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what, it couldn't use. >> unbelievable. this is your money, this is the organization that deals with your money. purchase was made without seeing if the service is technologically feasible. >> that's it for us. "risk & reward." liz: it's been a remorseless, embarrassing release of documents that in any other election year would ruin a campaign. this is the latest batch of wikileaks e-mails revealing a hillary clinton campaign in turmoil. at this point, january 2008, polling voters about president obama's potential weaknesses, including muslim connections. welcome to "risk & reward," i'm elizabeth macdonald in for deirdre bolton. in 2008, hillary's campaign polling efforts were basically serving voters about then-senator barack obama's potential vulnerabilities, and the muslim obama narrative came up, it was included on the
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list. president obama was then senator, had decisively beaten clinton in the iowa democrat caucuses at that stage in the race in january 2008 it. basically had staggered the clinton campaign and put it back on its heels. the revelations arose in e-mails between now clinton campaign chairman john podesta, super pac adviser paul begala. obama's father was a muslim, obama grew up among muslims in the most populous islamic country. other vulnerabilities include obama did not cover his heart during the national anthem at event. obama supports giving driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants. talked about former use of cocaine as using a little blow. senior adviser joins me now. good to have you, a.j.
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a.j., paul begala trying to put top spin on this, we were polling to help president obama out, then senator obama to fend off right-wing attacks. lot of top spin on this one, a.j.? >> what's paul going to say, right? this is damning. if you recall there is an interview, i think i was with charlie rose where hillary clinton is asked, do you believe these talks and the rumors that president obama is a muslim? you don't believe that, right? she laughs it off and says i have no reason to think so, and she kind of implied there was a doubt as to whether he was. now we know, we know for a fact now this is actually being discussed in her camp, and it was a line of attack that they were at the very least thinking of putting out there. proof is in the putting. no way they can spin this, and you have other e-mails calling latinos, my community needy. no wonder -- liz: stay with me on this.
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this is proof, despite the fact that now hillary's campaign said we have nothing to do with the birther movement. that's how trump basically got launched into the political sphere. don't you think this is proof that, yes the hillary campaign was trucking around stories about the birther movement and president obama being muslim, right? >> yeah, even worse, this is something that we have barack obama saying listen, i'm a christian, that should have been the end of the story and pushing the narrative what a man's religion contrary to what religion as stated is, it's horrifying that they would choose such an ugly, i don't think there has been an uglier line of attack in recent political history that compares to trying to portray barack obama as a muslim when he certainly is not. it's shameful. it's shameful. there are no words. liz: i'd like your thoughts on this one. former u.s. ambassador reportedly told senior hillary
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clinton campaign adviser that israeli officials viewed president obama as, quote, weak and pro muslim and anti-israel. here's the quote -- what do you make of that, a.j.? >> well, i'm not sure what the angle was there. barack obama's presidency hasn't exactly been great towards israel. that did turn out to unfortunately be an issue. at least from my perspective. but on that topic, i think the bigger concern from the hrc camp, from the hillary clinton camp is huma abedin referring to apac, a lobby that does wonderful work mostly on behalf of the jewish community, referring to them as, quote, that crowd. i don't think that has been discussed enough in the media,
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and somebody who is concerned, though i'm not of jewish faith about anti-semitism, that strikes me as highly concerning. liz: you know, i'd like your thoughts on this one. it just keeps on coming, we're try to sort it through for the viewer to get to the bottom of it and take out the top spin we're getting, too. wikileaks e-mails reveal clinton's team's early plan for handling bill clinton's sex scandals, shows hillary's team had a plan to respond to questions about alleged sexual misconduct on the former president. and 150 page debate prep book was attached to march e-mail from campaign manager robbie mook. bill clinton what do you say to the women making accusations? and the e-mails show hillary clinton's strategy to dismiss the questions as offbase and outdated sxuvenlt what's interesting, a.j., it is true to form in the plan was that
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hillary would answer, you know, donald trump can run his campaign any which way he wants. that was in the prep book, and nine months later you see hillary saying this in response of donald trump. what do you make of that? >> how ironic, they set out one of the planned defenses to the bill clinton horrifying scandals is it's outdated. really? yet here they are bringing up audiotape of mr. trump from how many years ago? and accusations of which i consider false and defamatory and disgusting about an alleged plane ride that happened, when, 1985? really? but line of attack is it's outdated? come on. there is no way they can defend it. they know that bill clinton angle is horrifying not just for bill clinton but hillary herself, she had a role for what happened with the women. >> could be reason why her untrustworthy numbers are high, she studiously avoids answering with the bulletproof answer, looks like you're answering
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without answers, donald trump can do what they want with their own campaign. now two new women coming forward alleging trump sexually assaulted them, one is kristen anderson at a new york city nightclub in the 1990s. listen. >> the person on my right who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump, put their hands up my skirt. he did touch my [ bleep ] through my underwear, absolutely. liz: here's another, summer zervos. >> he put me in an embrace and i tried to push him away. i pushed his chest, put space between us and said come on, man, get real. he repeated my words back to me, get real, as he began thrusting his genitals. he tried to grab me again and i said, you're tripping right now. attempting to make it clear i was not interested. he said what do you want? i said i came to have dinner.
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he said, okay, we'll have dinner. liz: here's donald trump firing back with his response. >> one came out recently, where i was sitting alone in a club. i really don't sit alone that much. honestly, folks, i was sitting alone by myself, like this, and then i went, wah! [laughter]. >> i just heard this one, it's like, it's like unbelievable. even a simple investigation would have shown these allegations against me in just about all cases, it's nonsense, it's false. liz: a.j., donald trump said at the appropriate time he will bring proof that the accusations are false. why not bring forward the proof now? why wait? >> he will at the appropriate time. liz: why wait? why are you waiting? why wait? >> there is perhaps additional information being gathered.
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it will be revealed and shared in public at the appropriate time. liz: really? 25 days left until the election. what's the appropriate time? >> we can wait another day or two. information is being gathered. liz: have you seen it? >> i have not. and i don't have any information to share with you. there is information that will come out. and facts that we currently have, voters can use common sense to figure out whether the stories, which are unsubstantiated, uncrop rated, no witnesses, whether they're credible. liz: one final question, are you telling -- advising or anybody advising donald trump not to personally attack women on their appearance and the like? >> he has not attacked the women on their appearance. liz: some would dispute that? is anybody advising him to not do personal attacks? >> mr. trump doesn't need to
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advise anyone on that. liz: we have more anti-bill clinton race protesters disrupting the ex-president's rallies. one disrupted president barack obama's rally today and one of bill's accusers juanita broaddrick asserts the protests are warranted. >> i was raped by bill clinton. i was viciously raped, and then three weeks later, when i happened to be at a fund-raiser for him, but i didn't attend the fund-raiser, i was just going there to hand in information to tell them i was no longer going to volunteer for the campaign, hillary personally threatened me. liz: to political power panel senior policy analyst, independent women's voice hadley heath manning and democratic strategist sascha burns. sasha, what do you think of how bill clinton is handling this? >> well, i don't know what you're going to say to somebody
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who's auditioning to be on a reality show. liz: who do you mean? >> the people who are doing this rapist t-shirt, alex joan is the trump ally, offered to pay them money. liz: who is auditioning? >> alex jones told him he would pay the money if they wore the rape t-shirt. and 1,000 to wear it and get in the camera. 5,000 if they spoke. this is a guy that says president obama smells like sulfur because he's the devil. i think you don't respond to that. liz: you're talking about people who show up wearing the t-shirt, not the accusers themselves. >> right. liz: hadley, what do you make of what's happening in this campaign? >> any acquisition of rape or sexual assault, regardless which side of the aisle or who's accused or when it took place should absolutely be taken seriously. we havic to victims and accusers seriously and thoroughly investigate any accusation. aside from politics, that
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should be obvious, go without saying, and no surprise that bill clinton's past is coming back to haunt him and his wife hillary clinton in the election cycle when we heard so much debate about respect for women or disrespect for women but many women are going to go to the ballot box not so much thinking about the past, thinking about the comments that trump made or what bill clinton has done in the past but the future. thinking about what trump administration or clinton administration might mean for them and families on national security, economy, and so forth. it's much bigger, much broader thought process that women voters have. liz: the issues speak to character, but what's happening is donald trump accusers, bill clinton accusers and hillary clinton's policies that may not help the economy that's at issue. and sascha, you have been great pointing out president barack obama's policy has not grown the u.s. economy. hillary looks like obama 2.0.
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>> i haven't said that. liz: you talked about regulations, slowing growth -- about five years ago, you came on? >> wow, you remember what i said five years ago. liz: yeah. >> president obama has done a great job growing the economy. liz: the slowest, worst recovery since the great depression. >> well, there hasn't been another recession since there was the great depression. he took what he was handed and did a great job. i want to agree with you hadley on that, i absolutely agree women who come forward need to be treated with respect regardless what side of the aisle. i will say i can't say enough how much it is that bill clinton is not running for president. it's unbelievable that this is about bill clinton, and she enabled him. we don't know that. i'm not saying i disbelieve juanita broaddrick. we went through all of this in the 90s. all litigated. liz: this is what i was getting at, and an important point,
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who's best to grow the economy, right, hadley? the president has doubled federal deficit, people are scared about that. 20 trillion federal deficit, that is huge, hadley? >> that is exactly right. i don't mean to suggest the personal character of the candidates is not relevant. it is relevant. and anything is fair game. the policy questions may weigh much bigger in voters' minds. what are we going to do about health reform? obamacare, a system that's broken, most americans are discouraged about, unhappy with. what are we going to do with energy sector, a country that's going to pursue energy in abundance or go backward and continue to follow policies that we know won't give us the growth we need. liz: listen, i listen to everything sascha burns says, that's why i remember it. more from the wikileaks e-mail hack, clinton's campaign manager urging the camp to court needy latinos.
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hillary clinton status quo. she calls us needy latinos. she calls young people my age, you know, basement dwellers. i think this is absurd because i don't think a woman in her position, a person running for president should insult half of the country. i don't think it's okay to be calling half of the country basket of deplorables or irredeemable. to me, that's just completely absurd. liz: well, you know, the e-mail also said this about governor richardson -- you know, again, the clinton campaign, i mean, we get it, these are political operatives, venting behind the scenes, not saying about a big block of their voters. >> exactly, exactly.
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they're not nice behind the scenes to their base, to the people they need, and, you know, the response that you see by the clinton campaign, by her advisers is that it's russia's fault and that russia is behind this. they never want to own up to their own words and what came out of their mouths and i think they should because i think it's about time that the american people hold the clintons accountable for everything they've done in the last 20+ years and i think they're starting to see that with the latest batch of e-mail releases. liz: you make an important point because they blame russia but haven't said that any of these e-mails are inauthentic. i want you to react to the next subject. two more women accusing donald trump of inappropriate sexual behavior, at a rally in greensboro, north carolina, he says he thinks he knows who's behind the groping allegations, mexican billionaire carlos slim.
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listen. >> no paper is more corrupt than the failing "new york times," the largest shareholder is carlos slim, carlos slim as you know comes from mexico. given many millions of dollars to the clintons and their initiative. so carlos slim, largest donor of the paper from mexico. reporters at the "new york times" are not journalists, they're corporate lobbyists for carlos slim and hillary clinton. we're going to let foreign corporations and ceos decide the outcomes. you just can't do this. liz: this is speculation, sounds scurrilous, there is no proof offered nestor. what proof that carlos slim is behind any of these attacks? >> i think that what donald trump said has some validity to it. i think a lot of us think that journalism, proper journalism, unbiased journalism is dead. we think it does not exist
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anymore. and as trump said, he is, he is a stockholder in the "new york times." liz: there is no proof offered that carlos slim is behind any of these women coming forward accusing donald trump of inappropriate sexual behavior. there's no proof. he's an investor of the "new york times." we all know that. >> i think that a lot of these stories that are coming out, they can be valid or invalid but they're coming from sources that are biased to donald trump, that are biased against the republican party. they are biased against conservatives in general. let's say marco rubio was the nominee, they would have brought up the stories too on some women that have allegation against him. so i think regardless of who the nominee would have been, regardless if it's donald trump or not, the "new york times" and other newspapers are biased against conservatives and the republican party in general.
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liz: nestor moto, thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. liz: president obama meeting with national security council on the fight in syria and isis while russians are asking if we are headed for another world war? charles payne will be all over the subject. tune in after the show for the latest. next up, judicial watch releasing new hillary clinton e-mail answers she gave under oath. here's what's really happening. hillary clinton used variations of the i don't recall for most of them. the guys who sue the government for the e-mails is judicial watch attorney, he's here to explain after this. >> have you always told the truth? >> i've always tried, to always, always. >> some people are going to call that wiggle room that you gave yourself. you always true to. jimmy carter said i will never lie to you. >> you're asking me to say i have ever? i don't believe i ever have. i don't believe i ever have. i don't believe i ever will.
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. liz: hillary clinton finally responded to a questionnaire from judicial watch about her private e-mail server. however in 21 of 25 questions, hillary said i don't recall. with me now judicial watch attorney. what was the most blatantly abusive use of the term i don't recall. what, in your opinion, was it that hillary was saying i don't recall when she could have easily answered the question? >> yeah, i think the most interesting one was question 7 which was should have been an easy one to answer for anybody who was not intentionally trying to evade foya. the question is other than convenience is there any other reason you created the private server. the reason is i don't recall why i created it. i'm positive the only reason i
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did this was, this i remember this, and i never spoke differently to anybody else. to me, that question is going to be interesting to -- the answer is going to be interesting to the judge. liz: chris, she's saying i don't recall why i set it up in the first place. the other one was the use of the i don't recall, i don't recall ordering e-mails deleted. i don't recall asking that my e-mails be permanently erased. and the one that stuck out, chris, and i want your thoughts on this, she said i don't recall in answer to the question, did you get a february 2011 memo warning of increased attempts by foreign hackers to hack into your state department colleagues' private e-mail accounts? that was showing the state department was getting hacked. hillary clinton got an e-mail, sent out a memo about it, she said i don't recall the memo. >> troubling, suggests it wasn't very much on her mind, whether or not the security of the state department
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information was not a priority, and it should have been. liz: the next one, i'd like you to respond to, just leaked e-mails from the wikileak document dump revealing hillary clinton had a, quote, cordial relationship with attorney general loretta lynch, an e-mail from her aide houma abedin says she knows loretta, not extremely close relationship. definitely a cordial relationship. what does this cordial relationship tell you about the tarmac meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch in loretta lynch's airplane? >> yeah, certainly does not help loretta lynch at all, this e-mail. she's already been criticized heavily for having the meeting, which the appearance of impropriety from meeting the husband of somebody under investigation by your agency is huge. this e-mail is not going to help her defend from the charges that that never should have happened which most people agree with it shouldn't, so
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certainly doesn't help or make her look any better. liz: we have a development that may tie president obama deeper into the hillary clinton controversy. remember, chris, that the president said publicly he did not know hillary clinton had a private e-mail server and he e-mailed with her infrequently. however, we've got another new john podesta e-mail that broke this morning. in it, he said -- so the president seems to know that hillary had a private e-mail server. he also was using a pseudonym in e-mailing her, what do you make of that? >> at a minimum he knew she was using nongovernment e-mail address, if he didn't, he should have. this is the president. he has a responsibility like secretary clinton did to make
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sure his agency heads are following the freedom of information act and all the government employees are following the freedom of information act. he should have said i noticed you are using different e-mail, is it complies with foia? that would have been a good thing for the president to say. liz: chris, thank you very much for your time tonight. appreciate it. coming up, republican gubernatorial candidate getting heat for selling these isis hunting permits, trying to raise money with it. it is a joke, but not playing well. the candidate and former navy s.e.a.l. is going to talk about it. a new report that the mainstream media gave trump's accusers seven times the coverage versus hillary's wikileaks scandal. we'll show you the numbers next. >> they are so dishonest. [chanting] this man creates software, used by this bank,
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tonight devoted 9 minutes to trump versus 30 seconds on the wikileaks release. nbc news 0 minutes on wikileaks, 9 minutes on trump. my political power panel is back with me now, hadley heath manning and sascha burns. what do you make of that? >> republicans are used to facing unfair environment when it comes to mainstream media and this election cycle is no different. one smart strategy trump has used whether or not it will continue to work for him is a different story. he has made it part of his platform to run against the system. he says the system is rigged, and he includes the mainstream media in the system. any time he's attacked fairly or unfairly, he uses that in an attempt to rile up his base in an effort to criticize the media. liz: what do you think sascha? >> it's the same thing that happened in the primary. he sucks all the oxygen out of room because of the things
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says. how much did we hear about jeb's tax policy versus tiny baby freaky fingers. what was his response to it? you're watching a train wreck. wikileaks if more comes out about them, as they continue to come out. hillary says she wants to grab somebody's crotch, that would be covered a lot. the things he is saying are so repulsive, you know, seeing a 10-year-old as a future sex object, it's so shocking to people that, yeah, it's going to get a lot of attention because people are interested in it. liz: the other thing too, hadley, donald trump said basically made comments about paul ryan, the ricketts family that owns the cubs. jeff bezos said in so many words, i'm going paraphrase, he will get even with them. when you consider a presidential candidate would have at his power, the sec, the fbi, the irs that is discomforting, no? >> it is, and i agree with
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sascha, the salacious things donald trump says are good for ratings apparently because those are the things that suck all the oxygen out of the room. when voters need to know a lot more, not just about wikileaks but the platforms of the different candidates. liz: that's the point. >> how trump might work with paul ryan is an issue of great concern to voters. liz: stay there. i want both of your response, breaking news from the new york post reporting that the trump campaign will be putting forward a witness to refute sexual assault claim. donald trump's campaign says a british man is countering claims that the gop presidential nominee groped a woman on a cross-country flight more than three decades ago. saying i met the accuser once and cannot imagine why she is seeking to make that -- donald trump, the accusation against her, not only did he not do so and i was present at all times. she was the one being
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flirtacious. sascha, what do you make of that? >> we're waiting to find out why melania lied about immigration status. liz: what do you think about that? >> we'll wait and see if there is credibility to it. i am not going to take a 30-year-old version of someone who was not one of the participants as anything to be believed until i can find out a reason it should be believed. liz: hadley, a response to this, report nbc held onto the trump tapes for months in order to release them at politically damaging moment for trump. 48 hours before the presidential debate according to one report and dominated the news cycle, billy bush boasted about the video to nbc staffers in rio covering the olympics but it was released only now. what do you make of this, hadley? >> wouldn't surprise anyone that the bush tape was in the mix if the clinton campaign had it or the dnc had it or
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mainstream media outlets had it and sat on it in order to influence the election. wouldn't surprise anyone. whether it's true, is a different story. sad that on the mainstream media, it would not be shocking. liz: as journalists, journalists report the source of where they got the information from. do you think they fell down on the job and should have reported the source who gave them the tape? >> no, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten it, right? whoever gave it to them. liz: the "washington post" could have reported it. >> what's that? liz: the "washington post" could have reported how they got it. >> why would they? why would they report who the source was, right? liz: because it changes the story. let me just give you an example. the "wall street journal" was covering the tobacco companies boosting the nicotine intake with things like ammonia and the whistle-blower stepped forward saying they're doing bad things. the whistle-blower was getting
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attacked by brandon williamson and wanted the journal to not report that brandon williamson was the one feeding the negative information about the whistle-blower. that became part of the story that the tobacco company was going after the whistle-blower. do you see my point? >> i do. whoever gave the tape to the post was not going to say who they were week got it from nbc, we don't know how they got it. liz: i hear your point. an important one. what do you think? >> adds to credibility as a journalist when can you say where you got the information. from that's fortunate stave off the story to run away with itself how the media reported the story instead of the story itself. that's what we should be focused on. always better to say where the source is. liz: now it's about the coverage, the narrative is baked in that donald trump basically assaulted or harassed these women and we have to see the proof. as journalists we have to see
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the proof. thank you so much for your time. the republican gubernatorial candidate down in the polls by double digits in august. the race is in a statistical dead heat. was it new ads or isis hunting premise that campaign cooked up to raise campaign cash? he's former navy s.e.a.l. and missouri gubernatorial candidate cesar greitens, he's next. >> i'm a navy s.e.a.l., and i'll take dead aim at politics as usual. at old dominion, we ship everything you can imagine. and everything we ship has something in common. whether it's expedited overnight... ...or shipped around the globe,'s handled by od employees who know that delivering freight... ...means delivering promises.
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. >> i'm no career politician, i'm a navy s.e.a.l., and i'll take dead aim at politics as usual. liz: that was a political ad from republican missouri gubernatorial nominee and
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former navy s.e.a.l. eric greitens. he has cut an 11-point deficit in the polls, that was basically from august to now. a statistical tie. how did he do it? well, he came up with this marketing technique. isis hunting permits. the campaign sells them to raise money. they expire when the terror group is defeated. he's with me now, a former navy s.e.a.l. and republican gubernatorial candidate eric greitens. you are giving out isis hunting permits as part of the campaign. how is it playing in your home state? people saying this is over the top, or liking it? >> people are loving it. just the other day, we had rob o'neill come into missouri for a rally. he shot and killed osama bin laden. we brought a clear message to the people of missouri, i'm a navy s.e.a.l., political outsider, i'm an entrepreneur, husband and father, and spent a lot of my life helping other veterans come home and get quality private sector jobs and
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starting to run their own businesses. our message is we're running against a crooked clinton-style politician. this is a guy who is the chief law enforcement officer who failed missouri and the nation at ferguson, whose top priority is expanding obamacare and a guy on the front page of the "new york times" as the most corrupt attorney general in the country, and as you saw in the ad, we're committed to putting an end to politics as usual and taking missouri in a new direction. liz: you're a law and order candidate about economic growth, is that it? >> absolutely. we need more jobs, higher pay and better streets and schools for all missourians, looking for a leader who's able to get results for them. liz: you turn your numbers around. a new fox poll shows donald trump trailing hillary clinton nationally 7 points. what advice would you give donald trump to turn things around? >> well, we've been really clear, i think we've been successful because we let
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people know there's a clear choice in this election. my opponent's a guy endorsed by the most extreme partial-birth abortion organizations in the country. this is a guy, chris koster -- liz: what would your advice be to donald trump, though? >> my advice would be to present the people of the country with the clear choice that's before them, and to focus on the policies that divide us. when we let people know in missouri that chris koster, like hillary clinton, his top priority is expanding obamacare, people say, hey, we've had enough of obamacare, we want eric greitens, the navy s.e.a.l., the conservative outsider willing to take the state in a new direction. liz: eric, i'd like your response to the new york post reporting a witness will come forward, a british man countering claims that the gop presidential nominee groped a woman on a cross-country flight
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saying i have met once this accuser and cannot imagine why she is seeking to make out that donald trump made sexual advances on her. not only did he not do so, and i was present at all times, she was the one being flirtacious. what do you make of that? >> you know what? i haven't seen that story yet, liz. we've been on the campaign trail here in missouri. we're starting our bus tour tonight. six events across the state of missouri tomorrow, but i will tell you here in missouri we're 100% focused on defeating corrupt clinton-style career politicians like my opponent, and i think it's really important that we here in missouri we get the mission done for the people here. liz: eric greitens running on the republican ticket for the governor of missouri. good luck to you, sir. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks so much, liz. liz: sure. you heard about the athletes kneeling during the national anthem. now we have to vet the people performing the song? listen to this, during a
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liz: the singer of the national anthem at the sacramento kings preseason game monday chose to take a knee performing the song. she explains her decision saying quote -- joining me now, a veteran calling for boycott of the nba and nfl. new hampshire state representative al baldasaro. do you think this was appropriate, sir? >> i don't think it was appropriate at all. we're a nation of laws. i believe in the constitution under the first amendment rights. but i also believe that vit right not to spend any money on the nfl or the nba for letting this happen. we have a u.s. flag code that they're not complying with. liz: colin kaepernick is going to be the starting quarterback
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with the coach calling it a football decision. do you think there was political pressure to start him first as well? >> i think there is probably a lot of political pressure to put him on. i think this has been so blown out of proportion. many white people have been killed. i think if we are pulled over, respect them, we wouldn't be where we are today. we have a u.s. flag code that talks about respect for the flag. many of my fellow veterans made the ultimate sacrifice for their flag. liz: you know, it's quite a story and still going on. you know, the nba has rules, the nfl has rules that you have to respect the flag. do you think the nfl should change the rule? >> i think the nfl should grow a spine and stand up because there are many patriots that go to the games. many gold star mothers that lost their kids. when we go to war, we fight under the flag. come to new hampshire and check out the capitol.
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we have a hall of flags. no politics, nothing in the hall of flags in our state house. liz: and the men and women like you who fought for our country fought for the flag which basically stopped oppression around the world, racism and bigotry overseas, a lot of good things have been done in the name. flag, final thoughts, al? >> a shame they're using the flag to push the agenda. like i said, many veterans died, they shed blood for the flag, and i think they need to go to another area. liz: the third and final debate between donald trump and hillary clinton will be hosted by fox news next week. details are next. don't go away. (announcer vo) or you can take a joyride. bye bye, errands, we sing out loud here. siriusxm. road happy.
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lou liz: the third and final debate will be hosted by chris wallace
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next week. maria bartiromo kick off predebate coverage. don't miss it. making money, charles payne next. charles: good evening. i'm charles payne. fast moving and stunning developments on the campaign trail. two more women have stepped forward claiming the republican nominee sexually abused them. and trump is taking aim the hillary clinton. >> the largest share holder in the times is carlos slim. he comes from mexico. he has given many millions of dollars to the children tons and their initiative.


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