tv The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan FOX Business August 26, 2016 2:00pm-3:01pm EDT
points, a lot of red on it. up over 5% tonight. don't forget "wall street week" and libertarian town hall with that will be a big night tonight. over to trish regan. trish: going to be a good one, the market is all over the place amid news janet yellen intends to raise interest rates at some point. we're live from the fed's big shin dig in jackson hole coming up. donald trump and hillary clinton engage some of the worst attacks against each other yet. i'm trish regan, welcome everyone, to "the intelligence report." investors reacting to janet yellen's positive assessment of the economy including the job market, which means in fact, that she may raise rates, perhaps earlier than some anticipate. talking about september. we don't know exactly when she's going to do it but promising it's going to happen at some point, and that has the market trading down about 82 points right now.
but first, let's get to our top story, hillary clinton, donald trump unleashing a war of words. watch it. >> from the start, donald trump has billed his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. he is taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the republican party. he says he wants to make america great again, but more and more it seems as though his real message seems to be make america hate again. >> to hillary clinton and her donors and advisers, pushing her to spread smears and her lies about decent people, i have three words. i want you to remember these three words --
shame on you. trish: the fight coming as the two vie for the all-important minority vote with less than three months to go before election day. and that battle making its way to twitter as well today with hillary clinton linking to this page showing a slew of quotes, there it is, of white supremacists supporting her opponent. meanwhile, donald trump is
posting a link to this ad calling the clintons the real predators out there. watch. >> they are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators, no conscience, no empathy week can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heal. >> explain your record. >> it was a racist term and everybody knew it was a racist term. trish: is this fight going to work for either side or make voters yearn for november 8 to come more quickly. we have our political panel.
first to sean spicer, communications director for the rnc. welcome back, great to see. >> you good
to see you, trish. trish: let me ask you about something your boss reince priebus said, he expects trump and clinton to be tied in the polls by labor day. tell me about the path you see and he sees to getting trump's poll numbers higher? >> well, if you look over the last two weeks, trish, seen probably the best two weeks in the trump campaign and that combined with the worst two weeks of the clinton campaign last week, embroiled in the iran hostage-ransom deal and the revelation of additional 15,000 e-mails. continued revelations of the quid pro quo pay-for-play stuff that happened with the clinton foundation. those two elements have shown the race unbelievably tight again. the l.a. times poll showed two up. you're seeing it in the battleground states, florida, nevada, iowa, north carolina,
these states all coming home. republican voters back on board which allowed the race to get within a point or two, one up or one down, as we head into labor day and trump continues to have another good week, i wouldn't be surprised to see him tied or up one. trish: is this perhaps why hillary clinton now is really getting quite personal in her attacks. you heard the sound we just played, and she's really attacking donald trump telling minority communities when he says what do you have to lose, if you vote for me? she's saying, look, you got everything to lose, and saying it in a tone that's a little softer, a little gentler, it's almost like she's really trying to convince people that he is the scariest alternative out there. yet, sean, we haven't heard a ton in the way of actual policy from her? >> that's right. i actually think she has been heard a lot. she's been in beverly hills,
greenwich, nantucket or martha's vineyard raising money. they thought donald trump was going in one direction, if we keep her hidden, don't allow her to give a press conference, that we continue to raise cash, and i think what they realize, they always planned to go negative and hard and desperate in the end, i don't think they saw the polls tightening this quick again. you're seeing this desperate plea that she had to throw early, once they saw the polls nationally and in the battleground coming back, republicans coming home, they knew they didn't have a choice. i never thought they would go this desperate this soon, but nothing seems to surprise me this day. it's shocking that they went this hard, but i think they realize it, and i think they also didn't realize the impact the american public would have with trump reaching out the way he has, asking for people's votes, talking and sitting around at various roundtables to further talk about the issues plaguing key communities in this country. trish: want to point out, he
has had certainly anything is but a traditional campaign, and just a moment ago, he launched an app where supporters can communicate via that app and get the latest on the campaign and the events and make donations as well. so he certainly has not been traditional and that has to be catching her offguard. let me ask you about something else week have heard what some have called a softening in his tone when it comes to the immigration issue, and i wonder if this actually has her scared as well because let's not forget, sean, independents will have a big part in deciding this race, and if he can bring in some of those independents, perhaps by sounding a little softer on the immigration front, that has to have her running a little bit scared. tell me about what's going on there with the immigration policy, what you anticipate he will put forward and whether or not he can bring his base along with him as he brings in some
of those independent voters? >> that's a great question because i think he's been able to toe a line, talking about border security first and talk about the wall, making sure people understand it's not just solving the problem and centering reappear a few years later, by strengthening the border. making sure we take a real look at legal immigration, that that's going to prevent future problems. once that's done, once the border is secure, once the wall is built. we go back and look at the 11 million plus in this country illegally, as he said before, we've got to be fair, firm and humane. what that means, and people are looking forinterpret what all this means, he's going to lay it out in a speech in the next couple weeks. no one realistically thinks you're going to wake up and 11 million people are going to be gone. you've got to be smart about it, look at the people that committed a crime, the people who have overstayed visas, and a way that understands people who have been here a long time. they've got families, ingratiated in the community
and have impact on the economy. you have to do it smartly and holeistically in terms of the plan, that's what he's look to lay out in his plan in the next couple of weeks. you touch on in the question not just about immigration, this is a change election, and i think the frustration that not only donald trump and bernie sanders on the left tapped into is the american people are tired of being told you should accept the status quote. you should accept the government that's nonresponsive. you should accept not stagnant wages and i think what trump represents, he is the agent of change. i'm not from politics, i'm from business, degree in the success of business, i'm not going to put up with the status quo. people are yearning for the change and hillary clinton knows after 40 years of being part of that establishment, part of the status quo, part of the pay-for-play scandal that has gone on for a long time, she's got a tough challenge to convince people to stick with that and not go with the change
that donald trump offers. trish: well, it's fascinating to watch, and i think that the last ten days or so have been really monumental in terms of the change we have seen in donald trump. in that the media has been able to spend more time focusing on things like the clinton foundation and less distracted by some of his comments along the way. so perhaps if he can keep it up and just stick to the policy ideas, it will continue to have her running scared. see whether or not they can narrow that gap by labor day, as you point out, sean. thank you very much. >> have a great weekend. trish: good to have you here. i want to bring in holly, a former spokesperson for the dnc and mark serrano to talk more about all this. you know, mark, this immigration policy that he's going to put forward, i think, it was fascinating to watch him with hannity and pull in the crowd trying to bring him along with him. i think if there's one person
that can bring that base along with him, it's probably donald trump, i mean, as he has said before, pretty much do anything and his base is there for him. he has such a likability among people in the party, but right now, has he got to expand that and will this immigration policy that he puts forward help him do that? >> trish, the left tries to force this debate all about, you know, giving legal status to illegal immigrants in the united states. that is why they've been able to stalemate this issue for 35 years. instead, donald trump is completely turned over the political paradigm on this issue like you're saying. he has talked about securing the border first, dealing with the criminal elements among illegal aliens, particularly considering the bloody murders that have taken place across this country, and so now you're right, what he can do is say look, that doesn't mean we're not humane.
he wants to look at this from a policy standpoint that puts america first, deals with the border, deals with the criminal elements, deals with the legal immigration and visa overstays and then, only then, should we take a look at those people who are here illegally and how we deal with them but not giving them citizenship. he's clear with that and the policy is very humane. trish: what's the problem that the left has with what marc's talking about? >> interesting question. about four years ago, sean spicer and the rnc put out a report saying the only way they could win in 2016 was for their candidates, whoever the gop candidate was, to embrace comprehensive immigration reform, to reach out to people like la raza, like the naacp, and seen a year of campaigning from donald trum they're nearing the end, worried about what's going to happen. the polls have got in tighter. trish: so you like the policy you heard from sean spicer is
that what you're telling me? >> he's been saying this for four years, we've seen no comprehensive reform bill in congress. trish: what's hillary going to do? >> we talked about this. a path to citizenship for anyone who is worthy, who is here making sure that families can stay together. trish: okay, that doesn't sound a whole lot different. >> look, she has not a plan different from barack obama. she's going to keep the borders open. he's allowed people and children to flow across our border. my goodness in one county in northern virginia. 256 children who came across the border two years ago and guess what, the taxpayers are raising them, are paying for schooling, are paying for education and welfar that is not the policy that we need as americans, but that's what hillary clinton wants to do. it's just continue to keep open borders so not only economic security is at risk but national security as well.
trish: she's talking about some path for the 11 million people that are here. donald trump has suggested that we will enforce our borders first and then we'll worry about the 11 million people that are here. i'm trying to understand the differences, i think it is incredibly nuanced between two plans, and holly, i don't see how you can take aim at donald trump. and judging from the things he said all along, i can't see why you have such a problem with donald trump. >> since the first days on the campaign, donald trump came out and use the terms mexicans are racist. >> he was talking about the criminal elements. >> this is not anything new. when i hear his plan is going to be better, humane, it's less than 70 days will in the election xerox yet to see the plan. >> okay, do you want to secure the border? >> yeah, of course, but you know even rick perry said
donald trump's wall is an unrealistic plan, right? and who is he going to get to pay for it? the mexicans are going to pay for the wall? do you think the mexicans are going to pay for the wall? what do you think? >> $65 million trade imbalance in trade. >> i asked you the question, do you think the mexicans are going to pay for the wall? >> they are going to pay for the wall because we're going to fix trade. that's going to pay for the wall. but are you going to secure the wall first? do you support securing the wall before we talk anything about your amnesty plans? >> you know the experts on the border -- >> yes or no, secure the wall, yes or no? >> of course we have borders that matter, right? >> are we going to secure the wall or no? >> we've been debating this for ten years, you keep drawing us back into the state and not able to move forward. of course securing the border is important -- trish: we're going to leave it there, you know, hopefully everybody can agree that you
got to have borders if you have a country. see you in a little bit. i want to check on the markets, the market is off 82 points in response to janet yellen. we have been all over the place. first the market was higher. perhaps encouraged. investors were encouraged by some of her comments on the economy, but you know, it's hard to judge exactly what the fed is thinking these days because as i said over and over again, they like to have their cake and eat it, too. they're data dependent and watch the data and remain ready to move. down 81 points there on the dow. hillary and bill clinton continue to defend their foundation saying the foundation has saved lives and has created jobs. to date, it has raised $2 billion. but just how much of that $2 billion has actually gone towards charitable causes? our very own elizabeth mcdonald is crunching the numbers investigating this foundation, and she will join us with her results.
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trish: that was hillary clinton attempting to defend her family's foundation on msnbc earlier today claiming her work as secretary of state was not influenced by outside forces including the charity's bigtime donors. we know the clinton foundation has done some good over the years. you could say a lot of good. but you also know there are a whole lot of questions surrounding this charity. and just exactly how it is run behind the scenes, including allegations that the majority of the money actually goefrs head rather than to actual charity. our very own liz macdonald has been conducts her own investigation and joins me with the results. what did you find? >> here's what we found going through the audit financials and irs forms of the clinton foundation. we looked at the entities rolled into the umbrella clinton foundation, they raised about $2 billion to date. the important thing to note about the clinton foundation is
that it has its own team of staffers who go in and do charitable work, it's not just a conduit that access give out grant money. so there's been a lot of mistakes how much of its program services are basically how much those are going toward charity and how much is for overhead. they do, trish, as you pointed out, they made about over $5 million in grants, but hundreds of millions of dollars spent on program services, which means their staffers go into africa or build warehouses for cross reformers or staffers who work directly on lowering hiv costs. so it's really difficult for charitable watchdogs to figure out how much of the clinton foundation fund-raising is going to charity? and here's what we found, for example, they spent $34 million in salaries in the year 2014. $8 million on travel, and more
than $12 million on conferences and meetings. trish: wow! how much on conferences and meetings? >> $12.5 million. and again, more than $8 million annually for the last couple of years on travel. trish: wow. >> they get 5 million in grant money and the money goes to other items. >> that seems like a red flag, liz, if they're spending more on travel and more on conferences than you actually are donating to charities, that can't be good. >> doesn't sound good, and here's the thing. charity navigator, they basically are a watchdog. they say we can't even grade the clinton foundation because it's so unusual in how it's operating. again, it's own staffers to do charitable work. that's why it's tough to get to the bottom of what is -- the clinton foundation does do good as you point out. as to the expenses, that's a
tough thing to look into. trish: more opaqueness, there you go. liz, thank you very much. hillary clinton slamming donald trump for campaigning with the former uk leader and big supporter of the leave eu movement nigel farage, accused of spreading anti-immigration sentiment. here's the thing, like donald trump, nigel farage insists it is important to put one's country first, our own country first. anything wrong with that? we're going to discuss next.
. trish: hillary clinton slamming donald trump for campaigning with nigel farage, a key leader in the campaign to get britain out of the eu. clinton warns that there's danger of trump using farage to help his message of redeclaring american independence, take a listen to her here. >> this is part of a broader story. the rising tied of hard line right wing nationalism around the world. . trish: all right. karen of
the hoover institute joins me now. karen, welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. trish: you have seen a bit of this around the world right now, but is this perhaps natural given what the world is going through right now? >> actually, presidential race. trish: uh-huh. >> the issue that donald trump has brought for there that no other presidential candidate in the 21st century has been willing to talk about in any substantial and consistent way is whether the united states is prepared to maintain its role as a superpower in the world. so when he talks about america first, it sounds like nationalism, but what he's talking about has to do with the fundamentals of our economy, of immigration laws,
enforcing the rule of law, burden sharing with our allies. if all of that sounds like right wing nationalism, then i'm not exactly sure what's going on. because what he's talking about is so fundamental to our survival as a superpower, as a great power, as a nation that helps enforce international norms, that makes international institutions work, that i think it's easier for secretary clinton and some of trump's -- trish: i see what you're saying. so, in other words, she's trying to say nationalism and perhaps you and i are talking past each other here because i do think this is happening around the world right now, you see it in france, the uk, and i think it is absolutely positively logical. these countries are struggling economically, struggling with their security, and we're facing the exact same thing back at home, although perhaps
on a larger scale as you point out, we have been the hegemonic power for decades around the world and suddenly we have an given that position up over the last eight years thanks to president obama and his ideas about where america should be. and look at the chaos that has ensued. in other words, we already took that role on. i don't know how, karen, you abandon it. you abandon it for that length of time and expect things to be okay. is it important for us and frankly the rest of the world for us to reestablish ourselves? >> absolutely. and where i do agree with you, and i see that you have it quite right is that much of the rest of the world is looking at us for leadership. and i think because we haven't played that role for such a long time, there is a void in the international system, and you do have a kind of resurgence nationalism as countries attempt to figure out how to survive in the global war on terror. and it is donald trump who's been talking about the fact
that we are, in fact, in a long, global war and struggle against radical islam. much of what we see in europe right now is an attempt to readjust to the fact that we're in a conflict that many leaders even in europe throughout the west have not wanted to acknowledge is, in fact, going on. and it's getting more and more kinetic so i think if the doesn't address the role of the united states plays in the west more and more broadly, we are doing a disservice to the american voter, and we cannot -- trish: and a disservice to the role. >> and the role we would play to preserve and to enhance western civilization. that's, in fact, what is at issue right now. trish: no, look, this -- it's sad to think about. but we may be heading towards another world wa world war ii-type scenario where we need to lead that coalition for the
sake of the free world. karen, thank you so much. it's good to have you here. let's check on these markets, everyone. off 106 now. triple digit loss there after janet yellen said today that the fed is moving toward raising interest rates but stopped short of how that's going to happen and how soon that's going to happen. our own peter barns is out there from the big shindig in jackson hole, talking clued in economists and fed officials. he's got the intel for you after this from verizon... hi, pete. i'm glad you called. (announcer vo) all your phones can work together on one number. you can move calls between phones, so conversations can go where you go. take your time. i'm not going anywhere. (announcer vo) and when you're not available, one talk helps find the right person who is. hi, john. (announcer vo) so wherever work takes you, you can put your customers first. introducing one talk-- another way verizon connects your business better. learn how at onetalk.com.
trish: all right. earlier today we got the latest read on the economy. gdp growing a whopping 1.1%. how do you like that for the second quarter? that's what you call basically nothing. federal reserve chair janet yellen did speak at the highly anticipated speech we saw at jackson hole this morning, that's the big shindig that all the fed officials go to and all the economists go to, and they look for some clues about whether or not the fed's going to raise rates, she did say it's eventually going to happen. and eventual interest rate hike has strengthened in our recent months. peter barns in jackson hole, wyoming talking to the economists.
what's the consensus there, peter, because i feel, yeah, i've heard this one before. >> yeah. trish, they're downplaying that gdp report. they're saying, listen, that was -- there was really one big thing in that and that was the companies really cut back investing in their inventories of products. so they're looking beyond it and elsewhere in that gdp report you see the consumer spending is fairly healthy. they're pointing to that. also talk about the job creation the last couple of months over 500,000 new jobs. and then we're starting to see new inflation in jobs. so we heard janet yellen this morning saying quote in light of the continued solid performance of the laborok for economic activity and inflation, i believe the increase for federal funds rate short-term interest rate has strengthened in recent months. but she of course would not get into the timing. she said that will depend on incoming data. i did talk to one of her colleagues this morning, there
is another policy meeting coming up just at the end of september. here's what he said. >> look within that number, you see the effective inventories. and if you exclude that, and you look at real, final sales, you see a more encraging picture. a picture of a kind of steady moderate growth economy. not impressive, but nonetheless steady. if i see by the run up to the fomc meeting data that are kind of consistent with that picture, my position is we ought to have a serious discussion. >> all right. at least a serious discussion about raising rates at the september meeting if the data keeps coming in. but there's also a meeting in november just before the election. i don't expect any action there. but then there's a meeting after that in december. so they seem to be teeing up a rate increase at some point later -- at some point this year. trish. trish: i'll believe it when i see it, peter. thank you so much. >> okay. trish: by the way, that is
quite a backdrop behind peter, everyone. i just want to point out, it actually is real. it may look a little fake, it's just that beautiful out there in jackson hole, wyoming. let's take a look at these markets, we're off you can see almost 100 points there still on the dow. you know, earlier in the session we had been trading higher. but then things started to reverse midday, and it looks like we might end the day lower. it's clear, investors don't really know what to think of janet yellen and the if he had. you just wonder if they're out of ammunition and frankly out of the ability to influence this market. joining me right now pnc deputy strategist chad and washington -- rather i should say wall street bureau -- wall street journal bureau chief economics correspondent john, john, i want to start with you, also located there in the beautiful jackson hole, wyoming. very interesting piece in the journal the other day that i
would advice everybody to go and read. and you talk about the connection. >> thank you. trish: between the fed's sort of policy if you can call it that over the last few years and what we're seeing in the political environment. explain. >> yeah. well, you know, so what we've seen for not only the fed but for across the political spectrum is a decline in public confidence in the institutions that are running the u.s. economy and the government. so the fed is a case study into this declining confidence in the institutions that are kind of driving the economy. and, you know, what i detail in my story is how the fed has gotten a lot wrong in the last few years. they expected the economy to grow faster. it hasn't grown as fast as they expected. they expected inflation to get back up to 2%, it hasn't gotten back up to 2%. and more important than anything at all, they didn't think that the housing boom in the mid-2000s was a bubble that could bring down the
about entire economy and the financial system, and they missed that. so this is all pled lead to public dissolutionment in the institutions and the fed is suffering the consequences of that now. trish: yeah, look, they've gotten it wrong over and over and over again. chad, is this what we get, though, for having a bunch of academics sitting around thinking that they can actually fix things, and you can tinker away when the reality is what they're able to do and how they're able to actually influence the real economy is quite divorced from actual reality. >> well, that's the critical point that the financial system is behaving far apart from what the economic system is doing. here of our most likely scenario is that there will be a december rate hike and the market is actually starting to factor that into -- that was -- that probability -- trish: by the way, you don't think it's going to be september all tied to the election in your view?
or bad economic data points? >> yeah. trish, that's off the table. they fear unhinging the financial system before the election. therefore what is it? a couple more weeks? they'll wait. with that said, we think there's overvaluation and imbalances with the financial system, and they're going to go very slow. trish: when you say imbalances, what are you most worried about? >> well, most worried about the credit markets, also worried about valuation within certain equity markets and of course the european banking situation is quite fragile. and then global growth is decelerating and the emerging markets is a major contributo c. trish: sure. the reality is there's really been no game in town other than to take on risk; right? because by having interest rates this low for so long, you're basically pushing the
mo mom and pop investor via probably some kind of pension fund or some vehicle like that, into the likes of puerto ricoian bonds which everybody touting as this is great. and then we sure found out that they weren't. and the fear i think out there is that there's going to be more situations like this. chad, i don't know how bad you think this is going to get but where do you come out when you say there's another 2008 looking on the horizon because of poor fed policy? >> we don't have the imbalances in the economy like we did in 2008 in terms of the housing market and so forth. there are concerns about stocks. but, you know, we have growths this week but the economy is expanding. we're adding 175, 200,000 jobs per month. trish: not very good jobs. not paying a whole lot of money. >> where rates are. but, you know, i think that, you know, we have in the
economy that is growing, i think we'll see maybe stocks are a little bit overvalued but generally i think that they're in an okay situation. and i think that we will see higher rates later this year, and that will be an indication that the fed think so the economy is doing a little better. trish: last word to john before we go here. how much are you hearing, john, about concerns of another bubble-like scenario that the fed has inadvertently created. >> well, i think they're a little bit concerned of the real estate market. they are concerned that low rates for a very long period induce people to seek out yield and seek out risk so they're worried what's happened with insures and pension funds. i will say, though, this doesn't look to me and to the fed anything like 2008 the housing bubble that was going on before that. you know, that was -- you were here, you knew that when you went to any cocktail party and everyone was talking about flipping homes and getting -- trish: i'm going to tell you you're totally right.
it doesn't feel that way to me either. but it's important for us to look at these potential bubbles along the way. but, yeah, the rhetoric hasn't quite ratcheted up to that stage. >> i'm looking at commercial real estate right now. trish: we're going to take a quick break. i'm going to be right back
sticking to the path to raise rates at some point in the future. at some point. the dow down 87 points right now on the dow. you get apple today issuing these security upgrades to prevent spy wear attacks after the discovery of an israeli firm secret method of hacking into iphones and ipads. wait a second. i thought the iphone was supposed to be unhackable. not the case. shares of viacom down slightly. charlie gasparino reporting that sherry redstone executive she would like to push for a merger wean cbs and viacom but cbs is unconvinced about the idea. we're going to be right back with one university that's finally saying "no" to pc correctness and all of that. better buckle up.
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here's what went out from the dean here, and i'll show it to you. we do not support so-called trigger warnings, we do not cancel speakers because their topics might be controversial and we do not condone intellectual safe spaces where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives with odds of their own. you know, some conservative speakers have been banned from campuses across the country, ben shapiro comes to mind at cal state l.a. protesters there trying to block him from saying what he wanted to say on campus. they say none of that. response today from the student body saying incoming freshman should be invited to participate with their whole selfs and instead being told to check their compassion and their experiences at the door. he says the dean of students is out of touch and that, you know, safe spaces trigger warnings, he doesn't even know what they are. he says they're not such a bad idea. trish: well, look, let's face it. academia should be a place
where there is a freedom to exchange ideas and the idea that they would shut conservatives down because people just don't want to hear it is beyond me. thank you, jeff. that's a good story. >> don't shut anybody down. exactly. trish: good for chicago. we'll be right back you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork.
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trish: the founder of wikileaks promising a bombshell report on hillary clinton before the election. on fox and friends this morning saying that it is coming. what could it be? holly and mark back with me. mark, do you want to take a stab at me? what do you think? holly, we'll go to mark first and then you. >> that sounds good. >> trish, a riptide occurs when there's a cross current in the ocean. what's going to happen in september is hillary clinton's going to be hit by a political
riptide of the cross currents of her own scandals. september 13th, we are now based on a court order, a federal court is forcing the state department to release all e-mails related to benghazi. so now we have 15,000 new e-mails we didn't know about before that she tried to hide from federal investigators and thanks to judicial watch, in federal court we're now going to see revealed her communications about benghazi, and i believe we will see further proof that she outright lied to the surviving families of benghazi, who, by the way, one of them harry reid called crazy the other day and the news media didn't repeat it at all. trish: attacking patricia smith, again, mrs. smith who has been on this show a couple of times and in some very emotional interviews still has not gotten a call from anyone at the state department or hillary clinton to explain exactly what happened that night. let me go over to you, though, holly. the one tonight that i would make and perhaps this is what
she's got going for her in all of this is that americans already don't trust her. we've seen that in poll after poll after poll. so it's almost like no matter what comes out, for whatever reason, there are people that are just willing to ignore it. >> i think at the end of the day voters are going to go to the polls, and they'll have lots of different reasons to vote for hillary clinton versus donald trump but one of them will be who's going to look out for me while i'm in office? and the question is there might be aboctober surprise, lots of surprises in this election on both sides, but i think voters are more worried about the january surprise; right? they're more worried about what donald trump's position is going to be on minimum wage when one day he wants to abolish it, the next day he wants to raise it, and then get rid of it get back. so i think that, you know,. trish: what did she, yeah, but the same issues for goodness sakes. she's flip-flopped on everything and, again, as i just said, nobody trusts her. so i would imagine voters are going to feel the exact same
way about hillary clinton. i guess the point is i don't understand why they're not a little bit more nervous right now given what we're hearing between benghazi, the e-mail server, the clinton foundation. it's like what more can you hit me with? >> well, i mean -- go ahead, mark. >> well, i think the clinton campaign is nervous. we've seen that as evidence as this outrageous speech that hillary clinton delivered yesterday. all they can do is call republicans racists because they will not argue the facts. the facts are if you take a look at wage growth, we've had negative wage growth under president obama. median income is $53,0. that's $4,000 less than when obama took office. poverty is at the same percent as it was in the 1960s. trish: we know this very well here on fox business. the economy is not in good shape. holly, mark, thank you so much. we'll be right back with more intel after this
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defend the clinton foundation, wiki leak promises a bombshell report on clinton before the election. like my facebook show page @trish intel and tell me what you think. ashley webster in for liz claman today. he's got you covered, have a great weekend, everyone. >> thank you very much, trish, going to your facebook page right now. >> good. >> the battle on the presidential campaign trail turned up another notch today as this very moment yesterday donald trump and hillary clinton were holding back where they accused each other of bigotry. both candidates emphasizing the point, this one from hillary clinton to be aired in battleground states of florida, north carolina, ohio, and pennsylvania. using trump's words against him in his appeal to african-american voters. while trump in the meantime goes to the 1990s the last term super