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clayton: we're going to talk more on the after the show show, join us, fox and friends.com. abby: have a good sunday. ♪ ♪ maria: good sunday morning. the work begins. president trump planning a big week of executive orders this upcoming week and implementing his campaign promises to get the economy growing. hi, everyone, i'm maria bartiromo. thanks for being with me, this is sunday morning futures. president trump will sign several executive orders this upcoming week. i just hung up with a senior official, and he tells me he will sign executive orders on trade, immigration and jobs. he will cap the week this week with a meeting with british prime minister theresa may.
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president trump also telling the intelligence community he is behind them 1,000% during a trip to the cia headquarters but facing criticism for spending much of the time going after the media while standing in front of a wall honoring fallen cia agents. all of this while millions of people across the country have hit the streets to try and disrupt president trump's plans by protesting, marching in dozens of cities to protest his past words and actions as candidate trump. we have an all-star lineup to discuss the road ahead. house homeland security committee chairman michael mccaul is with me on what he expects from congress in the coming weeks. senator roy blunt, the chairman of the inauguration on this historic day, and journalist paula broadwell joins me on the president's plan to combat cyber warfare. also here with me carly fiorina and grover norquist zero in on what trump policies will mean to you. we kick it off right now with former house speaker newt gingrich. mr.mr. speaker, thanks very much
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for joining us. >> good to be with you. what a week. maria: what are you expecting in the way of executive orders this week? >> well, i think the he's going to take significant steps continuing down the road with moving back obamacare, taking first steps on immigration. i suspect he will suspend a number of president obama's policies that were soft on immigration. i think he will also begin moving towards a much tougher trade policy particularly with mexico and china. and i think all that's going to come, plus i think they're going to go through a lot of deregulation, stripping away a variety of things that president obama did, for example, in his war on coal. and i think you'll see president trump rolling back a lot of obama's executive orders. maria: okay. so in terms of the executive orders with regard to immigration, you know, senior officials are telling us at fox news that it's going to be immigration, it's going to be trade, and it's going to be jobs. and we know he's going to cap
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the week with a meeting with theresa hay, the u.k. prime minister. -- theresa may. what specifically are you p expecting in terms of immigration and trade? >> i think this is two things he could do that would be very widely accepted. one is to return real enforcement power to the border patrol and immigration service and instruct them to deport immediately people they catch crossing the border which is the opposite of the obama policy which has been to allow people to come into the united states and then go through a long,convt never worked. the second would be to put border agents or immigration agents inside big city jails. historically, prior to the recent sanctuary city bologna, you had an immigration agent inside the jail so when somebody got done serving their time, if they were illegally here, they never got on the street. they went straight from the jail to the blues bus and were taken out of the country immediately. and i think that in a place like chicago which has had 4,000 people shot last year, getting
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rid of illegal foreigners who are criminals, i would think, would be pretty hard for mayor emanuel to oppose. maria: all right, let's drill down on that for a moment. what could president trump do to insure that mayors like mayor emanuel actually follow the law in it's extraordinary to me and many in our audience right now that there is law in place and, in fact, these sanctuary cities have completely blown off the law for so many years. >> you know, one of the lessons i learned from president ronald reagan is when you have a choice between an 80/20 fight on your side or an 80/20 fight on their side, pick the one that's to your advantage. so let's take the case, this is why i strongly urge them to focus, and he can do it by simple executive order, instructing immigration naturalization services to go and reestablish the offices and instructing that they should take criminals when they get out of jail directly out of the country if they're illegal and
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then serve that notice to every major city. and this is, frankly, a public fight he should relish. if rahm emanuel is going to try to defend putting criminals back on the street in a city with 4,000 people shot last year, i think that is a totally hopeless position with the average person in america. and that's the kind of fight the president should start looking for. where can he get an 80/20 advantage. i think the idea at the border of blocking people trying to come in, returning them immediately, changing the obama policy back to what it historically has been, these kind of things could be done very quickly, they'd have overwhelming public support, and they would set up the right kind of approach to then start building the wall which is the other thing he should be issuing an executive order on assessing and instructing secretary kelly to look at, as homeland security, how can they build the wall. governor abbott of texas, who has about half the border,s has already indicated he wants to cooperate with secretary kelly, that texas wants to play a role
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in helping control immigration because they have literally half the exposure of the whole country. maria: which leads me to trade. what is the executive order he's eyeing in terms of trade, and then take us through jobs. >> well, to be honest, i don't know what specific steps he's going to take on trade. i think he is going to be instructing the department of commerce and the treasury and the u.s. trade representative to pull together a strategy across the board to reopen things. he may well file an intent to renegotiate nafta which there's a clause in nafta that one of the three countries can decide to file and say they're going to renegotiate. he may well do that this week which will be a pretty strong signal. he may also talk with british prime minister may when she comes here on friday about the possibility of a u.s./u.k. free trade agreement. it's a bilateral between the two of them. i think the british would be very interested in. that. maria: yeah. >> and the canadians have an economy that's totally
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integrated into the u.s. we co-produce a number of things, so i think the canadians would like to find a new way to work with us rather than be involved in any confrontation or struggle. maria: yeah, this makes a lot of sense and, of course, all in line with what he has been saying on the campaign trail, frankly. let me get your take on something ted cruz said to me on friday, newt, because the markets have been expecting tax reform in the first 100 days. at a minimum, evidence that, in fact, they're working on tax reform. but ted cruz on "mornings with maria" on the fox business network on friday said to me they probably can't actually pass legislation on tax reform until the budget reconciliation, the next budget reconciliation, end of the summer, fall. what's your take? >> well, look, i would yield to mitch mccardiology on that. they -- mcconnell on that. they get two budget reconciliation bills this year. one, i think, comes up in february and the other comes up this summer, although i think it maybe comes up in june.
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that certainly would be the logical place to do it. the other thing to remember though is if they do the right kind of tax reform, you have a lot of democrats up for re-election next year in the senate this states that president trump carried. and if the business and jobs interest in those states -- for example, the ceo of ford motor company said, look, i'm going to keep this factory in the united states -- maria: right. >> -- but i'm doing so counting on president trump to get the tax breaks and the regulatory breaks that we've talked about. now, michigan democrats have to decide do they want jobs enough to actually work with ford motor company, or are they so anti-business and so owned by the labor unions that they'd rather give away michigan jobs and then them to mention -- send them to to mexico? maria: yeah. that's a really important point. how damaging is it that 70 dems didn't go to the inauguration, that senator schumer seems to be stalling the confirmation process here? >> let me draw a distinction. the 70 democrats who didn't go
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to the inauguration were neither missed, nor deeply regretted and nobody, frankly, cared. and if they feel better about it, good for them. what schumer's doing is unconscionable. barack obama, president obama got seven cabinet appointments confirmed the first day. what schumer's doing is putting petty, negative, nasty politics ahead of the management of the federal government. maria: yeah. >> the president has the right to have a cabinet to run the government, and i think people should come down on schumer like a ton of bricks. i think, frankly, patriotic democrats ought to be furious. be this whole notion of we're just going to screw you up to prove that we can be partisan at the beginning of an administration is the opposite of what republicans did to president obama in 2009. maria: yeah, that's really important: very quickly, newt, do you think jeff sessions gets confirmed this upcoming week? >> i hope so. he should. i have a sense in the senate that there are a number of senators going to vote for him because they've worked with him, they know better, and i hope that's true. although, frankly, cory booker's comments the other day were
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really sad -- maria: yeah. >> because he'd actually co-sponsored things with senator sessions and said nice things about senator sessions and then felt compelled -- i assume for 2020 presidential reasons -- to go and be nasty. so you can't tell. the democrats are sort of in a bad mood. martha: mr. speaker, thanks very much. newt gingrich. president trump making a peace offering to the intelligence community. house homeland security chairman michael mccaul is next weighing in on the president's remarks. let us know what you'd like to hear from our big lineup of guests this morning. stay with us as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ i'
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branch after heavily criticizing the intelligence community. the president's coming under fire for spending the the lion's share of his time speaking about the media. nick shapiro greeted a statement from his form to -- tweeted a statement from his former boss, director brennan: maria: texas congressman michael mccaul is the house homeland security committee chairman, and he joins us now. thank you so much for joining us. your reaction to what went down at the cia. >> you know, i watched the speech. i thought it was very significant that the very first stop of this new president was to go see the central intelligence agency to reach out to them, to applaud them for their efforts. he basically said they are probably the most important agency within the federal government in terms of foreign policy and fighting this war on terror which this his inaugural
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address said for the first time now i'm hearing a president say the words radical islamic terrorism. maria: that's right. so can president trump bring the country together and be on the same page inside, you know, externally and internally, in other words, what the public sees and what the people inside see on national security? this is critical. >> well, i think if you look at who he has appointed to the national security post, he's appointed a very strong team. general mattis, bun of the -- one of the most highly respected generals in the military. you know, general kelly will be the homeland security secretary. i'll be working very closely with him in ming president trump's agen forward inclung the security at the border and other issues like cybersecurity. and then mike pompeo, a colleague of mine, traveled with overseas to the middle east and northern africa, knows the intelligence community, has their respect.
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and i think you're going to see a very strong national security policy moving forward not unlike president obama who led from behind for so many years and let the terrorists win. think you're going to see a change now where we're boeing to start winning -- we're going to start winning against the terrorists. maria: president trump went to the cia alone. you would have thought he brings secretary pompeo but, of course, we're waiting on the confirmation process. what's your take on what's happening with the confirmations process? what do you think the timeline looks like in terms of this stalling that seems to be happening within the senate? >> well, i think within the next two weeks, i hope. i mean, particularly the national security posts need to be confirmed immediately. i was glad to see that mattis and kelly got confirmed on the day of the inauguration, but to hold up mike pompeo's nomination to be the director of the cia is irresponsible. there's absolutely no reason why he should be confirmed immediately to one of the most
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important, you know, our intelligence community needs to go forward with a leader. i think it's irresponsible to stop that process. maria: all right. what do you want to see in terms of executive orders this week as it relates to immigration? obviously, our borders, one of the key talking points on the campaign trail and one of the critical issues to the american people right now. what do you want to see president trump do in the way of executive orders and policy in the coming hundred days? >> well, i think allow, you know, border patrol and i.c.e. to do their jobs, to basically mandate that you have to honor a federal i.c.e. detainer if you have someone in custody that is under the detention of i.c.e.. respect federal law in these sanctuary cities, i think that's a big step forward. and i think also the thing i'll be working closesly with general kelly -- closely with general kelly on will be how are we going to secure this border, how are we going to construct
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fencing. he also talked about aviation assets, technology. how are we going to get that border secure to stop the criminals, the drug dealers and potential terrorists from coming into the country. i think that's going to be, perhaps, from where i stand and where i think general kelly stands probably the number one priority moving forward in the next several months. maria: what do you say it is? what's the answer to that? >> well, we have a secure fence act, we need to complete that authorization bill that we passed. we these to appropriate the rest of that -- we need to appropriate the rest of that. but also i think there are many places where we can erect very high level fencing, some bricks and mortar, but a lot of aviation and technology assets. i talked to the governor of my state about the rio grande river and the challenges that presents. but it can be done. and i think the most exciting thing for us as republicans is that we don't have this divided government anymore, that for the first time now in eight years we can actually move forward and get things done like getting
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that border secure once and for all. maria: yeah. you have a window of opportunity here. a lot of expectations, congressman. we'll be watching. good to see you, sir,. >> you too, maria. maria: up next, former or presidential candidate carly fiorina joins us weighing in on what to expect in the coming weeks as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." back in a moment. ♪ ♪ we've done well in life, with help from our advisor, we made it through many market swings. sure we could travel, take it easy... but we've never been the type to just sit back... not when we've got so much more to give
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♪ ♪ maria: welcome back. president trump taking the reins of power with just two members of his cabinet confirmed. the creties of defense and homeland security have been confirmed. they are now sworn in and ready to go to work. many cabinet nominees, though,
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are still playing the waiting game. you just heard newt gingrich saying that the senate is stalling. the the president will need all of his cab net in place sooner rather than later as he has a very ambitious agenda for his first 100 days. joining me now is carly fiorina, the former ceo of hewlett-packard and, carly,s it is good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> great to be with you, maria. thanks for having me. maria: i want to get to what you think is possible and how you see these confirmation hearings, but let me start with the women's march because you're seeing tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of women march in several cities across the country, dozens of cities, actually, to protest what candidate trump has said in the past. you're a woman. were you at these marches? >> i was not, and i certainly have been public in my criticism of some of the things that donald trump has said in the past. on the other hand, sadly, pro-life women were not welcome at this march. i'm pro-life.
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so my conclusion about this march, while i certainly agree with these women that women's rights are human rights, apparently they don't believe in the right of a woman to choose what she is going to believe. unfortunately, this was a group of women who have, of course, the right to protest, but i think what they were protesting is they don't like donald trump, they wanted hillary clinton to win, and the long litany of progressive causes. whether it's a woman's right to choose right up until the last minute before her unborn child is born or wage, minimum wage increase, etc. so i don't happen to believe those things. maria: you know, one of the beautiful things about our country is our freedom of speech and the ability for people to get out and voice their opinion on things. but how disruptive is this now while president trump is actually beginning the work? >> well, it is disruptive, and i'm disappointed because i think what these women demonstrated, of course they have the right to protest.
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but apparently they are unable to separate the process of our freedom of elections and the institution of the presidency from their litany of causes. i think giving this president a little time would have been useful because, in fact, he hasn't done anything yet. he can't do anything yet. and perhaps they ought to wait and see, and see if he is successful. i didn't vote for president obama, but i wanted him to succeed. and i gave him a chance to succeed. and i hope that many of these women will as well. maria: yeah, really well said, carly. at the same time, you heard what newt gingrich said sat at the top of the show, that senator schumer is being petty, trying to stall the process in some of these confirmation hearings. he only has two secretaries confirmed at this point. what's your take in terms of what's going on in terms of these confirmation hearings? >> well, i think clearly the democrats were looking for a pound of flesh to extract from this administration through cabinet appointees. i'm not sure they're going to get it.
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this is, without a doubt, a highly qualified group of nominees, and they clearly have gone through all of the processes. i think the ethical issues that are being raised are petty, frankly, and so i think president trump will get his nominees confirmed, and i think the sooner the democrats get on with it, perhaps the more credibility they will have when they get ready to stand up to something they claim is more important. maria: yeah. we want to talk about what specifically will get done because right now it's on repeal and replace obamacare, and then we're going to move to tax reform. carly, thanks very much for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me, maria. maria: now to president trump's tax plan. it looks to lessen the burden on you, the taxpayer, and business -- particularly small business. when can we expect it to be approved by congress, and what will it mean for you and your family? grover norquist is with me right now, good to see you, thanks very much for joining us. we want you to get to the nitty-gritty, grover, we wanted to hear from carly in terms of
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what is possible, but we really want you to do a deep dive in terms of what this tax reform package looks like. what do you expect? >> sure. if first, understand that there's going to be two tax cuts. one is getting rid of a trillion dollars this obamacare. in obamacare. there are 20 taxes in obamacare including the increased capital gains taxes in obamacare. when we abolish obamacare, repeal it -- and that is being moving forward on reconciliation -- that's a trillion dollar tax cut. we tend to think of it as repealing obamacare. it's a huge tax cut, also pro-growth. then we get to tax reform, tax reduction. that has -- it's going to be released by the house as they work out the final details within a hundred days. then within six months of trump becoming president, it will have passed the house, the senate and trump will sign it. what we have is a trump package which came during the campaign and a house package put together by paul ryan and chairman brady.
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those packages over the last eight months, the two sets, have been moving towards each other. trump put on the table, everybody wanted to take the corporate rate from 35 to 25, trump said let's go to 15. maria: right. >> so the republicans in the house said we can go to 20. it's expensive to go to 15, but we'll go to 20, and we'll look at 15. trump did not have full expensing in his original package. it was in his second package. so the two most pro-growth parts of tax reform -- full expensing, so businesses don't have long depreciation schedules but expense in year one, what an investment makes, that's going to speed up real investment, make it less expensive -- and the second part is taking the corporate rate from 35, highest in the civilized world, down to 20 which makes us competitive to the rest of the world. we should go to 15 eventually. maria: yeah. >> they're also looking to have a territorial tack system -- tax system, and because there is
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this consensus, and republicans have been working on this for almost a decade. we haven't been able to pass any tax cuts under obama, but we've been working on writing it. trump is sort of in the same zone. that's why -- reagan got it all done in nine months -- maria: right. >> and he was up against tip o'neill. maria: okay. >> we have a republican house and senate. maria: that's a really good point. i want to ask you about the timing of it. you say nine months, reagan got it done. listen to what ted cruz told me on mornings with more ya on the fox business -- mornings with maria on friday. >> this summer, fall we're going to do a second budget reconciliation, and that is intended to be the vehicle for impactful and meaningful tax reform. maria: grover, we both know the markets have been rallying on this expectation that tax reform's going to get done in the first100 days, he just said summer/fall. what's your take? >> in the first hundred days, we'll know what it looks like.
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and it will include that it takes effect starting january 1st of this year. so the market is wise to say the rate's coming down as of january 1st. and full be expensing as of january 1st, 2017. so people can be making decisions on investment, on repatriation of american corporate earnings overseas. and as you were saying, all businesses large and small see a 42% cut in the corporate income tax. a lot of individual small businesses -- maria: right. >> -- pay through the individual right. that rate's cut to 25%. so it is a cut, however your business is structured, if it's business income, the tax is cut 42% which is extremely powerful. i think we're going to be at the early end of what ted cruz was talking about, six months. it's also going to have in the tax package in reconciliation many of the spending reforms. so while you might see some people waiting to see if we
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could add some things in -- which i think would be very good, block granting, all the welfare programming out to the states saves trillions of dollars over the years -- maria: yeah. you make a really good point in terms of business and the impact. very quickly, grover, does the estate tax go away for individuals? what about individuals who are watching? how is their life different? very quickly. >> top rate goes down to 33%, the death tax is completely gone since, the first time since world war i started, and the amt gets abolished as well. this is a very important set of pro-growth, pro-savings reforms. maria: all right. grover norquist, we leave it there. just a fountain of info this morning. thank you so much, sir. we see you soon. how soon will president trump fill the vacant seat on the supreme court? that's also on the agenda next two weeks, that's what missouri senator roy blunt and chairman of the inaugural ceremonies will talk about coming up. liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours.
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maria: and the torch has been passed as donald trump officially becomes our 45th president this weekend. the inauguration surrounded by pomp and circumstance with mr. trump taking the oath of office on the capitol hill steps. my next guest helped kick off the entire ceremony, senator roy blunt, chairman of the joint congressional committee on inaugural ceremonies. sir, it is good to see you, and it was good to see you up there on friday kicking everything off with your introductions. how do you think it went?
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>> well, it was good to be part of that. i actually think this is one of those things that we do that's very important not only here, but all over the world. you know, i started my remarks by quoting president reagan in his first inauguration was what we do here is common place and miraculous, and the miracle is that we've made it seem commonplace, that since 1789 every four years, whether it was in the middle of the civil war or world war ii or economic downturn, we always have that transition of power, that peaceful transition of power. and one other thing, maria, since world war ii only one time has either political party held the white house three times in a row. so as often as not, not only are you changing the president, but you're also changing the political party in charge. and the way we do that is, i think, one of the great examples of democracy we set for the world. maria: yeah, i agree with you. i was there, and i could not
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have been prouder. i felt so honored to be witness to the way we do things and the democracy that unfolded, which is why it's so sad to see 70 democrats boycott the inauguration. even hillary clinton tweeted out i'm here because of my loyalty to democracy. how damaging or what was the impact that those democrats decided not to come? >> you know, i don't think it had any real impact. i mean, they have to decide on their own how they explain that decision, and many of those democrats that didn't come are democrats that i've worked with and look forward to continuing to work with. i think senate democrats all came. it was house democrats that decided they were going to make a statement. but there were plenty of people that wanted those 50 or 60 or whatever it was seats. 1600 people on that platform, a great reflection of our constitutional government. and so there were almost 500
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members of the congress there. president clinton, president carter or, president bush, every president that was able to be there was there. maria: yeah. >> that says something about what happened that day. maria: it sure does. let me move on to the work that has begun already, senator, and president trump has said that he is going to put forth his pick for the supreme court seat vacated by the late anthony and a lee e ya within with -- scalia within two weeks. what are you expecting? >> well, i expect, among other things, that the legacy of president trump, the greatest legacy is likely to be the courts generally. over a hundred vacancies of the courts of appeals and then the appeal to those courts, the circuit courts, it's an incredible opportunity for him to really establish a long-term view of what the courts look like. and and, of course, nowhere more important than the supreme court.
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we know he'll have one vacancy to fill, i think you have to imagine that there'll be more than one vacancy in this four-year term. and so a court that's been evenly divided for a long time is likely to be defined by this president. and i know he's thinking about this. i had a chance to visit with him a little bit before the inauguration, it's one of the topics we briefly talked about. but i think it's maybe the most important legacy he's likely to leave, and we intend to confirm his nominee. maria: so you think his nominee gets confirmed despite what senator schumer is saying, that they're going to scrutinize as much as only? >> i think, absolutely, his nominee gets confirmed assuming that that nominee doesn't have a problem that the president doesn't know about when he nominates him. he's going to nominate somebody conservative, somebody, hopefully, healthy and young that's going to be on that cour. and remember, the other hundred
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plus vacancies without any question can be confirmed by 51 republican senators or 51 senators of any mix. but i think we're going to see the republican senate have a real impact with this republican president on the future of the court system. maria: all rightful we'll be watching that important nomination. thank you so much, senator, good to see you this morning. >> good to see you. maria: up next, president trump telling the intelligence community his administration will do whatever it can to combat hacking. more on that as we speak with journalist paula broadwell coming up. ♪ ♪ when a cold calls... achoo! ...answer it. with zicam cold remedy. it shortens colds, so you get better, faster. colds are gonna call. answer them with zicam! zicam. get your better back. now in great tasting crystals. the markets change... at t. rowe price...
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maria: welcome back. the revelations that russian hackers meddled in the u.s. election have brought renewed focus on cybersecurity. president trump addressing cyber
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warfare during his visit to the cia yesterday, vowing to make it a priority to develop both defensive and offensive capabilities. paula broadwell is director of the think broader foundation, a nonprofit organization focusing on media accountability. she's the author of all in, the biography of former cia director david petraeus. paula, it is good to see you, thanks very much for joining us. >> great to be with you, maria. thank you. maria: as an intelligence officer, you've traveled as an academic as well, you said to me every system is vulnerable. you're naked online. you've studied this topic for a long time. what do with we need to know in terms of the vulnerability of our very important security information? >> well, you used an interesting word earlier, the renewed interest this cyber hacking influence operations. this may be a renewed public interest, but the department of defense and our intelligence agencies have been working on this issue for a long time. the incoming director of national intelligence has said
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it's our number one priority to combat cyber espionage, cyber attacks against our financial infrastructure, our electric grid and, you know, other information that can influence politics, so it's difficult not an emerging issue, but a paramount inor shoe -- issue this our national security realm. more hr. can we do anything about it? -- maria: can we do anything about it? >> first, we need to acknowledge we're in a cyber war with many countries around the world. approximately one trillion in financial losses around the world from chinese espionage, for example, in the use of our intellectual property, i think the estimates are about 100 billion for american losses. so acknowledging that the problem is there, and then working on a public and private solution to counter the cybersecurity attacks and disruption of services wherever they may occur whether it's in government or in the private sector or on an individual basis, each of us these to acknowledge our vulnerabilities. maria: paula, you saw during the
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campaign year, last year, rather, that donald trump repeatedly mentioned what hillary clinton did via her e-mail server, in his view, was much worse than what general petraeus did. what is your reaction to that? >> well, i think there's campaign rhetoric and rhetoric you use when you're in office, and i do get asked this question a lot. i think in any case where there's a handling of classified information, you have to look at several mitigating factors. was the person's intent to conduct espionage? was there any harm done to our national security interests? and did they acknowledge their wrongdoing and accept responsibility for it? so if you apply that to the different cases that you mentioned, i think the circumstances are different. i don't have any real knowledge about what secretary clinton was storing on her home computer, so i can't really comment on that. maria: so you think the circumstances were different, and you think justice was served with regard to general petraeus versus hillary clinton? >> well, i'm not at liberty to discuss that at length, but i
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think if you look at cases including chelsea manning, you can see these same circumstances were applied when the government is evaluating the prospects of prosecution. now, of course, you have to consider politics at play especially when rank is involved, but i think it's difficult for me to comment really specifically on the two cases. maria: in terms of chelsea manning, there was a conversation that perhaps, you know, president obama wanted to commute her sentence because it was politically correct to do so. >> i don't know if political correctness is necessarily the right word. i would say that it's a tacit acknowledgment by president obama that his administration was pretty vigorous and overzealous in prosecuting leaks and that he's acknowledging that serving seven years is, you know, a good penance, and it's time to give him a chance, give her a chance to move on with her life. >> in terms of what's happening now and general petraeus' state,
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have you been in touch with general petraeus? >> no, i haven't. maria: paula, i know that you have been at the women's march. you run a foundation in terms of looking at things through a gender, a gender lens. why did you participate in the women's panel in washington yesterday? >> well, as you mentioned, i run a foundation that focuses on media accountability and equality, and i believe in our constitution, in the right to protest or stand up for something. i went there personally to show solidarity with other women who during the campaign season feldt they feldt -- felt they were slighted and their rights weren't respected, and i didn't necessarily agree with every position that was taken at this march, but i believe that we need to acknowledge that equality, inclusivity and diversity have a place in our national dialogue, and i was really inspired that the president used the word solidarity in his inauguration -- maria: but what do you want the president to do? what do you want the president to do? what do the women who are
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marching, trying to disrupt business taking place, what would you like to see from president trump then? >> well, let me say that that march i participated in was a very positive environment. people were helping each other, helping disabled people to get through crowds, respecting each oh's diversity even if we didn't agree with each other. there were trump supporters -- maria: but they're creating the crowds, right? >> well, again, back to respect of the first amendment and the right to assemble, to petition the government for grievances, i think we need to acknowledge this was a peaceful protest. these women and participants had something to say. personally, i think we need to look at our national security policies, our domestic policies through a gender lens. more women die from domestic violence in a five-year period than men died in vietnam. that is a crisis. we need to acknowledge that one in three women in the military and one in five women in america are victims of sexual assault, and we need to do something to create policies that are inclusive and create safe environments for all people.
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maria: paula, we appreciate your time this morning. thanks for joining us. paula broadwell joining us there. our panel weighs in on the new administration. that's next, stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet? this is one gorgeous truck. special edition. oh, did i say there's only one special edition? because, actually there's 5. aaaahh!! ooohh!! uh!
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maria: what to expect in the weeks ahead from this new administration, we bring in ed rollins, former campaign manager for the reagan/bush ticket in 1984, steven sigmund, lee carter, president and partner at meslanski and partners. good to see everybody. you were very interested in talking about the inaugural speech, ed rollins. there's donald trump at the podium. >> he showed great strength.
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he gave exactly many of the same speeches he gave across the country. he didn't say anything to the 1600 people behind him who were really the establishment government. i'm going to do it my way, and he was talking to the people in front of him. maria: there's president obama sitting right there, there's the whole house leadership, paul ryan and kevin mccarthy, and here's trump saying all these politicians talk, talk, talk, and they haven't gotten anything done, i'm giving the power back to the people. >> look, i actually feel a little differently, i thought for him it was a good, populist speech and on message for him. the if it was ungracious and a little dark and had a lot of promises in it that he's going to be held accountable for, what was interesting to me though was the dichotomy between the speech that day and the follow up yesterday which was completely botched. it was going back to the same kind of pittty fights about nothing that has got him a 37% approval rating, the lowest of any incoming president in history. maria: and because, lee, the focus there is, what? how many people watched the
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inauguration? >> listen, it was a bad move. they were, obviously, trying to get the conversation away from the march back to what happened the day before, and it wasn't the right way to go about it. when he talked in the speech, he talked about if we pursue unity, we are unstoppable. what he should have done is said, yes, three million people marched today, i hear that. 30 million people tuned in yesterday. let's talk about what we can do to come together and about the next ten days, because i promised action, and i'm going to act. i promised i'm going to listen and represent the people -- maria: you're right. people want him to get to work. >> i think this is going to be a polarizing presidency. we are a divided nation. if he does what he says he's going to do, which is undo a lot of what obama has done, and move this country forward in his direction -- and he's going to be measured by this speech -- he's not going to become a 45, 50% president. he's going to deal with that 40% until he accomplished a great deal, and it may never be to the end of the administration. >> i think this administration ignores the three million people who marched yesterday at its
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peril. i sort of agree that republicans and trump supporters dismissing that march as sore losers or is sort of the same thing that we democrats did by, you know, dismissing all trump supporters as, you know, racists and, you know, being -- maria: deplorables. >> i agree with you 100%. >> that was a real movement yesterday and almost half of them were children who are going to be the voters of the future. maria: yeah, emerging voters. >> that's right. and i think that we have to remember sean spicer, or his job is to be a fixer. he should go out there, reassure people. he should be the one cleaning things up, not making messes, and i believe that yesterday what he went out and did -- >> i don't disagree with anything anybody said except i don't think he's going to do this. i think he's going to basically drive his agenda and try and make the congress go along with him, and if they don't, they do so at their own peril. maria: if he gets things done, the attitude changes. >> maybe, but the takeaway he's had from the election is i won, so i should keep doing what i've been doing.
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maria: right. >> previous presidents who won with less than 50%, bill clinton and george bush, ended up with 60% approval ratings -- >> but i do believe he promised in his speech to represent all people. maria: yep. we'll see about that. it's not just a car... it's your daily retreat. go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. at angie's list, we believe there are certain things you can count on,
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