tv Risk and Reward With Deidre Bolton FOX Business October 6, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm EDT
>> those are nasty clouds. very nasty clouds. >> palm beach is a little further south but as the bands come across the southern part of the florida coast, some parts that are even closer to the eye may be looking better for the moment. not for long. >> stay safe. here's "risk & reward". >> time is running out. this is clearly going to have a direct hit or come right along our coast and we're going to have hurricane-force winds. there are no excuses. you need to leave. evacuate. evacuate. evacuate. are you willing to take a chance to risk your life? liz: florida bracing for hurricane matthew tonight. the eye of the category 4 hurricane, it is about to touch down on the coast of the golden
state. governor rick scott urging millions to get out as president barack obama declared a state of emergency there. this is "risk & reward." i'm elizabeth macdonald in for deirdre bolton. one of the most powerful atlantic storms in nearly a decade. death toll rising to more than 136 in the caribbean already. and the damage from a cat 4 hurricane includes this. winds of anywhere from 130 miles per hour to 155 miles per hour. you could see rooftops torn off. large trees, power lines blown down. mobile homes entirely destroyed, structural damage. millions are bracing for impact. boarding up homes and businesses, store shelves are bare as residents stock up and florida's governor rick scott reinforcing that even just a small deviation in the storm's path could make a world of difference between safety and disaster. >> this is serious.
only a small deviation in the forecast track to the left or to the west could bring the core of a major hurricane onshore within the hurricane warning area. while a small deviation to the right or east could keep all the hurricane-force winds offshore. don't take a chance. liz: calling on adam shapiro on the ground in florida. he's got the latest. adam, what are you seeing now? >> reporter: okay, so emac, in the last 15 minutes, the wind has started to pick up. we're in fort orange right next to daytona beach. the wind has picked up. not quite 40 miles per hour yet, but you see the bridge in the distance, there are several bridges and cause ways up and down, this is the halifax river, that's how people get out to daytona beach and the other beaches up and down the east coast of florida. those bridges are now shut down so people who are on that side of the river cannot get to the mainland, they now are told you
must shelter in place, and people here are going to be prohibited from going over to that side. when you talk about this, you also have to talk about the tidal surge, there was update to the prediction how height surge could be. i just want to you see that the water is already from the halifax river, which is part of the whole water system, it has already risen, starting to lap over the sea wall here. there is a dock you saw behind me already underwater. they expect a tidal surge on the beach to be anywhere between 7-11 feet. that's in a worst-case scenario. 7-11 feet, when the storm hits which is believed to be around 2:00 a.m. friday morning. but we are already getting the outer bands, the winds are picking up, and people at this point are being told, if you haven't gotten, you know, the supplies you need, don't try, k into place. i want to show you one thing emac, spin around, these trees over here, give a good sense
how the wind is picking up in the residential area, and the people who live around here tell me this is going to flood should that storm surge go three or four feet. you talked earlier too about supplies running out. we were at publix supermarkets, they closed at 4:00 p.m. they ran out of propane, ran out of batteries and ice. it is a given that this whole area is going to lose electricity. florida power and light estimated anywhere up to 2 to 2 1/2 million people could be without electricity in some cases up to two weeks. that is what is about to hit this coast. the storm is expected to hit at its worst at 2:00 a.m. and to last for several hours. liz: you make a good point hitting the roughest part in the dead of night. people in ft. lauderdale expect it to pick up at 9:00 at night and extend it to 2:00 in the morning. and hearing reports that this
weather system could bounce out and loop back in again early next week and hit the golden state again. have you heard that? >> reporter: yes. so the models that the different forecasters have predicted is it will come up the east coast of florida today, and as it passes, georgia, south carolina, it will turn east and head back out to the atlantic, but then come back down south where it could either stay, if it strengthens or just stay and continue to peter out, or it could come back in and hit this part of florida. what's particularly troubling to people in -- some people refer to this as the space coast. 40 miles from here is cape canaveral, a major category 4 storm has not hit this part of florida directly in over 20 years. the last major hurricane, andrew, which was a category 5 hit southeastern florida back in 1992.
65 people dead. $26 billion in damage. this part of the state was spared then, and although there have been hurricanes that hit this part of the state. nothing like a category 4. liz: and the hurricane in 2005 in florida, and the point there adam is since then, two million more people are living on the coast in florida since the hurricane hit the golden state in 2005, right? >> reporter: yeah, you're looking at people, the estimates are anywhere between 18 on the low end to 20 million people who live in the state of florida. one of the largest states in the union, many of the people did not grow up in the hurricanes. they moved from all parts of the country, and you could see when we were on the beach, people going out to take selfies and pictures and being told you need to evacuate, and a voluntary evacuation, but when the police say get out, if you don't get out, they then say, all right, but you're stuck here. that's what happened. the bridge i was showing you earlier, that's the only way
back and forth for this particular area. if you're on that island, you're not getting off. liz: the structural damage, too. stay safe my friend, adam. thank you very much for your terrific reporting. >> reporter: you got it. liz: okay, governors up and down the east coast warning their residents. here's more from florida's governor scott. >> are you willing to take a chance to risk your life? are you willing to take a gamble? that's what you're doing. if you're reluctant to evacuate, think of all the people the storm has already killed. liz: now this comes on the heels of fema saying it's trying a new approach, a repositioning, resources near but not in the path of the storm. for example, at ft. bragg in north carolina. to former fema director, he says it's not new, this strategy is not new. he's michael brown, he joins me on the phone. good to have you, michael. you're saying this strategy isn't new? >> unless i'm missing something in the details, this is
something fema has done for 30, 40 years during hurricane katrina, for example, we moved supplies, equipment and personnel in an arc from atlanta, georgia to dallas, texas. the key is to make sure, and i know fema would never do this, you don't want to put the resources that you might need to respond to a disaster in the area where they might become victims themselves. so it sounds to me like, i don't know what josh earnest was talking about today in the press gaggle, but fema has always prepositioned equipment and personnel in place, and i would assume, and frankly would hope that femas doing this for this hurricane particularly because it's florida and everything you heard in the previous report. we have new people. haven't had a major hurricane hit the area in a dozen years or more, and frankly the time for people to be evacuating has -- they should still evacuate
but that time has since past, because they can't get gas now, can't get groceries or anything else. liz: that's right. >> i want to caution people, i heard the story that the hurricane may go out into the atlantic and reform and come back and hit again. i worry that those kinds of stories are the kinds of stories that cause citizens to go, my god, they're hyping this thing again. telling us it's going hit twice. no, what we're telling you is focus on what's happening right now. we'll worry about four, five days down the road, but if you live in those areas along the florida coast now, you should already be evacuating. and i would emphasize this, because i've seen it in way too many disasters. i read a story today about a guy that lives in an rv and says i can live this out. no, you are exactly the kind of person that will cause a firefighter or urban search-and-rescue team member, cause somebody to save your butt, and they end up getting
injured trying to save you! i would say to the citizens of florida, you owe it to the firefighters and rescue workers to do everything you can to make sure that you don't become a victim that causes somebody else to be a victim. liz: you make a good point about hype. we in the media don't want to appear to hype a story. the issue is we've got 136 people reportedly dead from this hurricane. >> right. liz: it is historic. basically stuck at a cat 4 level for over 102 hours. that is unusual. mr. brown, the thing happening with florida, this seems to be happening and hitting the state in the dead of night between 9:00 at night to 2:00 in the morning. is there advice how they should prepare for that if they're stuck there? >> if they're stuck there, the only thing they can do is get to the highest point in their home because of floodwaters and the storm surge, but the best advice is, if you're listening to this right now and you're still in your home and you have
the ability and enough gas to get 20, 30, 40, 60 or 100 miles inland, you should be doing it. i'm looking right now at the latest report from the national hurricane center, it has sustained winds of 140 miles an hour, and i don't know whether your other reporters have mentioned this or not, but as it moves across those waters and gets into the warm waters, that's where it gets energy it. if it has 140-mile-an-hour sustained winds now and the atlantic waters give it strength, that means it will hit as a cat 4 and will be catastrophic to parts of florida. liz: the power company is warning that this hurricane could knock out power to 2 1/2 million customers. so basically there's an issue here. i want you to take a listen, too, about the issue of getting power and things like gasoline. we've got the florida attorney
general vowing to fight price gouging. this is what the attorney general said on cavuto earlier. take a listen. >> i can tell you if you're a hotel and you're increasing your prices, we are going after you. you cannot increase your prices in the state of emergency. so get ready because we're coming for you. liz: okay, coming for you after the fact, but for people right in the middle of it, what can they do? can they do anything to avoid price gouging in the middle of this hurricane? >> no, they really can't. because if you're at a location. let's put it down to really kind of gut level, you're in your car and you're trying to get on the interstate or get inland and there's a gas station and they've got a little gas left and selling it for $10 a gallon, are you going to pass up the $10 a gallon because there's a law against price gouging? no, you are going to fill your car so you can get inland and
get away from the danger. i'm just saying if you are the consumer, don't let that stop you from getting to safety. that's the most important thing now is getting to a place of safety. and insofar as fpl is concerned. fpl is one of the great utilities of the country. i will tell you this, we need to set people's expectations. the power is going to go out. fp and l will have electric companies from probably as far away as denver, colorado that will show up and help restore power, but it takes time, and i can tell you from the 04 hurricanes in florida, there's always a lag time of getting power to the last person that's at the end of the block, and that could be two weeks, that could be three weeks. so people need to be thinking about that, even if they are able to get back to their homes and their homes are safe, you may still not have power for 10
days, two weeks. liz: good point, former fema director michael brown. thank you very much for your time, sir. >> you bet, liz. >> the first major hurricane to strike florida's east coast is the strongest in decades, fox business will bring you the latest updates on the hurricane starting at 4:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. extensive coverage from maria bartiromo starting at 6:00 a.m. eastern time for maria. nfl reacting to the hurricane, a statement on sunday's tennessee at miami game -- hillary clinton's camp, this is the next story for you, hillary clinton's campaign cancelling a
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. >> in terms of visiting, we're very mindful of the fact that a visit at the wrong time when people are really focused on, you know, keeping themselves safe, would be a real distraction. we're just going to monitor the weather as it goes. liz: unfortunately, hurricane matthew now turning political. hillary clinton's campaign bought $63,000 of airtime on the weather channel in florida for the days the storm
forecasted. the move widely criticized. former campaign manager for jeb bush christie campbell tweeted this out -- and in response to the outrage, the clinton campaign retracted this ad buy saying that basically it will be delayed. here's the statement -- this comes to about over a month after donald trump seemed to basically politically outmaneuver hillary clinton. he did tour parts of louisiana that was devastated by flooding. clinton did not visit saying officials asked her to stay away in the situation there stabilized.
joining me arizona state treasurer and trump campaign operating officer jeff dewit. you know, it's a really sensitive situation about basically, you don't want to appear to be politicizing any natural disasters, right, jeff? >> absolutely. first and foremost, we have to make sure families are safe and everyone is heeding government warnings to get out. and the last thing you want to do is buy up air time like the clinton campaign did to politicize and politically profit off of what's happening there. there's going to be tragedy, there's going to be loss of life to. see that's the first reaction out of clinton campaign shows the fact she's a lifelong politician. liz: did any conversations happen in the trump campaign about doing an ad buy like this? >> not at all, never think about it. look at this and go back to as you pointed out to louisiana and baton rouge a month ago, and donald trump went down, brought with himself supplies, he donated personally six
figure checks of money, and went down and met with the people. there are channels, we got feedback from left-leaning radio stations saying, you know what? we didn't like donald trump before, we love him now because he showed up. and hillary clinton hasn't showed up. so you look at what she does. she can't go there. she won't be on the ground but buy ad time there. liz: let's take off your trump hat and say you were a hillary campaign person, would you say don't do it? >> absolutely. you never want to do that. liz: turn to the next topic, obamacare, bill clinton calling obamacare crazy and donald trump called him out on that. take a listen. >> hillary clinton called obamacare one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama. bill had a different view! he said it's just a crazy system! >> we found hillary's sound bite. remember when she said this? roll tape. >> we have the affordable care
act. that is one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama, of the democratic party and of our country. [ applause ] >> and now we have daughter chelsea clinton joining her father, bill, criticizing obamacare as well. take a listen. >> next thing we have to do is to finh the work of health care reform. >> yeah. >> look, i worked hard to support the bill that passed, and i've been very vocal and in support of it. they've got one big problem. >> they know we need to work on the affordable part of the affordable care act. liz: jeff, what's happening here? looks like they're splitting the difference, trying to have it both ways. bill and chelsea criticizing it and hillary not talking about obamacare hardly at all on the campaign, and it just seems we've got the enrollment period coming november 1st, a week or so before the election. seems like the clintons are
trying to have it both ways, no? >> makes me wonder since bill's experience was back in the 90s before social media took off. he was so used to getting to say it one way for one crowd and a different way for a different crowd. now we catch all that and see everything. the internet wasn't around. liz: and smartphones. >> until al gore. liz: and also smartphones. >> right. so he either thinks he can get away with that or he wants her to win. they're taking our side of it. obamacare is one of the worst things we perpetrated, the government perpetrated on small business. liz: you hear hillary clinton and bill clinton saying it's insured 20 million people. wait a second. 9 million of the individuals are on medicaid and medicaid costs are going up 114 billion by 2025 because of it. given all that, and three million are on parents' plans. when they say 20 million, look behind the numbers.
so you're a state treasurer, right? chief operating officer. do you feel there is any way to fix the obamacare system? >> you know, we say repeal and replace. a lot needs to be replaced. i don't like it at all. i'd like to scrap obamacare, but you look at it, and a lot of people, like in arizona where, is the money going? why is education suffering on funding level in many states and look at when education drops, a lot of the money is going to health care. health care costs are rising. if we could get health care costs under control, that would allow us to put more money into education in many states including arizona. that's one of the things i look at on a state level. on a national level, the harm this has done to small business community and entrepreneurs has been devastating and we have to get rid of it. liz: make the decision to stay small. jeff dewit, thank you for your time. next up, nsa contractor arrested and possible new theft
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. liz: welcome back, i want to correct myself, florida is the sunshine state, not the golden state. so sorry state of florida. we love you. we have the latest on hurricane matthew. talk about north carolina. the governor of north carolina declared a state of emergency for all 100 of the state's counties and confirming now that president obama spoke with all of the governors of the states affected by hurricane matthew. the state of alabama sending personnel and resources to florida in preparation for hurricane matthew's response. we will keep bringing you the
very latest on this historic hurricane. we've got president obama explaining why he still won't use the words islamic terrorism. >> what i have been careful about when i describe these issues is to make sure that we do not lump these murderers into the billion muslims that exist around the world including in this country. liz: now the council of europe does not want british media, the british journalists reporting if a terrorist is muslim. this comes in a new report from the european commission against racism and intolerance. the chairman said -- report also makes 23 recommendations to the british government urging it to give
more rigorous training to reporters on this issue. joining me conservative commentator gina loudon and jessica tarlov. jessica, really? telling reporters how to report? >> i think it's problematic, this came from a group. it didn't come from the government. see how the government responds to this. it's a sound point to talk about violence and hate speech and what that does, but i think we got into a lot of the trouble by not talk about what's going on here. this has back fired in america. liz: what do you mean? >> the fact that president obama didn't call it islamic terrorism from the beginning fueled this issue more than it should have been. i'm not saying we wouldn't have had the rise of donald trump for it, but this is a point he used as the populist anti-pc movement. the people should talk about the realities of what's going on, we're facing a threat from radical islamic terrorism. that's a fact.
liz: gina seems intelligence underestimates the intelligence of the american people. we all know this is not a war on islam. what we're saying to the islamic peace-loving muslims is there is an issue within islam, islamic terrorism. there is something perverting your religion. i think the president underestimates the intelligence of the american people here, no, gina? >> absolutely. this is exactly why, the globalist ideology and accusing the victims who are the victims of terror in both the united states and europe, it's this entire attitude that the obama and hillary administration seem to not be able to understand that is so offensive to those of us who sit in fear for our lives and our children's lives every single day. this might be one of the reasons why she's not leading
by 50 points, she maintains the thought police mentality that is not resonating with the american people. >> you went a little far with the globalist mentality. donald trump, your candidate is one of the people who misunderstood the situation by proposing a muslim ban, which is what he's walked back now. the fact that somebody jumped speaks to president obama's point. this was a bush policy. he was the first to say he doesn't want to tar the entire religion and didn't use the term. liz: hold on. give gina the final word. the 9/11 report calls it islamic terror, isis' title has islam, the word islam in it. i think this is a distraction this whole fight and basically avoids the central problem and that is there's something in the religion and also sharia law that is slamming and brutalizing people around the world. go ahead, gina. i'm sorry you got ten seconds? >> you are absolutely right,
liz, we have to call it what it is. that's why i'm so glad that mr. trump has broken that wedge of silence that was there and has called it islamic terror because that's what it is and attention needs to focus. >> i do have more to say next time. liz: next time. thank you so much for your time. gina, be safe. don't forget to register to vote. that was president obama, that was his message to floridians when he canceled campaign stop because of the hurricane. he is urgingfloridians to register to vote before tuesday's deadline. next guest says the president is putting politics before the public. that's next. don't go away. >> the president is personally asking to you make sure that you are getting registered and then come november, that you go to the polls. happen all by itself. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness. and believing a single life can be made better by millions of others. as a health services and innovation company
. liz: hurricane matthew gaining power as it moves towards florida at this moment. daytona beach possibly in its path. the city's mayor warning residents to get out since the city has not seen a direct hit from a hurricane nearly four decades. joining me is daytona beach police chief. mike, how bad is it? what are you seeing? >> well, all the projections and all of the models have it as being a devastating event for us. in our history have never taken a direct hit and especially having a hurricane of this size and magnitude bearing down on us. right now we have rain showers, but the key we're trying to
preach to everybody on the peninsula and low-lying areas is evacuate, evacuate, evacuate. get out now. the window is closing. liz: are you getting a lot of phone calls about this right now? >> we are getting a lot of phone calls. we are also getting a lot of revisits. i spent most of my day on the peninsula, and the mother of three children out riding her bike and i pleaded with her, and begged, and she said if it gets bad, i'll call you. i said, ma'am, if it gets bad and you call, we are not going to be able to respond. the time to leave is now. we are taking children in police headquarters. they can come right in and eat and play and just ride out brunt of the storm here in the safe facility. liz: so are people evacuateing? >> people are evacuating. but we have a hardcore group that are refusing to leave. they believe they've been through previous storms, that they're going to ride through
this, and we keep trying to tell them, this is not like any previous storm. we have people who have been here 50 or 60 years who tell us they've never seen anything like they are seeing right now. liz: be safe, but also don't forget to register to vote. that's president obama's message out to flooredans when he canceled florida campaign stops. he was telling a florida radio station via telephone that, you know, you have to be safe during the hurricane, but don't forget to register to vote ahead of this tuesday's deadline. take a listen. >> i was supposed to be in florida today. couldn't do it because i didn't want to take away assets as people are preparing. everybody who's been paying attention to this campaign should know we've got a big choice ahead of us. the president is personally asking you to make sure that you are getting registered.
liz: daily caller news foundation's chris bedford. you say the president has mikd priorities. how do you think floridians take this message, chris? >> i don't think well, the president who has such a firm grasp of optics, this looks bad. ev extremely important to the gop and the democrats come november for whoever wants to win the white house. what's most important to the people florida right now is dealing with the biggest storm that's hit florida in over a decade. we haven't had a hurricane like this in 11 years, and they're going to take a direct hit like the police chief just said. for the president to say by the way, tuesday we need to register to vote coming up around the corner. that shows callousness, not too dissimilar from the callousness that hillary clinton's campaign showed when they booked the advertisements on the weather channel which they later withdrew. liz: you wonder how this affects floridians. 45% of floridians did vote
early. overall 31%, in 2012. why is the tuesday florida deadline so important for the democrats here? >> they want to make sure everyone that they can get out to vote, votes, the particulars have folks they are trying to rouse up, haven't voted in previous elections. liz: is there an enthusiasm gap with hillary at the rallies? is that an issue? she needs to get the vote out in florida. is that an issue for hillary clinton? >> it is an issue. right now by the average of the polls, she's only leading two points, not nearly a safe distance for hillary clinton and where they definitely think they need to be. they need to stop hammering the vote to get out. should be donald trump would be a losener a hurricane, since he's behind nationally, the hurricane takes up airspace, what everyone wants to talk about. he doesn't have the time to
catch up in the limited days of the election. instead with the democrats who are desperate and want to put more space between them and donald trump, they're putting their foot in their mouth over and over again trying to tell floridians stuff that is not life or death. that is what floridians should be worried about now. liz: chris, thank you so much. appreciate it. a media bias alert, genuine moment on the steve harvey radio show revealed to actually be scripted. take a listen. [laughter] >> did you see the look she gave me? liz: all right, my next guest says hillary's act of surprise was an act. a newly leaked e-mail shows her campaign had the questions in advance. we've got the details next. don't go away. (music playing) ♪ push it real good... (announcer vo) or you can take a joyride.
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. >> this is what now -- i don't want this to be taken the wrong way. i have lied so many times. [laughter] so i have probably have a little bit better eye for this. >> no, no, i can see you have more experience. [laughter] . liz: critics calling hillary a great actress. new e-mail leak reveals talk show host steve harvey may have let hillary clinton's camp script her own interview. they played a game where the two tried to separate fact from fiction, the e-mail revealed the show told her the exact
questions steve harvey would ask. the internal memo shows two aides assuring clinton's people saying we coordinated closely with the show's producers of the script and the format of the show. the memo said the program was a light talk show, suggesting that hillary clinton would not be grilled on policy or other serious topics. the media research center says the e-mail reveals yet more bias, but you're saying it's taking it to another level. go ahead, dan? >> well, this is part and parcel to this election. we've watched the news and the entertainment media gang up to try to get hillary elected. you see commercials almost every couple days now, "avengers," "star trek," "empire" cast. they get together and this is part of it. this is script. they turned the information they got into a 19 page working memo.
this isn't just entertainment. this is puppetry. liz: you've been watching the media for very long time. is scripting out talk show interviews and answers and giving a candidate the answers or the questions ahead of time, have you seen that before? >> i'm sure it happens some. but to the idea of doing it for a presidential candidate is sort of beyond the pale. liz: have you seen it before? >> i haven't seen anything this bad. no, i have not. and it was so bad that at one point during the show, they have a celebrity guest that they're supposed to pick out of the three people. two lies and the truth. and one of the people are real, two are phony. they give her the name of who the celebrity guest is. basically anyone the age of two could look at phone, type in
the name and get the guest right. this was entertainment. this is not anything real. liz: was that the part of the memo you found most eyebrow raising or something else in the memo that you thought -- >> i think the idea there is so much detail about every single question, you look at this, and you go, it's almost impossible to flub this interview. and when he asks the question, she's acts like she's surprised by the questions. this is like watching a sitcom. liz: thank you so much for bringing the story dan, appreciate your time. have a good night. thank you for joining us. speaking of media bias, we have an msnbc reporter, he's caught actually cheerleading president obama's u.n. climate deal, saying it goes so far to stop hurricanes from happening again. we have a meteorologist who disagrees. he says hurricanes are on the decline now and have been for
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joe? >> yeah, as far as the united states goes, the impact of hurricanes was far worse in the 1930s, 40s and 50s, if you look at tracking chart for instance of major hurricane hits in the 1940s, florida was like a grand central station with 7 major hurricanes, including the 1947 west palm beach hurricane which then went into new orleans after and flooded new orleans. but you simply have to go back and look at what happened before to understand this. i'll tell you what, if i see providence, rhode island under 14 feet of water again like 1938 or wind gusts to 136 miles an hour at blue hill southwest of massachusetts, a five-minute wind speed of 121, that was the 1938 hurricane, then perhaps i might consider that hurricanes are getting worse. we've been blessed in this country for right after al gore came out with his big movie how everything was getting worse, hurricanes and mother nature
can do this, seemed to slap him in the face. liz: joe, their argument is the oceans are getting warmer and sea levels rising that is conducive to hurricanes, what do you say? >> sea levels have risen within the natural boundaries what sea levels can rise, 8" over the last 100 years and seen over the years, you take new york city was underwater at one time but there were glaciers around new york city, too. the answer is not does the climate change is how much does the increase of co2 out of 10,000 molecules of air over 100 years do to a system that seshgsternally worked with the suns, the oceans the castic event and the design of a planet which is most of the land in the northern hemisphere, water in the southern hemisphere rotates around inconsistent sun and wobbles on axis. it's silly to think such a minute amount compared to the entire picture is climate
control. does it affect it? perhaps it affects it some, but can you measure that compared to all the other grand scale drivers that we talk about in meteorology and climate. liz: you are saying the weather system is such a gigantic system it's hard to disentangle all the factors. >> the oceans are warm because going through 30 years of the indian ocean, pacific ocean and the atlantic ocean being in the warm cycles. let's wait 20 years and if they're all on the cool cycles, by that time, the horse is out of the barn and everybody is spending their money like in spain. look what happened to their economy with the great green experiment. talk to people there. liz: joe bastardi, thank you very much for your time. hurricane matthew bearing down on florida's east coast. one of the strongest storms to hit florida in decades. we have the latest developments after this. don't go away. like our passive aggressive environment. we're not passive aggressive. hey, hey, hey, there are no bad suggestions here...
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liz: fox business, we'll be bringing you the latest updates on hurricane matthew starting a the 4:00 a.m. tomorrow. remember to stay safe this evening. we'll see you tomorrow. "making money" with charles payne is now. charles: hurricane matthew is bearing done on florida. the state bracing for massive destruction and power outages. the florida governor has ordered 1.5 million residents to evacuate. joe, tell was you expect. >> this storm may intensify to a category 5 before it reaches the florida coast. it's tracking further east than what i thought this morning. it looks like it will go for freeport, the west end of the