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again. is our new time slot will be fridays on fbn at 8 p.m. see you then. ♪ ♪ >> thank you, charles. charles: lou dobbs is the best and he's next. keep it right here on fox business. lou: the trump administration begins purging the left-wing leftovers of the obama administration, and, of course, the deep state as well. white house press cretary sean spicer today acknowledged the trump administration is under attack by an orchestrated effort to subvert the president and his policies. >> well, i think there's no question when have you eight years of one party in office that there are people who continue to espouse the agenda of the previous administration. lou: we'll be talking what needs to be done to quell sedition with the authors of the book what washington gets
wrong, the unelected officials who actually run the government. also here tonight, president trump makes an all-out push for ryan care saying the plan takes into account conservative priorities. >> provides states with flexibility over how medicaid dollars are spent giving power from washington and back to local government, which we all want to see would do a much better job. and the plan empowers individual americans to buy health insurance that is right for them, not forced on them by the government. lou: we'll debate that with fred barnes and former chairman of the republican national lawyers association, randy evans. and rising tensions in east asia. new satellite images showing north korea may be preparing for another nuclear test. and chinese state media issuing more warnings, warning the united states must pay the price for the deployment of the
thad missile system in korea. are we nearing a breaking point? general jack keane is among our guests here tonight. good evening, everybody. there'a furious battle over health care, and president trump is predicting he will win passage of the legislation the conservatives are now criticizing as ryan care or obamacare light. president trump met with a group of house republican committee chairs at the white house. he insisted congress needs to act and act now. >> we must act now to save americans from the imploding obamacare disaster. this is the time we're going to get it done. we're working together. we have some great results. we have tremendous spirit, and i think it's something that's going to happen very shortly. lou: house conservatives are demanding changes. freedom caucus members, congressman dave bratt, congressman jim jordan, among those considering urging
leadership to blow up the senate trulies completely remove obamacare with one bill. >> i'm for doing what needs to be done to make sure that the affordable care act, obamacare, is completely repealed and replaced with something that is going to bring down costs for the families they represent and we all campaigned on that simple message, that basic message. that's what they send us here to do. >> the congressional budget office is expected to weigh in with estimates on costs and the impact of ryan care or obamacare light as soon as monday. joining me to discuss the president's push for ryan care and whether house leadership is listening to their conservative colleagues, the executive editor for the weekly standard, fox news contributor, fred barnes. good to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: this is starting to look like potentially a real confrontation. president seems assured they
have the votes but the conservatives insist, paul ryan does not have the votes. your thoughts? >> well, he has the votes as long as president trump is behind him. you know all the criticism of this particular repeal bill of obamacare, repeal and replace has been against paul ryan, but all these conservatives are scared to death of donald trump, and he's behind it. so i think they're going to be better off, and this notion that somehow you can just repeal all of obamacare and just get rid of it in one swoop is crazy because it will be filibustered in the senate and you won't win. this is a narrower approach using the reconciliation process and you have to meet all these rules in the senate, and it is a left sweeping approach for sure, but it will get there eventually and obamacare will be gone. lou: well, in the house, reconciliation doesn't amount to much.
>> no, no. lou: let me finish. >> okay. lou: the senate can blow up, use the nuclear option, get to straight majorities. there is a peculiar attitude here, and one starts to believe that h street and k street and the business roundtable, wall street, that they have a direct easy pass to paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and that what we're watching form here is something that is utterly misshapen at least within the trvisionf the future. is ia very dangerous moment and should not be undestated whether your name is ryan or whether your name is meadows. >> yeah, look, it's an important moment, no question about that. are you going to get something passed or not that repeals obamacare. lou: let's remember who won the election on november 8th.
it's president trump, the great disrupter talking about draining the swamp. what are we going to do in the speaker saying it's binary? are you kidding me? he's talking to children? he doesn't have a grasp of the issues here, let alone the potential impact of the legislation that he's advocating. >> i think he does. i think you're wrong about that. he wants to get through the house. lou: i don't doubt he wants to get through the house. there's not a single cost estimate in front of us. there is no judgment about what will be the impact on premiums. there is no, i repeat, legislature whatsoever. rushed through ways and means committee, rushed through commerce and energy, i mean come on! this looks like a replay of 2009. you know it does. >> why do you think donald trump is supporting it so vehemently? lou: well, i don't know. do you? >> yes, do i know why. lou: but the issue to me is not
who the hell is supporting this legislation, whether it's the president or whether it's ryan. what will be the impact on the american people? this is supposed to be a populist moment in our history. >> it is. lou: and the people should be at the forefront and their impact and the class and the result is critically important. >> i agree with all of that. lou: okay. >> no question about it, but my questions do youant to get a bill passed or not? lou: i don't want toet a bill passed. i want to improve the lives of american citizens. >> well, they go together. you get a bill passed -- lou: well, we should just pass bills willy-nilly. it apparently doesn't matter what the economic is, doesn't matter what the cost is, it doesn't matter whether it's a superior product to the one that precedes it. come on. we just to get a bill passed? are you kidding me? we know there aren't enough senators to pass this legislationment they don't like it. the margin isn't there. >> that's why you need the
reason that's why you need to do it through the special process, the reconciliation process. it's awkward, but can you do it. democrats can't amount to fill buster in the senate. is that the ideal way to do it? no, at the moment. it's the only way, lou. lou: it may be the only way, but it could be the most costly way, because if this blows up, this would be perhaps, perhaps, a significant, significant blow to the trump administration, and frankly, he is the only one down there right now who counts because he is the man leading the country and to watch paul ryan be absolutely capricious about the impact from the administration, i think is terrible. what do you think? >> i think paul ryan is one of the least capricious people i've ever met. i've known him for 20 years. he's crafted a plan along with the chairman of the two committees.
>> how long have you known bill kristol for crying out loud. how long have you known bill kristol? >> 20 years. lou: i think you take my point. fred, we're out of time. thanks for being here. >> always a pleasure, lou. lou: we're coming right back with more. stay with us. vice president mike pence says the end of obamacare is near. >> we're open and talking about ways we can improve that bill and ultimately buy likely additional legislation, will get us to a point before we get to the spring where obamacare will be gone. lou: we take that up with leading republican randy evans here next. and new satellite images show north korea preparing for yet another nuclear test. yet another nuclear test. how will the trump i'll never find a safe used car.
. lou: attorney general sessions today asking for the resignations of 46 u.s. attorneys. they were appointed during the obama administration. the department of justice says this is common practice during presidential transitions and the attorney general himself was forced to resign as alabama attorney general after president clinton as u.s. attorney in alabama after president clinton took office. joining me now to discuss the
trump administration's efforts to purge the deep state, the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. rnc national committee man, former chair of the republican lawyers association. randy evans. good to have you. >> good to be here. lou: dianne feinstein howling about the it's never happened, you would think, based on her rather political view and exclamations. what say you? randy: how quickly they forget president obama basically eliminating and starting the process of creating this deep state, a deep state so deep that it insists on continuing even into the new administration. we've had the replacement of u.s. attorneys for every president who's come along, sometimes quite controversial, but nothing new, and i'm actually ecstatic that general sessions took that step, i wish
he would take it sooner but he couldn't because they held up his confirmation so th could hang around a little lge lou: and the justice department assuring that professional staff and officials will be handling investigations of prosecutions throughout until the replacements for these 46 are in place. given how slowly the process is going both in terms of nomination and confirmation, that could be sometime, couldn't it? randy: it could. i call it bureaucratic purgatory, which is literally, you don't have the old people, you don't have the new people, but you have the career people who have been there for eight years, ten years while president obama was the president. they are deeply committed to their own agenda. deeply opposed to president trump. they're going fight him at every step of the way and good illustration to that was sally yates, willing to supplant her authority for that of her boss, the president of the united
states. lou: and falling into the position of number two at the department of justice during the important executive order battle which he refused to enforce. let's go to the issue of trade, we're getting reports that the white house, there is a division over trade, multilateralism, that is instead of the president's preferred bilateral negotiation of a trade agreement, whether it be the renegotiation or the abandonment altogether of nafta, whatever it may be. thers a real fight between the establishment typewith the administration, and peter navarro, the economist, and steve bannon who is the chief strategist for the president. randy: lou, you put your finger on an inherent fracture that is inevitably going to come about with regard to the republican party in deciding who it is. is it the people who put donald trump in as president or is it
the establishment? free trade versus fair trade is going to be one of the issues, inherently the establishment is free trade even if it costs america jobs, drained our economy, caused trade deficits and you have a president who says enough already, enough of always being on the short end of the stick. we need fair trade. lou: randy, this is the essential issue, it's a defining issue for donald trump. randy: it is. lou: it is what made so many millions of americans turn to him along with the rest of his agenda, certainly, but to abandon what he has campaigned on his trade to let the gary cohns, the establishment types, their ilk if you will, they represent the tired and the actually the defeated establishment intellectualy.
globalism is in retreat everywhere, and this president bears great credit for leading the charge and changing the direction of this country. i just don't see how he could entertain the possibility of abandoning this great make america first, hire american, buy american, are you kidding me? this is a renaissance. we're at the eve of that renaissance and it is a trump renaissance so long as he follows through on these policies. don't you agree? randy: lou, i totally agree with you. does anyone seriously believe we would have one the brexit stat, hathere not been a fundamental shift to say enough of putting america equal thverybody, let's put america first for a change. let's have trade deals that focus on protecting our economy, our jobs and our people. lou: we voted on that. we voted on that.
we voted on that. why, then, is there a fissure within the white house and the appearance that the president himself would be entertaining putting -- giving primacy to gary cohn or the national economic council over his own, his own architects of his strategy that he carried to the american people? i mean, he's been talking about this for years. randy: well, virtually a large part of the white house is populated with the old establishment. lou: who's fault is that and how do you get them out of, there randy? get on washington and get that thing straightened out. randy: i think the president will do it for us. this president is going to say you're either with me or mind a new job. lou: i'll just tell you this way. if, if the gary cohns of the world prevail in the white
house, it will be one of the soriest days in american presidential history. randy: i've got to say this to you. lou: real quick. randy: they will not prevail. donald trump will prevail and his agenda will carry the day. lou: you're not suggesting the establishment reporting on these issues is perhaps askew? randy, i've got to go. randy: you mean to say --. >> i get the last word this time, just this one night. randy: thank you. lou: randy evans. great to have you here. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. the question is -- it sure sounds like it, doesn't it? that was a little editorial. follow me on twitter, "like" me on facebook, follow me on instagram at "lou dobbs tonight." protests erupting in south korea after the country'first woman president was forced out offfice. south korea's constitutional
court upheld a parliamentary vote to impeach president over allegations of cronyism and corruption. two were killed in clashes between protesters and law enforcement in the capital city of seoul. and new satellite images show north korea could be preparing for what would be its sixth nuclear test. researchers at johns hopkins university this week witnessing the troubling movement of equipment and supplies at the rogue nation's main nuclear test sight. and there you see that imagery. on wall street today, stocks close higher after strong jobs report. the dow up 45 points, the s&p up 8, the nasdaq up 23. volume on the big board, 3.4 billion shares. for the week, the dow, s&p and nasdaq all posting losses under 1%. crude oil plunged 9% this week settling below $49 a barrel. a reminder to listen to my
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came donald trump. on election day silver gave trump a 29% chance of winning. now he has been taking a deep look within. his latest article, entitled, there really was a liberal media bubble. yes, nate. there certainly was. silver just now waking up to the bias. of course, that bubble also extended to the 538's owner of
espn who leads disney. he wrote there is a feeling among many staffers both liberal and conservative that the company's perceived move left ward has had a stifling effect on discourse inside the company. consumers have sensed that same left ward movement, alienating some. the word should not be some, but many. the sports network lost about 12 million subscriber since 2011. you would think disney would look at espnen see sports and money, their audience. instead they seem to see only another platform on which to publish their left-wing drifl. -drifl.
-- drivel. it has been inseason waited into espnd it has been insinuated into the athletes and the sports they cover. pour quotation of the evening, this one on audiences from nate silver. disney honchos should listen to silver because this is what i said. i prefer more to kind of show people different thing than tell them, oh, here is what you should believe. and over time you can build up rapport with your audience. there you go. not so hard, is it. now the question is. does the management have the judgment that again using that time wisely.
we are coming right back. stay with us. there is no doubt about it the economy and markets are soaring under president trump. >> we have seen more optimism in the ceo community in the first 50 days than we have seen in a long time. lou: we take that up with steve forbes next. hold on tight for this extreme kayaking adventure. kayaking adventure. the video and much more straigha spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have a sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away.
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lou: the trump economy. more good news for american workers, consumers, everybody. the economy adding 235,000 jobs last month, unemployment dropping to 4.7%. the labor force participation rate rising to 63%. 340,000 more americans joined the workforce as that unemployment rate declined. wages also rising up 2.8% from a year ago. starbucks's plan to hire 10,000 refugees is hurting its brand. shares of the company down 2.5% since starbucks announced the
plan after president trump's original extreme vetting plan was announced. forbes media editor-in-chief steve forbes. hallelujah. we are watching the market add $3 trillion, we are watching jobs be created. these president can claim these jobs because he was work for two months before he took the oath of office. steve: the number that didn't get any attention was the household survey. calling people and saying are you working. that's a very volatile month by month. but it's a better gauge of new business and job creation. that went up 447,000 after a long series of disappointing results. if that continues in that way, that is huge. lou: it is huge and this is where we both have to acknowledge it was one month,
but what a moisture was. what we are seeing in the markets guiding us toward that outcome 6-12 months out, we hope. steve: this is where the tax i shall pew becomes important. lou: we are suppose to be talking about repealing and replacing obamacare. don't you know that's the most important thing? steve: well, they are going to get the tax thing done whether mcconnell likes it or not. lou: i are hope you are right. -- i hope you are right. we are having to watch paul ryan tell us how it is, that there is a bitheiriv -- a binary choice. and mitch mcconnell declaring there will be no tax cut until summer. what the heck is going on? >> i don't mind summer if they make it retroactive to january 1.
lou: i understand why you are saying that. but we have a president who's proactive. we don't need retroactive. steve: i agree with you on the precedence of tax cuts. lou: he put these ghiets winner's circle, now they are telling him hoist is. steve: a good piece of news on healthcare. trump announced the appoints of a new fda director, scott gottleib is a true expert on speeding up the approval of drugs and reforming that agency. that will fundamentally make a positive change for american medicine. lou: a report in the highly establishment financial times. economist peter navarro and the president's chief strategist steve bannon against gary cuhn.
and he's leading this idea that suddenly there is going to be multilateral trade agreements. did he pay any attention to the president? did he understand how he got this job and who put him there? steve: one of the things president trump likes to do is keep people off balance and pit them against each other. tpp gone. negotiations are going to start with japan. so the agenda is moving forward. the key thing is we have to kick some butt responsible capitol hill. and get a tax cut. lou: you know what that good religion border tax adjust can, would you like that? >> it's c minus.
better than f. 237. lou: at bits's a d minus. -- at best it's a d minus. steve: he will make it happen. them realize if they don't succeed next year in the elections. lou: you just sa thewould. steve: they know if they don't, they are going to be looking for -- lou: mitch mcconnell will accept advice from steve forbes. steve: if he doesn't do it, he will be here as a fox news contributor. lou: who needs a river to kayak? these adventurers in british colombia racing down a drainage
ditch racing speeds of 90 miles an hour. that's the most beautiful drainingage ditch i have ever seen. you have got to admire the kayaking. fit weren't for the speed at which you have to travel, it would be perfect for me. china issuing new threats to the use the. north korea preparing another nuclear test. what should the trump administration do? how will it respond? general jack keane joins me next with the answers to those questions and more. stay with us.
lou: the united states working with local syrian grounds forces poised to begin the assault on the islam tick state stronged hold of raqqa. the white house pressed on the decision to send 400 of our marines to syria and the role james mattis is playing in that mission. >> one of the things the president insured is the commanders have the flexibility
to do what they need to fulfill the mission. the president is obviously as commander-in-chief knead aware and signs off on all those missions. but at the end of the day it will be up to the generals to execute their mission to make sure we continue to defeat isis and protect the nation. lou: general mattis butting heads with the trump administration over his staff. mattis wants the top civilian job to go to tan patterson. she is a one-time prominent supporter of the muslim brotherhood, an organization trump may designate as a terrorist organization. joining us general jack keane. let's start first with north korea.
it looks to be insistent upon provoking the west certainly the united states with the nuclear test, more ballistic missiles have been launched. your judgment? jack: we are on a collision course with north korea. we cannot poll rate that move and that's going to result in us either having to do a cyber attack to defeat them and/or a kinetic air and cruise missile strike to defeat these launch facilities. that lab preemptive strike. we have to communicate this clearly to the chinese that you are leaving us with no option but a military option as you are permitting your client state to move towards a threatening situation to the american
people. and that's the course we are currently on. lou: the specific policy reiterated by the pentagon. the response the united states will be as they put sit overwhelming if north korea were to attack south korea or of any our allies in the region. jack: if we conducting preemtristrike the north koreans would conduct a rocket and artillery attack on seoul or conduct an all-out invasion. both of those things, nobody wants that. the chinese, and t south koreans and the north koreans dot want that because they will be defeated and lose their regime. but we are on a collision course with the north koreans. and the only people that will
get them off that course is china. we have to impress on china we are dead serious. tour previous presidents have never been able to impact china. i'm thinking this president may impact china for the first time. lou: that's encouraging but china as you point out has not been a partner no matter how much they try to project themselves as that. core there are rising to the level of a nuclear state with missile systems capable of delivering at least to 600 miles and the suspicion is muc so what will happen here with china? the engagement if it came to a conflict with north korea would involve china, would it not? >> it would be devastating what would eventually take place with a war of that scale in high population centers. something nobody certainly wants.
i believe this administration will take a road with china our previous administration did not. china has been trampling on u.s. interests and our allies for 8 years. they have been expanding militarily as we note on the show many times. i believe this administration will push back on china's military expansion in the south china sea and develop a different relationship with china. we are also willing to confront them when they are trampling on our interests. and that will be different than what the chinese are used to. lou: general james mattis has come into confrontation apparently with the white house on the issue of who will be the top civilian. his defense department rejected by the white house. anne patter son, another
prominent supporter of ousted egyptian president mohammad morsi and the muslim brotherhood. the general putting hereford. this is met with a chilly reception by the white house. what is going on between the general, the muslim brotherhood and these names he's advancing to be his top civilian deputy? jack: i know jim mattis web's a good man. but the reality is having worked with four administrations, one thing they all have in common republican or democrat is they want their own political appointees in these positions to execute the agenda of the president of the united states. and they have a right to do that. that's the reality here. that's where we'll likely wind up. the president who put people in
the department of defense who will accomplish his agenda. lou: general jack keane, as always, great to see you. thank you for your analysis and insight. thank you. new calls to purge saboteurs from the trump administration. what gets wrong and the unelected officials who actually run the government. run the government. stay with us, , , , ,
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lou: in our online poll we asked you do you think speaker ryan is purposely dividing the gop by proposing a bill with budget busting subsidies and 72% said yes. my next guest has worked to expose the deep state. the co-authors of this book, "what washington gets wrong." the unelected official hospital actually run the government and their misconceptions about the
american people. jennifer, you -- you surveyed national agencies with startling results. 73% of government officials says the government knows little about programs to help the poor. 71% of federal officials says the public knows little about science. 6 in 10 think the public knows little about childcare policy. they don't have a high opinion of the rest of us. >> that's true in some respects. but one of our most interesting findings is government officials often think their views on policy matters are far different from the american people than they are in reality. we call this in the book false uniqueness. 75% of government official
think they disagree with americans on issues but the number is only 12%. lou: these are the people running the government for the elected officials who take control of the government every four years or retain control of it. tell us how much this deep state preserves control and how powerful is their influence on our lives. >> the vision of government we take away from high school and college is false. the government is not run by the president, not run by congress. the president and congress interfere superficially, but the government of the united states on a day-to-day basis is one by enormous bureaucracies and and a constellation of think tanks and lobbyists. and they march to their own agenda.
we compared the regulatory and rule making agenda to public opinion and congress's agenda. the agencies march according to their own drummers. they will bow to the president and congress briefly. but generally speaking. when the agency issues their thousands of rules and regulations every year, they do so on the basis of what they think should be done. lou: this book you two coauthored makes it clear why we need to drain the swamp, folks and i recommend it to you highly. overall, the view of the bureaucracy, the permanent government, the deep state, is indeed, is it not, closer to left-wg ideology than right wing. is that fair, jennifer? >> we certainly find there is a divide between the people who
really run the government and the people. we offer several proposals we think can break the divide. lou: i asked about the ideology of the prime minister in the government. we need to know who these people are if they are going to run our government in perpetuity without disruption. >> on average they are left of center. but i'm sure it varies by administration. lou: i thought you said administrations don't make much difference. benjamin you get the last word. >> they tend to be more democratic than republican. but i think interestingly enough, they are all over the map. what's clear about them is they like being in charge. they only talk to one another. they have contempt for americans and they have disdain for congress and usually for the president as well. this isn't my vision of government by the people.
lou: thank you. both have agreed to come back and have a longer discussion about the deep state that they have reported and written about in their important book "what the deep state gets wrong." >> announcer: the new "wall street week." maria: welcome to "wall street week," the show that analyzes the week that was and position you for the week ahead. i'm maria bartiromo. tony robbins will join us in just a bit. but first it was a busy week from main street to k street to wall street. the big event was the jobs number friday. the u.s. economy added 235,000 new jo in the month of february. the unemployment rate kicked down to 4.7%. it lks