judging he is the only one
making a lick of sense in confronting the realities that they face. lee, great to have you here. >> great to be here. lou: rich, you grumpy son of a gun. we're going to bring you to the promise land. the past colliding with the future. a participant did what any soldier in the middle ages would have done. he threw his javeline at the foreign object in the sky and knocked it to the ground. the warrior we're told paid for the damage. watch this. i mean threw the spear that high in the air and hit the drone. there's got to be a regulation of some sort being violated in all of that. up next, donald trump goes washington. washington quickly rallies around him and leaves the important part. stuart varney joins us next to take up how trump is doing and uniting -- i can barely say the word, uniting republicans as the split among democrats worsens and widens.
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is right, on the west coast. thanks for being here. >> good to be here. lou: this is fascinating to watch the democratic party divide at a far greater rate and certainly in an epic fashion compared to the little ryan whatever it is contratem. >> as of right now, the split in the democrats is far more profound than the split among republicans. split among republicans will eventually and inevitably be papered over. they will get together, it has to happen. >> have you figured out what in the hell is paul ryan doing? what is his motivation. >> he's playing defense, he has to. yes, he has to. lou: because he's a junior leaguer here? >> he represents the party. he's not going to reject the nominee. the guy who brought literally millions of people into the party, who's won all of the states. lou: why would he continue to play hamlet.
i get so tired of ambiguity, his preference -- >> i'm laughing because i've been watching your show tonight, i've seen what preceded us. lou: well, i'm a little irked. i will confess. >> righteously so. lou: doesn't seem adult to me. >> you're right. it is absolutely inevitable that the two sides, if you want to put it like that, will get together. it is inconceivable that the republicans will edge away from the man who is going to represent them in november. inconceivable that will happen, and it will be madness if they did. lou: and as you point out, the man who's made this all possible is the presumptive nominee, who is bringing in millions of people, he said he would put in play states he's -- in the latest "quinnipiac poll," put in play, ohio, florida and pennsylvania, if he brings those -- if he delivers those states to his column, katy bar the door. >> wait a second. let me shock you, shockable,
let me shock you. lou: i am shocked. >> i think it is remotely possible that donald trump could put california in play. lou: do you really? >> i do. i don't think california has gone republican in a national election probably since '84 when i think reagan won. lou: george h.w. bush won. >> talk '88. 20 odd years, whatever it is. i think that donald trump, of all people, he could be the one who will put california in play, especially if his opponent is hillary clinton. as you pointed out earlier on the show today, he's going to california at the end of this month. he's holding, i'm told 30-50 events, walking right into hillary's country, taking money out of hillary land, and don't you love it, and he'll get the money, and there will be large crowds of people. lou: that will be, as you point out, that's going to be an interesting barometer, a metric that we can watch, that is the amount of money that he does
raise when he is in the -- what is it the golden state? >> the formerly golden state. i'm being nasty of course. they wrecked it themselves, haven't they? lou: they're looking for a savior and donald trump says he'll help. >> i first met you, first talked to you when i was working in san francisco. that was the good old days of the 1970s. california was a dynamic state. lou: that's right. i was just getting out of high school. >> stop it! [laughter]. >> look at it now. they've run this thing into the ground, and donald trump will put that state in play. i think it's a possibility that he will do that. and i'm cheering him on. lou: good for you. i will join you in a loud cheer in that direction as well. think about it. take california, what a grand, a grand outlook. >> don't you love it? lou: i do. the optimistic stuart varney. and can you catch him every single weekday morning, "varney
& co.," weekdays starting at 9:00 a.m. eastern, 6:00 western right here on the fox business network. great to see you, my friend. >> thank you, lou. lou: up next a major defeat for president obama in court. lis wiehl and rebecca rose woodland will be with us. stay with us. we're coming right back. i can't wait. how about you? >> i'll be here.
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lou: the obama administration is expected to appeal. it's take two years to get to this point. but an important victory for the republican party and house republicans led by speaker john boehner who initiated the suit. joining me lis weihl. overreach on the part of the obama administration, the judge finding for the republicans. >> the judge is saying you should have taken a civics 101 in class. there is congress, legislative, and executive, and the congress
holds the purse strings and you are supposed to go through congress to get the purse strings and they are the people who are supposed to decide where the money goes and how it's spent. lou: to have to go to court to do this, on its face it's absurd. the republicans said it i. the speaker of the house of representatives said it. but this administration arrogantly plows ahead. it will take years to get this years to get it ajude kateed. -- adjudicated. >> part of defense is the statute wasn't written properly. who wrote obamacare? what is the name of the law. you were peept that put it forth. you wrote it, now you are saying we didn't know it was that clear. first of all it comes from the separation of power doctrine
that congress appropriates money. lou: the chief justice john roberts court found in terms of the mandate they were in point of fact taxes not fines even though they are specifically referred to as fines. the game being blade this onerous horrible law that is not working and is crushing insurance companies and crushing our treasury and taxpayers, the supreme court played games. now we have a judge -- the district court saying you have got to straighten it out. >> this court said she knew she would be appealed. she stayed the decision which meant i know i'll be appealed, so would i decision doesn't mean anything. i will stay it. the appellate court will decide.
everything is held right now. lou: they said obamacare is an >> in this situation it's an overreach because they appropriated money that was not appropriated from congress. lou: for any american who cares about government and our economy understands this is an overreach. this is a president who lived in overreach for 7 1/2 years. >> the money isn't there. >> he's taking money. it's like executive orders. lou: the companies are going bankrupt. the fools who wrote this, the lying fools. there will be a reckoning. >> now the court have to step in and do it. lou: let me turn to this one. the euphemism of the decade.
loretta lynch referring to criminals, felons, convicts as justice involved youths, saying convicts who turn to a life of crime early on are the future. what in the world? .the law have any conscience? i guess the politic of the obama administration, they are left wing nuts. but the bar association -- what in the world are you people doing? >> we are worried about hurting these poor little things, worried about their feeling going out. i'm glad there is a lot of space in between. >> if you have probation issue where you had a minor -- but she is addressing felons. >> we can't think them as felons. they are justice-involved youth.
lou: if we didn't like -- >> involved in the criminal justice system. >> they are involved all right. lou: tell me a rational intelligent principled person elected to the white house will be able to swallow this when he take over january 20? >> it will be very * easy to fix. all you have to do i replace the people instead of creating the problem. lou: 84% of you say paul ryan should take it upon himself to resign as gop convention chair and perhaps speaker to achieve party unity which he seems to continue express his fervent desire, he could help out. what do you know.
ozzy tweeted out, the establishment can get on the trump train or get run over. it's simple. never change, trump. there it i. thanks for being with us. good night from new york. [♪] kennedy: oh, mercy, welcome aboard. last show of the week. let's make it fantastic. i am watching hillary clinton who had it up to her in the toughest part of her campaign as she battled a consider mish on two fronts. she is the meat in a man's sandwich as they squeeze her like a thigh master to try to get her out of the race. donald trump has been going after her the last few weeks saying she is crooked as the colorado river and nasty as a hornet.