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they keep stringing us along on rates. >> indeed. liz: bill lee of citigroup saying watch out, september is the meet wearing we might have a rate hike. markets down four days in a row. connell mcshane and melissa francis pick up here for "after the bell." >> liz, stocks ending the day in the red. the fourth day in a row we've seen it. connell mcshane in today for david asman. melissa: i'm melissa francis, this is "after the bell." we've got you covered on the big movers and the market. here's what else we have for you this hour. new details surfacing on the orlando shooter, motives and involvement of his wife. we'll take you live to orlando for the latest. while president obama is fired up this afternoon responding to attacks from republicans who say political correctness is putting our nation at risk. and we've heard about troubles with trump university. do you know the clintons had a much bigger university scandal of their own?
charles ortell, the financial whistle-blower who found major gaps in the clinton global initiative record says there is cause for concern. he will explain. >> stocks tumbling again today. certainly closing off the lows of the session, but take a look at things in the dow 30 there. am among the big losers. phil flynn watching all the action such as it was in chicago. oil and gold. we'll talk to phil about them both at cme in a moment. lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. we fought back towards the end, right, lori? >> reporter: we did, we did close off the lows of the session, connell. what's telling is the vix, the volatility index, the market gauge of fear. it has been up six consecutive sessions, the vick slipped back half a point. a level at 20. if we had closed on the vix at
highest levels we've seen today, the vix would have been at highest level since february 24th. that date is important, two days after the recent market low. continued fear, continued uncertainty, you've got the brexit vote next week and, of course, the federal reserve started two-day meeting. we'll hear decision on interest rates tomorrow afternoon. let's look at the home improvement stocks. this is a story. retail sales numbers which were pretty good. but the component showing the sales and building material and garden equipment. that was a shocking decline of almost 2%, and home depot is a major component of that part of that sales reading. so home depot and lowe's were losers today, home depot shaving 17 or 18 points off the dow jones industrial average. airlines down for a second day again. one of the weakest sectors on the s&p 500 index. raymond james cutting the price target for american and delta, all of this related to the terror attacks in orlando.
poputourt destination. guys, back over to you. melissa: great report. thank you so much. phil, what are traders saying about that? >> if it weren't for the fear in the marketplace, oil prices would have rallied. and to show you how bad the fear is, we had two stories that would have normally sent prices soaring. number one the international energy agency saying guess what, demand is stronger than we thought it was. supplies are falling because of concerns about nigeria and other places, we'll be in balance by the end of the year. nobody thought that was possible a couple months ago. venezuela production fallen off the map, normally that would bring us up. it's not going to happen. we're worried about the brexit. we're worried about the fed. gold traders worried about the fed, they've seen gold prices go up five days in a row. we saw the industrial metals
weaker like platinums and palladiums, that shows you a risk immersion trade going on right now. now most gold traders got walloped by the fed because the fed said they were going to raise rates maybe tomorrow, that's probably not going to happen. gold prices back up. back to you. melissa: phil, thank you so much. connell? >> for more on the sell-off on wall street, investors think it's fair to say after listening to phil and lori searching for safety. we bring in our panel of scott martin, a fox news contributor and john patridis of wealth management. scott, the vote in the u.k. how the u.k. leaving the eu, why is that such a big deal for us here? what's the financial impact of your view of it? >> i think it just signifies more the destabiling effect that a brexit would have on the overall idea of the european union. i get your point. i think it is funny that here
we are a day before the fed decision and a week before the britain vote, and now the market's freaking out. this kind of stuff to me was evident weeks ago and the market was whistling by the graveyard. >> something else going on here? >> i don't think so. i think as an investor you've got to stay nimble and trades you are confident in. bonds, i like long bonds and call me gold member, i love gold. i think gold is the place to be if you want to hedge bonds and stocks. >> wouldn't be the first thing i call you, but certainly on the list. john, let me ask you about what scott praut up which is lower interest rates. that's another one of the big headlines today, right? we wake up and see the german bond yield's gone negative. what does that tell but fear worldwide related to the u.k. vote we're waiting for. >> that's right. investors in the u.k. and in europe are fleeing to safety, the german bund, driving
negative rates and clearly the u.s. ten year is the worst on the block right now despite the fact janet yellen and the fed may or may not act on. melissa: consumer spending remains strong, retail sales beating expectations and macy's testing a new concept store revamping a location in ohio to include lifestyle sections, and attempting to get shoppers to pay full price. scott martin, they don't want to go into a storm. if you look to retail sales, it was all about online, now you want them to pay full price? >> and come in the store, that is the double whammy. if you want to keep customers away, ask them to come into the store and pay full price. i don't know what macy's is thinking, you look at shopper surveys, things that people like when they go into a store, it is the shopping experience. melissa, this might work on a last-ditch effort on a company
heading down word. melissa: can i temp john petrides with lululemon. have their is a juice bar, you look like a juice bar guy, no? >> i wish. they understand e-commerce is eating their lunch. no pun intended. ron johnson touched on j.c. penney though it was a failed attempt, tried to create the genius bars and create a jeans bar at j.c. penney and it flopped. macy's was ahead of the competition. largest retail apparel stores in the country, and now trying to reinnovate to keep momentum to the stores. >> i want to play off the pun on eating lunch. we have a chipotle story today. the stock, there it is, at a three-year low earlier in the day today.
it bounced back. there's an analyst that warned that chipotle could have customers that are lost for good. in other words, never coming back because of the e.coli crisis. gold member -- i mean scott. is that something that you -- have you been back to chipotle? i've been back, full disclosure twice since the crisis. melissa: not me. >> were you a chipotle guy number one and you have been back since? >> that's the thing. i never really was. i've been back since the scare, i'm the wrong guy to ask. to say they've lost customers completely seems wrong to me. customers always come back unless you really blow it. i think chipotle's problem is they haven't changed the menu in years. no innovative food concepts there. that's the thing when you look at hip fast food that a lot of the restaurants need to do to keep getting the customers in the door. >> this thing called civic science did a survey whether
or not they liked chipotle. the people that didn't like it increased 24% to 18% in the fourth quarter of last year. things like that are leading analysts to say this may have not only a long-lasting but permanent effect. it's so deep in people's minds they can't get it out of the minds. >> every good consumer brain goes through hardship at some point in time. johnson & johnson had to recall tylenol because it killed seven people and here we are 40 years later. the stock price, not necessarily the business. the stock is trading at 34 times earnings and expected to grow earnings 40% from 2018 from 2017. from a business standpoint, if the four of us wanted to open a burrito joint, we can do that. tremendous substitution effect. you don't have to eat at chipotle for breakfast, lunch or dinner. >> i don't think melissa is interested in that. thank you so much, scott and john.
melissa: the dnc hit by a serious security breach. what russian hackers now have that could be a huge problem for them in hillary clinton's campaign? >> tributes continue around the world for the victims of the attack in orlando. what we now know about the shooter and his motives. melissa: and president obama responding to attacks from donald trump and other republicans over his reluctant to use the term radical islam in relation to recent terror attacks in the u.s. >> calling a threat by a different name does not make it go away. this is a political distraction. get ready for the rio olympic games
coming in, a high level of premedication the shooter omar mateen visited the nightclub where the attack took place before they took place. we learned that, and fox news confirmed that his wife knew something about the plot. jeff flock in orlando here to fill us in on the blanks. >> reporter: high level of premedation or another motive for visiting the gay bar where this took place for perhaps a period of three years. first, to the new information about the wife, she is said to be cooperating with authorities. she has been questioned. she apparently has said that she knew at least in some fashion that he had been planning some sort of attack but tried to talk him out of it. it is possible given that law enforcement sources, as our wind blows up here, have said that is possible she would be charged.
as to whether there was any connection with any foreign terror groups in the shooting, this has not been determined. the president today saying quite clearly at this point week have no evidence to suggest that. president obama. >> we currently do not have any information to indicate that a foreign terrorist group directed the attack in orlando. >> reporter: short and sweet from the president. and lastly on on this business about his visits to this club down the street there, and we hope to get a better picture of this tomorrow, move farther down the street. i think they're going to collapse the barricades that they have for a while, but apparently according to people that frequented the club, mateen visited this club for a period of over three years. he also used apparently a gay dating app, something called jacked. hardened terrorist?
homophobe or more complex in his personality. that we're hoping to get as time goes on. connell: jeff flock, melissa? melissa: the president referring to the label of, quote, a political talking point, listen. >> what exactly would using this label accomplish? what exactly would it change? it would make isil less committed to trying to kill americans? would it bring in more allies? is there a military strategy that is served by this? the answer is none of the above. melissa: here now sebastian gorka chairman of the threat knowledge group. do you agree? there is no advantage to using the term? >> i'd ask the president when you've got a patient in a hospital or clinic, does it matter what you diagnose them
with? if they have tuberculosis, and you say doesn't matter, you've got a cold. do you think that matters to the patient? do you think if you give them two aspirins and they have tb, they're not going to die? this is absurd. how can the correct naming of a threat not be important? melissa: he's trying to say he's treating it the same way, it's all just the label. >> rubbish. melissa: how should he be treating it differently. call would it change the behavior of other countries? >> the fact is the white house is wedded to terrorism is the result of poverty and lack of education. that's why they refuse to call it what it is, a religiously fueled jihad. if we started to accurately talk about it, yes, we would have allies say,y gosh, america finally gets it and they care. it would be incredibly
symbolically important and operationally. fbi guys i know are fed up of getting this pc stuff driven down their throats. melissa: at the top of the speech, i watched it from top to bottom, he started saying he called this a disturbed young man who was basically almost depressed and wandering around on the internet. he blamed the internet and said at the very last moment, he pledged allegiance to isis, but there is no evidence this was directed by isis. trying to mitigate and isolate this as a single sort of crazy depressed individual. >> what different does that make to the 49 dead people? it makes no difference at all. why are we always looking for excuses? did we say adolf hitler and dr. mengolee had a bad childhood.
did we say stalin and khrushchev weren't hugged by their daddies as little boys. you are looking to make the perpetrator a victim. it's shameful. melissa: he's trying to say using the label you are enflaming the rest of the muslim community that would help you? >> let me ask you, do we think it makes a difference to isis? do we think they are going to be deadlier? melissa: what about the moderate muslims. >> president sisi went to the equivalent of the vatican two a powerful clerics, you have to help me engender a revolution in islam because the jihadis are winning. if he knows it, if king abdullah says this is a religious war inside islam, we are undermining our muslim allies saying these are not the droids you are looking for, has nothing to do with religion, it's about poverty and closeted homosexuality.
we're undermining our muslim allies. melissa: sebastian gorka, thank you very much. connell? connell: a city on high alert, paris. a man investigated for terror ties stabbed a french police chief to death and proceeded to torture the man's wife while streaming the attack on facebook. facebook live. isis claiming responsibility for the murders. the grantville divide is standing, the newest effort to prevent donald trump from being the republican nominee coming up. melissa: remembering the lives lost in orlando and the latest on those still in critical condition.. >> yelling at him? >> didn't hear anything. all i could hear, and even last night when i was trying go sleep, all i could hear were gunshots.
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candidates for president hillary clinton and bernie sanders keeping ahead of the face-to-face meeting between the two of them. some say that meeting could decide the future of the party and fox news' jennifer griffin is all over it, she joins us with the latest. jennifer? >> reporter: hi, connell, we asked bernie sanders at his headquarters on capitol hill moments ago whether he planned to endorse hillary clinton tonight. why do you continue to refuse to endorse hillary clinton? don't you think your refusal is helping donald trump? >> i think that what has to happen and what this fight has always been about is transforming america. it is standing up for working people. it is fighting for a progressive agenda which serve the needs of working people and not powerful corporate interests. we're going to take that fight into the convention in philadelphia. >> reporter: in pittsburgh, a
few hours ago, hillary clinton did not mention sanders but took the gloves off with an angry rebuttal to donald trump. she challenged the republican leaders to condemn trump's recent remarks in the wake of the orlando attack. >> just one day after the massacre. he went on tv and suggested that president obama is on the side of the terrorists. [booing] >> just think about that for a second. even in a time of divided politics, this is way beyond anything that should be said by someone running for president of the united states. [ applause ] >> reporter: connell, clinton will meet sanders at an undisclosed location later tonight. aides tell us to expect sanders
will not concede this evening. that's what we're hearing from the headquarters. connell: a neutral location, i like that, thanks. melissa: russian hackers broke into the dnc database and stolen key opposition research on donald trump. ashley webster joins us with the details on this one. wow. >> reporter: interesting story. where do you begin? clearly, it appears that russian hackers, government hackers probably know as much about donald trump as the democratic national committee and all of its research because they did indeed manage to penetrate the database of the dnc. not only did they get the research on mr. trump, they got all the e-mails, all the chatting that went on. we have this statement from debbie wasserman schultz, the chair of the dnc. she said when we discovered the intrusion, we treated this like the serious incident it is. our team moved as quickly as possible to kick out the intruders and secure our network. sounds good but "washington
post" claims the hackers had been inside the dnc computer system for a year. remarkable. now as for the government. government says we don't know anything about it. state department spokesperson john kirby says i don't know anything about it. >> i don't have direct knowledge about this case. obviously, they're concerning, and if they're true, it would be deep concern, and yes, you're right. it's not a u.s. government, the democratic national committee is a political organization, not a u.s. government organization, but sure, that would be deeply concerning if that's true. >> reporter: apparently it is true and deeply concerning, the hackers managed to get into the networks of both presidential nominees, hillary clinton and donald trump and gop pacs, political action committees. we have this response from representative for congressman adam schiff from california, the democrat says while i cannot get into the specifics
of any one attack or hack in light of our adversarial relationship with russia after invasion of ukraine, we must expect that russia in particular will target our institutions relentlessly, he said. he's the ranking member on the house committee on intelligence. now, what are the russians saying about this? here's a shocker, the kremlin denies all knowledge of any such hacking, back to you. melissa: wonder if they're preparing a book. what are they going to do with that? >> reporter: going to do with it. melissa: wow, ashley, thank you, connell? connell: disney world stepping up security after reports of the orlando shooter to think about an attack on walt disney world, did he have more targets in mind? melissa: no wonder things are aren't getting done in d.c. meanwhile the president has yet to pick up the phone and call the florida sghoor has the president spoken to you, yet?
. connell: as we continue to report on the terror in orlando, we're seeing division among top republicans between them and their presumptive nominee donald trump. speaker paul ryan pushing back against trump's call to temporarily ban muslims from entering the u.s., it's not in our country's interest. peter barnes reports live from the white house and joins us with the latest on all. this peter?
>> reporter: hey, connell, president obama found an ally in the speaker of the house on donald trump's proposed ban against muslim immigration when first trump proposed this in december after the san bernardino shootings. ryan opposed it. yesterday trump doubled down on it after the shootings in orlando, when asked about it again today, here's what the speaker said. >> i do not think a muslim ban is in our country's interest. i do not think it is reflective of our principles not just as a party but a country. the smarter way to go is have a security test not a religious test. >> reporter: the president met with his national security team today and ripped into trump not only for the muslim ban but also for trump's attack on the president and hillary clinton for declining to use the tomorrow radical islam in the terror attacks here and in the fight against isis. here's what the president said. >> they know full well who the
enemy is. so do the intelligence and law enforcement officers who spent countless hours disrupting plots. and protecting all americans. including politicians who tweet and appear on cable news shows. >> reporter: as you know just yesterday, hillary clinton actually did say that she was happy to start using the term radical islam, but like the president, she charged that it is just political rhetoric. connell? connell: peter barnes from the white house, melissa? melissa: cable news causing all the problems. showdown on capitol hill to call attention to gun control. democratic lawmakers walking out during a moment of silence for the orlando victims, after a testy exchange between speaker ryan and assistant democratic leader jim clyburn. >> i am really concerned that
we have just today, have a moment of silence, and later this week, the 17th -- >> is the gentleman reading inquiry? >> yes. mr. speaker, i'm particularly interested about three pieces of legislation filed in response. >> the gentleman is not filing parliamentary. melissa: talking about the anniversary of the charleston, south carolina shooting. here with me now is dan heninger and richard goodstein, democratic strategist. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. melissa: dan, you know the same thing happens every time, everybody retreats to their corner and talks about a totally different issue. i think the american public no matter what side you are on, everything is getting worse. >> getting worse and as president obama himself said, a lot of this is a distraction, and i think this repeated calls for assault weapon bans or
visiting the gun control laws is indeed itself a distraction because we go through this every time melissa. if the democrats were serious about this, they should propose a total ban on guns in the united states or even quite seriously repeal the 2nd amendment. they will not do that because they do not have the votes. melissa: i love you to death, this is exactly what's going on. richard, the other side would say, you sat down and got together and you compromised on gun laws, that it wouldn't achieve anything because the democratic side would either say that that wasn't enough, it wasn't a real compromise or wouldn't address isis and radical islam. >> there's no basis nar in my humble opinion, melissa. we had an assault weapons ban and during that time, the use of assault weapons and the killings -- melissa: richard, hang on, let me stop you, talking about not going back to the talking points and figuring out how to get together and actually get
something done, and i feel that we're proving we can't do it. >> no, no, i don't think so. right? we had 49 people killed with assault weapon. if we had thousands of americans that were going to be killed by a missile from a foreign country, we would put an anti-missile system into defend ourselves. melissa: what ban anti-pressure cooker system? and what about the two police in paris killed last night with a knife and it was livestreamed. >> not every step is going to prevent everything, but we know as a factual matter because we had an assault weapons ban, when we have it, it does save lives. we've got people mourning who will not be mourning because of that position you're suggesting. melissa: dan, of those incidents the only thing they had in common was radical islam. they were all different weapons, all different places, all they had in common was radical islam. >> where does radical islam
originate? it doesn't originate in orlando, florida or san bernardino, california, it originates with islamic state and al qaeda in the middle east. that is the source of the problem, and it gets exported to paris, brussels and orlando one way or another. until we put in place policies that will suppress islamic state in the middle east, this thing is going to continue. that's the subject we should be talking about. not assault weapon bans. melissa: richard, is there a compromise in there somewhere? is there any way for the two parties to get together and come up with a treaty of some type? >> sure, the fact is you wouldn't continue to read dan's writing but isis controls half the territory in iraq than it did a year ago. obama thankfully is using drones to pick off isis fighters right and left. obama got bin laden, not bush
who promised dead or alive, right? melissa: you feel we're winning the war on isis? >> i'm say that the number of isis fighters -- melissa: is it expanding or contracting? is the problem getting better or worse? >> i'm saying the military says there are many fewer isis fighters than 2 1/2 years ago at this point. we know that there is a contraction. melissa: overall? over all there are fewer isis fighters than before? that's actually incorrect. there are more isis fighters thanefore. are you talking about a specific small territory? that's not even factually correct? >> i'm saying in the caliphate, we have fewer people today in isis than we had ever since 2 1/2 years ago and is there a pernicious ideology? of course. do we need a compromise? i think barack obama is following the same policies george bush did. melissa: and we're losing. thanks, guys. connell? connell: in the middle of all
this, there is apparently a never trump movement has not gone away, a pair of stop trump grassroots campaigns are fighting tooth and nail but facing uphill battle. kendall unruh is leading one of the groups from denver, colorado. good to talk with you. part of your plan is to essentially change the rules before the republican national committee so the delegates -- the republican national convention so the delegates would not be bound on the first ballot for donald trump. they can choose whoever they want to vote for. so to start off the questioning, i'll say it just sounds at this point, after all we've been through, so far-fetched. tell me why it's not? >> it's not far-fetched because it is constitutional. one thing i teach my students, that is the right to free conscience of systemic building block, that's why the pilgrims came here why, we have a bill of rights and to allow a
delegate to vote their free will is something that is actually a very powerful tool. let me correct something about the tools, it's very prevalent misconception of the rules, the rules from 2012 will not be applied from the convention. >> i know, put the new rules in place for the upcoming convention, for this convention. how does it work, then? you go in there and you have to write a new set of rules and you want, what specifically? >> specifically, i want a conscience call. we're unbound but the delegates don't realize they're unbound, so this is what i call the permission slip from mom at home because republicans are rule followers and they want to have a rule that implicitly tells them that i can unbind on the first ballot. connell: i've heard both sides of that. is that true? i've heard both sides. >> it is true. there's been two supreme court cases and 200 historical precedents and for 136 years the party has said that we will
remain unbound, the supreme court ruled that states may not interfere in the private engagements of anything. can you imagine if the state was trying to impose that voters and the home owners board would have to vote a certain way? this is going to allow a religious or personal conscience because of grievous contact on behalf of a candidate or -- >> okay, so if you're successful, sorry to interrupt, just for time. if you are successful and you get this, hypothetically, people can vote for whoever they want, what do you want to happen? a candidate, paul ryan or scott walker a write-in, what can happen here? >> first and foremost, might be delegates that are still going to vote for donald trump. connell: okay, why do it? >> because i believe people should have a choice. i'm going to be casting a ballot for cruz. i do not than once the vacuum with open convention is created, i believe a leader
will step in. but what i will tell you is it's up to the party to actually select their nominee, not up to the primary voters and open primaries where the democrat and independents have decided our nominee. if we choose to rubber stamp him, that is fine, and by the way, he will come out of convention with a more united force that the republicans selected them to be the nominee. but i want to give the other delegates that choice of option of a free conscience and a free will. connell: we give you the opportunity to speak about it today and see you in cleveland. >> thank you, appreciate the time. connell: melissa? melissa: "curb your enthusiasm" is coming back to hbo. the most recent episode of "curb your enthusiasm" aired nearly 15 years ago. it's been that long? that's so depressing. no formal return date has been estate. it can't be 15 years. connell: no, 5, i think. it's been a while, i think. "curb your enthusiasm"?
you know what? he's cleaning up as bernie sanders on "saturday night live." melissa: why do another thing? connell: much ado about trump university. what about the scandal over clinton
university? why it might be time to think twice about attacks like this. >> he is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u.
melissa: clintons add another check to their list of controversies. clinton university scandal taking center stage, much bigger than donald trumps. for-profit college named bill clinton honorary chancellor that paid him chump change. no one is talking about this now. here now is charles ortel, a whistle-blower who found major gaps in the foundation, so much of the clinton finances.
let me ask you about this one, he's getting paid by laureate at the same time laureate is in charge and they're giving money to laureate, laureate is giving money to bill clinton, what am i missing? >> it's a major scandal. let's talk size, we're talking in the laureate transaction, a $4 billion transaction when it was completed in august of 2007. it's sizable. it came together just as the credit crisis was unfolding and a lot of people who are involved in the transaction ultimately were benefitted by the u.s. government, citibank, goldman, other people. and basic idea of a for profit university doesn't make sense, the obama administration targeted many others. the disclosures for the clinton foundation and disclosures from laureate do not explain. even the ones amended for the clinton foundation last year don't explain that bill was taking 16.5 million.
melissa: if they didn't explain it, how did we not find out? it's not painted that clearly to the average eye. >> you know where you can find it, you can find some of this in the sec filings available for two transactions that are now ongoing, starting last year to try to raise money at the laureate level common stock, it's exchange debt at laureate level. the disclosure documents are hundreds of pages long and they don't explain the payments. so the same regulators looking at the state regulators and foreign regulators should turn attention to the clinton filings and looked at discrepancies, they're massive. melissa: explain to the audience that might not know, you did a tremendous amount of work to go through all of these papers and put this together, and no average person can do this. i think a lot of government bureaucrats and officials have haired time doing this. you have a reputation for having done this accurately in
the past before the financial crisis and predicting a lot of problems and going through the records. i imagine you went through all this and you go and front to someone, right? and show them how to connect the dots. have you done that? where does that stand? >> i have done that. it's such a variance today from where it was 15 or 16 months ago, even i when i thought about the clinton foundation i thought former president, aspiring president, chelsea clinton ph.d. a lot of smart people around the filings. i didn't believe it. i took it around to lawyers, accountants, satisfied myself that i was write and satisfied myself that such overwhelming political consequences that it would take time for the public to get it. i've taken it to certain state regulators and foreign people. melissa: would it be the fbi? the irs? >> well, i'm told, neither the irs or the fbi have approached me. i wrote an article last year that was in fox that got a
tremendous amount of coverage, why isn't the irs auditing the clinton foundation. if it weren't so politicized it would be. melissa: we're not going to let this go. thank you, charles, appreciate your time. connell? connell: victims recovering from the mass shooting recalling the horrors from inside that nightclub on that night. and we'll take you back to orlando. >> it hits the side of my hip, i had no reaction, i was prepared to just stay there, laying down so he won't know i'm alive. ♪
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critical condition there. those doctors heroes in their own right detailing the scene as the injured were brought into the hospital in waves. >> i said this is not a drill, this is not a joke, we have 20+ gunshot wounds coming in. i need you here as fast as you can. connell: one survivor recounting the chilling details, watch. >> he's shooting everyone that's dead on the floor, making sure they're dead. i was able to peek over and i can just see him shoot
limited staff with one body scanner for a regular line. >> this is huge precedent, the changing the tickle change cost the flight and whatever else he incurred, and his legal fees, i hope he wins. >> "risk & reward" starts now. >> i had a panic attack. >> started shooting and shooting and shooting getting closer and closer. >> the music was going then it stopped, all you could hear was sprays of bullets over and over. >> he laughed when he was shooting. >> we had bodies piled up on top of each other, i have never seen anything like this in my career. >> this killer was radicalized, and at least in some part through the in