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drunk driving has caused so many deaths, and if you happen to not kill someone during the time you were doing it, then no big deal. >> and remember katesteinly, there were several chances for him to be turned in. but it was a sanctuary city. >> that does it. risk and reward is next. >> nonsense if this is a muslim ban. this is a ban on travel perspective from countries trying to prevent terrorists in this country from countries that have a recent history of training and sporting and harboring terrorists. >> i would suspect as long as they're not awful people that they will move through before another half a day today and perhaps some of these people should be detained further and if there are folks that shouldn't be in this country, they're going to be detained. so apologize for nothing here liz: the dow suffering its biggest post election loss today. this as the trump administration is now on defense. after an outcry erupted here
and around the world over his temporary ban on immigrants and refugees from seven terror hot spots. and now as global leaders, republicans, democrats, even ceos condemn the ban. the push is on to not only block trump's cabinet picks, but his entire agenda, including repealing obamacare and tax reform. welcome to risk and reward i'm elizabeth macdonald in for deirdre bolton. tonight we have an all-star lineup. we'll have former presidential candidate mike huckabee, american sniper chris kyle interpreter himself who supports the ban, architect james mitchell and a constitutional expert who says refugees do not have the same rights as u.s. citizens. also, this hour we are monitoring a kosher vote in the senate on rex tillerson's nomination for secretary of state.
we're also watching a committee vote on lyndon mcmann to one the small business administration. also, within the hour, democrats will gather on the steps of the supreme court to protest president trump's executive order as unconstitutional. now, 13 of trump's cabinet picks have yet to be confirmed and the democrat's new plan is block or delay their confirmation and news is coming thick and fast that they may pick up eight republicans who pose a temporary ban and could side with them in blocking trump's agenda. we've got trump's senior adviser telling fox news the time is now to get tougher on terror as there have been 91 terror plots since 9/11 in the u.s. though, the majority of the plotters were u.s. citizens and just one was the refugee from iraq. >> hundreds and hundreds of foreign nationals and foreign-born naturalized citizens who have been implicated in terrorism in the united states since 9/11. this is a matter of national security. it's a matter of keeping the public safe.
and the reality in a world with 7 billion people, the united states has an absolute sovereign right to determine who can and cannot enter into the united states. liz: let's take this to american islamic forum founder zuhdi jasser. no, we're going to use a sound bite from zuhdi jasser. he told us that he agrees with trump's policy. >> the muslim, there's nothing more american than fighting theocracy, and i think the problem with the last eight years has been, yes, they've been vetting, but they've been vetting about terrorism. violent extremism, tactic, it's time to shift towards countering violent islamism, jihadism, there is nothing more muslim. we need to stop the identity politics of the left. there is nothing more pro muslim than vetting against jihaddists so that those coming in truly represent muslims who believe in freedom and our way of life. liz: fox business senior washington correspondent peter barns. he's here to break down exactly what the order does and does not do. peter.
>> well, that's right, liz. numerous scripts and political leaders from the dnc counsel on american islamic relations or care are calling this a muslim ban, but so far, the two most prominent fact-checking organizations the washington post fact checker and prize winning politicalo fact are not siding with the critics on this one. president trump himself noted there are quote 40 countries worldwide that are muslim that are not affected by this order. acknowledge that the seven countries covered by the president's action, iraq, syria, iran, sudan, libya, somalia, and yemen are majority muslim. but the obama administration previously described these countries as terrorist hotbeds. a lot of the refugees from countries were, in fact, christians from 2012 to the present. about half in the case of iran.
and allowed expedited treatment for them and any other minorities that claimed to be prosecuted. according to the order on a case by case basis, the secretary of state and secretary of homeland security may issue visas or other immigrant benefits to nationals of these countries if they determine that it is in the u.s. national interest. liz. liz: terrific reporting, peter. you know, we really need a fact check like that. thank you so much for coming on. >> you bet. liz: next up, president trump says a temporary ban similar to what president obama did in 2011 when president obama banned visas for refugees from iraq for six months. here are other from trump's team making that argument. >> president obama suspended the iraqi refugee program for six whole months after two iraqi refugees were implicated in al-qaeda plot in kentucky. >> it is literally 100% the same. 2001 and 2017 are identical. so this idea that there are
has been a change or downgrade is utter nonsense. liz: let's go to governor mike huckabee, governor, i'm so glad you're on the show. you know, it's not quite the same, though; right? obama's was one delay for country, iraq, and the two iraqi terrorists caught here in kentucky. obama did not sign an executive order for a outright ban; right? >> well, but there was an act in 2015 that was actually enacted by congress as part of a budget bill, and it slowed down immigration from seven different countries, the seven that are mentioned. i've read the executive order that donald trump signed. he did not mention seven countries. he only mentioned one. that one was syria. so when people say donald trump banned muslims, he did not. that's a lie. or that donald trump singled out people from seven countries. he didn't. that's a lie. truth is there's a total of 109 people out of over 300,000 traveling that got delayed. they didn't get locked up, handcuffed, put away, they got delayed.
heck, liz, i get delayed by tsa sometimes because i took too much shampoo in my bag. so for people to act like it's chaos all over the world, that's just not true. the chaos is being created by the protesters who aren't going to like anything donald trump does. but a lot of us like the fact that he does want to keep america safe. liz: here's president obama weighing in quote with regard to comparisons to president obama -- this is from his team with the foreign policy decisions as we've heard before, the president, meaning president obama, fundamentally disagrees with the notion of discriminating against individuals because their faith or religion. other critics, governor, saying it's not right to bar refugees because they come from a particular country. so what are your thoughts on president obama weighing in here? >> well, let's be, first of all, very clear. president trump did not single out people for their religion.
again, that's a lie that the media is telling and that the leftist are telling. what he singled them out for is if they come from a country that is a hotbed of terrorism. and if we can't fully vet them. now, look, this is a keeping of a promise. donald trump said throughout the campaign he would engage in extreme vetting. you know, i think what's going on here, donald trump is getting in trouble for something that people have never seen a politician do. keeping his promises. they're used to a guy saying you can keep your doctor if you like him, you're going to get, you know, $2,500 less on your insurance. they're used to hearing people say things that they know they don't mean. donald trump said it. he meant it. he's doing it. and now they're acting like they can't believe that he's actually doing -- liz: i hear what you're saying. >> exactly what people said. liz: senator mccain is coming out saying, you know, it was poorly explained to allies and u.s. security officials. but you know what i want to do, governor? let's just go through the numbers, because we like to go
through the numbers and fact check. for the terrorists involved in the plot in 9/11, 108 were u.s. -born or naturalized citizens, or they have legal permanent residency status. one was a refugee of iraq. of the 190 terrorists involved in the 191 plots in the u.s., when it comes to those in the ban list, you see the number. one from syria, one from somalia, yemen, iraq, and so on and so fourth. and the last 15 years, no individuals from the five of the countries on the list, iran, libya, sudan, yemen, are linked to any terror attacks. they could be linked to training camps in places like libya. what are your thoughts on those numbers? >> well, i know of one case in particular because it involved arkansas. the little rock shooter that was radicalized, was radicalized in yemen. he was an american, but he was in yemen where he was radicalized.
he came back and murdered a soldier who was standing in front of her recruiting center in little rock. so we have citizens that it's not only the noncitizens but citizens that get radicalized. now, let me be clear. sometimes with he lose this fact. a person who is a citizen of another country has no constitutional right of anything in america. if they come to this country, it is because we allow them to just like if i go to -- i've been to almost 60 countries. i didn't go in there and demand say i have a right to be here because i don't. i had to ask permission. liz: and, governor, trump's order cuts in half the total number of refugees this year. but that sort of sets at 50,000, wasn't that the same level it was under george w. bush? i mean, i think the last eight years were kind of an on anomaly; right? or no? >> i think they were. they were characteristic of what the obama administration wanted, which was essentially
open borders at every level. well, that hasn't worked out real beautifully for us, and it searchlight didn't work out well for europe. we're learning those lessons. donald trump is actually trying to protect americans. he said he was going to do it. he's doing it. some of us thank god he's doing it because we feel like it's a message to the world that we're not going to be chumps anymore and america's going to be a strong nation that will protect itself and protect its citizens first. bravo. that's what a president ought to be doing. liz: yeah, and the fact is ten terror plots, attacks rather in the last eight years, 400 people injured, 113 killed in the last eight years terrorist-inspired attacks. let's get to democrat senator chuck schumer moved to tears over the president's temporary travel halt. >> this executive order was mean-spirited and un-american liz: president trump earlier
today governor questioning whether the senator's tears were fake and just for the cameras. let's take a listen. >> i noticed that chuck schumer yesterday with fake tears. i'm going to ask him who was his acting coach. because i know him very well. i don't see him as a crier. if he is, he's a different man. there's about a 5% chance that they were real, but i think they were fake tears. liz: by the way, governor, we saw your daughter sarah in the back of that shot. she was sitting behind the president. what do you think of senator schumer's reaction, governor? >> well, let me, first of all, say the fact that my daughter is there proves how smart trump really is that he put her on the team. i don't know whether chuck schumer is crying for real or not, i don't know him as well as the president knows him. but here's what i do know. i'm pretty sure that chuck schumer voted for the very bill in 2015 that did put a real hiatus on a lot of the immigration from the very
seven countries that trump is accused of banning people that he didn't. it's part of a budget bill. i just wonder where were chuck schumer's tears when that bill got signed by president obama. where were they? i don't know. i mean, i just think that this is about a political grandstanding. this is not because somehow the world went into chaos because donald trump kept a campaign promise and decided that he was going to put together a very serious vetting process for people coming to america. good for him. liz: you know what, governor? here's what's going on now. 13 -- we know that 13 cabinet nominees have yet to be confirmed. that includes jeff sessions, tom price, rick perry. and donald trump is announcing his supreme court nominee tomorrow night. doesn't he need senator schumer and we're seeing a growing number of republicans oppose the ban, eight of them. i mean, they could easily block his agenda and the nominees and his supreme court nominee. what do you think? >> well, if they all want to
lose their next election, i guess they could do that. but it would be a fool's errand to block all of the cabinet poin appointees, when even republicans didn't block some of the appointees unless there is some legal or outrageous action on part of that nominee that causes them to say we can't do it. but if we remember something, the republicans have the majority and there's three magic words that mitch mcconnell needs to say out loud in the senate chamber. "call the role" because they've got the votes and the democrats can slow it down, and they can make a mess of it. but ultimately, the republicans have the votes, they are the majority and by gosh, they need to act like it. to quote president obama, elections have consequences, and we won. . liz: all right. thank you, governor mike huckabee. please come back on the show.
we like having you on. always great. >> thanks a lot, liz. liz: next up an iraqi who agrees with president trump temporary ban. not just any refugee. it's american sniper chris kyle's interpreter. he's here to tell us why he agrees with the ban after this. your insurance company won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says, "you picked the wrong insurance plan." no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. liberty mutual insurance. what powers the digital world? communication. like centurylink's broadband network that gives 35,000 fans a cutting edge game experience. or the network that keeps a leading hotel chain's guests connected at work, and at play. or the it platform that powers millions of ecards every day
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liz: welcome back, as president trump comes under fire for his travel ban, one iraqi refugee is firmly defending it. my next guest goes by the code name johnny walker. he was the interpreter for american sniper chris kyle, and he joins me now. johnny, thank you so much for coming on the show. we really appreciate it. now, you are a refugee from one of the seven banned countries, temporary ban. iraq.
why do you support president trump's travel ban? >> i mean, first of all, we have to think about one thing. president trump, he put united states at the first level of his priorities. he's not going to play some games with telling some names about terrorists or something. no, he just, like, i want to protect my country no matter how much it's going to take me. and one of those things he wants to ban refugee for three months. and this is give us more safe environment for our family, our kids, our wives, our parents, and i think everyone love united states should support trump. . liz: so to your point what you just said, many are criticizing the president for, you know, issuing the executive order so quickly.
what do you think of that criticism? >> can you ask me again? i apologize. my english is not that good. >> . liz: the criticism is that it was rushed in quickly and our allies overseas were not alerted to it ahead of time and maybe people who helped with the fight against terror could be put on the line here because it was rushed in so quickly, and they weren't given the heads-up. what do you think? >> yeah, they can wait for three months. he did not put life in jeopardy and lose life. and if you don't mind, i want to remind you about something that happened in 2015 when at that time president obama put ban for six months on iraqi refugee program because he said that al-qaeda, they came to kentucky. so why no one call him racist?
why no one call him you are against muslim? why when trump stops it for three months, everyone, like, they make like trump, he presents all the christians in the world and the refugees the muslims. and this is the media and the democrat party and obama. it looks like in this way. it looks like that it is war between islam and christian and this is wrong. this is big mistake. he organized this country. he want to make people proud about america again. and this is not -- obama disagree with that, and that's why we have all the media against trump now. liz: yeah, i hear what you're
saying. we're showing images of you with chris kyle. you know, the media is also making, you know, reporting a lot about this fellow iraqi refugee and u.s. interpreter held at jfk over the weekend. he had a u.s. visa. he was eventually let go. does news like that concern you at all? >> no. why? i mean, when one of the countries, they want to do everything to protect his own people. why am i concerned? imagine if american citizens go to iraq. what are they going to do? they're going to kill him. and just because you wait at the airport three, four, five hours, i don't think so. and many times i traveled between cities in the united states and, you know, my amazing accent and my amazing ugly face, they stopped me,
they questioned me, and i love when they question me because those people, they give me hope they are not corrupt, and they want to do the right things. liz: right. >> just today, like, 40 minutes ago, i just talked with one of my friends, he lives in moace yo mosul, he run away from turkey. he said bro, we live in 18th century. iss took us back in the history. and when the iraqi army came, they put checkpoint, and they charge people money. so imagine all this chaos compared to what happened with a few refugee. liz: i hear what you're saying. >> so i think this is not fai f. liz: all right. johnny walker, you're and congratulations on your new book. we really appreciate you coming on the show. come on again. we love having you go. >> thank you, ma'am. god bless you and god bless america. liz: god bless you too. silicon valley calling out president trump for his travel ban. however, we have an
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. liz: we've got breaking news. it's now happening on the floor of the senate. new york senator chuck schumer just trying to get consent for the senate to vote on a bill to undo president trump's immigration executive order. senator schumer's also requesting a delay in the nomination of rex tillerson to become secretary of state. we said this was going to happen, according to our reporting, and it's happening now. we will bring you any new developments. next up we have big tech ceos among many others railing against president trump's
immigration order. ceos of google, twitter, facebook, apple, all now speaking out. joining other ceos from tesla, nike, ford, ge, and goldman sachs. they are publicly condemning the ban. arguing that the immigrants make up the fabric of their enemies. however, my next guest takes an exception to these ceos. he says they're doing more to enable isis than hurt terrorists. he's attorney keith. he represents victims of the paris and orlando terror attacks. he's suing facebook, google, and twitter. thanks so much for coming on this show. can you explain what you mean by this disconnect that you see between tech ceos and terrorists using their platforms to recruit and organize? >> thank you for having me on your show. my law firm continues to look at this issue very closely, and it just seems that these companies are very quick to
terrorize others and their actions but at the same time they don't look in their own house and see what they can do to better protect the public from isis and other terrorist operations and there seems to be a total inconsistency. liz: we have mark zuckerberg posting on his own facebook page quote like many of you i'm concerned of the impact of the executive order signed by president trump. but we should do that by people that actually pose a threat. keep our doors to refugees and those who need help. that's who we are. what do you think of zuckerberg giving this advice? >> well, i think mr. zuckerberg ought to take his own advice. why can't they do something with facebook along with twitter and google in order to stop isis using their sites? there are a lot of things they can do, for some reason they choose not to take these actions. liz: keith, here's the thing. somehow the social media sites stopped -- and senator dianne feinstein pointed this out.
the social media sites somehow can stop child pornography at the front door. why can't they stop these guys? >> well, one are certain behaviors. we talked about this in the past. they take these sites down, and then they pop right back up, they do it in an obvious way, they reconnect to all the people they were connected to in a way that's easily detectable, but for some reason they choose not to do that. but also these messages, they need to be found by others, otherwise they're ineffective. they can't recruit new people. there are certain words, certain phrases, things that they use just like the child pornographyers use in order to allow people to find them. why can't they use these things as well? . liz: doctor, always great to have you on. >> thank you very much for having me on. look forward to seeing you next time. liz: it's not just democrats. we've got republican senator and congressman now against donald trump. some arguing that jihadees are using this ban to recruit terrorists. however, my next guest argues that if we're worried about that, we have a
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the senate voting on moving forward the nomination of rex tillerson to become secretary of state. now, simple majority vote is required. this tees up an actual confirmation vote for tillerson on wednesday. we're going to stay on the story and keep you updated. next up, we have this story for you. president trump. >> another thing that should have been done, of course, is to alert our friends and allies what we were doing because we would expect them to cooperate because people are leaving from these various places, particularly in europe. so i think the effect will probably in some areas give isis some more propaganda. liz: president trump accusing republican senator john mccain and lindsey graham of trying to quote start world war iii. this after two senators released a joint statement the travel ban a quote self inflicted wound in the fight against terrorism. the president responding
writing quote the joint statement of former presidential candidates mccain and graham are wrong. they're weak in immigration. the two senators should focus their energies on isis. illegal immigration and border security instead of looking to start world war iii. however, other republicans criticize. they include lamar alexander, michael mccall, and bob portman. but my next guest says the idea that we can get terrorists to not terrorize is false. he's a psychologist who's a former air force mesh. he developed and conducted enhanced interrogation techniques for the cia after the 9/11 attacks. he personally interrogated 9/11 mastermind. he's also author of enhanced interrogation, james mitchell, and he joins me now. james, it's always great having you go on the show. now, you say we cannot be afraid to protect ourselves from terror. what do you mean? >> well, the notion that if we were to suddenly open our
borders completely that there wouldn't be any propaganda with that is wrong. i spent years with muhammad. he was part of al-qaeda's propaganda committee. and one of the things he made clear to me and the context of our conversations and recruitment and such is that you can take any event in the world and spin it in such a way that it's negative for muslims or it looks like christians are somehow mistreating muslims. so it really doesn't matter what you do. the problem that we have is that it's the hysteria and the things that are said about that particular executive order that are completely wrong that are going to add propaganda value. not what the actual executive order says. liz: can you explain that? go ahead. >> well, let me give you an -- i'll give you a real life example. let's say we open up our borders and allow everyone from the country that we are bombing in into the world.
the way al-qaeda and isis would spend that is that america is coming in our homeland, they're destroying our homes, and they're luring true muslims into their country is so they can infect them with western democracy, which is antiislamist, and it goes in the face of the karan and the perfect words indeed of muhammad. so you can take anything, the kindest thing you can spin and the notion that somehow getting these people to like us should be the main part of our policy or main consideration for how we go about protecting ourselves is wrong. liz: yeah. >> and i'll expand on that a little bit more if you allow me. liz: yeah, go ahead. >> one of the things muhammad made clear to me is that they're constantly testing our visa procedures to see how they can get people into our country. so this hysteria if they allow that to back off the vetting that we need, if they allow that to allow people into this country who don't have the
proper identification and we can't verify who they are or whether or not they support terrorist organizations, that's what actually increases the probability that al-qaeda and isis will be able to pull off an attack. not making sure that these people are who they say they are. liz: can you stay on this point? i hear what you're saying that we shouldn't exceed or give into this emotional blackmail that's being put on the american people and the trump administration saying, you know, this will be used as recruiting for isis. you're saying that terrorists like khalid muhammad are always testing and trying to find holes in the visa system. can you explain that a little bit more? >> sure. you know, like we see in europe, when you open up your borders, and you allow people in from countries where they don't have proper documentation, a small number of people, but a number of people nonetheless hide amongst legitimate refugees and come over to the country
and engage in terrorist activities. they know this for a fact. they have used -- told me several instances in which he used the un refugee status to move his terrorists in and around different countries. so they are familiar with this process, and they're looking for ways to do it. and appoint that i would make earlier and make again is if the only thing that's keeping moderate muslims in the world from rising up and attacking america is whether or not we're willing to let undocumented people who we can't verify into our country, then we've got a huge problem with the muslim population. but i just don't believe that's true. i think this is political hysteria and that hysteria that they're creating is what's going to end up on the arab streets. not the content of that executive order. liz: james mitchell, you were always terrific. we loved having you go on the show. he is the author of the book enhanced interrogation. i encourage you all to go out and buy it.
he's just fantastic. mr. mitchell, thank you for coming on. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, ma'am. appreciate it. liz: sure. now we've got media outlets firing back at president trump's refugee halt and the immigration ban. the reporting of his executive order is, in fact, a muslim ban. saying it's not. my next guest agrees that it's not. she says this is more media fear mongering. she's the founder of the muslim reform movement. she's author, she's speaking out. don't go away. back in two. what if technology gave us the power to turn this enemy into an ally? microsoft and its partners are using smart traps to capture mosquitoes and sequence their dna to fight disease. there are over 100 million pieces of dna in every sample. with the microsoft cloud, we can analyze the data faster than ever before. if we can detect new viruses before they spread, we may someday prevent outbreaks before they begin.
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>> protests around the country after trump limits entry to the u.s. a very different america. dramatic new moves at the stroke of president trump's pen. >> the president steps to in effect prevent some muslims from entering the country led to dozens of people with permanent resident status being detained at american airports. and mr. trump established a religious test for refugees from those muslim countries. allowing an exception for christians and others from minority religions. liz: well, as you can see media outlets blasting president trump's temporary travel halt in order to improve the vetting procedures. reporting executive order a muslim ban. the president lashing back saying to be quote this is not a muslim ban as the media is falsely reporting. this is not about religion. this is about terror. it's about keeping our country safe. with me now is the cofounder of the muslim reform movement, author of the book standing alone and american woman
struggling for the soul of islam. we also have to point out she was best friends with fellow wall street journalist danny pearl who five years ago was killed around this time by khalid mohammed. did vote for president trump. ostra ,what do you make of how the media is reporting what president trump is doing? >> well, liz, thank you for having me and, you know, if i feel a little bit -- if i seem a little bit distanced right now is because i just want to answer your question, but i want to let you know where my mind is right now. the interview you just had with james mitchell took me back 15 years ago it was actually to this day the free men walked into this compound in a corner of pakistan. and i want you and your viewers to walk into that place with me. they had a bag and in that bag they had a video camera and inside that compound was our colleague dan pearl. one of those men was muhammad
according to all evidence, and he proceeded then to slay danny and the other equipment he had in that bag was a knife. he had studied, he had come to america to study in north carolina. he knew the united states. he knew that danny would be a great symbol of propaganda by al-qaeda. and when he was later interrogated by the fbi, he said that he videotaped danny's murder for propaganda. what we have happening today is a continuation of that kind of cyber jihad. that video was broadcast around the world and today the left putting out this myth that america has put forward a muslim ban is continuing the propaganda of the radicals against america. and i sit before you as an american muslim seeking peace and tolerance and women's rights saying that we cannot
create more messaging for the radicals, and it is the left along with the muslim right that are teaming up to create american hysteria in the world. we have to stop it. and the media needs to not go along with it. and this executive order is not perfect, but it's a necessary step because 15 years later, danny is dead and the idea of radical islamic extremism is alive. liz: thank you for correcting me. it was 15 years ago. you're exactly right. can you explain to me how the left is helping out the muslim right in this country? >> i voted for donald trump but every election since i could vote, i voted for a democratic candidate. i'm a lifelong liberal and, unfortunately, the left in the spirit of tolerance has decided that it would get in
bed with the muslim right. so you know what we saw last night? let me tell you. we saw the center for american progress that is founded by john podesta, the campaign leader for hillary clinton promoting a muslim ban protest. and where was it being promoted? at the courtyard of the islamic center of washington, which is operated and run by the government of saudi arabia where you and i as women cannot even enter through the front door because we are banned from the main hall. and so the left has, unfortunately, gotten in bed with the muslim right in a way that has now made it impossible for us to talk about the realities of the islamic extremism. liz: yeah, and that's the point. the real war on women is in the middle east, in countries like saudi arabia; right? so what are you most worried about with the way the media keeps reporting that this is a
ban on muslims, and it's not. it's a temporary halt to improve vetting. go ahead. final word. >> what they're doing is perpetuating the propaganda of the left and the muslim right. they're continuing to create a hysteria against america. of course we need to be critical thinkers. of course we need to take civil society to pass when we need to do it. but this kind of insurgent sea and rebellion that we have is only going to promote this kind of agitation, and we need to be critical thinkers and have civility and clarity and honesty with islamic extremism so that 15 years from now, liz, you and i are not having the same conversation. we need to fight for peace. liz: i hear what you're saying. the u.s. has a right and donald trump is using his constitutional right as experts said to protect the borders.
>> yes. and we have to keep america safe. liz: all right. thank you so much for coming on the show. really appreciate it. >> thank you, liz. liz: next up, the protests continue. right now democrats about to gather on the steps of the supreme court calling the president's refugee halt unconstitutional. however, my next guest says they are wrong because refugees do not have the same rights as u.s. citizens. he is american center for law and justice. he's justin. he's going to explain after this. liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance company definitely doesn't have that... you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief, try doctor recommended gaviscon. it quickly neutralizes stomach acid
liz were democrat senator elizabeth warren says president obama's executive order temporarily halting the flow refugees is unconstitutional. they are today energy for a protest on the steps of the supreme court. let's take it to jordan sekulow. he says refugees don't have the rights as u.s. citizens. >> there is no right to become a refugee in the united states. the president has the delegated power under the immigration and nationality act that has been in place since the 1950s to set the refugee limits for the year. and they don't have to meet those limits. there is no right to becoming a
refugee in the united states. we want to be a country that welcomes refugees, but we want to do so in a safe way. i have done a lot of refugee cases for people from these places on the list like iran and sudan that need our assistance and legal help, and i'm glad they are look at the executive order and instructed the department of homeland security to look at the program and make sure the process is working forthright people who need refugee status here in the u.s. but the president has power dell gate from the constitution, from legislation and supreme court orders as recently as 2015 when the supreme court said clearly the u.s. government could deny a visa request on national security grounds without any explanation. that was 9-0 at the united states supreme court in 2015.
. liz: the senate voted to advance the nomination of rex tillerson as secretary of state. the final vote expected wednesday. thank you for having us in your home. making money with charles payne is next. charles: i'm charles payne. the white house double down on president trump's executive order after a weekends of backlash and protests. >> you don't know when the next threat or attack is coming. the best thing you can do is get ahead of it. if you wait, you will be reacting. the president is not going to wait. he will do everything in his power when h