tv The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan FOX Business March 17, 2017 2:00pm-3:01pm EDT
here we are waiting on the prime minister. as we do so, i want to go to blake burman inside that press conference which is taking a little longer than expected, unusual for a german chancellor, i would point out. [laughter] >> reporter: i was expecting to talk to you after this whole thing was with regard up. here we are some 40 minutes still waiting for it to begin. it has been a busy day already between these two, president trump and the german chancellor, angela merkel. there was this morning a working session between the two with ceos from both germany and the united states dealing with apprenticeships and vocational programs. the two have also had a meeting together, the president and chancellor merkel, a bilateral meeting between the two. then there is this press conference that should happen momentarily, we believe, and after that the two will have a working luncheon. as it gets to the two of them sitting down and talking with each other, administration officials were telling us in the leadup to in that there were a whole lot of issues that would come in hand. just to rattle off a few, nato, how to deal with vladimir putin, the strength of the european
union and, of course, immigration. as you know, president trump and chancellor merkel are polar opposites on that issue. as it relates to here inside the east room of the white house as we await these two, keep in mind that this is a press conference, so if tradition holds here in the early months of the trump administration, we do expect some questions from both american media, german media, and that could open up the door for a whole other host of issues, among them the president's travel ban, how that's been put on hold, the claims about wiretapping, where that stands, what his feelings are at this moment amongst a whole slew of others, trish. we i wait here in the -- await here in the east room of the white house. trish all right, blake we areman, thank you. joining he for his thoughts and whether or not we can see germany and the u.s. get along here is the former leader of the u.k., thy gel farage. good to have you -- nigel farage. good to have you at a very important time. angela merkel and donald trump,
let me just say, they don't really see eye to eye when it comes to the whole refugee/migrant eshoo. how do you anticipate they're going to deal with that and talk over his travel ban? >> well, we got the latest refugee figures yesterday showing another 1.2 million people came into the european union last year, and 60% of them applied to go to germany. so i think the world views of trump and merkel are completely opposite on the question of refugees, on the question of super-national structures because mrs. merkel is a great believer in the european union. donald trump believes emanation state. but i guess the really big issue here is nato because the germans want america to keep picking up the tab for nato and to protect them, but they're not prepared to pay the membership fee. currently, germany only pays 1.2% of their gdp into defense but expects america to pick up the tab. and i'm guessing that donald trump is going to say to her,
you simply cannot have your cake and eat it. it's time germany stepped up to the plate. trish: well, they're supposed to be contributing 2% of gdp, those are the rules. >> yep. trish: we have to make up the difference. it doesn't really seem father, especially when you look -- seem fair especially when you look at a big economy like germany. they can certainly afford it, nigel. >> well, one of the main reasons they can, of course, is because of the euro. all these mediterranean countries like italy, greece, spain, none of them should ever have joined the euro, and the effect of it is it's given germany a very cheap currency which is why their exports have been as successful as they have. so if any country in europe can afford 2% to spend on defense, it is the germans. trish: and what is going to be her argument? how do you get around not paying what the rule requires you to pay? >> well, i worry here, you see, because what mrs. merkel is buy into the is concept of a european army.
and mr. yunger has been running around europe saying, oh, there's no need to pay 2%, just pay 1%, we'll club together and have economies of scale, and i worry about that because i don't think we can have two military structures operating side by side. i fear that there are some in the european union who now have the ambition along with their own foreign policy of having their own military wing. and when you think that the e.u.'s oil is continual -- policy is continual eastward expansion, you know, they want the ukraine to join the european union, i worry that a european union, if it does break away from nato, is potentially on a conflict course with putin. trish: okay, all right, so that's where perhaps we want to get a little her involved. but, you know, you look at europe as a whole right now, you look at what happened in your own country, for example, and there is this increasing
movement that's very nationalistic. in other words, countries are looking around and saying, you know, this really isn't fair. you know, the if i'm working hard in italy, why do i have to pay for the greeks? and it looks like some of the folks are coming out there. we're going to see an eye on that to see if we see merkel and the president. but in other words, it doesn't feel fair if you're one country needing to subsidize another, so this is part of the reason why it's unraveling. and wouldn't you say the economic consequences of this integration are a big part of the u.k. saying we don't want any part of it? >> well, i think, you know, the cleverest thing the u.k. did was not to join the euro despite the fact many of our leading politicians thought we should. the e.u. have made a couple of fundamental mistakes. the first was allowing the mediterranean to join the eurozone. the second was to expand and to bring in countries like romania and bulgaria who, frankly, had not made the transition to being full western democracies. and the third mistake was
principally angela merkel's mistake, and it was to say as many of you as want to come to europe, please do, because we can accommodate you. and that is now leading to really bad blood between countries like hungary and germany, because the germans are saying, look, you must take your quota, and the hungarians are saying, no, we won't. whichever way you look at this, there is a rise of nationalism, as you call it, or nationism, as i call it. people want to live in their own nation-states, elect their own governments, make their own laws, control their own borders. people want normality, and i personally believe that the days of the european union are numbered. trish: you know, i'm with you. i've kind of thought that from the very beginning. i never entirely understood why they were going with this experiment to begin with. so much of this is economic-based. a lot of people would say, well, you know, these countries are prejudiced. they don't want these refugees from muslim countries coming in. i don't think it's that, nigel, i think it really is economic. and security.
economic in that these countries cannot afford to take on all of these people and really just grow the welfare state. >> well, now, so we also yesterday got the figures for the german bill last year for looking after the refugees that had come in in the previous 18 months. 22 billion euros was what it cost the german taxpayer last year to look after asylum-seeker ors, straight refugees. and given there's now a massive diplomatic row with turkey and the summer months are coming, i would anticipate the numbers coming to europe being as big if not bigger than last year. and ultimately, you know, a hard working, tax-paying family in any country in europe, frankly, in any country in the world begins to say what about us? trish: uh-huh. what's the takeaway, speaking about us, for us right here in the united states? when we see whats has unfolded there in europe, when we seeapps immigration policies, how should
we be thinking about that, nigel? >> well, very simple. the you see what's happened in swedish cities or you see what large districts of brussels have now become, i think america can still save itself. it can save itself by having a really strong, tough immigration policy with good vetting, and that is the ticket that donald j. trump was elected on. and i know that the judiciary and many others are trying to stop him, but i'm convinced that this president believes in what he's doing, he will deliver, and you can make yourself a much safer country than hutch of the rest of europe -- than much of the rest of europe. i do understand, you know, that there are people displaced by war having a miserable time. but i also understand that when isis say they will use the migrant crisis across the mediterranean to flood europe with their own jihadists, that we have to take them seriously. trish: what do you anticipate we're going to hear moments from now? we can see, you know, members of the cabinet walking out, his
daughter, ivanka trump, walking out. we just saw steve bannon. what do you think we will hear from president trump? >> what you're going to hear there president trump is we've had a very cordial meeting, there are some outstanding issues meaning they can't really agree on anything. [laughter] that's hi prediction. trish: and that's going to come down the money, right? the nato issue, in your view. >> well, i think the nato issue is the big one. as i say, america can't keep -- shouldn't go on paying the whole of the bill. but also, you know, the underbelly of this is there are some -- and i don't think merkel's one of them, but there are some in the european union who actually want a separate european army, and i genuinely do not think that's a good thing. trish: nigel, do you think merkel laughs? >> i've met her many times, i've had lunch with mrs. merkel. i had to say she looked like she was sucking a lemon throughout the whole event. [laughter] mrs. merkel in private -- trish: you're toug >> -- is no llier than she appears in public. trish: oh, dear.
all right. but you did have lunch, you spoke about something even if she wasn't necessarily happy about it. tell us -- well, you know what, here she is. they're coming out right now. >> they're coming out. trish: the president as well, so let's listen in. thankthank you, nigel. [background sounds] >> chancellor merkel, it is a great honor to welcome you to the people's house, the white house. our two nations share much in common including our desire for security, prosperity and peace. we just concluded a productive meeting with the german and american companies to discuss work force development and vocational training. very important words. germany has done an incredible job training the employees and future employees and employing
its manufacturing and industrial work force. it's crucial that we provide our american workers with a really great employment outlook, and that includes making sure that we harness the full potential of women in our economy. my administration is in the process of rebuilding the american industrial base. a stronger america is this the interest -- is in the interest, believe me, of the world as a whole. i reiterated to chancellor merkel my strong support for nato as well as the need for our nato allies to pay their fair share for the cost of defense. many nations eau vast sums -- owe vast sums of money from past
years, and it is very unfair to the united states. these nations must pay what they owe. during our meeting i thanked chancellor merkel for the german government's commitment to increase defense spending and work toward contributing at least 2% of gdp. i want to the thank the chancellor for her leadership in supporting nato and its efforts in afghanistan. this has come at significant cost including the lives of over 50 german soldiers whose sacrifice we greatly honor. i also appreciate chancellor merkel's leadership along with the french president to resolve the conflict in ukraine where we ideally seek a peaceful solution. most importantly, our two
countries must continue to work together to protect our people from radical islamic terrorism and to defeat isis. i applaud chancellor merkel for germany's contributions both civilian and military as a counter-isis coalition member. we also recognize that immigration security is national security. we must recollect our citizens -- protect our citizens from those who seek to spread terrorism, extremism and violence inside our borders. immigration is a privilege, not a right. and the safety of our citizens must always come first, without question. over lunch the chancellor and i will talk about our economic partnership. we must work together towards fair and reciprocal trade
policies that benefit both of our peoples. millions of hard working u.s. citizens have been left behind by international commerce, and together we can shape a future where all of our citizens have a path to financial security. the united states will respect historic institutions, and we will also recognize the right of free people to manage their own destiny. the close friendship between america and germany is built on our shared values. we cherish individual rights, we uphold the rule of law, and we seek peace among nations. our alliance is a symbol of strength and cooperation to the world. it is the foundation of a very, very hopeful future. thank you.
[speaking german] privilege to be here today in the white house together with president donald trump and have a first, perm, one-on-one meeting -- personal, one-on-one meeting and exchange of views. i've always said it's much, much better to talk to one another and not about one another, and i think our conversation proved this. we talked about the international situation, we talked about also apprenticeship programs, met with ceos and apprentices around a round table as regards the shared interests we have. let me look back into the past. we, the germans, owe a lot to the united states of america particularly as regards the economic rise of germany.
this was primarily due to the help through the marshall plan. we were also able to regain german unity after decades of the united states standing up for this together with other allies, and the standing by our side during the period of the cold war. and we are very gratified to know that today we can live this peace and freedom as a unified country due to that. so i was gratified to know that the president had outlined how important he thinks nato is. nato is of prime importance to us, and it was not without very good reason that we said during our summit meeting in wales that also germany needs to increase its expenditure. we committed to this 2% goal until 2024. last year we increased our defense spending by 8%, and we're going to work together again and again on this. and we said that, obviously,
defense and security has a lot of different assets and facets to it. on the one hand, it's supporting missions in africa, for example, it's also promoting development assistance, but it's also helping missions in africa, for example, in trying to stand up for their own safety and security. we continue to be in conversation about what's important for us today. we were able to talk about afghanistan and talk about what, as the president quite rightly said, the continuing mission of germany in afghanistan. i am very glad that the united states are intending to continue to commit to the afghan higgs as well. together -- mission as well. together we fight against islamist terrorism. germany is going to step up its work and is going to continue its work in afghanistan and also in syria. we're going to monitor the situation there very closely, we're going to work on political solutions in syria but also in libya, what we talked about. i am very gratified to know that
the american administration and also the president personally commit themselves to the mining process. we need to come to a solution of this problem. there has to be a safe and secure solution for ukraine, but the relationship with russia has to be improved as well once the siation there on the ground is clarified. minsk is a good basis, but unfortunately, we haven't de the headway that we want to. we are going to work together with our experts to come together in this issue. i am also here in my capacity as the g20 president, you know we will be hosting this year, and i'm very pleased that the president has committed to attending this summit. we're going to talk at some length over lunch about the issues, and we say this has -- trade has to be rendered fairer, there has to be a win/win situation. we can talk about the details of that.
we've already seen today when we had an exchange with our ceos and also with our apprentices what sort of potential we can tap, what sort of potential our two economies have. it's very moving to see particularly heating with these young people what sort of work towards the future is being done by our companies. so marley in this period when we're transiting from traditional manufacturing to industry-forward capacity building skills are so important. incidentally, not only for young people, but also for those who maybe have lost their jobs and need to be reskilled in order to find a job again. and that is an issue i know is very important for you here in the united states, but it's also important for us in germany. so i can say there are a number of issues where we will continue to cooperate very closely on the level of experts but also on our level. we had a very good first exchange of views, so i'm very much looking forward to the talks we will have over lunch. thank you. >> thank you very much. we'll do a couple of questions.
mark halperin. >> mr. president, thank you. a lot of americans -- [inaudible] like eight years ago -- [inaudible] so i wondered -- [inaudible] what's nonnegotiable. talked about saying no one could deny health insurance if they -- >> the gentleman needs to use a microphone. >> [inaudible] president trump's got a different style than most recent past presidents. i'm wondering what you think of that style, do you think it's good for the world or -- [inaudible] thank you both. >> thank you, mark. we just have a really wonderful group of people meeting later. we met with 12 pretty much nos in congress, you saw that a little while ago, and they went from all nos to all yess, and we have a lot of yess coming in.
we're going to have great health care, it's going to be passed, i believe, i think substantially and pretty quickly. it's coming together beautifully. you have the conservative groups, you have other groups, everybody wants certain things. in the end, we're going to have a great health care plan. now, i have to tell you that obamacare's a disaster. it's failing. i was in tennessee, we had a tremendous crowd the other night. and they have half of the state is uncovered. the insurance companies have left, and the other half has one insurance company, and that'll probably be bailing out pretty soon also. they'll have nobody. many states have one, and you have a lot of places now where they'll have none. obamacare will fail. it will fold. it will close up very, very soon if something isn't done. i've often said politically the best thing i can do is absolutely nothing, wait one year, and then even the democrats will come say, please, please, you've got to help us. but it's not the right thing to do for the people. we have a great plan, we have a
plan that's getting more and more popular with the republican base, with the conservative base and with people generally. the press has covered it very inaccurately. people are truly covered well, and i think it's going to be something that's going to be a model to have looked upon -- to be looked upon. >> [inaudible] >> i'll tell you after we're finished. [laughter] >> thank you very much. >> translator: well, i'm here as the chancellor of the federal republic of germany, i represent german interests, i speak with the president of the united states who, well, stands up for -- as is right -- american interests. that is our task respectively, and i hues say that i was very gratified to though the very warm and gracious hospitality with which i've been received here. we held a conversation while we were trying to address also those areas where we disagree
but try to bring people together, try to show what is our vantage point, what is the american vantageoint and then try to find a mpromise which is good for both sides, because we need to be fair with each other. each and every one is expecting from his or her leader that something good comes out of it for their own people. for germany i can say, well, people are different. people have different abilities, have different characteristics, traits of character, have different origins, have found their way into politics along different pathways, and that is diversity, which is good. sometimes it's difficult to find compromises, but that's what we've been elected for. the if everything just went like that without problem, we didn't need politicians to do these jobs. [speaking german] >> translator: the german press agency. madam chancellor, given the experience of the gdr, you are always saying that you are so confident that walls can fall be also. how dangerous do you think this
isolationists policy of the u.s. president is? what was the import -- [inaudible] that he plans and also the fact that he doesn't think the e.u., doesn't deal with the e.u. in a very respectful way in and then, mr. president, america first, don't you think that this is going to weaken also the your even union? and why are you so -- european union? and why are you so scared of diversity in the news and the media that you speak so often of fake news and that things, after all, in the end cannot be proven? for example, the fact that you have been wiretapped by mr. obama? >> have -- go first? ooh. nice friendly reporter. [laughter] i don't believe in isolationists policy, but i believe it should be fair policy, and i think the united states has been treated very, very unfairly by many countries over the year, and that's going to stop. i'm not an isolationist, and our free trade has led to a lot of bad things happening.
you look at the deficits that we have, and you look at all of the accumulation of debt, we're a very powerful company -- country, we're a very strong, very strong country. we'll soon be at a level that we perhaps have never been before. our military is going to be strengthened, it's been depleted. but i am a trader, i am a fair trader, i am a trader that wants to see good for everybody worldwide. but am not an isolationist by any stretch of the imagination, so i don't know what newspaper you're reading, but i guess that would be another example of, as you say, fake news. [speaking german] >> translator: well, allow me, if i may, to put it in the following terms: we haven't yet had time to talk at great length about economic issues, but i would say that the success of
germany in the economic area but also on security and peace, that the success of germans have always been one where the german success is one side of the own coin, and the coin has been european unity and european integration. that's something of which i'm deeply convinced. and i'm not only saying this back home, i'm saying this here, i'm saying it in the united states and also here in washington in my talks with the president. secondly, i believe that globalization ought to be shaped in an open minded way but also in a very fair way. freedom of movement within the european union, for example, is a very important element of our economic progress, of peace. has been for many, many decades. the european countries for many, many centuries waged wars against each other: we have to protect our external borders, because -- and there we have to work on the basis of mutual interest with our neighbors.
highuation, immigration -- migration, immigration, integration has to be worked on, obviously. traffickers have to be stopped, but this has to be done while looking at the refugees as well, giving them opportunities to shape their own lives where they are. help countries who right now are not in an ability to do so. sometimes because they have civil war. i think that's theight way of going about it, and this is, obviously, what we have an exchange of views about. but my position is the one that i've just set out for you. >> i might add that we have many plants and factories coming back into the united states, many jobs are coming back to michigan, to ohio, to pennsylvania, to a lot of places where they were losing jobs, and we will have a different policy. but it's going to be a great policy for not only the united states, but a great policy worldwide. and i look very much forward to it.
kevin -- [inaudible] >> yes, mr. president. [inaudible] what exactly, sir, do you think -- [inaudible] what areas of common ground do you think -- [inaudible] and then for chancellor merkel, what do you view as -- [inaudible] >> well, kevin, i think we have a very unified republican party. after all, we have the presidency, we have the house, we have the senate. and we're getting along very well, i will tell you. and if you were at the meeting that i just attended where we took 12 nos or semi-nos -- no yess -- and within a short period of time, everybody was
very much onboard. and a commitment to vote yes. i think we have a very unified party. i think actually more unified than even the election. you see when they talk about me, i seem to be very popular at least this week within the party. because we have our highest numbers, the highest numbers that i've ever had in the party. so i think there's a great unification. health care's a very, very difficult subject, it's a very complex subject, and it's a subject that, you know, goes both ways. you do something for one side, and the other side doesn't like it. but it's really something that's come together very well, and i think it's going to be very, very popular, extremely popular. on trade with germany, i think we're going to do fantastically well. right now i would say that the negotiators for germany have done a far better job than the negotiators for the united states. but hopefully we can even it out. we don't want victory, we want fairness. all i want is fairness. germany's done very well in its
trade deals with the united states, and i give them credit for it. but -- and i can speak to many other countries. i mean, you look at china, you look at virtually any country that we do business with, it's not exactly what you call good for our workers. i mean, you look at the horrible nafta transaction. nafta has been a disaster for the united states. it's been a disaster for companies, and in particular it's been a disaster for the workers. a lot of the companies just moved. but e rkerarscrewed,nd it's probably the reason i'm standing here, maybe number one. maybe that and the military, building up our military, which we will do, and we will be stronger than ever before and, hopefully, not have to use it. but we will be stronger and perhaps far stronger than ever before. but it's probably the reason i'm here, is when you talk about trade. so i think that we are going to be a very different country. i think we're going to be, we're
going to have great values. but in terms of our military, it's going to be much stronger, and our trade deals are going to be good, solid deals. not deals that lead to closing plants and tremendous unemployment. okay? thank you. ma'am. [speaking german] >> translator: when we speak about trade agreements and the european union is negotiating those agreements for all of the member states of the european union but, obviously, there's also input by the member states. they bring to the table what's important to them. we have underlined as german industry, german business community and have made the experience that any kind of agreement that we have concluded, for example, at the very latest with south korea brought us more jobs, actually. people were very much concerned about losing jobs, for example, the automotive industry. but in the end it turned out, particularly as regards to south korea, but in the end it turned
out both sides benefited. and i think that's only fair. that's the purpose of concluding agreements, that both sides win. and that is the sort of spirit, i think, in which we ought to be guided in negotiating any agreement between the united states of america and the e.u. i hope that we can resume the agreement that we started, we have just now concluded our agreement with an da, and i hope that -- with canada, and i hope we will come back to the table and talk about the agreement between the e.u. and the u.s. again. >> [speaking german] >> translator: madam chancellor, today we're talking about trade. the president in the past always said that he doesn't like mull the city lateral trade agreements, but prefers bilateral trade agreements. do you think from the e.u.'s point of view ttip is a bilateral agreement with washington on one side, the e.u. on the other side?
thousand is the problem that america, the president of the united states and the europeans have a basically different understanding of what the e.u. is all about? that's my question addressed to you. and, mr. president, my question addressed to you, if i may -- >> rejected white house claims is that the alleged wiretapping on you, on the trump tower, on trump organization or members of your campaign was, that british intelligence was either responsible for it or involved this -- involved in it. after these claims are rejected, what is your take on that? are there other suspects, or do you think it was, it was a mistake to blame british intelligence for this? and, by the way, my second question, are there from time to time tweets that you regret in hindsight? >> very seldom. [laughter] >> very seldom -- >> very seldom. probably wouldn't be here right
now, but very seldom. we have a tremendous group of people that listen, and i can get around the media when the media doesn't tell the truth, so i like that. as far as wiretapping, i guess by, you know, this past administration at least we have something in common, perhaps. [laughter] and just to finish your question, we said nothing. all we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television. i didn't make an opinion on it. that was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on fox. and so you shouldn't be talking to me, you should be talking to fox, okay? >> thank you. >> yeah. [speaking german] >> translator: well, i believe
that the president has clearly set out his philosophy as to what trade agreements have to bring about for the american side as well. i personally don't think that germany needs to negotiate and not the european union. we've devolved confidences to the european union or, rather, the commission, and negotiates on behalf of the member states, so that's not going to prevent us -- [inaudible] indeed, this would qualify as a bilateral agreement between the e.u. and the united states if we had it. but the question is, will it be of benefit to both countries or not, and let me be very honest, very can did. a -- candid. a free trade agreement with the united states of america has not always been all that popular in germany either. there have been demonstrations against this free trade agreement in the united states and in europe and also in germany. so i am very glad to note that,
apparently, the sort of perspective on that has changed a little bit at least in germany too. thank you very much great honor. thank you. thank you. trish: all right. you've been listening to a joint press conference there between angela merkel of germany and our president, donald trump. you heard them talk a little bit about nato. president trump saying that he expects germany will commit the full amount to nato, and german chancellor angela merkel saying she expects that the u.s. will continue to back germany in its efforts there overseas. joining me now for more analysis, former cia officer buck sexton and fox news strategic analyst lieutenant colonel ralph peters. buck, this was a big issue on the campaign trail. he took offense, by the way, to the german reporter accusing him of being isolationist. he said i very much believe in
fair trade, that was one sort of little blip in that press conference which was a very interesting press conference. but, you know, when you think of the challenge he has now ahead of himself, germany and other countries right now in europe are not contributing the 2% of gdp that they agreed to. how does he force their hand? >> i think it's going to be very difficult. what you see here are two leaders who are representative of the opposite poles within western civilization right now politically speaking in terms of trump being the nationalist or somebody when's nation first, somebody who's america first, as he says, and merkel, of course, being the ultimate internationalist. a hullty culturallist internationalist who believes in the super-national institutions, and now she's starting to move away from that. she even has come out in favor of the, quote, burka ban, some of the backlash of the immigration policies we've seen with her. germany is an essential partner
in counterterrorism, in dealing with the russians, which that is going to be interesting with this administration, pushing back on crimea, ukraine, the germans are essential for afghanistan. we don't have a tremendous amount of lev ran. i don't think we're going to try to force the germans to pay more because we also don't want to begin to dissolve the nato alliance end with some of the saber-rattling coming from the russians with regard to the baltic states. so it will take time. i think you saw that. you have two people that aren't going to agree on a whole lot, but the relationship essential -- trish: he did say they have a little bit of common ground. you know, i'm telling you -- [laughter] if you didn't see this, you missed something because there were, indeed, a few little nuggets in there, and one of them was, colonel ralph peters, he said, look, we do have one thing in common, we have both been wiretapped by the obama administration. he, of course, was referring to the eavesdropping on angela merkel's telephone that did occur by the previous administration. what do you make of that?
>> well, i'd like the president to prove that obama wiretapped him. come on. this is turning into an absolute debacle for the administration. they need to move off it. i'm much more interested in the dynamics between chancellor merkel and president trump. i mean, it's clear that both of them were enjoying a trip to the dentist. trish: i'm sorry, what did you say? >> i said they were both taking a trip to the dentist today. trish: oh, okay. neither one of them enjoyed being there, i got it. >> no, i mean, for chancellor merkel, from the her perspective, trump's a loose cannon and different understand her world or europe or nato, and from trump's perspective, he's had a bad couple weeks, and and he needs a foreign policy win. hence, he was hitting so hard on germany's agreed to up their nato contribution, their defense budget to 2%. well, germany agreed to that a long time ago. and by the way, there is no rule or regulation that says a nato member must contribute 2%. it's a volunteer goal. we keep citing the united states
spends 3.6% on defense because we have global interests. now, back in the 1980s -- trish: i know where you're going with this, colonel peters, you and i have talked about this before. i know, you feel that this is very important, i got it. but, you know, i think it's a fair point to say to these other countries, come on, step up to the plate, do your, do your part. we'll contribute 3.6% or whatever it is, we'll continue doing that -- >> but we're not. trish: at least give the lousy 2% you said you were going to commit to in the first place. colonel peters, it doesn't seem like you're asking for that much, but he's going to have to twist her arm because nobody wants to pay more than they have to, i get it. >> germany has already commit today 2%, as have various -- trish: by 2024! why can't we do it by 2017? >> because germany doesn't believe in running budget deficits -- trish: well, you know, it's not very fair to us, right? we're running all kinds of -- >> trish, i frankly disagree. i absolutely disagree.
we are spending so much in defense because we're a superpower with global interests. probably about 1% or less of our total investment in defense goes toward nato right now. but any rate, to just get back to the news conference itself, i was fascinated that she felt compelled to bring up ukraine. which, of course, president trump didn't mention. and you can be sure that behind closed doors no one invoked the name, but merkel is absotely will have had -- trish: yeah, no, i hear you. you know what? it's lurking in the background of all of this, wouldn't you agree? final words, buck sexton, vladimir putin. >> oh, absolutely. germany is a critical player in trying to deal with russian territorial ambitions. i've mentioned the baltics before. if you're living in latvia right now, lithuania, you have a nervousness that is a result of what russia's been doing recently. we've been seeing nato drills up around there in preparation, also in crimea and eastern ukraine.
these are places where the obama administration was working with merkel to try and put sanctions in place to stop russia. of course, as friends of mine say, nothing brings the russian people together like suffering. didn't have the intended effect. but germany was essential in that. it gets very old this germany in the -- cold in germany in the winter -- trish: absolutely. all right. i say it's about time they a pay their lousy 2%. take out a little money, we certainly have done it. thank you, colonel peters, buck sexton, good to have you here. we're going to be right back.
howie, good to have you here. everybody says they want to government to be more responsible with funding but the moment someone tries to be, guess what, they somehow are a big-ole mean and that's what the budget is saying that it's just mean, it's heartless, what is it that the left can't seem to grasp here in -- you cannot spend your way from here to the moon? >> trish, how many times have we been through this? they're sending a dire signal to the clients, you know, these are the crown jewels. it's the same stuff over and over again. sometimes they are going to cut -- accused republicans of cutting social security, they are going cut medicare, they bring people in wheelchairs, what are you going to do about this, today is meals on wheels. now, trish, you and i, we are in
the media, we know this, corporation for public broadcasting, it's getting out of the children's programming division. hbo has bought some of the programs, netflix started 35 children programs, amazon is doing streaming. why do we need to keep funding the corporation for public broadcasting and these unions are saying, oh, oh, they are cutting our departments, they're undermining -- again, undermining our critical mission. well, as far as we can see, a lot of the federal agencies, the deep state as they're called now, their critical mission is undermining trump's agenda. trump won the election, he has every right to undermine their mission to undermine him. trish: you're right on pbs. i lived for pbs. mr. rogers, sesame street. my kids don't know what pbs is because of the market selections out there. anyway, pbs, you think about
hamilton, musical that mike pence was -- was bed a tha was in part endowed by the national endowment for the arts yet hamilton is perhaps one of the most profitable musicals out there making a $100 million a year. i argue that they don't need the extra government money. >> well, that's not going to go ahead cut out of the budget at the end of the day. i wish the president would have read his budget because a lot of the campaign promises are being ignored by that budget. let me give you one example. impact which helps educate family of the military has been cut out of the budget. i don't think the president understands that because if he did i'm sure he would want to put that back in. educates the hard men and women -- trish: meals on wheels only get 3% of the funding from the u.s. government.
can't they cut their funding by 3%. >> here in new york might be less than 3%, if you go to ppalachia and other parts of the president where they went for president trump they get more than 3%. in some places like that they get all their funding and they are going to lose that in the budget. i think if the president understood that, the president would think about making this cut. trish: howie. >> there's another -- he mentioned the phrase red hairing, the appalchia regional commission, that's been around 50 years, lyndon johnson days. what is it not -- west virginia and 12 states all the way from new rk, miissii and alabama. what has it ever done? at the timer the nest of politically connected people. they all set up nonprofits and get grants. has anything change? the problems have gotten worse in the areas. this is a waste. >> yeah, and those are the parts of the country --
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trish: the president's travel ban is being blocked by federal judges in hawaii and maryland, partly they're citing the president's rhetoric from the campaign trail as the reasons for the block. joining me right now is julian epstein, house judiciary committee and republican strategists and attorney ford. they are now using statements that he made out on the campaign trail long before he was ever president and saying, well, that proves his intent that this is really a muslim ban and that's what he's been trying to do all along, but let's keep in mind, ford, these statements that he made, they were made prior to him being president.
since being president, he has been briefed by the intelligence community regularly and he believes that we need to do this right now to secure ourselves at least temporaril so from a legal perspective d i know that you're formerly a lawyer, aren't they effectively irrelevant? >> well, absolutely they're inadmissible for a variety of reasons and even if they were admissible they would be circumstantial evidence at best. this is not a muslim ban because 88% of the muslims are exempt and number three, he has authority to do in the constitution, 1952 macarthur act. sovereignty and inherently power and the supreme court ruled this many times. trish: there you go, julian. i don't know what the courts are thinking. we have given our president this power to make this kind of decision. >> well, the courts can still
review that statutory authority that if they think improper religious test has been placed. i do agree, when it comes to national security, the courts should not be second-guessing a president and this should have never made it in the courts. it was the administration being its own worst enemy. this was incompetently handled executive order as i have ever seen. trish: the first time around, not now? >> the initial rollout, it wasn't even briefed. they talk about campaign statements, the court was very clear that it wasn't just the statements made in the campaign, the statements made by president and associates after inaugurated. trish: why are we even talking about that? >> let me finish the pointif i may. these are not the rules of evidence that you have in a criminal proceeding. that's absolutely wrong to say
that they're not admissible. excuse me, just a second. >> julian, the ninth circuit cannot levy a nation with temporary restraining order because it feels that the president's statements are actual in intent. >> can i finish the point without interruption? so i ran two different congressional committees and every time we passed the statute we always did something called we completed the legislative record because courts constantly look at the legislative intent of congress, the court can look at anything it wants to in terms of determining what -- trish: here is the problem. [inaudible] trish: hang on. >> stop yelling over me. trish: very quickly. >> you have to stop yelling over me. >> there is not a legislative record to the president of the united states and trump did not say anything himself after the fact with respect to the court -- trish: i have to leave it there, guys, i am out of time. i agree with you ford.
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